Hi, I would like to address — - why females are more dominant in recruitments than man...
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Let me quote the reasons without pulling punches, of course. I know my statements always ruffle a few feathers, but then I am helpless. The reasons are as below:
a) Lack of self-awareness. This is because of a lack of personality development.
b) Disinclination to take challenges. There are a lot of jobs available in operations, supply chain, marketing, advertising, etc. But it may not be a table and chair job. Recruiters prefer to slog on a chair rather than on the shop floor or in the field.
c) Many of them lack analytical skills. This is because of a poor command over Maths and Stats. Many other disciplines demand a command over these two subjects.
d) Lack of love for money. It is an inner urge to earn more money that drives one's ambition. I have seen few recruiters be quite complacent.
e) Inability to plan one's career. Unfortunately, sometimes MBAs end up as recruiters. This is because of a lack of self-esteem.
f) Recruiters don't have to rub shoulders with average people. Sometimes senior professionals in other disciplines have to deal with mediocre people. Recruiters, in contrast, have their own haven in which they find birds of a feather.
Nevertheless, a recruiter's job is a plain grind. It has its own challenges. Sometimes candidates give the least regard to recruiters. They do not turn up for interviews. Selected candidates do not turn up for the job. Plus, there is pressure for closure for 'x' number of positions.
However, when one gets stuck in this drudgery, it is very difficult to come out. The job of a company recruiter is better than an agency recruiter. The former has some chance to jump to some other function vertically. The latter has none.
The other factors for women are marriage and starting a family. But then these are universal, and recruiters alone cannot be singled out.
Since you asked this question, I have given my observations. However, my boldness should not be construed as boorishness.
Regards, DVD
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a) Lack of self-awareness. This is because of a lack of personality development.
b) Disinclination to take challenges. There are a lot of jobs available in operations, supply chain, marketing, advertising, etc. But it may not be a table and chair job. Recruiters prefer to slog on a chair rather than on the shop floor or in the field.
c) Many of them lack analytical skills. This is because of a poor command over Maths and Stats. Many other disciplines demand a command over these two subjects.
d) Lack of love for money. It is an inner urge to earn more money that drives one's ambition. I have seen few recruiters be quite complacent.
e) Inability to plan one's career. Unfortunately, sometimes MBAs end up as recruiters. This is because of a lack of self-esteem.
f) Recruiters don't have to rub shoulders with average people. Sometimes senior professionals in other disciplines have to deal with mediocre people. Recruiters, in contrast, have their own haven in which they find birds of a feather.
Nevertheless, a recruiter's job is a plain grind. It has its own challenges. Sometimes candidates give the least regard to recruiters. They do not turn up for interviews. Selected candidates do not turn up for the job. Plus, there is pressure for closure for 'x' number of positions.
However, when one gets stuck in this drudgery, it is very difficult to come out. The job of a company recruiter is better than an agency recruiter. The former has some chance to jump to some other function vertically. The latter has none.
The other factors for women are marriage and starting a family. But then these are universal, and recruiters alone cannot be singled out.
Since you asked this question, I have given my observations. However, my boldness should not be construed as boorishness.
Regards, DVD
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You have a wrong perception about recruiters. You may have dealt with recruiters who don't have the knowledge and spark to grow. Even in every function, there are a few candidates who lack knowledge, analytical skills, maths, and statistics. Many people don't know anything about it, but they have grown to positions like MDs and EDs. Whatever you have said is because of your thoughts and understanding. I would say a good recruiter works simultaneously with an HR head to fill the gap of talent in the organization.
A recruiter works more seriously on his assignments than any other functional candidate. A recruiter can earn more than 50K every month as an incentive, but other functional candidates cannot. A general recruiter with 2-3 years of experience earns more than a similarly experienced HR or training candidate. If you need, I can send you their CVs. I have given my observations. However, my boldness should not be construed as boorishness.
Why Women Are More Dominant
Because women have a soft corner and are more attractive, most people give them more attention and they can easily build relationships with anyone. Otherwise, a man can also perform as well as a woman candidate. That's it.
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CMS
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A recruiter works more seriously on his assignments than any other functional candidate. A recruiter can earn more than 50K every month as an incentive, but other functional candidates cannot. A general recruiter with 2-3 years of experience earns more than a similarly experienced HR or training candidate. If you need, I can send you their CVs. I have given my observations. However, my boldness should not be construed as boorishness.
Why Women Are More Dominant
Because women have a soft corner and are more attractive, most people give them more attention and they can easily build relationships with anyone. Otherwise, a man can also perform as well as a woman candidate. That's it.
Thanks,
CMS
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So, Mr. Dinesh wants to say that women do not have analytical skills and they do not want to take challenging jobs...? Please correct me if I've understood this the wrong way. This is what I understood from this post.
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Bharghavi
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Bharghavi
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You have not understood correctly. I have written about the recruiter tribe only and not womenfolk as a whole. In fact, in my post, I have not singled out women, but comments are applicable to either gender.
Role Models and Inspiration
With role models like Chanda Kochhar, Indra Nooyi, and Kiran Mazumdar-Shaw, who would say that women have less analytical power? But then why do recruiters not take inspiration from them?
Observations on Recruiter Training
My observations are based on the training activities. I have handled training for recruiters. At times, I found MBAs to be resume-screeners and not even proper recruiters. For many of them, being a recruiter is a stop-gap arrangement until they move on to other assignments. But for a few, this may not happen to all.
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This is about a few becoming ED or MD. It is not a question of who becomes what. There could be exceptions as well. I have seen a case where a one-time courier runs a 60 Crore company and a one-time pharma delivery boy runs a 300 Crore or so company. However, with their analytical skills, they could have made it to 600 Crore and 3,000 Crore. As far as the latter example is concerned, in my pre-training activity, much to my horror, I discovered that the pharma distribution company was losing Rs 5,000/- per day because of wrong deliveries!
I request you to go through the comments, ponder over it, and then react rather than giving a knee-jerk reaction!
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DVD
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Role Models and Inspiration
With role models like Chanda Kochhar, Indra Nooyi, and Kiran Mazumdar-Shaw, who would say that women have less analytical power? But then why do recruiters not take inspiration from them?
Observations on Recruiter Training
My observations are based on the training activities. I have handled training for recruiters. At times, I found MBAs to be resume-screeners and not even proper recruiters. For many of them, being a recruiter is a stop-gap arrangement until they move on to other assignments. But for a few, this may not happen to all.
Caliber Management Services
This is about a few becoming ED or MD. It is not a question of who becomes what. There could be exceptions as well. I have seen a case where a one-time courier runs a 60 Crore company and a one-time pharma delivery boy runs a 300 Crore or so company. However, with their analytical skills, they could have made it to 600 Crore and 3,000 Crore. As far as the latter example is concerned, in my pre-training activity, much to my horror, I discovered that the pharma distribution company was losing Rs 5,000/- per day because of wrong deliveries!
I request you to go through the comments, ponder over it, and then react rather than giving a knee-jerk reaction!
Regards,
DVD
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Dear Satish Mishra, while addressing the issue, members would also like to know your point of view, observation, or experience. I suggest you provide some input on how you came to such a conclusion.
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Reasons for Female Dominance in Recruitment
Recruitment is a female-dominated industry, and there are several probable reasons for this trend:
• A pleasing voice that captures attention.
• Possessing good communication skills.
• Being more inclined towards roles that involve seating arrangements.
• Often finding their job search concluding at a recruitment agency's doorstep.
There could be numerous other factors contributing to this phenomenon.
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Recruitment is a female-dominated industry, and there are several probable reasons for this trend:
• A pleasing voice that captures attention.
• Possessing good communication skills.
• Being more inclined towards roles that involve seating arrangements.
• Often finding their job search concluding at a recruitment agency's doorstep.
There could be numerous other factors contributing to this phenomenon.
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Your posting is now clear. However, when you read your first post, immediate thoughts would be this way. Try reading your post again. You've been very cautious not to use any gender, which should be really appreciated. But when the thread heading is speaking about females, it's obvious with no second thought that it would apply to females. Anyways, thanks for the clarity given by you.
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Bharghavi
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Bharghavi
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Based on my limited experience in recruitment, I have observed that individuals are generally more easily persuaded by females than males. This phenomenon has been proven. Recruitment is primarily focused on attracting candidates and facilitating their joining process.
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Recruitment serves as the initial stage in HR for any MBA professional. It is essential to have a fundamental understanding of recruitment practices. Interestingly, approximately 90% of the recruitment industry is female-dominated. However, when considering job satisfaction levels, it appears to be less than 30% (based on my assumption).
Thank you.
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Recruitment serves as the initial stage in HR for any MBA professional. It is essential to have a fundamental understanding of recruitment practices. Interestingly, approximately 90% of the recruitment industry is female-dominated. However, when considering job satisfaction levels, it appears to be less than 30% (based on my assumption).
Thank you.
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How could you know that women are dominant? Could you provide instances or data so that I can analyze and give proper feedback to your queries? However, beauty, voice, and the opposite sex may be considered dominant factors. You can change your perspective, and your thoughts will change, and you might say, "Why are males more dominant in recruitments than females?"
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I believe everyone has their perception about various topics, but it should be fair and justified by logic. When discussing recruitment, we require a person who possesses patience, interpersonal skills, knowledge, and decision-making abilities. Gender should not be a determining factor in whether a woman or man can excel as a recruiter. It is a matter of quality, emotional intelligence (EQ), and intelligence quotient (IQ). If an individual meets these criteria, they are likely to be an effective and influential recruiter.
Please refrain from associating any position with gender or sex. Additionally, from my understanding, the role of a recruiter is highly esteemed as they interact with talents spanning from entry-level to executive positions, encompassing both technical and non-technical domains. If someone holds a negative perception of this role, it may be due to their personal experiences.
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Vilom Mane
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Please refrain from associating any position with gender or sex. Additionally, from my understanding, the role of a recruiter is highly esteemed as they interact with talents spanning from entry-level to executive positions, encompassing both technical and non-technical domains. If someone holds a negative perception of this role, it may be due to their personal experiences.
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Vilom Mane
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Thank you for your input. It's a really nice question. In my view, for every result, there is a root cause. If we want to resolve issues, we have to think from the ground up.
Statistical Observations on Career Choices
1. By statistical observation, most management students (males) are opting for finance and marketing. Marketing is chosen for immediate placement, higher growth, and a better package. Regarding finance, since most management students come from a commerce background, they opt for finance to become more efficient. In the case of females, most are choosing HR due to stability, resulting in a higher number of female students.
2. Females are often more attractive and can draw the attention of client companies and job applicants with their pleasing manner and convincing power. It's important to note that no work should be restricted to any gender, as everyone is capable of doing any job. If my words have offended any gender, please accept my apologies.
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Statistical Observations on Career Choices
1. By statistical observation, most management students (males) are opting for finance and marketing. Marketing is chosen for immediate placement, higher growth, and a better package. Regarding finance, since most management students come from a commerce background, they opt for finance to become more efficient. In the case of females, most are choosing HR due to stability, resulting in a higher number of female students.
2. Females are often more attractive and can draw the attention of client companies and job applicants with their pleasing manner and convincing power. It's important to note that no work should be restricted to any gender, as everyone is capable of doing any job. If my words have offended any gender, please accept my apologies.
Thanks and Regards,
Madhavi
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I also agree with this statement by TS. Every HR professional interprets personnel matters based on their perspective and experience. Therefore, it is beneficial for everyone to participate in such discussions as the diverse views from different HRs will undoubtedly help others improve themselves and gain a better understanding of various perspectives.
I believe Mr. Satish is trying to convey something about the nature of the job and its varied requirements. Qualities like communication skills can be advantageous for women in recruitment roles.
Thank you.
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R K
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I believe Mr. Satish is trying to convey something about the nature of the job and its varied requirements. Qualities like communication skills can be advantageous for women in recruitment roles.
Thank you.
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R K
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vivek_hr - appreciate your reply which is to the point of query - professional, positive and analytical. It is another matter that also appreciate the contents of your reply, being a female myself!
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No one can survive in the industry, whether it be a woman or a man, unless they have the skill to develop themselves and, at the same time, contribute to the business of the company. Gender doesn't dominate the industry; what dominates is skill. If you have skill, you will progress; otherwise, you need to wait, increase your existing skill level, and then grow to dominate the industry or company. This is what happens not only in the recruitment industry but also in other industries.
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Dear Mr. DVD,
Your analysis is way off the mark, especially for a trainer. Your analysis is about mediocre recruiters or recruiters who failed at their jobs and not that of a top biller. Moreover, I could excuse you if you don't know much about the recruitment industry given you are from the training industry.
Lack of Self-Awareness
a) Lack of self-awareness. This is because of a lack of personality development. In order to be "successful" in any profession, a good personality cannot be discounted ever. My assumption is right; you have only seen unsuccessful recruiters until now.
Disinclination to Take Challenges
b) Disinclination to take challenges. There are a lot of jobs available in operations, supply chain, marketing, advertising, etc. But it may not be a table and chair job. Recruiters prefer to slog on a chair rather than on the shop floor or field. I am convinced you would not know about head-hunters and the entire spectrum of the recruitment industry. You have never heard about Addeco. You wouldn't know until now from me that they are grossing over €20 billion in revenues. Table and Chair Job - You are getting hilarious now.
Lack of Analytical Skills
c) Many of them lack analytical skills. This is because of a poor command over Maths and Stats. Many other disciplines demand command over these two subjects. Seriously, your conclusion about a recruiter is based on recruiters who were on the verge of leaving their jobs as a result of failing in their roles. What you require to be successful in this role is good communication skills and good selling skills. Both of them are an art and a science. You have to sell the role. If you can't do it, you don't get your money. But I would agree with you if you say Math and Stat are as important to succeed in any given role.
Lack of Love for Money
d) Lack of love for money. It is the inner urge to earn more money that drives one's ambition. I have seen a few recruiters quite complacent. You ought to be kidding now. I have seen so many stupid trainers in my life that I have ever bargained for. However, I won't damn the entire profession of trainers. There are trainers who never go beyond learning what they already know. But I couldn't make an assumption - Trainers don't love money. Successful trainers do.
Inability to Plan One's Career
e) Inability to plan one's career. Unfortunately, sometimes MBAs end up as recruiters. This is because of a lack of self-esteem. So many trainers remain trainers for their entire life. They don't start a company. But the good ones do and make a lot of money. Besides, you need a doctor to hire a doctor. You need a Trainer to recruit a trainer and so on. Perhaps you are referring to an MBA recruiter who only hires MBAs. If that isn't the case, I am convinced you don't have a clue about recruitment companies.
Recruiters' Professional Environment
f) Recruiters don't have to rub their shoulders with average people. Sometimes senior professionals in other disciplines have to deal with mediocre people. Recruiters, in contrast, have their own haven in which they find birds of their feather. Seriously, you have lost the plot here, didn't you?
Nevertheless, a recruiter's job is plain grind. It has its own challenges. Sometimes candidates give the least regard to recruiters. They do not turn up for interviews. Selected candidates do not turn up for the job. Plus, there is pressure for closure for 'x' number of positions. Do you think a Neuro-surgeon's job is more exciting? He drills into the same kind of skulls every day for a living. The Pareto rule applies everywhere. Besides, the trainer gives out the same verbal diarrhea for every other session he takes.
I have given my observations. However, my boldness should not be construed as boorishness. I am sure these are your observations without bothering to look for the facts around you. Ineffective training also includes the one without researching.
The other factors for women are marriage and going family way. But then these are universal and recruiters only cannot be singled out. Why make a point then?
Initially, I thought of not writing to avoid an exchange; however, I thought I wouldn't be fair to those young impressionable lassies reading such a disparaging write-up about the profession they intend to take. This is a serious profession and a serious job for people who want to make a career. Well, let's admit the fairer sex has a genetic advantage of better communication skills over males. They do get a head start and could hit the ground running; however, it takes a lot more than genetic advantage to reach the finish line.
So in conclusion, your observations about the recruiter tribe are simply a product of ill-researched facts. Alas! Damn me for being a man, I only wish I had better communication skills to convince you. Therefore, I await your bold or boorish comments alike.
Cheers,
Saj
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Your analysis is way off the mark, especially for a trainer. Your analysis is about mediocre recruiters or recruiters who failed at their jobs and not that of a top biller. Moreover, I could excuse you if you don't know much about the recruitment industry given you are from the training industry.
Lack of Self-Awareness
a) Lack of self-awareness. This is because of a lack of personality development. In order to be "successful" in any profession, a good personality cannot be discounted ever. My assumption is right; you have only seen unsuccessful recruiters until now.
Disinclination to Take Challenges
b) Disinclination to take challenges. There are a lot of jobs available in operations, supply chain, marketing, advertising, etc. But it may not be a table and chair job. Recruiters prefer to slog on a chair rather than on the shop floor or field. I am convinced you would not know about head-hunters and the entire spectrum of the recruitment industry. You have never heard about Addeco. You wouldn't know until now from me that they are grossing over €20 billion in revenues. Table and Chair Job - You are getting hilarious now.
Lack of Analytical Skills
c) Many of them lack analytical skills. This is because of a poor command over Maths and Stats. Many other disciplines demand command over these two subjects. Seriously, your conclusion about a recruiter is based on recruiters who were on the verge of leaving their jobs as a result of failing in their roles. What you require to be successful in this role is good communication skills and good selling skills. Both of them are an art and a science. You have to sell the role. If you can't do it, you don't get your money. But I would agree with you if you say Math and Stat are as important to succeed in any given role.
Lack of Love for Money
d) Lack of love for money. It is the inner urge to earn more money that drives one's ambition. I have seen a few recruiters quite complacent. You ought to be kidding now. I have seen so many stupid trainers in my life that I have ever bargained for. However, I won't damn the entire profession of trainers. There are trainers who never go beyond learning what they already know. But I couldn't make an assumption - Trainers don't love money. Successful trainers do.
Inability to Plan One's Career
e) Inability to plan one's career. Unfortunately, sometimes MBAs end up as recruiters. This is because of a lack of self-esteem. So many trainers remain trainers for their entire life. They don't start a company. But the good ones do and make a lot of money. Besides, you need a doctor to hire a doctor. You need a Trainer to recruit a trainer and so on. Perhaps you are referring to an MBA recruiter who only hires MBAs. If that isn't the case, I am convinced you don't have a clue about recruitment companies.
Recruiters' Professional Environment
f) Recruiters don't have to rub their shoulders with average people. Sometimes senior professionals in other disciplines have to deal with mediocre people. Recruiters, in contrast, have their own haven in which they find birds of their feather. Seriously, you have lost the plot here, didn't you?
Nevertheless, a recruiter's job is plain grind. It has its own challenges. Sometimes candidates give the least regard to recruiters. They do not turn up for interviews. Selected candidates do not turn up for the job. Plus, there is pressure for closure for 'x' number of positions. Do you think a Neuro-surgeon's job is more exciting? He drills into the same kind of skulls every day for a living. The Pareto rule applies everywhere. Besides, the trainer gives out the same verbal diarrhea for every other session he takes.
I have given my observations. However, my boldness should not be construed as boorishness. I am sure these are your observations without bothering to look for the facts around you. Ineffective training also includes the one without researching.
The other factors for women are marriage and going family way. But then these are universal and recruiters only cannot be singled out. Why make a point then?
Initially, I thought of not writing to avoid an exchange; however, I thought I wouldn't be fair to those young impressionable lassies reading such a disparaging write-up about the profession they intend to take. This is a serious profession and a serious job for people who want to make a career. Well, let's admit the fairer sex has a genetic advantage of better communication skills over males. They do get a head start and could hit the ground running; however, it takes a lot more than genetic advantage to reach the finish line.
So in conclusion, your observations about the recruiter tribe are simply a product of ill-researched facts. Alas! Damn me for being a man, I only wish I had better communication skills to convince you. Therefore, I await your bold or boorish comments alike.
Cheers,
Saj
From India, Bangalore
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