I'm working in a company for past 16 Months. Till i didn't got my Confirmation Letter.I was appointed by a Manager who is located in our State. After my appointment my reporting person was changed, who is in another State.
Problem is if i contact my HR or Reporting Head regarding Confirmation and if my manager comes to know, he will get upset and i'll get different kinds of problems which may even lead to quit my job.
i was mailing to my manager for past 3 Months for Confirmation, due to busy he not even looking my mail.Our's is a corporate company where above 1000 peoples working and its a matter of second for me to contact my HR but thinking about his mentality i'm unable to do anything.
Please guide me whether Confirmation Letter is important.
From India, Selam
Problem is if i contact my HR or Reporting Head regarding Confirmation and if my manager comes to know, he will get upset and i'll get different kinds of problems which may even lead to quit my job.
i was mailing to my manager for past 3 Months for Confirmation, due to busy he not even looking my mail.Our's is a corporate company where above 1000 peoples working and its a matter of second for me to contact my HR but thinking about his mentality i'm unable to do anything.
Please guide me whether Confirmation Letter is important.
From India, Selam
I think you can not claim for confirmation and it is the job of management to decide about your confirmation. Pl refer the judgement of H’ble Supreme Court in the case of Shamser Singh.
From India, Mumbai
1From India, Mumbai
If your letter of appointment specified the duration of probation, the company should either issue confirmation letter or inform you that your probation has been extended by some months. If the company fails to do it, even after lapse of few months after the expiry of your probation period, you are deemed to have been confirmed. the company cannot eternally keep an employee unde probation.
B.Saikumar
HR & Labour Law advisor
Mumbai.
From India, Mumbai
B.Saikumar
HR & Labour Law advisor
Mumbai.
From India, Mumbai
Dear Sai Sir, thanks for the reply. My Probation is 3 Months as per Appointment order. as i already told if i contact my HO or Reporting officer it will be solved but from my local head i'll get problem.
Pls confirm whether to get Confirmation letter from my Ho is important for my future.
From India, Selam
Pls confirm whether to get Confirmation letter from my Ho is important for my future.
From India, Selam
Mr.Ganesh
For all practical purposes, you are deemed to be confirmed from the administrative practice point of view in the industry.It is only a paper confirmaion if they issue a letter of confirmaton. However, moods, perceptions and beliefs will chane with the change of time. Try to time perfectly your request for confirmation letter. For example, choose to push your request when mangement is pleased with your performance. Otherwise, it should not be a matter of worry for you from the point of view of future since they have to give you service for the period you worked in the company.
B.Saikumar
HR & labour Law Advisor
Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
For all practical purposes, you are deemed to be confirmed from the administrative practice point of view in the industry.It is only a paper confirmaion if they issue a letter of confirmaton. However, moods, perceptions and beliefs will chane with the change of time. Try to time perfectly your request for confirmation letter. For example, choose to push your request when mangement is pleased with your performance. Otherwise, it should not be a matter of worry for you from the point of view of future since they have to give you service for the period you worked in the company.
B.Saikumar
HR & labour Law Advisor
Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Dear Sir, Don’t worry about confirmation letter, you discharge your duties deligently, that itself is enough to work in permanent nature. D.Gurumurthy HR/IR Consultant
From India, Hyderabad
From India, Hyderabad
Dear, Stick to Mr. Sai and Mr. Gurumurthy advices. Keep on performing. Don’t bother for confirmation. All the best
From India, Warangal
From India, Warangal
Mr. Sai's advice is excellent, if organization is large with 1000+ staff and having corporate office, means org must be having SOPs guidelines. Managers are not adhering to guidelines laid by management and thus causing demotivation for Ganesh.
Its not only matter of working on permanent rolls as said by Mr. Murthy but he should also feel proud and motivated in such org.
I suggest you speak to your manager and no need to fear, ultimately when it will come to leave calculation, reimbursement, any benefits related to permanency of employee you should not be left behind just because of non efficiency of your manager though he is very busy in work. Try to speak to him personally, or else you can escalate this matter to corporate without any confusion, after all you are also working for growth of yourself and company as well.
All the best
From India, Pune
Its not only matter of working on permanent rolls as said by Mr. Murthy but he should also feel proud and motivated in such org.
I suggest you speak to your manager and no need to fear, ultimately when it will come to leave calculation, reimbursement, any benefits related to permanency of employee you should not be left behind just because of non efficiency of your manager though he is very busy in work. Try to speak to him personally, or else you can escalate this matter to corporate without any confusion, after all you are also working for growth of yourself and company as well.
All the best
From India, Pune
Dear Friend
Working in private management and to please the management depends on the performance of the individual. The person who takes you into duty is not relevant for them. The confirmation always depends upon the exigency of position for which you were taken as probationer.
Mere completing probation period doesn't entitles the person to seek the confirmation. untill and unless your services are confirmed in writing by your management you should not be treated as confirmed employee.Why you have to worry about confirmation. As long as you are permitted to work in the organization and getting salary for the same, you need worry about confirmation.
Even during probation period you will get some benefits like PF, Gratuity if you completes 5 yrs service, bonus, leaves etc. As and when you feel that it is not convenient to stay with your present organization, try to get a better offer else where and leave this one. Generally, if the employer satisfy with performance of probationer, he will confirm the services of such employee. if they donot consider the same even after expiry of the fixed period of probation, there might be some reason behind it.
Regards
NVRao
Naidupeta
From India, Nellore
Working in private management and to please the management depends on the performance of the individual. The person who takes you into duty is not relevant for them. The confirmation always depends upon the exigency of position for which you were taken as probationer.
Mere completing probation period doesn't entitles the person to seek the confirmation. untill and unless your services are confirmed in writing by your management you should not be treated as confirmed employee.Why you have to worry about confirmation. As long as you are permitted to work in the organization and getting salary for the same, you need worry about confirmation.
Even during probation period you will get some benefits like PF, Gratuity if you completes 5 yrs service, bonus, leaves etc. As and when you feel that it is not convenient to stay with your present organization, try to get a better offer else where and leave this one. Generally, if the employer satisfy with performance of probationer, he will confirm the services of such employee. if they donot consider the same even after expiry of the fixed period of probation, there might be some reason behind it.
Regards
NVRao
Naidupeta
From India, Nellore
Thanks for all, for the valuable replies. By seeing Sai Sir & Guru Sir replies my mind became peace and i'll not worry about the letter.
Some may think it is unnecessary fear, My Reason - it is my first job that to without more problems in work. Here God plays his role. From my joining 95% mails and works were done by me but in the name of my senior. No one in another branch or HO knows i'm working or not. it makes me peace less. Last week i filled my Appraisal and sent to Ho. As a HR Guru's please reply how will you evaluate my work if i'm doing in another persons name and you don't know that.
I don't know what is a corporate. From my experience( one Company only) some head and Seniors think they are the Owners and for solving any problem they have to be contacted even they don't have that power and it is kept pending by them, creating bad impression for the company.
Dear Sacheen sir, after joining the job - first rule told to me by senior was not to contact HO for any problem even it creates bad impression to company, because it will irritates my Manager.
At last, these were the things running in my Mind for the past 3 to 4 Months. After sharing with you my heart becomes light. let me get good sleep today. Goodnight to all.
From India, Selam
Some may think it is unnecessary fear, My Reason - it is my first job that to without more problems in work. Here God plays his role. From my joining 95% mails and works were done by me but in the name of my senior. No one in another branch or HO knows i'm working or not. it makes me peace less. Last week i filled my Appraisal and sent to Ho. As a HR Guru's please reply how will you evaluate my work if i'm doing in another persons name and you don't know that.
I don't know what is a corporate. From my experience( one Company only) some head and Seniors think they are the Owners and for solving any problem they have to be contacted even they don't have that power and it is kept pending by them, creating bad impression for the company.
Dear Sacheen sir, after joining the job - first rule told to me by senior was not to contact HO for any problem even it creates bad impression to company, because it will irritates my Manager.
At last, these were the things running in my Mind for the past 3 to 4 Months. After sharing with you my heart becomes light. let me get good sleep today. Goodnight to all.
From India, Selam
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