"how abt discussiong on some other topic now...because this helps us understand the topic from different view point...
regards,
asha"
Sister Asha,
When I joined citehr there were a few members. At that time my focus was on constructive empowerment/peak performance. Then I had a few months incubation. Then I got a search message from citehr. Before incubation I have over 900 posts. Now my focus is on ZERO SOCIAL PATHOLOGY GANGA, of course, without missing the former focus. So I am trying to cool down Sidhehswar not to waste energy and utilising it fruitfully
regards
From India, Delhi
174regards,
asha"
Sister Asha,
When I joined citehr there were a few members. At that time my focus was on constructive empowerment/peak performance. Then I had a few months incubation. Then I got a search message from citehr. Before incubation I have over 900 posts. Now my focus is on ZERO SOCIAL PATHOLOGY GANGA, of course, without missing the former focus. So I am trying to cool down Sidhehswar not to waste energy and utilising it fruitfully
regards
From India, Delhi
"You want harmony or Violence? "
As far as I understand she very much wants harmony. She also understands that men are deprived of equal dignity. For that men are to come up. She says:
"It is not that women dont want men to have equal rights....I think all men need to fight for thier right ..i.e they will have to come openly / talk openly abt thier feelings...which they rarely do. "
From this thread itself it is very clear that men are not coming up "openly" to repair their dignity deprivation. So Ifeel that her observations are very right>
regards
From India, Delhi
As far as I understand she very much wants harmony. She also understands that men are deprived of equal dignity. For that men are to come up. She says:
"It is not that women dont want men to have equal rights....I think all men need to fight for thier right ..i.e they will have to come openly / talk openly abt thier feelings...which they rarely do. "
From this thread itself it is very clear that men are not coming up "openly" to repair their dignity deprivation. So Ifeel that her observations are very right>
regards
From India, Delhi
Becoming jittery due to dignity deprivation is one thing and striving for repair is another thing. To me geting lost in the former leads nowhere.
Men must strive for the latter as well and rather, that should be priority.
regards
From India, Delhi
Men must strive for the latter as well and rather, that should be priority.
regards
From India, Delhi
Dear Sir,
With due respect , now a days I lost any confidence to any women regarding they lie or say true, though it is sad , but they way our LAW maker describe the meanning of A " Women" , where there is no palce to protect my own mother/sister , if they face domestic violence in the hand of a dishonest Daughter-in -Law !!!
Any way , I take it your words as a true but would like to request to go thorugh this article by our famous Indian Husband .
Identity Crises of sLave indian family
http://indianhusbands.blogspot.com/2...an-family.html
From India, Delhi
With due respect , now a days I lost any confidence to any women regarding they lie or say true, though it is sad , but they way our LAW maker describe the meanning of A " Women" , where there is no palce to protect my own mother/sister , if they face domestic violence in the hand of a dishonest Daughter-in -Law !!!
Any way , I take it your words as a true but would like to request to go thorugh this article by our famous Indian Husband .
Identity Crises of sLave indian family
http://indianhusbands.blogspot.com/2...an-family.html
From India, Delhi
I am still hopeful that feminine women are not extinct from the society though feminist women are in abundance.
But if we are angered by the latter then we are conquered. So we must not miss our goal, that is, removal of dignity deprivation.
regards
From India, Delhi
But if we are angered by the latter then we are conquered. So we must not miss our goal, that is, removal of dignity deprivation.
regards
From India, Delhi
Yes sir ,
And for that this is the great example , why we should get angry ?
Have not seen , the open announce ment by our Honerable Misnister Renuka Ji , after DV Act .
Quote:
Result read this :
Four Indian Women Behind the bar due to Ms. Renuka Choudhary’s “Diwali Gift ( DV Act).
<link no longer exists - removed>
From India, Delhi
And for that this is the great example , why we should get angry ?
Have not seen , the open announce ment by our Honerable Misnister Renuka Ji , after DV Act .
Quote:
Result read this :
Four Indian Women Behind the bar due to Ms. Renuka Choudhary’s “Diwali Gift ( DV Act).
<link no longer exists - removed>
From India, Delhi
Dear Swarup
I dont know what kind of women u have met in ur life....by saying that u r worried abt ur mom / sis...how to save them from thier daughter - in - law...welll all these people u talked abt r after all women...
we human being are diferent..in our thinking...behaviour...culture...caste..creed...li kes..dislike...So it is obviuos we behave differently...all we can do is that we either try to understand them from others point of view...here no one is 100% correct....
if u are saying u cant trust women...then even i cld have said the same abt men..but i do belive thier are good men also.
v talk abt equal rights always....but all men here can u tell me what is ur contribution in household work??? v have been taught by our parents / society that girls need to do certain things and boys certain...u grow on those principles....and then we realise the loopholes in our so called society...but we hardly fight agst it...
we shldn't forget that women had been subject many problems previuosly..and there were hardly any one to help them...they had come together and faught for thier rights and r stlll doing it...some Men had also helped them...
Now unless and untill u guys come out how do u thing any one will come to know abt ur problems...we do hear cases of men being raped also...and i wont say it cant happen...so u need to fight/
when i start writing i write big stories... :D sorry for that
regards,
asha
I dont know what kind of women u have met in ur life....by saying that u r worried abt ur mom / sis...how to save them from thier daughter - in - law...welll all these people u talked abt r after all women...
we human being are diferent..in our thinking...behaviour...culture...caste..creed...li kes..dislike...So it is obviuos we behave differently...all we can do is that we either try to understand them from others point of view...here no one is 100% correct....
if u are saying u cant trust women...then even i cld have said the same abt men..but i do belive thier are good men also.
v talk abt equal rights always....but all men here can u tell me what is ur contribution in household work??? v have been taught by our parents / society that girls need to do certain things and boys certain...u grow on those principles....and then we realise the loopholes in our so called society...but we hardly fight agst it...
we shldn't forget that women had been subject many problems previuosly..and there were hardly any one to help them...they had come together and faught for thier rights and r stlll doing it...some Men had also helped them...
Now unless and untill u guys come out how do u thing any one will come to know abt ur problems...we do hear cases of men being raped also...and i wont say it cant happen...so u need to fight/
when i start writing i write big stories... :D sorry for that
regards,
asha
"Now unless and untill u guys come out how do u thing any one will come to know abt ur problems...we do hear cases of men being raped also...and i wont say it cant happen...so u need to fight/ "
Ashaji,
The problem is somewhat different. The problem is:
IGNORE THE FACTS AND LAW AND PREVAIL THE OPINION AND THAT IS THE LAW.
So all cries of men are cries in the wilderness. Has no concerned authority seen Areticle 51A(e) so far since 1976? Then before whom to cry?
regards
From India, Delhi
Ashaji,
The problem is somewhat different. The problem is:
IGNORE THE FACTS AND LAW AND PREVAIL THE OPINION AND THAT IS THE LAW.
So all cries of men are cries in the wilderness. Has no concerned authority seen Areticle 51A(e) so far since 1976? Then before whom to cry?
regards
From India, Delhi
asha Ji,
Haaa .. house hold work hater ..right?
Combination of 21st century wives and 16th century Husband ..right ?
and If any Husabnd do not good enough in the house hold work , not only he , his mother/sister deserve to go to jail ..right?
It will be nice , if any women is house hold work hater .. they should disclose it before marrige , not after marriage.
If they want a husbnad , who knows good house wold work , the same to be mentioned in thier CV.
It is cheating , that before marriage , project as a Sati sabtri and after marriage want all 21st century facility without taking any responsibility .
And when some dispute comes , again became abala Nari... very interesting.
By the way , till date I have seen so many of my frineds had married thier unemplyed Girls friends after college , but not seen a single female friends who have married thier unemplyed boy frineds!!!!
My view :
For you kind information , we are living in 21st cnetury , not in 16th century.
70% so called house hold work done by maid servants( some time Mother-in -Law) , 20% by Husbands and yes 10% done by wives , like ...sorry you will get agin angry.
But the reality is :
Man are from "Mars" and "Women" are from "Venus" and no one can change that .
And yes , in my life I have a women , who had sacrified her life or even worked in others house as a maid servant to make me a Engineers and after that she even ready to go to jail , as I do not know the house hold work and she deserve the punishment .. pelople term her as "Swarup's mum" and Our great LAW maker make the LAW in the form of "Domestic Violence Act" .
From India, Delhi
Haaa .. house hold work hater ..right?
Combination of 21st century wives and 16th century Husband ..right ?
and If any Husabnd do not good enough in the house hold work , not only he , his mother/sister deserve to go to jail ..right?
It will be nice , if any women is house hold work hater .. they should disclose it before marrige , not after marriage.
If they want a husbnad , who knows good house wold work , the same to be mentioned in thier CV.
It is cheating , that before marriage , project as a Sati sabtri and after marriage want all 21st century facility without taking any responsibility .
And when some dispute comes , again became abala Nari... very interesting.
By the way , till date I have seen so many of my frineds had married thier unemplyed Girls friends after college , but not seen a single female friends who have married thier unemplyed boy frineds!!!!
My view :
For you kind information , we are living in 21st cnetury , not in 16th century.
70% so called house hold work done by maid servants( some time Mother-in -Law) , 20% by Husbands and yes 10% done by wives , like ...sorry you will get agin angry.
But the reality is :
Man are from "Mars" and "Women" are from "Venus" and no one can change that .
And yes , in my life I have a women , who had sacrified her life or even worked in others house as a maid servant to make me a Engineers and after that she even ready to go to jail , as I do not know the house hold work and she deserve the punishment .. pelople term her as "Swarup's mum" and Our great LAW maker make the LAW in the form of "Domestic Violence Act" .
From India, Delhi
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