kanchan12
Dear All,
I am summer intern at a renowned Bank and have been given the responsibility to design and document their entire training process. If any one has done this before can they plase share the document to give me a fair idea of how and what needs to be included. Also I would need further suggestions and insights for designing such a document.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you.

From India, Pune
Gaurav Sareen
95

Dear Kanchan,
Are you sure that as a summer intern you have been made responsible to 'design & document their entire training process'?
Either something's not right in what you've written, or, if it is, then my suggestion to you is to get out of that bank!
Because, if a 'renowned' bank is asking a summer intern to 'design & document' their 'entire training process', then it is immediate cause for real concern. The task you refer to is a highly specialised and very professional undertaking which will take a team of 2 - 3 veteran training designers a good 8 - 10 weeks to complete. And, its also a very expensive process. Are you sure your task is not just limited to 'documenting' their training process. And, perhaps in your enthusiasm you've also included 'design' in your post?
So, in case you've mistakenly written what you have, perhaps you should amend that. Then, I am sure you will start getting people (including me) helping you with what you need.

From India, Gurgaon
Avani Bhatnagar
13

Hi Gaurav,

With reference to Kanchan's post, I would like to draw your attention to the fact that she is required to "design and document their entire training process." Perhaps, this is a 'test' of her knowledge ,what soever she has acquired at her B School. This does not necessarily imply that they would execute her design. It is a practise for her. Infact, the bank may use her "design" to further the process an of course, further it with the help of veterans who are either Instructional Designing experts or Training experts(from the Training and Development Industry). I am sure she has some senior to guide her as well as evalaute her work.
This exercise is more of 'Evaluation' of the learnings of a fresher.

At my organisation, I too have recruited 2 interns with Hr specializations and one of them is engaged in Drafting the entire Training process, its layout, designing a training module and documenting the entire Training process, under supervision .

Thanks and Regards,
Avani Bhatnagar.
Manager - Training
ANR Software Pvt Ltd.

From India, Delhi
Gaurav Sareen
95

Hey Avani,
Thank you for your post.
Viewing Kanchan's question through 'your lens' turns my response entirely on its head.
When I read your interns' task, you used the words 'engaged' and 'supervised' which are appropriate for their skill level & the task at hand. I think I took Kanchan's use of the phrase 'responsibility to design and document' literally, and, hence my reply. And, since the task is truly mammoth (if intended to be done the way it should, and not how most organisations here do ... chalta hai type), I could'nt comprehend a summer intern being burdened with it.
I was hoping it wouldn't happen to me, but it appears that I am beginning to show my age.
But, Avani, thank you for showing me another context and educating me. I truly appreciate your time.
Warm regards,
Gaurav

From India, Gurgaon
Avani Bhatnagar
13

Hi Gaurav,

I am glad that you could clearly see Kanchan's sense of saying 'responsibility to design and document'. She is basically looking at help from experienced people like yourself to be able to design a document that would , perhaps, have the entire Training Process.
This 'responsibility' is indeed specialized, however, she wants a ready-reckoner, which she could go through and probably modify it according to the requirements of her bank.
She would definitely be under supervision and I am sure she has a mentor to guide her."Design" would require the expertise of an Instructional Designer combined with the skills of a Trainer.
She needs to clearly 'pass' this 'test', as I called it in my earlier post in order to bag a good in-house job or internal posting.

Kanchan would execute it according to her understanding, keeping in mind, that she may have little or no knowledge about this. As an intern, she must have been told that it is HER RESPONSIBILTY to design and document the ENTIRE training process so that she doesn't take it lightly.She may or may not do a routine run-of the-mill.

I would really like to bring you attention to the fact that as Managers or SEnior managers , we are crucially responsible for understanding our employees. We need to carefully examine and understand their verbiage. Otherwise, as HR Managers, engaged in the recruitment process, we may tend to miss out on really good resources who could have brought real value to the organisation through their contribution.

That is why , I ensure, that my interviewee is comfortable and rephrases his answers so that the correct meaning is portrayed. Luckily , I get employees who may be people of a few words, however, they do a great job, just like Kanchan.

Thanks and Regards,

From India, Delhi
kanchan12
Dear All,

Thank you for bringing to my notice the mistake that I made while posting the query. The bank has a Training process very well in place and I'm suppose to only document the entire process.

The challenge I face here is that most of the team members are engaged in their day to day activities and are unable to spare time to tell me about their responsibilities so that I can document it all. Plus I am also a little unsure of how the flow of such a document should be.

My other friends working with banks can only provide a few inputs but to see a document like that is rather difficult as banks are very protective of all their data.

Ive first begun with the Training needs assessment but that is barely a paragraph because only the Training heads along with the higher up make these decisions at he beginning of the year.

Then comes the Training- Classroom and e-learning

Then Description of the Programs they have in brief which include the Name, the target audience, the duration and in short what is covered under it.
Then comes the Evaluation, Attendance monitoring,billing an annexure of the evaluation forms, attendance sheets, vendors, list of locations where training is conducted, team structure and a glossary of words.

So far this is what I have amassed only in pointers but to fill the contents is consuming time.

If I need to include or exclude more please feel free to suggest. Also please tell me if im on the right track

Thank you all

Kind Regards,
Kanchan

From India, Pune
Gaurav Sareen
95

Dear Kanchan,

Good to hear from you again. Was starting to become a conversation between Avani and myself. So, welcome back!

I can feel your pain. Your observations, challenges, conundrums etc... take me back about 20 years when I was an intern. I remember that all of us interns were rank outsiders in the organisation. To protect the 'not so innocent' I can't name the organisation, but back then, only the really large ones had an intern policy. And, even today, they are market leaders.

The reality was that in spite of some very nice people in the Training and HR department (that's right - even back then both departments were separate at this place. And, that truly was a rarity back then. Because until very recently in India, training was assumed to be a role of HR), people on the 'shop floor' never made us welcome. And, that hurt us. But, its only after a few more years (as I worked and progressed up the ladder) that I realised why those people had been uncooperative, distant, and generally aloof from us.

The answer is that they knew we weren't there for the long haul. They knew we would be out the door in a couple of months time. So, whilst the assignments given to us by the Training Dept meant the life to us, they were 'everyday humbug' to the other staff. And, humbug they didn't really want to invest their time or efforts with. Please don't get me wrong. Even though it felt miserable then, we grew up really fast and had to learn a lot of things a few years ahead of time.

Why do I tell you all of this? To drive home the point that your seniors in the bank who are otherwise busy with their daily activities, actually do want to talk to you. Belive me. They want to tell you everything you need to know. In fact, they even want to help you complete your task. But, they are reluctant. They've seen other interns come and go without much value added to them during their presence. If anything, interns are perceived to be a hindrance. Because they need to be shepharded, chaperoned etc etc... As a senior manager I know that this is all hog wash and horribly misplaced perceptions. Yet, they are prevalent all the same. So, how do you achieve what you need to get done?

Simple! Establish 1-on-1 relationships with them. By that I mean get to know each person individually. Not just Madhu from tellers, Ashok from back room etc... I mean even if you get a couple of minutes with them, be genuinely interested in them. And, believe me, if you can do this for a couple of days, you'll crack at least a couple of them. And, the magic is that that is all you need. Because those couple will then become your goodwill ambassadors with the remaining staff. And, a lesson for your here - no matter how good you are, you will NEVER get everybody to like you, or like what you do, or like what you stand for. So, just smile at those who don't take to you, wish them the time of day politely and continue along your merry way.

Kanchan, I promise you that you will get the results you are after. And, most importantly, like Avani mentioned in both her posts, this assignment is your 'test'. Having understood where Avani is coming from, I can assure you that the test involves more than just whether or not you completed the task on hand. Because in all probabilities, they don't even need the document you've been asked to prepare. Instead, what they're evaluating is how you go about getting it done. Because every senior manager would rather have smart people who can go about getting things done by creating goodwill, as opposed to someone who may do a fabulous job but at a huge cost. So, the learning you'll get from this exercise is going to be invaluable for your later life. And, yes, you'll also learn how to document the training process.

Its been a lengthy reply. If you like what I have written and are keen to give it a shot for a week or so, let me know here, and then we'll venture into the technicalities of how you can prepare your assignment document.

Take care & Have Fun!

From India, Gurgaon
kanchan12
Dear Gaurav,

I joined this organization on 1st of June and to tell you the truth your reply is exactly what is happening so far. My seniors are supportive but don't have much time to devote to the document. When they do have spare time, they make sure to give me all the information I need. Its the super seniors I'm worried about.He says he'll come to my desk and its been a week that it hasn't happened. I've approached him thrice but the third time the response was a curt one, thus I backed down.

My supervisor says I need to be after him but I think other wise. Infact, it was my supervisor who said this will be a challenge you will face and confided in me that she liked the way I'm approaching people for information and said that is the main reason she hired me as an inter coz she knew I had the skill of handling such a situation.

So far the document is coming along fine. I have managed to amass information as and when they can provide it. As of now no skirmishes have happened with any of the colleagues (Touch wood!!)and things are flowing smoothly.

You are also right about this project being a test for me. My supervisor did say that while making this document what more can I bring to this organization and what value addition can I bring about while I document their processes. This does make me nervous as I might just continue documenting their processes but making a change may not happen as time may be a constraint plus timely inputs are not being received. I am to finish this project by 29th July, but my supervisor suggested she wants it complete by mid July so that a presentation can be prepared to show to the above mentioned super senior. I'm hoping all this materializes in due course of time and I don't fall short of expectations.

I'm also sorry for the delay in my replies as you would know that having the tag of an outsider I have no access to the internet or any of the other facilities in the organization. I come home post 8:30 p.m. and being married I have other chores to handle.

Thank you and Avani and all other respondents to my query for all the support and I look forward to receive further insights for the project.

Thanks & Regards,
Kanchan

From India, Pune
Gaurav Sareen
95

Dear Kanchan,

You write really well. Especially for an Indian. Because, the truth is that most of us write horribly (even though we will never admit it). I am truly impressed by the composition, clarity of thought, use of grammar, paragraph construction and a 99.95% lack of spelling errors. Why do I highlight this even though it has literally nothing to do with the topic of your thread? Because, if you write so well, I would like to believe that you are organised and relatively 'clutter free' in your life in general. It may sound absurd, but, there is tonnes of research that links people's writing to their general outlook to life! So, congratulations! You're more than 50% of way to your goal - of documenting the training process! Congratulations once again! (This is where you pat yourself on the back, or, ask a friend or your husband to do it for you - really! I mean it!)

Kanchan, I've read your reply. Very informative. My diagnosis is that there are a lot of dynamics at play at your workplace - as one should expect at any place where 2 or more people congregate for a lengthy period of time each day for most days of the week.

Reading your last post, I don't think you're too challenged to prepare your assignment document. Again, refer to my opening paragraph. I believe that your challenge will be the manner in which you navigate through the labyrinth of 'office politics' and other similar and wonderful events at the bank, and reach your destination with a value add (as your supervisor has asked you to enunciate).

There are a number of do's and dont's that myself or any senior person can advise you. However, you won't register a lot. Not because you are silly or anything similar. Rather, because our advise will be more of a 'risk mitigation strategy'. However, and unfortunately, the bulk of risks we'll talk about will not seem real to you. Why? Simple. Because they haven't happened yet. So, you can't relate to them. Thus, instead of offering all the do's and dont's, my suggestion is as follows:

1. You need to go through your 'life experiences' as an intern and grow at your own pace and in your own style. And, once you've done this for a few months, those around you will start to see a different you.

2. The single worst thing you can do is to throw in the towel. I know that reading this point you're saying that you'll never do it. And, if you're truly saying it, then I am really glad. However, this point is not for the Kanchan reading this reply when the times are good. Its for the Kanchan who will one day return home dejected and upset because her boss was rude to her etc...

3. You will make mistakes. You have to. That's all there is to it. And, when you do make those mistakes, remember that you're neither the first nor the last to make that mistake/s. However, what you want to do in that circumstance, is to do all that you have to and understand what really went wrong and how it should have been. Then, you have to commit to yourself that from that point on, that mistake will not happen again. Also, remember that when we make mistakes as interns, it is a thousand times worse than when we make those same mistakes as employees. Why? Because as interns we have energy, passion, enthusiasm, a sense of infallibility, a deep desire to impress, a huge need to be 'accepted' and made to feel 'wanted' etc... And, when we make mistakes, we become our own worst enemy. Why? Because we believe that we've let people down. So, do what I've suggested earlier in this point. Learn and move on! Simple!

4. This is the most important point - have fun each day. Make each day your best learning experience yet! Remember, as an intern there is only one entity for whom you're making this huge investment - YOU! So, make sure that you look after that precious investment.

Now, in relation to your assignment, I am making you an offer.

Send me the document you've already prepared. Then, continue preparing it as you're doing it each day. And, when you're a couple of weeks out from submitting it, send me your last draft. Here is what I will do. In the first document you send me, I will make sure that you're on the right track and you're covering some critical aspects of any training process. I will send this document once I am done reviewing it. In relation to your final document, I will do the same but also offer you some tips and advice on how to make your document 'saleable'. Remember, in your entire work life, any document you prepare has to be 2 things - factual (or informational) and saleable. But, what I will not do, is write it for you. Not because I can't, but rather because it will be grossly unfair to both - you and your organisation.

So, another lengthy reply later, you have fun and if you can identify with any of what I've written here, let me know and we'll take it further. Also, in case you don't want to continue using this forum to communicate with me, please feel free to email me at

And, like always - Take Care & Have Fun!

From India, Gurgaon
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