Tajsateesh
Recruitment/talent Acquisition, Career Counselling
Raj Kumar Hansdah
Shrm, Od, Hrd, Pms
Ankitchaturvedi
Manager - Hr Excellence
Anuranjan
Hr-recruitment
Purushotam SK
Lead - Vendor Management Team
Kbagwe
Admin/hr
Monu@C2W
Operations Head - Recruirment
+2 Others

Thread Started by #Anuranjan

Dear All,
I am working in Bangalore, with one of the reputed HR consultancy,
We have provided manpower recruitment services to one of the leading General insurance company, who claimed to be no.1 in their segment, they have bank as well with the same brand name,
As per agreed term they have to pay us the service fee within 45 days from the date of joining, candidates have joined in month of July 2010 , till date we have not received our payment, initially when we were doing follow-up with HR they were giving excuses like, payment will be done in 7 days, by end of the week , by end of the month and so on, since 1 month they have started ignoring our phone call , by disconnecting, not replying to mail.
Need all your suggestion how to handle this, and what action we should take for non-payment and the harassment.
Reply awaited !!
Thanks
Anuranjan
16th January 2011 From India, Bangalore
Dear Mr.Anuranjan, Go ahead and meet the concern person directly and speak. If that does not works out, you can very well raise an e-mail to his/her superiors in that concern. Thanks, Miracle CEO
16th January 2011 From India, Madras
Hello Anuranjan,
Assuming your client is in a position to pay [meaning NOT having any Financial problems], the candidate you placed is still on their rolls [meaning he/she hasn't quit] & your Agreement is is what you say it is, I think such people/companies need to be exposed--in public domain. I am not sure of others' responses--suggest pl wait for others to respond.
Let us HR professionals learn from what's happening all around us--so many scams wouldn't have seen the light of the day since the past few months if the Media didn't bring the issues/scams to the fore into public domain. I have observed that there are quite a few people/companies who admit/act ONLY when things come out into the open. For such people/companies, going the legal way may not be the right way.
But suggest wait for other responses.
Rgds,
TS
16th January 2011 From India, Hyderabad
Hi Anuranjan
It is sad when companies behave like this and it reflects badly on their brand image
I have seen that if a Company decides that they don't want to pay you there is nothing that you can do about it.
The decision not to pay must have come from the concerned authority only, as violation of a contract is a risk
Additionally, the company might have calculated that your consultancy cannot afford the time to go to court to enforce the contract
I am not saying that you should give up. You should definitely communicate with the concerned senior and even go up to the CEO/MD if you need to
Just be prepared that you are in a long and complicated situation and that you might not see that money
17th January 2011 From India, Gurgaon
Thanks a lot for the suggestion, I am waiting for more reply,
I would like to add here, When I spoke to the HR today , She started reacting by telling like you are not only in the market, and she don't want to communicate with me any more , I am stunned.
Please suggest, I really want to take it seriously ,
Thanks
Anuranjan
17th January 2011 From India, Bangalore
Dear Anuranja,
You should name such firm/company so that other recruitment agencies in the market may aware of such kind of organisation.
Anuranjan if they are behaving like such (like you mentioned in your second post here) you should take some stern action against them. I would suggest you to remind them terms & conditions of your services and if not nothing help you then take a legal action if they not paying or rescinding your services in future.
thanks & regards,
Krishna Sati
17th January 2011 From India, Delhi
Hello Anuranjan,
Suggest escalate the issue with the Head of HR & then the CEO [IN WRITING--from now on, do all interaction in writing; even if you have to speak over phone, follow it up with a mail summarizing in writing what you spoke over phone]--don't give them a chance to later say that 'we didn't know you had this problem'. Quite a few guys in senior levels do it--failing to see that such a situation wouldn't have come-about in the first place if their own processes/procedures are correctly placed/implemented.
Also pl be prepared for any kind of backlash from the company--this is where all communication proofs will come handy.
Wait for some more Forum members suggestions before taking the step.
Also there's one more way to look @ the issue. Is the amount due very high? If it's not, is it worth all this effort--basically do a cost-benefit thinking.
Rgds,
TS
18th January 2011 From India, Hyderabad
Dear Anuranjan
You have my sympathies.
I also feel concerned about the fate of the candidate, whom you have placed.
It is ironic to find that while recruiting a candidate; a company will have lots of specification and rigorous requirements about the candidate including things like background verification, reference checks, salary verification etc.
However, once a candidate has joined; they themselves begin indulging in such un-ethical practices.
Is it not like a thief trying to hire honest side-kicks to help in his thefts and other un-lawful activities ??
I hope other consultants too, share their experiences about such unscrupulous companies.
Warm regards.
18th January 2011 From India, Delhi
Dear Anuranjan
I appreciate the suggestions and help given by my fellow members and friends....
As the said, you can directly talk to the MD / Chairman of the company stating the problems and issues faced by you from their HR department.
I would also suggest that you stop recruiting for them...eve if they release your payment and come back to you with new mandates i suugest you that you do not entertain them....let them repent on what they have done....
Also you can pass on the message to the other consultants in your city who work in your domain (field) to not to recruit for them because of this malpractice...i believe that this not the best practice but you no other alternative....
18th January 2011 From India, Mumbai
Hi Friends,
Do we have a shared forum or site ect.... where we can find names and details of such Clients / Firm / Company so that other recruitment agencies in the market may aware of such kind of organisation.
This would help each/either of us to avoid such situation.
Thanks
6th October 2013 From India, Visakhapatnam
We also have the same experience with our client "Havmore Insurance Brokers" in Mumbai. We have placed the candidate Prashant Tambe with them with lot of efforts on senior position in corporate strategy. They have taken the interview, given offer letter to the candidate. when we have asked them for his payment details the next day they have forwarded one email from the candidate which was showing that he was not interested for job. (please note that the candidate have not informed us but informed the company HR by mail). we also thought that he must be not interested and the candidate was not picking the phone also. After a time span we have checked the social websites like linkedin and other job sites he have updated his profile and it was surprised for us that he had mentioned the same month and year for which he have accepted offer letter from the company. We have tried to speak to the HR- Ms Pradnya from Havmore she had given some different answers then told that the candidate was informed by Mr Manek (working on senior position with them) through his references. After several follow ups she have denied that the candidate is not introduced by us anytime. We have tried to speak to the senior - MD - Mr Hamang for the same. He have taken a long time to come back to us, after so many mails, calls he finally said that his department is not doing any wrong but the candidate have joined after three months when he had taken offer letter so not considering us for his introduction. The company is doing malpractices in terms of not just HR but other also. So consultants beware from this company. i had given very good candidates to them but now i feel that there must many more candidates i must placed to them and they have not informed me. They dont have proper HR set up but do this kind of cheating with the cosultants who put their lot of efforts for giving good candidates.
25th March 2014 From India, Thana
Hello All,
This is a very serious concern with consultants like us. We have come across couple of unprofessional employers who refuses to pay on time, or even bother pay for that matter. What they don't understand is the time and effort of recruiters and the support that we provided most importantly "when they really wanted the support"
A public forum is a great thought, and I can work on that as well, at least in the region where we service.
My question is, is there any legal constrains on publicly naming or mentioning these Companies? Getting into trouble for this is the last thing that I want at the moment :)
Regards,
Monu
18th February 2016 From India, Ernakulam
""My question is, is there any legal constrains on publicly naming or mentioning these Companies? Getting into trouble for this is the last thing that I want at the moment :) ""
If your facts are true,then you can easily defend your position.
Clearly bring out how the company is avoiding making due payments as agreed upon during consultancy process.
Lack of ethics needs to be highlighted in legal and correct terms.
Company may threaten legal actions and other types of pressure by approaching other competitors in same line etc.
Be ready for defending your position but you should not hesitate naming companies after all efforts to sort out the matter is done.
But ensure that your side is clear and there are no skeletons in your cupboard.
18th February 2016 From India, Pune
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