Dear All,
Today I want to share my views with you all. It is directly or indirectly related to all of us. As we all see various aspects of recruitment in our day to day work life and have ample of opportunity to interact with HR consultants (Recruitment consultant). I observed that there is mushrooming of unprofessional recruitment consultancies and they are tarnishing the image of HR profession. I came to this conclusion because of following points:
1). Most of the recruitment consultants have team of unqualified workforce. Most of the consultancies are having graduates & undergraduates because of there low labour cost. They give them designation of HR executive or consultant. Person who is neither having knowledge nor experience when take interview or deal with a person who is far more senior in every aspect you know what happen. He not only put his but all HR professional’s reputation on stake.
2) HR consultant will give you tons of resumes which is nowhere your requirements. They will search from portals like a machine and forward you resumes. Now it's your head hack to short out the best candidates from the pool of so called great candidates.
3). If you go though job posting posted by consultants on various job portals. You will understand how much serious they are and how they work.
4).When these untrained candidates having 1-2 yrs of experience under there belt join some organization. You all know what blunder they make.
According to me it's not mistake of guys who join the recruitment consultancies. It is gross mistake of owner or boss of consultancy who hire graduates because of money when better qualified guys available in market. Not only this they will not invest single penny on there training and development. They treat them as commodity of use and through. In all this process who most suffer or face the blunt is HR profession. Due to these other professionals don't take HR (mostly at enter level) as seriously. HR consultancies will not leave any stone unturned for making mockery of HR profession because of there pity interest. It is high time that HR industry do something in this regard.
These are my personal views. I don't want to hurt the sentiments of anybody. If directly or indirectly my words hurt any body then forgive me. But I have written this because I believe it is true. I also agree there are some good consultancies and some great consultants but they are like drop in ocean. I request all the members HR fraternity to correct me if I am wrong.
Regards
White Eagle
From India, Hyderabad
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24Today I want to share my views with you all. It is directly or indirectly related to all of us. As we all see various aspects of recruitment in our day to day work life and have ample of opportunity to interact with HR consultants (Recruitment consultant). I observed that there is mushrooming of unprofessional recruitment consultancies and they are tarnishing the image of HR profession. I came to this conclusion because of following points:
1). Most of the recruitment consultants have team of unqualified workforce. Most of the consultancies are having graduates & undergraduates because of there low labour cost. They give them designation of HR executive or consultant. Person who is neither having knowledge nor experience when take interview or deal with a person who is far more senior in every aspect you know what happen. He not only put his but all HR professional’s reputation on stake.
2) HR consultant will give you tons of resumes which is nowhere your requirements. They will search from portals like a machine and forward you resumes. Now it's your head hack to short out the best candidates from the pool of so called great candidates.
3). If you go though job posting posted by consultants on various job portals. You will understand how much serious they are and how they work.
4).When these untrained candidates having 1-2 yrs of experience under there belt join some organization. You all know what blunder they make.
According to me it's not mistake of guys who join the recruitment consultancies. It is gross mistake of owner or boss of consultancy who hire graduates because of money when better qualified guys available in market. Not only this they will not invest single penny on there training and development. They treat them as commodity of use and through. In all this process who most suffer or face the blunt is HR profession. Due to these other professionals don't take HR (mostly at enter level) as seriously. HR consultancies will not leave any stone unturned for making mockery of HR profession because of there pity interest. It is high time that HR industry do something in this regard.
These are my personal views. I don't want to hurt the sentiments of anybody. If directly or indirectly my words hurt any body then forgive me. But I have written this because I believe it is true. I also agree there are some good consultancies and some great consultants but they are like drop in ocean. I request all the members HR fraternity to correct me if I am wrong.
Regards
White Eagle
From India, Hyderabad
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Hello White Eagle,
I am thankful to you for raising this query. I do not know if it is a right cost-cutting strategy from the HR's perspective, but MBA freshers like me have to tolerate the brunt of it. Most of the consultancies prefer graduates from any stream or even HSC over MBAs. This is my personal bad experience. We MBAs get demotivated with this act of consultancies. The head of one of the consultancies, while taking my interview, even told me that "Recruitment can be understood easily. So, it is anytime better to hire undergrads or graduates if they have good communication skills. It helps us to cut costs."
According to me, recruitment is a core function and should be handled by expert and learned HR professionals. Unfortunately, it is being degraded and neglected to a large extent.
From India, Mumbai
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I am thankful to you for raising this query. I do not know if it is a right cost-cutting strategy from the HR's perspective, but MBA freshers like me have to tolerate the brunt of it. Most of the consultancies prefer graduates from any stream or even HSC over MBAs. This is my personal bad experience. We MBAs get demotivated with this act of consultancies. The head of one of the consultancies, while taking my interview, even told me that "Recruitment can be understood easily. So, it is anytime better to hire undergrads or graduates if they have good communication skills. It helps us to cut costs."
According to me, recruitment is a core function and should be handled by expert and learned HR professionals. Unfortunately, it is being degraded and neglected to a large extent.
From India, Mumbai
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Yes, I agree that some recruitment agencies are playing with the sentiments of the applicants. To prove their efforts and to increase the number of referred candidates, sometimes they forward the interview call without even going through the resumes. After reaching the venue, desiring applicants see that this post was not for them. We should rely only upon trusted networks.
From India, Delhi
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Yes, I agree with WE.
But we cannot expect all the HR consultants to function with the highest degree of standard. This scenario is present in all industries. If you want to enlist the help of consultants in recruitment, you must assess the quality of the services they provide. It is important for us to screen the consultants based on the professional services they offer. I think not all of them are subpar. There are recruitment consultancies that provide professional solutions with a high degree of standard. I hope you will agree with my point.
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Shijit.
From India, Kochi
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But we cannot expect all the HR consultants to function with the highest degree of standard. This scenario is present in all industries. If you want to enlist the help of consultants in recruitment, you must assess the quality of the services they provide. It is important for us to screen the consultants based on the professional services they offer. I think not all of them are subpar. There are recruitment consultancies that provide professional solutions with a high degree of standard. I hope you will agree with my point.
Regards,
Shijit.
From India, Kochi
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Hi White Eagle,
I totally agree with your views and comments, and the way you have projected the entire issues. It is really high time that we should look forward to correcting the entire system.
At times, these recruitment firms call for the 1st round of interviews with them, and you find that the person who took the interview is below par in terms of the knowledge of your expectations, and they might reject you based on what they only know. Thus, a bright candidate gets rejected then and there.
You will find a lot of postings on leading job portals have poor job descriptions and company profiles mentioned, and the contact number provided is never working by these below-average recruitment consultants.
Thanks,
AB
From India, Lucknow
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I totally agree with your views and comments, and the way you have projected the entire issues. It is really high time that we should look forward to correcting the entire system.
At times, these recruitment firms call for the 1st round of interviews with them, and you find that the person who took the interview is below par in terms of the knowledge of your expectations, and they might reject you based on what they only know. Thus, a bright candidate gets rejected then and there.
You will find a lot of postings on leading job portals have poor job descriptions and company profiles mentioned, and the contact number provided is never working by these below-average recruitment consultants.
Thanks,
AB
From India, Lucknow
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Dear White Eagle,
Nice name! Thank you for sharing your views as an HR professional. HR plays a crucial role in organizations, teams, and groups, working towards achieving predetermined objectives. Firstly, never apologize for speaking the truth, as seen by you and your group. Embrace being a white eagle, reminiscent of Lord Krishna's vehicle.
Regarding the concept of a "team of unqualified workforce," it's essential to acknowledge that fresh MBAs may lack the practical experience that someone with a few years of work experience possesses. The ability to learn on the job and deliver results depends on individual drive and motivation. In some cases, there may be little distinction between an MBA and a graduate in terms of job performance. Those who don't receive incentives often seek opportunities elsewhere, avoiding the need to confront their skill development. Having a young boss or being interviewed by a capable young professional should not be viewed negatively.
In many cases, CVs are selected based on job descriptions provided over the phone, as written JDs are not always readily available. HR often has to create JDs based on brief inputs from HODs due to time constraints. This lack of detailed information can lead to mismatches between job requirements and candidate qualifications.
The lack of professionalism in our organizations is evident in practices such as scheduling interviews only a day in advance. This short notice can put pressure on candidates who may not have adequate time to prepare. The behavior of HR personnel during interviews, even at the GM level, can sometimes lack basic courtesy. Candidates may feel apprehensive about the process, impacting their performance during interviews.
It's crucial for HR professionals to maintain a high level of maturity and professionalism in their interactions. Instances of unprofessional behavior, such as inappropriate comments during phone conversations, should be avoided. Employees expect a certain level of professionalism from HR personnel to ensure a positive experience.
While the truth may be uncomfortable, it's essential to address areas that need improvement. Encouraging recruiters to enhance their performance and holding consultants accountable for their success rates can lead to better outcomes for all involved. Let's strive for open and professional communication, focusing on constructive feedback and growth.
Warm regards,
M
PS: I appreciate your willingness to share your views openly. Let's continue to have candid discussions for mutual improvement.
From India, Gurgaon
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Nice name! Thank you for sharing your views as an HR professional. HR plays a crucial role in organizations, teams, and groups, working towards achieving predetermined objectives. Firstly, never apologize for speaking the truth, as seen by you and your group. Embrace being a white eagle, reminiscent of Lord Krishna's vehicle.
Regarding the concept of a "team of unqualified workforce," it's essential to acknowledge that fresh MBAs may lack the practical experience that someone with a few years of work experience possesses. The ability to learn on the job and deliver results depends on individual drive and motivation. In some cases, there may be little distinction between an MBA and a graduate in terms of job performance. Those who don't receive incentives often seek opportunities elsewhere, avoiding the need to confront their skill development. Having a young boss or being interviewed by a capable young professional should not be viewed negatively.
In many cases, CVs are selected based on job descriptions provided over the phone, as written JDs are not always readily available. HR often has to create JDs based on brief inputs from HODs due to time constraints. This lack of detailed information can lead to mismatches between job requirements and candidate qualifications.
The lack of professionalism in our organizations is evident in practices such as scheduling interviews only a day in advance. This short notice can put pressure on candidates who may not have adequate time to prepare. The behavior of HR personnel during interviews, even at the GM level, can sometimes lack basic courtesy. Candidates may feel apprehensive about the process, impacting their performance during interviews.
It's crucial for HR professionals to maintain a high level of maturity and professionalism in their interactions. Instances of unprofessional behavior, such as inappropriate comments during phone conversations, should be avoided. Employees expect a certain level of professionalism from HR personnel to ensure a positive experience.
While the truth may be uncomfortable, it's essential to address areas that need improvement. Encouraging recruiters to enhance their performance and holding consultants accountable for their success rates can lead to better outcomes for all involved. Let's strive for open and professional communication, focusing on constructive feedback and growth.
Warm regards,
M
PS: I appreciate your willingness to share your views openly. Let's continue to have candid discussions for mutual improvement.
From India, Gurgaon
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Bravo Mahalakshmi!
From the sound of your reply, language used, and insights, you come across as a mature HR professional. White Eagle's observations are amateurish and arrogant. The so-called corporate HR needs to learn a lot about HR in the real world, which is not taught in the books they study in half-baked business schools.
The Corporate HR needs to be competent enough to choose consultants carefully. If they cannot do that, then the blame lies on their heads for failing to select competent consultants.
The Corporate HR may be the most unwanted post within their organizations as they are under constant pressure to prove their utility to the organization and contribute to the bottom line.
In recruitment consultants, they find someone they can boss around and mistreat as they have been mistreated in their own organizations. A little power over the consultants goes to their heads, and they show how thoroughly incompetent and insensitive they are!
The corporate HR needs to face the truth about their low self-esteem and incompetence.
Get mature, White Eagle!
Good HR Associates
From India, Chandigarh
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From the sound of your reply, language used, and insights, you come across as a mature HR professional. White Eagle's observations are amateurish and arrogant. The so-called corporate HR needs to learn a lot about HR in the real world, which is not taught in the books they study in half-baked business schools.
The Corporate HR needs to be competent enough to choose consultants carefully. If they cannot do that, then the blame lies on their heads for failing to select competent consultants.
The Corporate HR may be the most unwanted post within their organizations as they are under constant pressure to prove their utility to the organization and contribute to the bottom line.
In recruitment consultants, they find someone they can boss around and mistreat as they have been mistreated in their own organizations. A little power over the consultants goes to their heads, and they show how thoroughly incompetent and insensitive they are!
The corporate HR needs to face the truth about their low self-esteem and incompetence.
Get mature, White Eagle!
Good HR Associates
From India, Chandigarh
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Dear Mahalakshmi,
Thanks for your views and suggestions. I totally agree with your views that there are loopholes in corp. HR side also and I request all HR family to look into this. Our basic purpose behind taking help of recruitment consultants is that we well get right match as per our requirement in a short time. We believe that recruitment consultant will provide us best matching candidate from the pool of great candidates. But sorry to say because of poor show of recruitment consultants they prospective candidates do not show interest in opening and we get resume of best candidate out of pool of worst candidates (acc. to requirement).
I agree that some org. do not provide proper JD's. Is it not the responsibility of consultant that they ask for proper JD's and more specific details? If they feel that something is missing or they require more information or clarifications. Why don't they ask for it? It's better to ask for more details and clarifications rather than giving excuse afterwards.
I agree that there is time challenge but now days in most cases good org. is ready to give 2-3 day time for interview. Practically in most scenarios it is not possible to give more time. If candidate is interested then I don't think he require more than this time. Now day’s co’s are ready to schedule interviews in early or late office hour's So that there is no need of taking full day leave for candidates. Good orgs value the time of candidate's and take interview on priority. I request all HR's to see that in any case candidate must not have to wait for interview otherwise it will spoil the image of org.
I hope HR and consultants will do there part professionally so that it will be win-win situation for all. Once again lakshmi thanks for your views.
Dear Good HR Associates,
Thanks for your genuine and straight views. According to you all MBA universities are useless and those studying there are worthless. There is no need of gaining learning from books and collages. Then I don't know why govt. is investing show much for bookish study and pvt. org. running for campus recruitments.
"Corporate HR may be the most unwanted post"- good joke. Co's gone out of mind that’s why they had created this post and according to you all corp. HR are incompetent and fools. Why then all people are interested in this unwanted post. It is not chance, it is choice which lead to destiny and I hope you know if you give people choice where they will go (Corp. or Rec. consultancy’s)
I am sorry if you have to face rude HR professionals in your day to day office life. I request all professional to maintain respect and human dignity. We can not manage people, we can only lead them.
Get mature White Eagle! - If telling truth is immaturity? If informing loopholes is immaturity? And giving feedback is immaturity? (So that we improve our performance and grow) Then I am immature and I will love to remain immature.
Thanks mature Good HR Associates for your views and forgive me for my views.
From India, Hyderabad
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Thanks for your views and suggestions. I totally agree with your views that there are loopholes in corp. HR side also and I request all HR family to look into this. Our basic purpose behind taking help of recruitment consultants is that we well get right match as per our requirement in a short time. We believe that recruitment consultant will provide us best matching candidate from the pool of great candidates. But sorry to say because of poor show of recruitment consultants they prospective candidates do not show interest in opening and we get resume of best candidate out of pool of worst candidates (acc. to requirement).
I agree that some org. do not provide proper JD's. Is it not the responsibility of consultant that they ask for proper JD's and more specific details? If they feel that something is missing or they require more information or clarifications. Why don't they ask for it? It's better to ask for more details and clarifications rather than giving excuse afterwards.
I agree that there is time challenge but now days in most cases good org. is ready to give 2-3 day time for interview. Practically in most scenarios it is not possible to give more time. If candidate is interested then I don't think he require more than this time. Now day’s co’s are ready to schedule interviews in early or late office hour's So that there is no need of taking full day leave for candidates. Good orgs value the time of candidate's and take interview on priority. I request all HR's to see that in any case candidate must not have to wait for interview otherwise it will spoil the image of org.
I hope HR and consultants will do there part professionally so that it will be win-win situation for all. Once again lakshmi thanks for your views.
Dear Good HR Associates,
Thanks for your genuine and straight views. According to you all MBA universities are useless and those studying there are worthless. There is no need of gaining learning from books and collages. Then I don't know why govt. is investing show much for bookish study and pvt. org. running for campus recruitments.
"Corporate HR may be the most unwanted post"- good joke. Co's gone out of mind that’s why they had created this post and according to you all corp. HR are incompetent and fools. Why then all people are interested in this unwanted post. It is not chance, it is choice which lead to destiny and I hope you know if you give people choice where they will go (Corp. or Rec. consultancy’s)
I am sorry if you have to face rude HR professionals in your day to day office life. I request all professional to maintain respect and human dignity. We can not manage people, we can only lead them.
Get mature White Eagle! - If telling truth is immaturity? If informing loopholes is immaturity? And giving feedback is immaturity? (So that we improve our performance and grow) Then I am immature and I will love to remain immature.
Thanks mature Good HR Associates for your views and forgive me for my views.
From India, Hyderabad
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The point the dear member has given has more insightful thoughts and it gives a clear understanding of the present scenario of today’s consultancies. it should be endorsed by all. kb
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Hello Payal,
You have lived up to the reputation of recruiters. Your reply shows why individuals like White Eagle get frustrated with recruiters! What is the discussion about, and what kind of response are you providing?
My request to the Moderator: Please debar this member from this forum. A member who cannot demonstrate common sense while replying hardly deserves to be a member of this forum.
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From India, Bangalore
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You have lived up to the reputation of recruiters. Your reply shows why individuals like White Eagle get frustrated with recruiters! What is the discussion about, and what kind of response are you providing?
My request to the Moderator: Please debar this member from this forum. A member who cannot demonstrate common sense while replying hardly deserves to be a member of this forum.
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