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Vaishalee Parkhi
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Autumn Jane
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Thread Started by #ALI ASGHER

Dear Seniors,
I have done MBA-HR. doing a job in HR Department but in fact its a Time-office. so that i am not satisfied with my job. and waiting for a good opportunity. i always to show my Boss that i am completely satisfied but in fact not.
its also not a learning environment. so please guide me have any tactics for internal satisfaction for this job.

18th February 2013 From Pakistan, Lahore
Anywhere you can find out similar kind of situations Organizations will give the self learning process.
search for better one if you get the better one then you can skip and "if you find same culture there also " then what is your next step ? are you going to move from there also or else can adjust there? if you to go adjust there why can not you adjust here?
18th February 2013 From India, Hyderabad
You are doing yourself, your boss and your current company a disfavour by pretending to be completely satisfied and waiting to jump ship. If your boss are not aware of your sentiments, how do you expect he or she to "change for the better"? Put yourself in your boss shoe. If everyday your boss tells you that he is very satisfied with your job performance but out of the blue, tells you that you are fired because you have not achieved your KPIs. How does that feel?
Since you are in charge of HR and Training & Development comes under you, why not be proactive about it. Do your planning and sell it to the boss.
Just takes two to tango...
Autumn Jane
18th February 2013 From Singapore, Singapore
Dear Ali, the word SATISFACTION relates to FULFILLMENT of ones NEEDS, which is a PSYCHOLOGICAL issue. If you think you are not SATISFIED with your current job then don't hurry to quit the job. Before getting any better OPPORTUNITY If there any scope then try the followings -
1) Review your current job DESCRIPTION with DUTIES and RESPONSIBILITIES.
2) Then measure your PERFORMANCE.
3) Point out your STRENGTH and WEAKNESS.
4) Try to MINIMIZE your weakness by PARTICIPATING various TRAINING.
18th February 2013 From Bangladesh
'Know yourself well' and examine 'where you stand' in terms of your capabilities to learn. 'Learning' is not something to be served in a plate; you have to acquire it through personal effort.
Any job, including the one in 'time office' offers plenty opportunities to learn. For example, have you ever tried to analyse how efficient management of time office (i) impacts on the 'employee costs' (ii) how does it contribute to the 'work culture' of the organization (iii) how can technology improve time office management (iv) how to integrate shift planning with time office management? Well, there are many other areas which can improve through efficient time management. These all are the aspects of self learning. If you are exposed to 'Google search', are not shy of reading information on the web & you have the will to learn, nothing can stop you from gaining more knowledge and becoming an expert in 'time office management'. Try, if convinced!
18th February 2013 From India, Delhi
Dear Ali,

To add to what other colleagues have proposed, I wish to add the following:-

1. Consider your present position as an opportunity and make sure you do 100% justice to your job responsibilities and add innovative concepts to show case your initiatives and achievement.

2. Understand the essence of HR and develop a thorough knowledge of various rules, regulations and statutory compliances to be fulfilled.

3. Develop good relationship with higher levels of HR Personnel and offer to take up some additional responsibilities to demonstrate your intent.

4. Be positive and prepare a Plan of where you would like to be at the end of each year. Treat everyday as an opportunity and after breaking up your larger objectives into smaller ones achieve them one by one in a systematic progressive time bound manner. as is rightly said "Plan your work and Work your Plan"

5. John F. Kennedy had said " Ask not what the country has done for you, Ask what you are doing for your Country"

6. Common sense is one of the best attributes. Use it to find solutions

7. Develop a good English language written & spoken communication skill. This would be essential as you climb the career ladder.

My very best wishes to you for a satisfying and rewarding career.

r. s. patwardhan
18th February 2013 From India, Mumbai
Hello Ali,
I agree with our Senior's comments. Please do not feel it's a low profile job for you. May be, this is a starting point you can prove and hold much more larger responsibilities in future.
I would suggest, try to find how efficiently you can develop time office systems, if leave management is also associated with this responsibility try your level best to discipline and direct employees about leave rules and proper recording. If you prove yourself in one of the functions, management will trust you and you can then demand for more HR tasks.
Best wishes !
With regards,
Vaishalee Parkhi
18th February 2013 From India, Pune
First of all stop feigning satisfaction. How will your boss even know that you are not satisfied with the job.
Second, seek an appointment with the boss for for a detailed discussions on what you can do for the organisation. In the meeting tell your boss nicely but clearly what you expect from the job. Also tell him what you can do in addition to your present job. Remember, these additional jobs that you offer to do should be relevant to the organisation\'s objectives and also that your offer should be for doing something in addition to, not in place of your present job.
18th February 2013 From India, Kolkata
You can further take initiatives in covering ESI for all employees, ESI challan remittance, Half yearly Return submission, PF coverage of all employees, monthly challan remittances, monthly/annual returns submission
Welfare activities, Administration, Public Relation, Inspector of Factories - related correspondence, Pollution Control Board - related correspondence, Labour Office and Contract Labour related activities, Minimum Wages, VDA Calculation, Maternity Benefits, Training Co-ordination, 5s in Shop Floor, QCC Teams, Suggestion Schemes
Like so many activities you can involve and improve your knowledge.
S B Ramesh
18th February 2013 From India, Madras
Dear Ali,
There is so much you can do in that outfit so do not throw in the towel yet.
No matter what the core business of that Organisation is, its human resources need to be trained and re-trained, remember? Just do a training needs analysis, then get them trained!
So look around, see what people are doing as opposed to what exactly they are supposed to be doing as per their job descriptions, thrash out the gaps and fill them, bearing in mind the Organisations's goals.
You will be better off doing a BUSINESS CASE first, presenting to Management and if approved you roll out your questionnaire for the skills gap analysis. As for how to plan, execute and evaluate the training, we are here......when you get there our tit-bits will flow. Please let us know how you are getting on. All the best!
Lina Sappor-Accra
18th February 2013 From Ghana, Accra
Dear Ali,
You need to do this short self assessment:
1. Why are you not satisfied with your job?
2. What were your expectations before you joined the Company?
3. What are you actually doing now in your Department?
4. What else are you currently doing which you did not expect to do?
5. Why are you not able to discuss the problem with your boss?
6 Will your boss not be happy with you after discussing the problem with him/her?
7. Which of the HR Theories you learnt at the MBA can help you in your current situation?
Try to answer all the questions posed above and things will work better for you.
18th February 2013 From Ghana
Dear Ali,

You says you are not satisfied, there is no learning environment, You are just posing as you are satisfied, so trust me, the answer is like that:

1. In 99.9% companies and specially in HR people feels same unless they accept the realities of true world and that's, HR means just an Administration/Salary/Time Office/Typing & Drafting couple of letters, at least when you are at lower levels. So there is nothing wrong with your Job as you have opted for this field and no one had forced you. If there was any mistake that was due to your lack of information about the Job Profile of HR.

2. Lack of learning Environment: No I disagree from you,learning is an auto process and any one can learn if he wish to, there are lot of things you can learn, you can make yourself expert in ESI/PF rules and regulations, You can learn about the Labor laws and latest developments in this field, you can learn in new type of incentives and staff promotions developments, you can learn about various type of training's given to employees in various Industries to improve the productivity at different levels, there is no dearth of learning and you have to do all this at your initiative and try to convince your seniors to let you implements those ideas in your Company. By doing so you will feel better job satisfaction. So don't think Company will teach you any thing as they have appointed you by assuming that you know every thing in your field and you will fully take care of their needs.

3. You say you are posing like a satisfied person. I feel you have achieved some thing at least as just loosing patience over trivial matters and that too without knowing your own weakness and shortcomings is of no use, a person feels unsatisfied when he is unfit in that situation and dear it takes time to adjust in any specific environment. The biggest reason for feeling unsatisfied is you are fresh from college with having lots of information and knowledge of various HR theories and conditions written in those books and most of them by the people from abroad or from the Companies which are too big and have totally different atmosphere. One thing is sure you can't implement most of those theories in our small medium companies.

So Dear just consider following:

1.If you are satisfied with the salary and perks.

2.Your Boss is satisfied with your performance.

If answer to both of these questions are Yes.Rest sure with passage of time and effort you will find lots of things to learn and experiment and am sure after some time you wont have to pose any thing as really you will be satisfied with your Job etc.

With best wishes.
18th February 2013 From India, Delhi
I can understand your feeling, i suggest u that first of all you just go to your boss and tell him about your job responsibility. You brief him and asked some more task related to HR Department.
Ravi Sharma
19th February 2013 From India, Gurgaon
all the above points shared by the esteemed members are applicable in your case. in any case , please see that you are taking efforts to improve you vocabulary and garmmar skills. all the best.
19th February 2013 From India, Kochi
Dear all my respectable seniors,
i hope so you all be OK. thanks a lot for motivate me. i read all of your comments. you are absolutely correct . yes i have done my master recently so that's why i have a found a blunder of difference between HR Bookish knowledge and ground reality in a professional life.
you are right dear i should have to take this an opportunity as my first initial step of career. and may Allah Almighty give me chance to overcome my stress in such situation in future.
this quote is very motivated for me that 99.9% companies perceive HR as Administration/Salary/Time office/ etc.
once again thanks to give me importance!!!
Allah Bless all of you.
23rd February 2013 From Pakistan, Lahore
Dear Ali,
I would suggest you that you discuss with your boss about this and tell him that you would like to work in other areas of HR .Only time office functions wont hlep you to learn at this crucial learning/training stage in your career.Pls tell him that in addition to time office he give you an opportunity to work in other areas of HR as well.
If he does not agree to it then the last resort would be to change the job.
23rd February 2013 From India, Mumbai
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