Dear Desihen and all
I AM ALSO placed in mANUFACTURING FIRM .same i have been alloted RECRUITMENT only .Over here no proper HR DEPT is established ,My top mgt has shown trust in me and wants to create HR dept ove here .ME TOO SAILING IN SAME BOAT AS YOU DO
SO all EXP GUYS & GALS ...PLZ SUGGEST ME SOME IDEAS HOWS CAN I START HR DEPT FROM SCRATCH ....MAJ0R PROBLEM OVER HERE IS THAT RECRUITMENT IS NOT PROPOERLY CHALLENISED
WAITING REPLY FROM ALL
Tapasya
From India, Vadodara
2I AM ALSO placed in mANUFACTURING FIRM .same i have been alloted RECRUITMENT only .Over here no proper HR DEPT is established ,My top mgt has shown trust in me and wants to create HR dept ove here .ME TOO SAILING IN SAME BOAT AS YOU DO
SO all EXP GUYS & GALS ...PLZ SUGGEST ME SOME IDEAS HOWS CAN I START HR DEPT FROM SCRATCH ....MAJ0R PROBLEM OVER HERE IS THAT RECRUITMENT IS NOT PROPOERLY CHALLENISED
WAITING REPLY FROM ALL
Tapasya
From India, Vadodara
If you are the creative type, this is the best opportunity you can ever get. When you say there is no existing HR department, you have a clear playing field and can implement the best HR practices you ever learnt or practiced! Just make sure that the Management is open minded, as everything you do will be new to them.....and there is so much to do in this field!
Wish you all the best!!!
From India, Pune
Wish you all the best!!!
From India, Pune
dear all
I am in a similar position like "desihan" with a little difference.
I was a fresher and just completed my PGDM in hr AND GOT RECRUITED in a share and stock broking firm in the HR department.
As it was recession at that time I agree I panicked and just started sitting for all interviews (in a way.. its good because the situation is worse now, students in my college haven't got recruited as yet") and got into this company
fortunately there is only one person in this department for HR, and now he wants be to be this person who will reform the company and bring to its optimum level. I am putting all my energy into it. I have already changed the appraisal form,, changed the way they take appraisals, partly taken over the compensation, going to start (after HALF YEARLY APPRASAILS) trainings etc all geared up
now ill state the problem "when i'm with my other FRIENDS they laugh about the fact that a) there is a hr dept in a stock broking firm
b) no point in doing so much and move out
c) no point in sticking to this company
now my dilemma is a) is there really no point
b) am I being stupid doing all this as the business is totally diff unlike any sector
c) should I move out ASAP?
d) can I see future
-the co. is no really well recognised (it has big name in the broking biz, does crores of business everyday, but unknown to the other biz sectors
-its co with just 100 employees
-my head is over his retirement age and I've taken over all his duties so. I've practically got the entire hr dept on my shoulders
-the owner of the company has given me all rights and authority to ensure my policies get implemented
I'm just 4 months into the job BUT I HAVE LEARNT A LOT AND DONE A LOT!!
I have a generalist profile
I’m just scared that I’m ruining my career ahead.. am I?
please I need advice, no one in my friends or family have an hr job or experience
help
Regards
From India, Mumbai
I am in a similar position like "desihan" with a little difference.
I was a fresher and just completed my PGDM in hr AND GOT RECRUITED in a share and stock broking firm in the HR department.
As it was recession at that time I agree I panicked and just started sitting for all interviews (in a way.. its good because the situation is worse now, students in my college haven't got recruited as yet") and got into this company
fortunately there is only one person in this department for HR, and now he wants be to be this person who will reform the company and bring to its optimum level. I am putting all my energy into it. I have already changed the appraisal form,, changed the way they take appraisals, partly taken over the compensation, going to start (after HALF YEARLY APPRASAILS) trainings etc all geared up
now ill state the problem "when i'm with my other FRIENDS they laugh about the fact that a) there is a hr dept in a stock broking firm
b) no point in doing so much and move out
c) no point in sticking to this company
now my dilemma is a) is there really no point
b) am I being stupid doing all this as the business is totally diff unlike any sector
c) should I move out ASAP?
d) can I see future
-the co. is no really well recognised (it has big name in the broking biz, does crores of business everyday, but unknown to the other biz sectors
-its co with just 100 employees
-my head is over his retirement age and I've taken over all his duties so. I've practically got the entire hr dept on my shoulders
-the owner of the company has given me all rights and authority to ensure my policies get implemented
I'm just 4 months into the job BUT I HAVE LEARNT A LOT AND DONE A LOT!!
I have a generalist profile
I’m just scared that I’m ruining my career ahead.. am I?
please I need advice, no one in my friends or family have an hr job or experience
help
Regards
From India, Mumbai
Hi
I think its a very good opportunity for you but before saying yes u should first find out the value of this firm in the market as well as whether the management will help you in learning all the activities related to this profile.
If the answer is yes then u shld go for this opportunity because it will add an advantage to your career in the near future as their are very few HR representatives who have the knowledge of both the fields i.e Recruitment n HR generlist profile.
From India, New Delhi
I think its a very good opportunity for you but before saying yes u should first find out the value of this firm in the market as well as whether the management will help you in learning all the activities related to this profile.
If the answer is yes then u shld go for this opportunity because it will add an advantage to your career in the near future as their are very few HR representatives who have the knowledge of both the fields i.e Recruitment n HR generlist profile.
From India, New Delhi
Hey you are not ruining your career!
Infact you are doing a great job :-) Appreciate you!
When your friends tell you that you are doing something funny - tell hem you are the kind fo person who likes trying out unique things with a creative mind and makea success out of it. :-) Be confident. Take it from me - after a few days one of your friends will come to you and ask if there is a possibility of joining your team.
Its confidence that matters. You have it in you - you know you are doing a good job. You are satisified. You know your head retired and was not fired :-) You have a lot to do here - take a look at how others are doing in such kind of a company - and see what else you can be creative about such that - people would just want to work there :-)
Good Job!
From India, Madras
Infact you are doing a great job :-) Appreciate you!
When your friends tell you that you are doing something funny - tell hem you are the kind fo person who likes trying out unique things with a creative mind and makea success out of it. :-) Be confident. Take it from me - after a few days one of your friends will come to you and ask if there is a possibility of joining your team.
Its confidence that matters. You have it in you - you know you are doing a good job. You are satisified. You know your head retired and was not fired :-) You have a lot to do here - take a look at how others are doing in such kind of a company - and see what else you can be creative about such that - people would just want to work there :-)
Good Job!
From India, Madras
Ash, each word of yours is inspiring and motivating. why dont you write a book I would be the first buyer.
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Hi Gokhale,
I am not an experienced person but looking at your situation I can comment that You are certainly in a better position than many MBA's who have got jobs into consultancies or are still jobless.
You are learning so much out there. You have done so much. Once you gain experience out there I am sure You will get a good job opportunities in the HR generalist field. As you said that Owner of your company has given you every rights to implement your innovative ideas so that means he is co opereative. You are doing great on your job.
Please ignore negativity and stay optimistic.
All the Best
From India, Mumbai
I am not an experienced person but looking at your situation I can comment that You are certainly in a better position than many MBA's who have got jobs into consultancies or are still jobless.
You are learning so much out there. You have done so much. Once you gain experience out there I am sure You will get a good job opportunities in the HR generalist field. As you said that Owner of your company has given you every rights to implement your innovative ideas so that means he is co opereative. You are doing great on your job.
Please ignore negativity and stay optimistic.
All the Best
From India, Mumbai
Dear friend
Even if you dont have exerience i think if you have Learning attitude
Ability to cope up with situation .good interpersonel skills
and good understanding of HUman resource,good understanding of
Company .
Then it is easy to set up hr Dept.
Take one day at a time and you can see yourself as an seasoned HR
And a proper HR dept, in your company.
Take a chance as this will strenthen your position in Hr Market.
I have took a job to set hr dept. and have good support of Managment
And good understanding and intrest in hr.
After 11 months i can say that yes things can work.
after Series of frustation ,but if you are willing and have attitude there will
always a solution that will teach you great lesson and take you ahead.
Regards
Pratap
9689901446
From India, Pune
Even if you dont have exerience i think if you have Learning attitude
Ability to cope up with situation .good interpersonel skills
and good understanding of HUman resource,good understanding of
Company .
Then it is easy to set up hr Dept.
Take one day at a time and you can see yourself as an seasoned HR
And a proper HR dept, in your company.
Take a chance as this will strenthen your position in Hr Market.
I have took a job to set hr dept. and have good support of Managment
And good understanding and intrest in hr.
After 11 months i can say that yes things can work.
after Series of frustation ,but if you are willing and have attitude there will
always a solution that will teach you great lesson and take you ahead.
Regards
Pratap
9689901446
From India, Pune
u can go ahead .n take the offer .its always better than only recruitment. try to negotiate with pachage i f possible.
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Hello Desihan,
Ur situation is similar to mine 2mnths back i too was working with a Consultancy and i too got a similar offer from a small growing manufacturing Co. for establishing HR in their another unit based at Rudrapur which required me to relocate also with not a good hike from my current salary but there were few points on which i'd pondered before switching over-
1.-In a consultancy u'll never get to learn the HR generalistic profile u'll only be limited to the recruitment process.
2.-My consultancy does not have any organogram so after 4yrs also i would remain as a consultant but i would never be an Asstt. Mngr Consultant or Manager Consultant..etc.
3.-In a consultancy U will never be able to understand the human behavior which is the main essence of HR.In a manufacturing industry u have a wide scope of interacting from workers to executives and also with your GM's.
4.-It would be a challenging job and by implementing things by urself helps u to learn better and get to know many things that means the foundation would be stronger.
and the icing on the cake is.......
5.-Being the only person in the HR the ball will be in my court the more i give my best shots the more i will score i.e. if i perform well the credit goes to me but if i am under some senior authority if i perform well then the credit goes to the HR team .
So thinking over these points i left my consultancy currently i am on a training programme(also in my probabtion period) in the same manufacturing Co. which is in my hometown for 3mnths after that i will be relocating to Rudrapur.2mnths have been passed but believe me here i am getting so much to learn from salary computation to administration and everyday i am growing in HR.It feels great even in typing an offer letter for a new joinee.On the whole i am happy that i made a right decision i hope my views would help you to clear your doubts....All the best!!
Regards
Priyanka
From India, New Delhi
Ur situation is similar to mine 2mnths back i too was working with a Consultancy and i too got a similar offer from a small growing manufacturing Co. for establishing HR in their another unit based at Rudrapur which required me to relocate also with not a good hike from my current salary but there were few points on which i'd pondered before switching over-
1.-In a consultancy u'll never get to learn the HR generalistic profile u'll only be limited to the recruitment process.
2.-My consultancy does not have any organogram so after 4yrs also i would remain as a consultant but i would never be an Asstt. Mngr Consultant or Manager Consultant..etc.
3.-In a consultancy U will never be able to understand the human behavior which is the main essence of HR.In a manufacturing industry u have a wide scope of interacting from workers to executives and also with your GM's.
4.-It would be a challenging job and by implementing things by urself helps u to learn better and get to know many things that means the foundation would be stronger.
and the icing on the cake is.......
5.-Being the only person in the HR the ball will be in my court the more i give my best shots the more i will score i.e. if i perform well the credit goes to me but if i am under some senior authority if i perform well then the credit goes to the HR team .
So thinking over these points i left my consultancy currently i am on a training programme(also in my probabtion period) in the same manufacturing Co. which is in my hometown for 3mnths after that i will be relocating to Rudrapur.2mnths have been passed but believe me here i am getting so much to learn from salary computation to administration and everyday i am growing in HR.It feels great even in typing an offer letter for a new joinee.On the whole i am happy that i made a right decision i hope my views would help you to clear your doubts....All the best!!
Regards
Priyanka
From India, New Delhi
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