neelam.totlani
Thanks Rajat,
Your post is very valuable, like a speck of light in darkness.
I an very interested in joining this field but really lost how should I go about, I send my unsolicited CV TO CORPORATE TRAINERS SHOWING INTEREST TO JOIN AS A TRAINEE BUT UNFORTUNATELY GET NO RESPONSE.
I was thinking of approaching schools and asking for 1 hour session for a workshop on "Personality Development" What do you suggest, should I go about this??????????
Please can you suggest something.
Regards,
Neelam.

From India, Mumbai
neelam.totlani
Dear Rajat,
To add further.
I am an MBA in HR, did my summer project in BHEL,BHopal in Training and Develpoment.
Currently working with SP Jain Institute of Management and Research,Mumbai, as a reseach assistant.
Have no work ex in proper HR, It will be kind of you if you could please help me out how should I go about .
Regards,
Neelam.

From India, Mumbai
Rajat Joshi
101

Hi Himanshu,
Extremely sorry for replying to your post.. :)
Thanks for your compliments...
We look forward to your contributions to this forum!. :D
Please feel free to touch base with me...
Thanks once again ...
Hi Bubbly,
:D :D :D ..thanks..
Hi Neelam,
Am glad to know that you found it useful.
Yes, your idea is good..please go ahead and this will teach you a lot. As mentioned earlier – assess your strong areas and the subjects/topics which you are passionate about. Be prepared on all accounts.
As far as corporate exp is concerned..don;t worry about the same as I forsee that in your current profile as Research Analyst with S P Jain would probably lead to a break with HR consulting firm and perhaps a stint or two in the Corporate Industry.
So dont worry - Just do it.. :D :D
Best of Luck .
Rajat Joshi

From India, Pune
neelam.totlani
Hi Rajat,
Thanks a lot for your response.
Its really motivating.
But you know, I tried doing this in my hometown ie Jabalpur (MP) and got a bad response there, therefore inspite of drafting letters for school principals I've not gathered the courage to go ahead submitting the same.
Anyways!!!!!!!!!!!
Please one more thing, how should I approach the schools :
via email or draft a letter or seek an appointment and meet then personally, which will be very effective.
once again thanks a lot for all your support and guidance

From India, Mumbai
cvadhana
1

Hello Sir

I understand that you are a very effective trainer...and more than that a good counsellor ....

My ultimate aim is to become a trainer and motivator ...may be around 10-15 years from now.. I am at present taking some classes on HR topics for Govt employees through Institute of Management in Govt (IMG). In the beginning i was afraid that since i'm a youngster , i would be looked down by the "older" members of the trainees .infact , i had to take classes even for those who were about to retire from service.

But then i understood that it is not the age that matters but ur knowledge in the subject that matters and also ur skills in presenting the same. But this oppurtnity i get is part of my work ...

Now i would like to know from you the right age for becoming a freelance trainer ??

and also i would like to know which is better ?

1)to focus on one or two main subjects... for eg: Quality Circle or Service delivery improvement or such very specific topics or

2)To be able to train on various topics like Communication skills, leadership skills, motivation , personality development, marketing , sales, etc...etc....

which of the above option is good for a freelance trianer??

Similarly i would also like to know about the methods of approaching companies for freelance trianing assignments?

Please reply sir

thanking you

CV

From India, Kochi
Rajat Joshi
101

Hi Neelam,

Hey, don't give up...that's the tradegy with us -(HR Professionals) - we give up easily..don;t have the aggressiveness or smart thinking followed by Marketing professionals..that's why they are worth every booty they get. :D :D

All of the above!!..

First make your proposal with emphasis on " Value Proposition"

Send them by email or by courier

Follow up and follow up..

Neelam, let me be honest..even i went through this grind..had approached as many as 25 B-schools in Pune..but no luck.. :( ..can be pretty depressing esp when you have set your heart out..at this stage ..always remember even the great /successful people have struggled a lot for their vision ..for somethng they beleived in themselves..which i did..therefore my 54th call on a B-school gave me an opportunity at Sadhna Centre for Management (SCMLD - Pune)..my first workshop On Creativity taught me a lot and confidence..today if i lose my job or my company closes down i would be able to fend for myself.. :D

So, prepare yourself well and try..the whole world is open.. :)

To further add to my opinion am sharing an article on a perspective on life at the end of this..

Best of Luck on a wonderful Journey..

Cheers,

Rajat Joshi

Hi CV,

Please call me Rajat.. :)

How do you know that?.. :D ..thanks for your compliments..

Wow..am really impressed with your thought process..

You are right that its not age that counts but your knowledge and the passion one brings into the session..

I remember for the one of the class at B-school..the students were expecting that the old N experienced..matured with the profile of retired guy n were shocked n surprised when i walked into the class.. :D ..

Right age..is in your mind..as when you think you have the experience, knowledge n more importantly PASSION..

The topics depends on you as what you are really comfortable with..n how much efforts and notes one makes on the subject on latest trends n techniques..

For instance on lateral thinking - i update myself on new trends n techniques..and keep making changes in my ppt. to make it further innovative based on the feedback of the participants..you can refer these under Lateral thinking & Creativity column in Organizational Development..

Please refer my response to Neelam..

Best of Luck...

Rajat Joshi

ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT LIFE.......

Author : Unknown

Day in and day out you will read articles that will help you get

better and better in the Game of LIfe.

Truly speaking life is not complicated as it appears or made to

appear.

Life really is like a movie - where you are the script writer, the

director, the actor, the critic. And like all movies it ends, with

you. What is important in life is not just the journey, but

the "quality" of it.

You must remember that you are not the only one in this "movie".

Everyone in this world is in a movie of their own. To make your movie

a success you have to link up with the other, as you can't succeed

alone. Every success story is a story of working together, each one

contributing his/her unique talent, skills and abilities. Do what you

know best and let others fill in the gaps.

Perseverance always pays. You can't fail if you don't quit. Find all

other ways to make a thing work.

As Winston Churchill said in Britain's darkest hour,

" Never, never, never ever give up ".

If you don't like where you are today, don't expect your tomorrow to

be any different, unless you have worked heart and soul for a change.

Change your attitude, your priorities, your activities, change from

being reactive to proactive, change from being reactive to creative.

You are the product of your thoughts. It is true that the "thoughts

are things". whatever you think about most of the time is what you

will create in your life.

Hint: If you want more than you think what you have now, don't "ever"

spend any energy to the thoughts of the lack.

You will receive what you give. If you want help try to be helpful.

If you want honest relationships, be truthful. If you want success,

help others get what they want. If you want love, be loving. the

corollary is you will always find what you are looking for.

Take time each day from the hectic routine, to center it on you -

even if it is a meager 45 – 60 minutes. Some people may also call it

meditation, but the idea is to check with your inner self if you are

on course to what you want. It is inventory taking on a daily basis.

That's why it is important to make "every" day the best as you can

make it to be, because it the "now" which is all what you have.

What the heck? Life is meant to be enjoyed, because none of us are

going to remain forever, why all these hassles you may say. I agree

with you entirely, yet, I might suggest that you look into whatever

is said here, to make your life a little more worthwhile.

Happiness Is An Inside Job

I am delighted when some people are finally disillusioned. Over the

course of thirty plus years of working, I have seen more than my

share of people who have acquired mountains of material possessions

but remain miserable, depressed, angry, unsatisfied, and sometimes,

desperate.

In many of those cases, their disillusion is a hopeful sign because

disillusion literally means then end of illusionment. If a person has

been living under the illusion that happiness would come from having

whatever they wanted, then the end of that illusion brings the

possibility that they might realize that happiness actually means

wanting what they already have; being free from the desire to

acquire.

Hunger is the body's signal to take in food. Thirst signals the need

to take in water. Fatigue is nature's way of telling us to take a

rest. The remedy for neglect of the body is often through the in-take

of something, so the solution lies in getting something from the

external world. On the other hand, there is a kind of unhappiness

that cannot be repaired by getting because it requires giving. There

is a kind of dissatisfaction, disappointment, and absence of joy that

is remedied by giving something out, doing something for others.

Happiness, the feeling of deep-down joy of life, and feeling really

good about yourself, comes not from acquiring, but by contributing.

Serenity comes from getting on good terms with one's imperfection,

accepting ones' limitations, and accepting what one cannot change.

Self-esteem, your true worth or value, is not measured by your

financial statement, job title, or trophies on a shelf. You are

precious because you are a creation of the highest order of

intelligence. If you forget the true source of your preciousness,

eventually you will experience an emptiness, a gnawing hunger. There

are not enough gold, jewels, cellular phones, sport-utility vehicles,

big-screen TVs, or anything material to nourish the soul. The spirit

can only be filled by giving, not by getting.

Happiness is an inside job that consists of

you becoming disillusioned that material acquisition is a measure of

your worth

you remembering who you really are (precious)

you finding your source

you laughing often

you serving with love

The ABC's of Happiness(unknown source)

Avoid negative sources, people, places, things and habits.

Believe in yourself.

Consider things from every angle.

Don't postpone joy!

Enjoy today. Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, today is a

gift,

that's why it's called the present.

Family and friends are hidden treasures.

Give up any anger you might have been hanging on to, but

Happiness is like perfume: you can't sprinkle it on others without

getting some on yourself.

Ignore those who try to discourage you.

Jolly + jovial + jestful = joyful!

Keep on learning. Learn something new each day.

Look for humor in everyday situations.

Make smiles happen.

Never lie, cheat, or steal. Always strike a fair deal.

Open your eyes, and see the beauty in all of nature.

Play. You don't stop playing because you grow old, you grow old

because you stop playing.

Quiet times give us balance.

Read, study and learn about something new every day.

Stop and smell the roses.

Take control of what you can; let God have the rest.

Understand others first, then seek to be understood.

Visualize happy memories.

Work at making others happy.

X-ercise your right to be unique.

Yearn for internal strengths

Zero in on laughter and go for it!

From India, Pune
neelam.totlani
Dear Rajat,. Thanks for all the positive feedback. Be in touch always Few months later I may have something exciting to share with you. Regards, Neelam.
From India, Mumbai
punitapsc
1

HI Anupama,
Good to know taht you are planning a training module on communication.
i think i will be able to be of some help to you
Plaese buzz me at if you need anything from me.
I have been taking teh communication classes in my organisation for the past few months.
Thanks
Punita


punitapsc
1

Rajat,
Read your article on Training and Development.
Can say i have just started my journey in this .I conduct small workshops and Communication classes but need a mentor as what ever i have done is all with my research and experience.
I would really be thankful to you if i can asist you in your training programmes as you mentioned that you conduct them on weekends.
You can mail me at too
I am eagerly waiting for a positive note from your side.
Thanks
Punita


Rajat Joshi
101

Dear all,

Came across the e-mail on HR e-groups on the discussion of experts on becoming a trainer.

Best wishes,

Rajat Joshi

Hi Fellow Professionals,



Let me add some more points...



Becoming a effective Trainer means learning to draw on your abilities and skills to train those who need your help.



Here are some of the attributes of successful and effective trainers:



Good Communications Skills:

Use clear and concise language to instruct, direct and coach

Use your active listening skills to draw them out and fully understand them

Maintain eye contact



Cognitive Ability:

Must have cognitive ability to identify and use resources.



Solid understanding of the subject (COMPETENCY):

Comprehensive understanding of the subject or skills

Willingness to draw from your background as a bridge or foundation to teach

Willingness to grow and update your professional development



Experience:

It helps if you have done the job personally (and well would be good too)

Previous experience in training



Patience:

New people can make mistakes while they learn

It often takes a few tries to get it right (keep up encouragement)

Remember how it was for you when you started out?



Interest in being a trainer:

You need to ¡®truly¡¯ enjoy helping people

Seeing people grow and learn makes you feel good

Seeing others¡¯ success gives you a sense of pride and satisfaction



Genuine respect for other people:

People view you as being knowledgeable (you model it)

People view you as being trustful and trustworthy (you¡¯ve earned it)



Well developed sense of humour:

You see the humour in the situation (you express it)

You don¡¯t take yourself or life too seriously (you lighten it)



Having these attributes and skills won¡¯t guarantee your success as a trainer or coach; but they will give you a better chance to do the job effectively. The more a trainer you demonstrate these, the more the trainees will respond to leadership, and the more productive they will become.





Characteristics of Effective Trainer and List of Trainer Don¡¯t¡¯s



Characteristics of Effective Trainers

The Trainer "Do's"



Like people.



Good Listener



Genuine interest (create enthusiasm).



Ability to establish rapport ("I am like you").



Cover the material and make it fun.



Frustrated actor.



Being adaptable; flexible (design on your feet).



Creative.



Emotional Maturity.



Know your audience.



Know when group "gets it".



Admit when you don¡¯t know something.



Be prepared.



Acknowledge new information.



Involve audience.

Dont's



Lecture.



Hold yourself out as an expert.



Talk too quietly, monotone.



Using too much of jargons.



Focussing to certain trainees alone.



Biased



Assume that we all know acronyms.



Assume that everyone understands.



discredit the content (curriculum).



Violate the ground rules.



Don¡¯t respect the audience.





--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Best Regards

RR. Venkataraman





-----Original Message-----

From: [mailto:rama.k.mishra@jpmorgan.com]

Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:10 AM

To:

Subject: [HRInnovators] Re: [HRCommunity] How to become a trainer - experience shared

Hi Subhas,

Very well said and I couln't agree with you more. And I'm sure all of us would agree to this and more.

I'll could add a just couple of points though only to supplement your excellent inputs.

1 Salesmanship: A Trainer need to be an excellent salesman to be able to convert the Learners from being passive attendees to active buyers of the Learning being imparted. Compare this to a Window shopping v/s a successful sale closure. The real success and the pleasure of training comes when your trainees wake up to the Value Proposition being sold by you, and become active learners.

2 Be a Show(wo)Man: Its a function of Impression, Impact and therefore Influence you create, a must for you to be able to engage the Audience over a long period of time. Your ability to keep the eyballs on you is the trick here. It is easy for the audience to float away, be sensitive to the audience, its needs, and response at all points in time and keep pulling them in. Some of the best trainers would actually win the Oscars.

3 Command Respect, do NOT Demand Respect: And this is a function of your knowledge, attitude & actions while in the session, remember each of the trainees probably knows it all (at least we all tend to think that way). Think a step ahead and be flexible to fine-tune your delivery while in session.

Regards,

RK

Rama Krishna



AVP - Learning & Development

JPMorgan Chase

( GDP: 695 4490 ( External: +91 22 5645 4490

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Subhas Biswas <subhas_biswas@yahoo.com>

03/15/2005 10:17 PM

Please respond to subhas_biswas



To: s_verlekar <s_verlekar@yahoo.co.in>

cc:

Subject: Re: [HRCommunity] How to become a trainer - experience shared

Dear Sheetal,

It is necessary to gain some qualification; study adult learning and handling of the participants.

The difficult part is to get a break and practice speaking to a group when you keep on thinking or

interacting with time clock ticking (read lunch approaching).

If you get carried away while talking, cannot manage time and have difficulty in keeping cool when

in trouble, this is not a profession for you.

Following habits do not go well with a trainer:

1. Smoking and drinking alcohol - although many use it extensively before, during break and after.

2. Absence of a sense of humour and wit.

3. Poor and slow Reading.

4. Interrupting people when listening.

Following are very useful:

1. Active listening.

2. Curiosity.

3. General knowledge.

4. Storytelling.

5. Respect for people of different learning abilities, gender and function.

One must attend a Train the Trainer program(minimum 5 days duration for behavioural training) to

practise the training skills. It is said for one hour training you should have ten hours of

practice, three hours of material and three sets of materials of short, appropriate and longer

sessions. Mark Twain required three week preparation for an impromptu lecture. So prepare,

practice and take feedback seriously.

You should be familiar with all training aids and be prepared to take the session when all

including power goes off.

You must also learn to extract a silent participant into the training while diplomatically shut

off a talker beyond certain point.

And lastly, training is not reading PPT slides or talking!!!!

It is a grossly unpaid or underpaid job. Very few can get the payments commensurate with the

efforts and experience (in India).

Wish you good luck.

This is my personal opinion generated from three decades of managing training, trainers and

trainess. I am still learning and get nervous in front of inncocent trainees.

Regards.

Subhas C Biswas

9820143690.

From India, Pune
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