Good Morning Team, I am very concerned, wondering, and thinking about the appreciations received by members in CiteHR and the Knowledge Certification issued by CiteHR accordingly. There are different types of appreciation received by members; some of them are knowledge-based (very few), and some of them are fun-based (maximum).
Evaluating Member Knowledge
How could we evaluate the knowledge of CiteHR members based on that appreciation? It is tough to understand that a member got 300+ appreciations and must be knowledgeable. Think before appreciating someone's knowledge.
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From India, Gurgaon
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96Evaluating Member Knowledge
How could we evaluate the knowledge of CiteHR members based on that appreciation? It is tough to understand that a member got 300+ appreciations and must be knowledgeable. Think before appreciating someone's knowledge.
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From India, Gurgaon
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Appreciations and Their Impact
Appreciations were implemented to thank members for their contributions. Rather than posting a one-line thank you, the appreciation button allows a one-click response and encourages members to post only meaningful content.
The point you have raised is a different area for discussion, which is more similar to receiving stars or ranking.
Suppose I respond to a question and share a solution that I either heard or received as a document from someone else. Now, if the member finds the document or the post useful, they thank me. That doesn't make me smarter than anyone, but it does make me helpful.
I agree that a higher number of appreciations might not be a validation of one's knowledge; however, it only offers us an option to thank. Who thanks you is still a recognition, as it shows who read the post and acknowledged the point.
However, we still request our members to comment on the documents they download or add to the discussion. Adding to the collective understanding will result in why this was implemented in the first place.
Brainstorming on Ranking Systems
Please brainstorm and share a little more on the ranking that you would find meaningful. If we can add it to the Cite Communities Certification, it would be the best validation of one's knowledge.
Please consider my request. Looking forward to hearing more on this and ensuring it serves the purpose better.
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From India, Mumbai
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Appreciations were implemented to thank members for their contributions. Rather than posting a one-line thank you, the appreciation button allows a one-click response and encourages members to post only meaningful content.
The point you have raised is a different area for discussion, which is more similar to receiving stars or ranking.
Suppose I respond to a question and share a solution that I either heard or received as a document from someone else. Now, if the member finds the document or the post useful, they thank me. That doesn't make me smarter than anyone, but it does make me helpful.
I agree that a higher number of appreciations might not be a validation of one's knowledge; however, it only offers us an option to thank. Who thanks you is still a recognition, as it shows who read the post and acknowledged the point.
However, we still request our members to comment on the documents they download or add to the discussion. Adding to the collective understanding will result in why this was implemented in the first place.
Brainstorming on Ranking Systems
Please brainstorm and share a little more on the ranking that you would find meaningful. If we can add it to the Cite Communities Certification, it would be the best validation of one's knowledge.
Please consider my request. Looking forward to hearing more on this and ensuring it serves the purpose better.
Regards
From India, Mumbai
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Appreciation has been the only motivation and achievement an individual receives to enhance or share their knowledge and skills. A member who has knowledge on certain topics or a field will only share his/her views. An individual will share their ideas if they do not possess any knowledge.
In this case, which you have pointed out, I just want to tell you that we have added the appreciation tab so that the knowledge and ideas shared by our fellow members should be valued and recognized.
No member or individual will appreciate any thread or post, nor will they validate it for fun. Only those members who understand and learn from the threads or posts will appreciate and validate them.
We have introduced a Certificate to appreciate and thank our members for the knowledge and contributions they share with other members and us. We are also in the process of collecting suggestions from our fellow members to improve the Certificate so that we can make it more comprehensive.
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From India, Mumbai
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In this case, which you have pointed out, I just want to tell you that we have added the appreciation tab so that the knowledge and ideas shared by our fellow members should be valued and recognized.
No member or individual will appreciate any thread or post, nor will they validate it for fun. Only those members who understand and learn from the threads or posts will appreciate and validate them.
We have introduced a Certificate to appreciate and thank our members for the knowledge and contributions they share with other members and us. We are also in the process of collecting suggestions from our fellow members to improve the Certificate so that we can make it more comprehensive.
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From India, Mumbai
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Thanks, Nabimita Ji & Ankit. Just wanted to add that "Knowledge Certification" must not be based solely on the appreciations received (as the certificate will be printed after 10 appreciations), but rather on the valid contributions of the members. I will definitely suggest ideas to make it more valuable.
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Let me put in my two cents about why the certification still works, even with the amount of general appreciation, and how this can be used by recruiters or others to check on the character quality of the certification they are assessing.
This has become common practice in developed nations that all recruiting is done after a fair bit of online checking. The recruiter checks for:
1. The kind of sites where the person may have accounts.
2. The messages and tone of the posts made on those sites.
3. Whether there is any involvement in any illegal acts.
While in India, hardly anyone thinks about checking online before hiring a Sales Rep, Finance Admin, or HR Recruiter, a lot can be found out about a person if done properly. While Facebook can give you some indications about the person's personality and LinkedIn can provide basic information about the user's profile (which you may already have), there aren't many knowledge-showcasing sites. This is where we want to be—a place where your knowledge is showcased in a conversational medium, not in some thesis or paper that you prepare and correct for weeks.
Understanding the Number of Appreciations
Now, on to the question about the number of appreciations received—firstly, we are going to remove the number from the certificate so that the certificate can be printed more appropriately. Secondly, you will notice that the appreciations are a link that leads to all the posts that were appreciated. We are not building this as a numbers game, where if I have more points than you, then I am better. The task of the recruiter or anyone checking the certification is to gauge the depth of the person by reviewing the kind of posts the person made and the ones which got appreciated.
I hope this will help in understanding the concept better.
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Sid
From India, Gurgaon
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This has become common practice in developed nations that all recruiting is done after a fair bit of online checking. The recruiter checks for:
1. The kind of sites where the person may have accounts.
2. The messages and tone of the posts made on those sites.
3. Whether there is any involvement in any illegal acts.
While in India, hardly anyone thinks about checking online before hiring a Sales Rep, Finance Admin, or HR Recruiter, a lot can be found out about a person if done properly. While Facebook can give you some indications about the person's personality and LinkedIn can provide basic information about the user's profile (which you may already have), there aren't many knowledge-showcasing sites. This is where we want to be—a place where your knowledge is showcased in a conversational medium, not in some thesis or paper that you prepare and correct for weeks.
Understanding the Number of Appreciations
Now, on to the question about the number of appreciations received—firstly, we are going to remove the number from the certificate so that the certificate can be printed more appropriately. Secondly, you will notice that the appreciations are a link that leads to all the posts that were appreciated. We are not building this as a numbers game, where if I have more points than you, then I am better. The task of the recruiter or anyone checking the certification is to gauge the depth of the person by reviewing the kind of posts the person made and the ones which got appreciated.
I hope this will help in understanding the concept better.
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Sid
From India, Gurgaon
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I would like to refer to a link and discussions on the same topic: https://www.citehr.com/438166-apprec...community.html. Please visit once.
Another discussion on the same topic: https://www.citehr.com/438166-apprec...ml#post1983642.
Now, I request CHR to merge/separate both so that we can have all the discussions under "Appreciation at CiteHR" together, which I believe is going to be more effective and expressive.
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Another discussion on the same topic: https://www.citehr.com/438166-apprec...ml#post1983642.
Now, I request CHR to merge/separate both so that we can have all the discussions under "Appreciation at CiteHR" together, which I believe is going to be more effective and expressive.
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I saw the new certificate. I think removing the number of appreciations is a step backwards. There is nothing wrong with showing how many appreciations a person has received. Personally, I am not going to print or use the certificates, but it is nice to see the numbers there; it acts as motivation.
Possibility of Categorizing Appreciations
The original post raised an interesting point. Is there a possibility of putting categories to appreciations? It would be easy to put on the site with a set of bullet or check boxes popping up. However, deciding what categories should be included needs to be thought out.
I think an agree/disagree option may be a good idea, especially since I see so many contradictory statements in the same thread. A new user or someone reviewing a search tends to get confused about which is the right one.
Also, I just realized that all my posts are showing as Bangalore, though I am in Mumbai. I checked my profile page, and the location is shown there as Mumbai. Is there some other area where I need to update? I would appreciate it if someone could tell me how to correct it.
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Possibility of Categorizing Appreciations
The original post raised an interesting point. Is there a possibility of putting categories to appreciations? It would be easy to put on the site with a set of bullet or check boxes popping up. However, deciding what categories should be included needs to be thought out.
I think an agree/disagree option may be a good idea, especially since I see so many contradictory statements in the same thread. A new user or someone reviewing a search tends to get confused about which is the right one.
Also, I just realized that all my posts are showing as Bangalore, though I am in Mumbai. I checked my profile page, and the location is shown there as Mumbai. Is there some other area where I need to update? I would appreciate it if someone could tell me how to correct it.
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From India, Mumbai
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The certificate will be of use to new professionals who want to showcase their talent and ability to be vocal in a community. Having the number on the certificate requires constant updating if someone has printed it - that was the main reason for its removal. The number of appreciations also displays on the homepage in the right column. The certificate will be improved in due course, showing appreciations from seniors separately.
Feedback on Appreciation System
The "Agree / Disagree" is a good idea - I'll try to incorporate something like that soon. The nomenclature of "Appreciation" is perhaps limiting, as is "Agree / Disagree" actually. Perhaps we can just use "Vote Up" / "Vote Down". It'll probably be more general.
Changing Account Location
The account location can be changed from the homepage [when logged in] - start typing in the city name and suggestions will appear in a dropdown - select the one you want. The page will then reload. You can then click on the "Save Current Location" link placed under the "Recent" checkbox to change the location of your account and all the posts.
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Sid
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Feedback on Appreciation System
The "Agree / Disagree" is a good idea - I'll try to incorporate something like that soon. The nomenclature of "Appreciation" is perhaps limiting, as is "Agree / Disagree" actually. Perhaps we can just use "Vote Up" / "Vote Down". It'll probably be more general.
Changing Account Location
The account location can be changed from the homepage [when logged in] - start typing in the city name and suggestions will appear in a dropdown - select the one you want. The page will then reload. You can then click on the "Save Current Location" link placed under the "Recent" checkbox to change the location of your account and all the posts.
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Sid
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The thread on Appreciation is very interesting, and it is intriguing to note that both for and against selective Appreciation have drawn Appreciation from the members. So there is Appreciation from all quarters one way or another!
Going back to the start of the thread, it is to distinguish Appreciation received for Knowledge from Appreciation received for Fun. I am glad that Knowledge stands out by itself.
Coming to fun, can we be so curt as to limit fun as something without knowledge? (A humorous post packs in it more matter than what is apparent.) During my last 6 active months, ignoring the previous inactive months from March 2011 to July 2012, I found people readily appreciate the humorous ones. While my postings on Learning from Shakespeare drew some Appreciation on an even pattern, the single slide featuring Bernard Shaw's humor had a staggering 1700+ downloads. We may take a stand that Humor and Fun are different, and that, according to me, would be cutting it too fine.
One more message is around. I may even make an overstatement that ready wit, fun, and humor appeal better, as they ease your tension momentarily. Does not the author deserve an Appreciation?
Well, if still both have to be differentiated, perhaps there can be two buttons:
- APPRECIATION FOR KNOWLEDGE
- APPRECIATION FOR FUN
Coming to the numbers display. At the end of the day, the numbers do count. It is a comparative index. As long as a posting wins an Appreciation, it becomes an instant recognition. Retaining it on the certificate is an added advantage. Otherwise, a person has to take another screenshot from some other frame.
So how do we judge the postings? Conventional wisdom says Consider Quantity and Quality together. In the certificate, with the Appreciation being taken away, only Quantity remains. Is it not incomplete?
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V. Raghunathan, Navi Mumbai
P.S. Incidentally, the total Appreciation received by me has touched 400 today, out of 804 postings. I thank all the Cite HR members who made this possible.
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Going back to the start of the thread, it is to distinguish Appreciation received for Knowledge from Appreciation received for Fun. I am glad that Knowledge stands out by itself.
Coming to fun, can we be so curt as to limit fun as something without knowledge? (A humorous post packs in it more matter than what is apparent.) During my last 6 active months, ignoring the previous inactive months from March 2011 to July 2012, I found people readily appreciate the humorous ones. While my postings on Learning from Shakespeare drew some Appreciation on an even pattern, the single slide featuring Bernard Shaw's humor had a staggering 1700+ downloads. We may take a stand that Humor and Fun are different, and that, according to me, would be cutting it too fine.
One more message is around. I may even make an overstatement that ready wit, fun, and humor appeal better, as they ease your tension momentarily. Does not the author deserve an Appreciation?
Well, if still both have to be differentiated, perhaps there can be two buttons:
- APPRECIATION FOR KNOWLEDGE
- APPRECIATION FOR FUN
Coming to the numbers display. At the end of the day, the numbers do count. It is a comparative index. As long as a posting wins an Appreciation, it becomes an instant recognition. Retaining it on the certificate is an added advantage. Otherwise, a person has to take another screenshot from some other frame.
So how do we judge the postings? Conventional wisdom says Consider Quantity and Quality together. In the certificate, with the Appreciation being taken away, only Quantity remains. Is it not incomplete?
Regards,
V. Raghunathan, Navi Mumbai
P.S. Incidentally, the total Appreciation received by me has touched 400 today, out of 804 postings. I thank all the Cite HR members who made this possible.
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I believe that appreciation and validation should be kept separate. Appreciation can be divided into two categories: one for knowledge appreciation and the other for general appreciation (such as linking the discussion to the original topic, for fun, for raising the right query, etc.). Validation from experienced and senior members of CiteHR can be displayed separately.
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In continuation of the above discussion, I believe that a member appreciates when he/she downloads the attachment or finds the answer given by another member helpful. Personally, I often refer to CiteHR when I need suggestions or guidance. When searching, if I come across an attachment that is suitable for me or an answer that provides guidance, I immediately express my appreciation by thanking the member for their help without any hassle.
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Sima
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Sima
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