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Employee Bond for overseas training
We are sending an employee of us on oversees training, before process his documents we need to make sure that post having a training he has to serve at least an year to the company furthermore he must trained one more employee, for the said we need to have a sign contract. if any one can have and share will be greatly appreciate.

From Pakistan, Karachi
Dear Ravita
1) During the interview u should have asked about no of leaves applicable to your category. Your problem would have been solved there and there only.
2) Pl clarify that your orgnisation is covered under Factories Act or Shops & Establishment Act?
(Factory or IT firm)
3) Leave is depending on the item no 2.
3) How many weekly off you are enjoying?
Pl clarify above to give right advice.

Dear Ravitha,
Before joining company , you should get all the details from the company and should not trust the consultancy as they could want to get their own mean only .
You can suggest your company to choose any other good consultancy for recruitment of prospective employees . In this way you can TEACH A GOOD LESSON to that consultancy also .
Ankur Gupta

From India, Delhi
One response to my postings about the Postdoc Glut was from Dieter who expalined

that I (and others who feel as I feel) should get out of academia and into the

real world where there are plenty of opportunities for PhDs.(!?)

Apparently Dieter (who works for Geofuels) has landed such a job and I wish him

good luck. However, I am *NOT* having the same experiences as he.

I have worked for a private company as well as for the governement (my current

postdoc) and I haven't found a home in either.

I agree that one should broaden one's horizons by looking for jobs in industry,

(I don't know of any PhD who would chose unemployment to an non-academic job)

but I have found the job market outside Universities to be just as difficult.

My postings on the E-board were a direct attack upon graduate schools producing

more PhDs. I illustrated my point by explaining that Universities are producing

far more PhDs than they themselves wish to hire (as faculty). However, I did

not mean that the only jobs available are in academia. My point is that

academia use the EXCUSE that Dieter suggests to justify their PhD production.

The fact is industry (in general) is closing down R&D not expanding.

An interesting statistic came through my E-mail this morning. It concerns only

Bacholors degrees, but I feel it acts as a good indication of the trends in

science (This data was complied by Gene Nelson, PhD, not me):

According to Braddock "Scientific and Technical Employment 1990-2005" in Monthly

Labor review (pg35) in 1990 the market demanded 74,466 Bachlor Degrees in

Science and Engineering. Yet According to the NSF Data Book (1992 NSF92-331)

the number of BS awarded in 1990 was 329,094! So in 1990 alone there were more

than four times as many BS's as the market demanded. A buyer's market.

OK. I know that number can be argued down a variety of ways. (They are BS in

the wrong fields, how you define the market, etc), but my point is, most

of them won't find jobs (in science).

Actually, I know some recent BS's in the position of "cannot get a job but

cannot throw away my college education" so they enter GRAD SCHOOL! They hope

that they can ride out the market-demand storm in the safety of school and come

out more employable. (HAHA). Naturally, I've tried to set them straight. They

ask "Well, what the hell am I suppose to do? Quit? Be unemployed? At least I get

a stipends as a grad student.". Another crop of PhDs being sown for the harvest.

(Fattened up for the slaughter).

I don't know of any lab (academia, government or industry) which hirers

more PhDs than BS (too top heavy). So if BS are finding problems getting jobs,

as the above statistic suggests, why should we think the PhD posts will be any

easier to come by.

Industry and government are both scaling back and the future situation isn't too

bright for the PhD. Dieter's suggestion about consultancy is good, but like

being a king "it's good work if you can get it".

With my MBA (to be awarded next year) I sincerely hope to make it in the world

of Biotech-consultantcy. But I don't have as much hope for it as Dieter.

It isn't easy getting started in consulatncy.

Here's a bit of an aside about CONTRACTS (it sort of relates to consulting):

As a matter of fact I hoped to get into consultantcy last year (before I even

started my MBA) with the idea that if I offered my services FREE, I might

develope a base of clients and learn the inner workings of the field.

Unfortunatly, before I even got a chance to send out my letters (to drum up

business), the Director of the Institute found out, (I had mentioned it to my

boss, and she looked very sour and told the Director my plans.).

He hauled me into his office, read me the Riot Act and told me that I

was hired to be a postdoc, a 24 hour job demanding my complete attention.

Consulting was out of the question and he would not permit it! I told him

(politely) that what I do in the evenings and weekends was none of his


He told me that it was, and pointed to a clause in my contract which reiterated

his opinion about Moonlighting and specifically forbid any other work "Paid or

unpaid"! Christ was I pissed! So, he simply said, "continue with this and you

are fired" (because my contract also states that he can fire me on the spot for

"diciplinary reason".). As I have said before "Read your contracts." Your's

maybe more flexiable, but read it again to see.

Anyway, I've cleared it with my new "boss" in my new post which starts next

month. So I hope to give free biotech consulting services starting October.

Counting my experiernces before I went back to get my PhD, I have worked in six

different labs in many areas of Biotechnology (monoclonals, cancer, AIDS,

transgenics, drug evaluation, etc) so I think me background is complete.

I hope Dieter (and others) can offer some suggestions of :

1: How to develope a cliental list?

2: How much to (eventually) charge?

3: Any other suggestions.

My "research" (library stuff) found that there are about 60 consulting agencies

world-wide which specify that they do Bio-tech consulting work. I might get my

career started by contacting some of them (to get experience).

What do you think?

From India, Delhi
Was it a rude behavior? I don’t think so and neither did the consultant made any false commitment to you. Regarding your query about leave, I am sure he must have told you, “You will be entitled to all leave as per the company policies”. At his level he cannot commit you anything that is not the part of company policy. Doesn’t matter what you like to call him or how you want to treat him but remember that he has played in important role in getting you the job. Your skills would have been of no use had he not provided you with an opportunity. There are so many skilled and educated people out there but not everyone is getting opportunities.
I hope this will help. Have a great day and take good care of yourself.

From India, Mumbai

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