I've been told that you really don't need a degree specializing in HR to get into HRM... Is this really true?
Oh yeah, another thing... What kind of personal characteristics/attributes do you need to possess to be an HR Analyst?
I know my questions may sound a little juvenile, but I was hoping some of you HR experts could advise me here :)
From Canada, Windsor
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Oh yeah, another thing... What kind of personal characteristics/attributes do you need to possess to be an HR Analyst?
I know my questions may sound a little juvenile, but I was hoping some of you HR experts could advise me here :)
From Canada, Windsor
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Traditionally, this was the belief, and I would like to disagree with that. HR needs specialized skills, knowledge, and abilities. In the last decade, there has been a tremendous change in HR. The function has evolved from pure administrative to strategic. Companies are realizing the potential of "intangible assets" (people) and the dividends they bring. Companies are recognizing the value HR injects and the need to have skilled HR professionals who can attract, manage, retain, and develop talents in organizations.
Regarding personal attributes, I would have to say, the ability to relate to people genuinely and the ability to be objective in decision-making without losing focus on your empathy skills and organizational goals are key. The most important attribute would be knowledge of HR and other organizational functions.
Hope this helps
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4Regarding personal attributes, I would have to say, the ability to relate to people genuinely and the ability to be objective in decision-making without losing focus on your empathy skills and organizational goals are key. The most important attribute would be knowledge of HR and other organizational functions.
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If what you say is true, tell me, will I get a job in HR after completing my BMS and having no experience for about 2-3 years, and then take a break to pursue my MBA? I am really confused about this. Some friends advise me to take the CAT exam this year, pursue an MBA, and then seek a job. On the other hand, people who are already working suggest that I should gain work experience first and then pursue an MBA. However, some say that I might lose touch with studies. Please guide me on this dilemma.
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Hi all,
We can go on debating whether or not to have work experience first & then study MBA or vice -versa.
Coming to the point i would like to share this article on Rethinking MBA education by Lalit Kumar.
Happy Reading..
Cheerio
Rajat Joshi
Rethinking MBA education system (by Lalit kumarPGP, IIM Kozhikode) www.indiainfoline.com
The existing MBA curriculum tends to compartmentalize learning into distinct divisions like marketing, finance, HR, operations or strategy, which is antagonistic to real life business situations. Real life business problems don’t appear in such distinct categories but appear as interplay of various disciplines having implications cutting across these functions. Moreover, the current system of bifurcation of management courses into trimester/semester give the students a piecemeal picture of the whole management practices and they fail to see the linkages among various courses taught. Thus it never crosses in an average student’s mind that pricing methodology learnt in marketing management can be linked to microeconomics to determine appropriate mark-up price or productivity improvement measures learnt in operations management can be linked to organization structure learnt in organization behavior or business strategy learnt in strategic management. The ‘big picture’ or the macro view gets lost somewhere in the mélange of so many functional silos and student fails to develop a holistic view.
This shortcoming can be taken care of by having one year MBA structured as intermix of basic courses in finance, marketing, systems, operations, HR & OB.
The whole course should be structured as one continuous year of learning rather than broken into semester/trimester, which is a piecemeal approach and takes away the continuity in learning. The cases discussed should involve synthesis of ideas and concepts from all the above mentioned disciplines which can give students a feel for integrative thinking.
I reiterate MBA should be only one year course as this makes the learning more effective (fast paced environment spurs on students to perform) and also is a better value proposition for people who have left jobs to pursue academics. The students admitted must be high achievers (to be able to cope up with the work load) having minimum 3 yrs of work experience (the rationale being one doesn’t get to do anything concrete in first 1 or 2 yrs in an organization) so as to be able to relate the theoretical perspectives with experiential learning.
MBA is an ‘action’ course rather than a passive one. You can’t teach a person to swim by imparting him wisdom in the classroom. But if the person has gotten himself wet a few times in the swimming pool and splayed his legs and hands, he will be able to relate and understand the swimming methods taught. Similarly a person with no work experience can’t appreciate the theoretical underpinnings of the practical business situations, simply because he hasn’t ‘tasted the water’.(very true!!..)
The objective of MBA should be to impart intellectual versatility and rigor in thinking to the students rather than making a person specialist in one area (which he can always pick up later on in his career, depending on his interests and realistic judgment of his capability). The specialization system should be done away with, as leaders need to be ‘generalists’ with understanding of all aspects of business. Also it is difficult to pack specialization, which anyway doesn’t make much sense, in one year course.
Moreover, the curriculum should be peppered with readings in sociology, philosophy, economics and other humanities to provide depth in understanding and ability to think through a situation from different perspectives. Adequate stress must be laid on the personal development of the individual and to hone his soft skills like communication, leadership and negotiation skills by role plays, presentations, etc. The course should stress on moving from analysis to action; MBA, in fact, should become a byword for Managing Business Actions.
Such curriculum demands intellectual vigor and continuous peak effort on the part of the students to undergo this kind of fast paced learning. The moot question is - are Indian students ready to take the plunge? The answer seems to be yes as is proven by the success of ISB.
From India, Pune
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We can go on debating whether or not to have work experience first & then study MBA or vice -versa.
Coming to the point i would like to share this article on Rethinking MBA education by Lalit Kumar.
Happy Reading..
Cheerio
Rajat Joshi
Rethinking MBA education system (by Lalit kumarPGP, IIM Kozhikode) www.indiainfoline.com
The existing MBA curriculum tends to compartmentalize learning into distinct divisions like marketing, finance, HR, operations or strategy, which is antagonistic to real life business situations. Real life business problems don’t appear in such distinct categories but appear as interplay of various disciplines having implications cutting across these functions. Moreover, the current system of bifurcation of management courses into trimester/semester give the students a piecemeal picture of the whole management practices and they fail to see the linkages among various courses taught. Thus it never crosses in an average student’s mind that pricing methodology learnt in marketing management can be linked to microeconomics to determine appropriate mark-up price or productivity improvement measures learnt in operations management can be linked to organization structure learnt in organization behavior or business strategy learnt in strategic management. The ‘big picture’ or the macro view gets lost somewhere in the mélange of so many functional silos and student fails to develop a holistic view.
This shortcoming can be taken care of by having one year MBA structured as intermix of basic courses in finance, marketing, systems, operations, HR & OB.
The whole course should be structured as one continuous year of learning rather than broken into semester/trimester, which is a piecemeal approach and takes away the continuity in learning. The cases discussed should involve synthesis of ideas and concepts from all the above mentioned disciplines which can give students a feel for integrative thinking.
I reiterate MBA should be only one year course as this makes the learning more effective (fast paced environment spurs on students to perform) and also is a better value proposition for people who have left jobs to pursue academics. The students admitted must be high achievers (to be able to cope up with the work load) having minimum 3 yrs of work experience (the rationale being one doesn’t get to do anything concrete in first 1 or 2 yrs in an organization) so as to be able to relate the theoretical perspectives with experiential learning.
MBA is an ‘action’ course rather than a passive one. You can’t teach a person to swim by imparting him wisdom in the classroom. But if the person has gotten himself wet a few times in the swimming pool and splayed his legs and hands, he will be able to relate and understand the swimming methods taught. Similarly a person with no work experience can’t appreciate the theoretical underpinnings of the practical business situations, simply because he hasn’t ‘tasted the water’.(very true!!..)
The objective of MBA should be to impart intellectual versatility and rigor in thinking to the students rather than making a person specialist in one area (which he can always pick up later on in his career, depending on his interests and realistic judgment of his capability). The specialization system should be done away with, as leaders need to be ‘generalists’ with understanding of all aspects of business. Also it is difficult to pack specialization, which anyway doesn’t make much sense, in one year course.
Moreover, the curriculum should be peppered with readings in sociology, philosophy, economics and other humanities to provide depth in understanding and ability to think through a situation from different perspectives. Adequate stress must be laid on the personal development of the individual and to hone his soft skills like communication, leadership and negotiation skills by role plays, presentations, etc. The course should stress on moving from analysis to action; MBA, in fact, should become a byword for Managing Business Actions.
Such curriculum demands intellectual vigor and continuous peak effort on the part of the students to undergo this kind of fast paced learning. The moot question is - are Indian students ready to take the plunge? The answer seems to be yes as is proven by the success of ISB.
From India, Pune
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But still, this article isn't helping; it's confusing me even more. I would love a break from studies. This BMS is really time-consuming and leaves no social life. So, I would prefer a break in which I work and prepare for CAT.
But, but, but... will I get a job after TYBMS in HRM and will I be able to get back to studies?
From India, Mumbai
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But, but, but... will I get a job after TYBMS in HRM and will I be able to get back to studies?
From India, Mumbai
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Sunanya,
I think you should prioritize what you want to do. If you believe you need a couple of years of experience before pursuing your MBA, start your search. If you think you should finish your MBA first, then study for your MBA entrance. If you ask too many people, you will only become more confused. Decide on one path and follow it through to its destination.
Whether you will get a job or not after your TY BMS will depend on your preparation, your KSA (knowledge, skills, and abilities), and your efforts in locating companies.
Best wishes
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I think you should prioritize what you want to do. If you believe you need a couple of years of experience before pursuing your MBA, start your search. If you think you should finish your MBA first, then study for your MBA entrance. If you ask too many people, you will only become more confused. Decide on one path and follow it through to its destination.
Whether you will get a job or not after your TY BMS will depend on your preparation, your KSA (knowledge, skills, and abilities), and your efforts in locating companies.
Best wishes
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i think it’ll be better to work first and then do your MBA...well that’s what I’m planning to do...
From Canada, Windsor
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Well, the thing is I'd like to work for a multinational corporation for about 2 to 2 1/2 years. I'm not too worried about returning to school for my MBA. I just have a personal view that you tend to do better and get more out of your MBA course when you have real-life experience. You will be able to relate and apply more effectively. Plus, having some years in between can help me choose a good school and learn more about the university. If I'm going to spend 30-40K on my post-grad education, I really want to pick a good university. I think well-reputed universities in the US require you to have some experience before joining.
Of course, I'm also worried that with an MBA, I could be "over-qualified," and that could be a problem. So, it's better to gain experience first and then go to business school.
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Of course, I'm also worried that with an MBA, I could be "over-qualified," and that could be a problem. So, it's better to gain experience first and then go to business school.
From Canada, Windsor
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