Dinesh Divekar
Business Mentor, Consultant And Trainer
Tsk.raman
Consuting - Life Coaching
Rramxx
Tqm Consultant
Tajsateesh
Recruitment/talent Acquisition, Career Counselling
NK SUNDARAM
Soft Skill Trainer / Hr Consultant - India
B K BHATIA
Director Of Company
+4 Others

I have an experiance of around 3 years in sales and i have done mba in hr an mktg. Now i want to change my carreer from sales to HR will i get a chance to do it...
Preet,
I really appreciates your such career move..!
you have not experience in HR domain so find some relevant executive level HR job in any FMCG, selling industry as you have good experience in marketing field than you can work parallel in same company. and one more, you can understand the basic needs/expectations of marketing persons easily and you can also train them effectively.
Else- you just need to get knowledge of HR domain which you can learn from your superior.
wish you all the best ---go ahead
Preet,
Good decision. Please go ahead. For any field, the passion to learn new thing is most important. If you have passion to be a HR person, this is the right time to change career.
All the best.
Regards,
P K Sudarsan
Senior Executive HR

Dear Preet,
Opinions of Rakesh and Sudarshan apart, I do not approve of your decision of change of field. After three years in sales if you enter into HR then you are putting clock back by three years. In the long run this regressive step may prove counter productive. I say so because you should encash on your MBA (Marketing) and not sideline it.
Thoughts of this kind occur to you because I doubt whether you have done proper career plan or SWOT Analysis of your career. Your every move should be part of your long range career plan.
From sales, why you do not wish to enter into hardcore marketing job? In marketing there are various sub-disciplines like channel sales, market research, advertising etc. Why you do not wish to explore that possibility?
Just yesterday, I have given careers advices in two posts. Click the following links to refer them:
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All the best!
Dinesh V Divekar
Preet, suggest read the spellings of the words 'experience' and 'career' in your query above. One has to be focused on these small things in life while looking for a change. These are the issues related not only to 'communication skills' but also to 'perfection' & 'quality', the aspects generally looked into by organizations while searching for suitable candidates.
You may like to use this advice to your benefit.
I do not sit and do value judgement whether your decision is good or bad. You are the best judge. However having spent three years in marketing, do not take any decison with regard to change of career in a moment of emotion or frustration or self doubt or on the basis of any incident since as other learned members said it is difficult to put the clock back .Sit relaxed and review the issue and define the reasons/problems for switch over and list out options within the existing marketing career branching out into branding etc and do SWOT analysis and then take a call.
B.Saikumar
HR & Labour law Advisor

Hello Preet,
Other members have given their valued suggestions & advice, based on their experience & participating in CiteHR discussions.
Having said that, @ the EoD, it's YOUR career & life--anyone & everyone can advise/suggest. But it's YOU who needs to take the final decision/plunge.
If you want this Forum to suggest WAYS of shifting to HR--meaning to say "I have decided & tell me HOW to do it'--then you already have some suggestions given.
If you want advice on IF it's advisable to shift to HR, then you again have some suggestions already given above.
However, CAN YOU pl mention YOUR reason(s) for this thought to come-up in the First place? A lot would depend on WHY you want to shift. This is what Dinesh & Saikumar meant by the SWOT analysis.
The HOW part would come later. Unless the members know your reasons, any suggestion(s) would be inaccurate & off-the-mark to a large extent.
All the Best.
Rgds,
TS
Good decision. Welcome on board ! I was a Secretary; did a Diploma in Russian Language way back in 1978 but then there was an opportunity to help our HR department, on and off. I grabbed the opportunity, did my PG Diploma in HR (those days MBAs were very rare...) I worked for over 20 years in HR and retired as Head & Sr DGM - HR....
If you have the desire, passion, you can excel in any feel. You should have this feeling for helping others and each every employee is your internal customer. Please keep this in mind, while playing HR role.
Best wishes
Dear Preet,

Sadly but true like several queries, there isn't enough data to provide you the right in-puts. Whatever that has been said so far, or whatever I would say will be based on assumptions, right or wrong, who knows. You have a target and aim for it you might hit the bull's eye, or least will get a reality check as to where you are. The other way around is to shoot anywhere and then go and draw the target, you can claim to have hit the bull's eye.

In this case, I must honestly confess I do not know where I stand vis-a-vis the target, however, would like to take the chance. I will ensure that I'll try opening out your mind more than either endorse or oppose your plan.

1. I would want to ask is you intent to move our of Sales and your Motivation to move to HR? I mean is it a job or true calling?

2. Are you being assured a job/career in HR that you want to slide, becauase a typical HR job, as you know involves knowing, the importance of dealing with all types of people and personalities?

As a new graduate enters the work arena he/she is exposed to many career choices. Carefully choosing a career will help to stay motivated and remain a star performer throughout one’s career.

Transition is an on-going process in everyone’s life that takes place at different stages. In practice it begins from the final years of school to the early years of higher education, occupational training, independent living or social opportunities. Also it can be from the final years of college/campus to the early years of one’s career.

Transition from one field to another to redeem or enhance your career after garnering a few years of experience, needs more attention as it involves a lot of planning.

Planning for transition should take account of the personal goals and ambitions. The objective of the planning must ensure that you possess the necessary skills to enable the person to cope up with the new area, the corporate culture and business climate. Be absolutely sure that the transition period will be very challenging, stressful and difficult, hence, proper planning helps in reducing anxieties and will facilitate you adapt to the new environment successfully.

For you to start working in HR in an organization is a unique and critically important phase that requires a special perspective and strategy to be successful. Research suggests that the success of the transition period will have a major impact on aspects like salary, advancement, job satisfaction, and ability to have cordial relationships within the organization as well as on one’s own feelings of success, accountability and commitment to the job. And, the impact will last for many years and not just for the first few years. Preparing oneself to bridge the gap smoothly, between the experience garnered and the expertise the change, will demand, a lot of effort.

Possessing better soft skills, the required technical skills, effective communication skills will help you face the new challenges with courage and confidence, provided you know the subject well. Making a first impression as an effective contributor will make the process of transition easier. Mannerism, behavior, the way one dresses up, the way one carries himself are some of the personality traits that set the tone for future success on the part of the employer.

In today’s competitive market these factors are very necessary to succeed on the job. It also helps in building strong employability and engagement skills that are a necessary attribute to be successful in the chosen occupation and aids in developing one’s individuality.

Best wishes.
Adding to what I have already mentioned above, you have to fully equip and prepare yourself for the changeover. It is not too easy and be prepared mentally to face the migration. It is not all too easy. It is possible, you may face more challenges, discouraging comments, and insurmountable opposition. Be prepared to face them and get over them.
As some of our professional colleagues have pointed above, there are some glaring spelling mistakes in your postings. While technical people can be excused, not the HR professionals. Occasional typos can be ignored or excused but repetition of such mistakes will be glaringly visible. Please work on this area, if you want to change over to HR !
Best wishes
Dear Preet,
With much dismay, I have noted that you have not acknowledged the replies of the seniors even after 48 hours also. Some of them are double of your age!
Mr Raman must have spend at least 45 minutes in typing his long reply for you. If you have some gumption, the least thing you can do is to acknowledge the efforts that seniors have put for you.
Gratuitousness is a virtue. Without this you may grow but then you are doomed to fall that is for sure.
Dinesh V Divekar
Mr. Divekar,
I find that many persons just shoot in the dark for the heck of it. They ask a one-liner question and then sit back to watch all the grey hairs trying to sort out the riddle!
Sometimes I wonder whether it is worth the while to really try to help the guys / gals.
This subject attracted me (though I am past the age for looking for any job) and I wanted to learn about the various view-points on offer; but alas the questioner does not seem to be interested.
R Ramamurthy
Dear Preet,

What two seniors Mr. Dinesh V Divekar and Mr. R Ramamurthy, have said here prompts me to this posting. A thought I felt I should share here to revive what I feel is an "art" that is being overlooked more often these days. It would really be worth looking into.



Reciprocation


According to sociologists and anthropologists, one of the most widespread and basic norms of human culture is embodied in the rule for reciprocation. The rule requires that one person try to repay, in any form not necessarily in kind, what another person has provided.

By obligating the recipient of an act to repayment in the future, the rule for reciprocation allows one individual to give something to another with confidence that it is not being lost. This sense of future obligation within the rule makes possible the development of various kinds of continuing relationships, transactions, and exchanges that are beneficial to the society. Consequently, all members of the society are trained from childhood to abide by the rule or suffer serious social disapproval.

The decision to comply with another's request is frequently influenced by the reciprocity rule. One favorite and profitable tactic of certain compliance professionals is to give something before asking for a return favor.

The exploitability of this tactic is due to three characteristics of the rule for reciprocation.

First, the rule is extremely powerful, often overwhelming the influence of other factors that normally determine compliance with a request.

Second, the rule applies even to uninvited first favors, thereby reducing our ability to decide whom we wish to owe and putting the choice in the hands of others.

Finally, the rule can spur unequal exchanges; to be rid of the uncomfortable feeling of indebtedness, an individual will often agree to a request for a substantially larger favor than the one he or she received.

Another way that the rule for reciprocity can increase compliance involves a simple variation on the basic theme: Instead of providing a first favor that stimulates a return favor, an individual can make an initial concession that stimulates a return concession.

One compliance procedure, called the rejection then- retreat technique, or door-in-the-face technique, relies heavily on the pressure to reciprocate concessions. By starting with an extreme request that is sure to be rejected, a requester can then profitably retreat to a smaller request (the one that was desired all along), which is likely to be accepted because it appears to be a concession. Research indicates that, aside from increasing the likelihood that a person will say yes to a request, the rejection-then-retreat technique also increases the likelihood that the person will carry out the request and will agree to such requests in the future.

Our best defense against the use of reciprocity pressures to gain our compliance is not systematic rejection of the initial offers of others. Rather, we should accept initial favors or concessions in good faith, but be ready to redefine them as tricks should they later be proved as such. Once they are redefined in this way, we will no longer feel a need to respond with a favor or concession of our own.
Dear Sir, Why not. If opportunity comes, you can shift your career and acquire knowledge to run the show as HR Manager. D.Gurumurthy HR&IR Consultant Hyderabad.
Hello Dinesh/R Ramamurthy/TSK. Raman,
Looks like everyone is speaking to a WALL.
A classic example of 2 Sanskrit phrases I recently used in another thread: 'Paatra / Apaatra daan'.
Why don't we better utilize our time for another more needy individual--who VALUES OTHERS' TIME?
Rgds,
TS
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