Dear All,
I want to plan a 1-day outing for all the employees of our Mumbai division and am looking for some options. We also want to have some group activities like team-building games, etc.
Can you please suggest some activities and locations for the same so that it's within our budget?
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Sharddha
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I want to plan a 1-day outing for all the employees of our Mumbai division and am looking for some options. We also want to have some group activities like team-building games, etc.
Can you please suggest some activities and locations for the same so that it's within our budget?
Regards,
Sharddha
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Hi Sharddha,
We may be able to help you in this front. Are you looking at team-building games only or actual outbound training sessions for your employees? If we can have a telecon discussion, we may be able to put things in place.
Please feel free to call me on 9663387688 or email me at lancelet.vivian@synapse-india.com.
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Vivian
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1We may be able to help you in this front. Are you looking at team-building games only or actual outbound training sessions for your employees? If we can have a telecon discussion, we may be able to put things in place.
Please feel free to call me on 9663387688 or email me at lancelet.vivian@synapse-india.com.
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Vivian
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Hi Vivian,
She wants only a suggestion, not training. She doesn't want any training; every time you people talk about commercial terms only, so don't include any business mail here. Are you providing free outbound training or not? Kindly change your attitude.
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She wants only a suggestion, not training. She doesn't want any training; every time you people talk about commercial terms only, so don't include any business mail here. Are you providing free outbound training or not? Kindly change your attitude.
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True, Balaji I am looking out to make the outing more fruitful . For that I need some innovative ideas Regards Shraddha
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Hi Sharddha, I am also planning to one day outing. I am in Pune, but I have 2 kinds of group one is staff and other is workers If you would have got any kind of solutions pls share
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Hi Sharddha / Sachin, Hope this PPT will help you. Regards Vivian
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Dear Vivan,
You mistaken me; she wants some suggestions about team-building games, not a training. Nowadays, there are so many messages related to business. This is not a business site; that's why I strongly put this message here. This is not for you if you misuse this site. I have one doubt: what is the need for training in a game session? And one more thing, all are our friends only, so no need to act smart here. Vivan, this is not a fun or dating site to act smart in front of girls. I give respect to all. See my replies on other threads. If I did anything wrong, I apologize for that.
Thanks Vivan, you said, "know act smart in front of girls," that message made me continuously laughing.
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You mistaken me; she wants some suggestions about team-building games, not a training. Nowadays, there are so many messages related to business. This is not a business site; that's why I strongly put this message here. This is not for you if you misuse this site. I have one doubt: what is the need for training in a game session? And one more thing, all are our friends only, so no need to act smart here. Vivan, this is not a fun or dating site to act smart in front of girls. I give respect to all. See my replies on other threads. If I did anything wrong, I apologize for that.
Thanks Vivan, you said, "know act smart in front of girls," that message made me continuously laughing.
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Hi Shraddha, Find herewith attached file may help you:) Dinesh Pawar
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Sachin,
In today's business world, are there really two "kinds" of groups, one "staff" and another "workers"? Or only one group and that is "employees"? Being a management "consultant," I very often am a target of segregation - "employee" and "consultant" type - which is quite normal. Employees of a company, who are paid at most half the money paid to consultants like myself, must enjoy some perks that are not available to consultants (so that they can feel special being employees). But "staff" and "workers"? Think about it... :-)
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--Som G
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In today's business world, are there really two "kinds" of groups, one "staff" and another "workers"? Or only one group and that is "employees"? Being a management "consultant," I very often am a target of segregation - "employee" and "consultant" type - which is quite normal. Employees of a company, who are paid at most half the money paid to consultants like myself, must enjoy some perks that are not available to consultants (so that they can feel special being employees). But "staff" and "workers"? Think about it... :-)
Thanks,
--Som G
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Hi, Well I would suggest "go to a water theme park" together. best team activity. PS: Choose a place where not many in the team has been before. This will make it more FUN
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Dear Som,
The difference is more obvious between a staff and a worker. I will explain to you what we call as staff and workers in my organization.
Workers are girls aged between 16 and 18 (mostly just 12th pass), working on machines in one of our spinning units. A group consists of 350 girls in one unit.
Staff includes other trainees, executives in all other departments, managers, Heads, GM, and more. Now, you must understand that the kind of training that staff receive will be entirely different from what the workers receive.
Staff members will be trained on soft skills, technical aspects, etc. On the other hand, workers receive training more focused on retention, motivation, and technical training on a periodic basis, such as hand-eye coordination, etc.
Even outings differ because their preferences vary. This distinction does not relate to the employee/consultant example because an employee works for one company, while a consultant contributes to many corporates. This segregation does not have any benefits attached to it.
[SomGollakota;856516] Sachin,
In today's business world, are there really two "kinds" of groups, one "staff" and another "workers"? Or is there only one group, and that is "employees"? Being a management consultant, I am often a target of segregation - "employee" and "consultant" types - which is quite normal. Employees of a company, who are paid at most half the money paid to consultants like myself, must enjoy some perks that are not available to consultants (so that they can feel special being employees). But "staff" and "workers"? Think about it... :-)
Thanks,
--Som G [/QUOTE]
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The difference is more obvious between a staff and a worker. I will explain to you what we call as staff and workers in my organization.
Workers are girls aged between 16 and 18 (mostly just 12th pass), working on machines in one of our spinning units. A group consists of 350 girls in one unit.
Staff includes other trainees, executives in all other departments, managers, Heads, GM, and more. Now, you must understand that the kind of training that staff receive will be entirely different from what the workers receive.
Staff members will be trained on soft skills, technical aspects, etc. On the other hand, workers receive training more focused on retention, motivation, and technical training on a periodic basis, such as hand-eye coordination, etc.
Even outings differ because their preferences vary. This distinction does not relate to the employee/consultant example because an employee works for one company, while a consultant contributes to many corporates. This segregation does not have any benefits attached to it.
[SomGollakota;856516] Sachin,
In today's business world, are there really two "kinds" of groups, one "staff" and another "workers"? Or is there only one group, and that is "employees"? Being a management consultant, I am often a target of segregation - "employee" and "consultant" types - which is quite normal. Employees of a company, who are paid at most half the money paid to consultants like myself, must enjoy some perks that are not available to consultants (so that they can feel special being employees). But "staff" and "workers"? Think about it... :-)
Thanks,
--Som G [/QUOTE]
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Hi Dinesh, your ppt is very useful one. Though I lived 13 years in Pune, I have not seen some of the places suggested by you. Thank you. I shall visit next time.
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Hi Asha, Thanks for your comments but i didnt take anything serious, i just gave my suggestion. Anyhow i will rectify my errors. I hope u like this proverb "Learn from mistakes"
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Take them to picnic spot just to be away from the Mumbai’s busy life and for enjoyment. Team building or training can be done inhouse.
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You are right, Mr. Ponraj. Let them come out of Mumbai to breathe fresh air at Lonavla, Khandala, or Matheran. A one-day trip would be really refreshing. When I was working in Pune, we used to take a trip on the first Saturday and Sunday of January every year. We, workers and staff, would travel together and enjoy our time together.
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Buddies,
This is a site to share inputs and resources to have an expressive bray. Both Balaji and Viv are not wrong in what they said. Mr. Vivian, could you provide me your email id? I too need some ideas to proceed with.
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This is a site to share inputs and resources to have an expressive bray. Both Balaji and Viv are not wrong in what they said. Mr. Vivian, could you provide me your email id? I too need some ideas to proceed with.
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Dear All,
Please feel free to call us. We are experts in organizing such Team Building Events. The activities are full of fun, but the learning is extremely strong.
Please call us on 098201 48877 - Meghana
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Please feel free to call us. We are experts in organizing such Team Building Events. The activities are full of fun, but the learning is extremely strong.
Please call us on 098201 48877 - Meghana
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Hi Shraddha,
Recently, I have planned an outing for the entire staff at "Fort Ramgarh," and all the staff enjoyed a lot as we had planned schedules for everyone. We had already decided on a number of activities and participants for each group. Our main objective was to bring everyone closer, especially those who had clashes of thoughts, and we succeeded. So, you can also try these fun games:
At first, we welcomed all the staff and offered them welcoming drinks and snacks. Our host, one of the selected staff members (already decided and planned), announced a warming-up exercise, which surprised everyone! Then, we presented them with a thick and long rope for Tug-of-War. It was unbelievable how everyone was ready to participate. We ended up with two teams, Females vs. Males, and instead of having a single round, we had three rounds. Sometimes, it's unpredictable how your employees will respond to a game.
We also played the old game "Antakshari." Again, all team members were pre-decided, and their names were written on papers (picked by the Head of the Organization). We formed four teams, each with three members. We had several rounds like Emotion round, Occasions round, and Couple round.
In between each game, we included one-minute rounds like "Sari wear round for Males," "Paper Dance round," and "Balloon filling round," etc.
Hope you like the ideas. If you need more ideas, just send a message.
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Vipla
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Recently, I have planned an outing for the entire staff at "Fort Ramgarh," and all the staff enjoyed a lot as we had planned schedules for everyone. We had already decided on a number of activities and participants for each group. Our main objective was to bring everyone closer, especially those who had clashes of thoughts, and we succeeded. So, you can also try these fun games:
At first, we welcomed all the staff and offered them welcoming drinks and snacks. Our host, one of the selected staff members (already decided and planned), announced a warming-up exercise, which surprised everyone! Then, we presented them with a thick and long rope for Tug-of-War. It was unbelievable how everyone was ready to participate. We ended up with two teams, Females vs. Males, and instead of having a single round, we had three rounds. Sometimes, it's unpredictable how your employees will respond to a game.
We also played the old game "Antakshari." Again, all team members were pre-decided, and their names were written on papers (picked by the Head of the Organization). We formed four teams, each with three members. We had several rounds like Emotion round, Occasions round, and Couple round.
In between each game, we included one-minute rounds like "Sari wear round for Males," "Paper Dance round," and "Balloon filling round," etc.
Hope you like the ideas. If you need more ideas, just send a message.
Regards,
Vipla
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For textiles, it's 16 years and above. :-) Read the guidelines, Ravi - be aware of what's happening in the industry!
[QUOTE=taz.india;857845]ASHA, how could you use child labor as workers? So many young girls working in your factory in dangerous conditions. ;-(
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[QUOTE=taz.india;857845]ASHA, how could you use child labor as workers? So many young girls working in your factory in dangerous conditions. ;-(
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Pardon my ignorance, Ash. I wasn't aware of that distinction. While I still maintain that anyone who is employed by a company (not contracted but employed full-time or part-time) is an employee, I now understand the context of reference. I believe the misunderstanding is due to the differences in the meaning associated with the terms "worker" and "staff." At any rate, I stand educated regarding the terms and their possible connotations in India. Thank you for the explanation.
Best regards,
--Som G
Dear Som, The difference is more obvious between staff and worker. I will explain to you what we call as staff & worker in my organization. Workers: Girls aged between 16 and 18 (mostly just 12th pass), working on machines in one of our spinning units. The group consists of 350 girls in one unit. Staff: Other trainees, executives in all other departments, managers, Heads, GM... Now you must understand that the kind of training that staff receives will be entirely different from what the worker will receive. Staff will be trained on soft skills, technical aspects, etc. Workers' training focuses more on retention, motivation, and technical training on a periodic basis such as hand coordination, eye coordination, etc. Even an outing differs because their preferences differ. It does not relate to employee/consultant examples as an employee is for one company, while a consultant contributes to many corporates. This segregation does not have any benefits attached to it.
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Best regards,
--Som G
Dear Som, The difference is more obvious between staff and worker. I will explain to you what we call as staff & worker in my organization. Workers: Girls aged between 16 and 18 (mostly just 12th pass), working on machines in one of our spinning units. The group consists of 350 girls in one unit. Staff: Other trainees, executives in all other departments, managers, Heads, GM... Now you must understand that the kind of training that staff receives will be entirely different from what the worker will receive. Staff will be trained on soft skills, technical aspects, etc. Workers' training focuses more on retention, motivation, and technical training on a periodic basis such as hand coordination, eye coordination, etc. Even an outing differs because their preferences differ. It does not relate to employee/consultant examples as an employee is for one company, while a consultant contributes to many corporates. This segregation does not have any benefits attached to it.
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Hi,
One-day outing will itself give you ample opportunity for team building. Make the outing entertaining so that each attendee enjoys and forgets their official stress. Some basic planning is required, and it also depends on the number of members attending, budget allocation, or sharing, etc:
Selection of the outing place:
- Choose a location near you so that you can return by evening.
- Opt for a picnic spot or a natural beauty like a beach or park.
Transport:
- Use common transport. If the journey is over an hour, organize introductions, jokes, personal life experiences, or chorus singing on the bus to build rapport before reaching the destination. Ensure no personal comments are made under any circumstances.
Organize team games or an entertainment program involving all attendees. Encourage everyone, including the losers, and select team leaders from the members to captain events, fostering team spirit during gameplay.
Catering can be outsourced. Ensure the food caters to both vegetarians and non-vegetarians, decided beforehand through a circulated menu. It's preferable to cook on-site. Arrange for ample drinking water, cold drinks, snacks, and other amenities.
After the outing, gather feedback from all attendees, noting their suggestions, experiences (both positive and negative), and work on improvements for future outings.
Regards
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One-day outing will itself give you ample opportunity for team building. Make the outing entertaining so that each attendee enjoys and forgets their official stress. Some basic planning is required, and it also depends on the number of members attending, budget allocation, or sharing, etc:
Selection of the outing place:
- Choose a location near you so that you can return by evening.
- Opt for a picnic spot or a natural beauty like a beach or park.
Transport:
- Use common transport. If the journey is over an hour, organize introductions, jokes, personal life experiences, or chorus singing on the bus to build rapport before reaching the destination. Ensure no personal comments are made under any circumstances.
Organize team games or an entertainment program involving all attendees. Encourage everyone, including the losers, and select team leaders from the members to captain events, fostering team spirit during gameplay.
Catering can be outsourced. Ensure the food caters to both vegetarians and non-vegetarians, decided beforehand through a circulated menu. It's preferable to cook on-site. Arrange for ample drinking water, cold drinks, snacks, and other amenities.
After the outing, gather feedback from all attendees, noting their suggestions, experiences (both positive and negative), and work on improvements for future outings.
Regards
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Hi,
For different classes of employees who have to split the outing and accordingly plan. Even if you take 350 employees, split them into four batches, you can name the four batches (as houses are named in school), organize events between them, it will bring team spirit.
You can also give prizes batch-wise for events held.
Regards
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For different classes of employees who have to split the outing and accordingly plan. Even if you take 350 employees, split them into four batches, you can name the four batches (as houses are named in school), organize events between them, it will bring team spirit.
You can also give prizes batch-wise for events held.
Regards
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I agree wholeheartedly.
Let it be just a picnic or an outing for a breath of fresh air, with no hidden agenda of team building or training. The employees will be grateful, and the free mingling will promote bonding. Let these be the moments that employees cherish forever; and that find a place in their personal albums. Let the Chief Fun Officer and his team create some fun without playing 'big brother'.
Regards.
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Let it be just a picnic or an outing for a breath of fresh air, with no hidden agenda of team building or training. The employees will be grateful, and the free mingling will promote bonding. Let these be the moments that employees cherish forever; and that find a place in their personal albums. Let the Chief Fun Officer and his team create some fun without playing 'big brother'.
Regards.
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Well, Som, it's good that you are not aware of the realities. The Indian labor scenario is somewhat like an ant's colony. Those in the sweatshop, like 'worker ants,' are the 'workers' - female/male with little education, no or minimal ambitions. 'Staff' is another category like the 'warrior ants' who are like slave-drivers, resourceful and educated, devising ways and means to extract labor most productively. Managerial staff or management is still a higher echelon, busy with activities studied in detail first by Peter Drucker. Sorry to paint a grim picture. Regards.
Pardon my ignorance, Ash. I wasn't aware of that distinction. While I still maintain that anyone employed by a company (not contracted, but employed full time or part-time) is an employee, I now understand the context of reference. I believe the misunderstanding is due to the differences in the meaning associated with the terms "worker" and "staff." At any rate, I stand educated regarding the terms and their possible connotations in India. Thank you for the explanation. Best regards, --Som G
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Pardon my ignorance, Ash. I wasn't aware of that distinction. While I still maintain that anyone employed by a company (not contracted, but employed full time or part-time) is an employee, I now understand the context of reference. I believe the misunderstanding is due to the differences in the meaning associated with the terms "worker" and "staff." At any rate, I stand educated regarding the terms and their possible connotations in India. Thank you for the explanation. Best regards, --Som G
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Hi Som,
Being in Australia, specifically WA, I can attest that what Ash Mathew has pointed out is not only a scenario in India.
Moreover, from my personal experience, I can highlight many employees, particularly Indians, who are enjoying salaries above AU$106k per annum, along with perks, fringe benefits, and other allowances. These additional benefits may total more than what one could receive as a consultant from a specific company before or after tax.
It's important to note that all employees, whether full-time or part-time, receive perks or fringe benefits, with or without salary sacrifice.
Som, as you mentioned being a management consultant, are you not aware of these benefits that exist in Australia?
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Liz
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Being in Australia, specifically WA, I can attest that what Ash Mathew has pointed out is not only a scenario in India.
Moreover, from my personal experience, I can highlight many employees, particularly Indians, who are enjoying salaries above AU$106k per annum, along with perks, fringe benefits, and other allowances. These additional benefits may total more than what one could receive as a consultant from a specific company before or after tax.
It's important to note that all employees, whether full-time or part-time, receive perks or fringe benefits, with or without salary sacrifice.
Som, as you mentioned being a management consultant, are you not aware of these benefits that exist in Australia?
Regards,
Liz
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Hi Som I thought you are in Australia, but you are in US but still what I mentioned in my above post is applicable in US too
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Thanks, Liz. Yes, I do live in WA, USA.
And yes, employees have benefits - health care, 401K, bonus (some companies), stock options/awards, fitness programs, you name it. Base salary plus perks is the "cost to company" per employee. At least in the US, I can speak with certainty, the cost to company of an hourly contractor/consultant is typically two to three times more than that of a full-time employee, and if you take into account the overtime paid to the hourly workers (no overtime for employees), the cost to company skyrockets. This is the reason why when a company really wants to control costs, contract workers are the first to go.
The comparison is between contractors and full-time employees within the same grade of employment (e.g., a Developer Grade II – Contractor Vs. Employee). Therefore, if an employee is making $106K (plus 20% C to C) per year, an hourly contractor in the same grade at the same company would be billing at around $100 to $150 per hour ($208K to $312K per year).
That said, the current economic times, the ever-increasing supply of the workforce, and the desperation among the job seekers to find gainful employment have brought down the contractor rates significantly in the past year. What used to be a $75/hour contract is now fetching $35 to $45/hour.
Oh well. I believe we have moved far away from the topic of this post. However, this is an interesting discussion and an opportunity to learn perspectives and realities. If you want to continue, we can take this offline from this post to a private discussion.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Best regards,
--Som G
Hi Som
Being in Australia, that too WA, I could clearly support what Ash Mathew has pointed out is not only a scenario in India.
The other thing is I can certainly point out from my personal experience many employees that too Indians who are enjoying a salary above AU$106k per annum plus perks or you may say fringe benefits and other allowances which may amount to more than you can get being a consultant from a particular company before or after tax.
Also, all the employees (FTE or part-time) do receive perks or fringe benefits with or without salary sacrifice.
Som, you said you are a management consultant and aren't you aware of these benefits existing in Australia.
Regards
Liz
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And yes, employees have benefits - health care, 401K, bonus (some companies), stock options/awards, fitness programs, you name it. Base salary plus perks is the "cost to company" per employee. At least in the US, I can speak with certainty, the cost to company of an hourly contractor/consultant is typically two to three times more than that of a full-time employee, and if you take into account the overtime paid to the hourly workers (no overtime for employees), the cost to company skyrockets. This is the reason why when a company really wants to control costs, contract workers are the first to go.
The comparison is between contractors and full-time employees within the same grade of employment (e.g., a Developer Grade II – Contractor Vs. Employee). Therefore, if an employee is making $106K (plus 20% C to C) per year, an hourly contractor in the same grade at the same company would be billing at around $100 to $150 per hour ($208K to $312K per year).
That said, the current economic times, the ever-increasing supply of the workforce, and the desperation among the job seekers to find gainful employment have brought down the contractor rates significantly in the past year. What used to be a $75/hour contract is now fetching $35 to $45/hour.
Oh well. I believe we have moved far away from the topic of this post. However, this is an interesting discussion and an opportunity to learn perspectives and realities. If you want to continue, we can take this offline from this post to a private discussion.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Best regards,
--Som G
Hi Som
Being in Australia, that too WA, I could clearly support what Ash Mathew has pointed out is not only a scenario in India.
The other thing is I can certainly point out from my personal experience many employees that too Indians who are enjoying a salary above AU$106k per annum plus perks or you may say fringe benefits and other allowances which may amount to more than you can get being a consultant from a particular company before or after tax.
Also, all the employees (FTE or part-time) do receive perks or fringe benefits with or without salary sacrifice.
Som, you said you are a management consultant and aren't you aware of these benefits existing in Australia.
Regards
Liz
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Hi Som,
Thank you for your reply. Now, our topic of discussion is Employee vs. Contract Employee. It is a fact that, in order to control costs to the company, contract employees are the first ones to go. However, you have to note that contract employees are not eligible for many of the permanent benefits that a full-time or part-time employee enjoys, such as Superannuation, stock options, etc.
It's quite unbelievable for me to believe, based on my personal experience, that contract employees can receive ($208K to $312K per year) unless you have authored a few books and have many big giants to your credit. On the other hand, there are employees who earn the above-mentioned salary as Full-Time Employees (for example, Project Directors), but there are also employees who earn a minimum wage starting from AU$14.67 per hour.
Please note that this is only a professional discussion to enlighten us with the facts prevailing in the current scenario.
Regards,
Liz
From Australia, Adelaide
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Thank you for your reply. Now, our topic of discussion is Employee vs. Contract Employee. It is a fact that, in order to control costs to the company, contract employees are the first ones to go. However, you have to note that contract employees are not eligible for many of the permanent benefits that a full-time or part-time employee enjoys, such as Superannuation, stock options, etc.
It's quite unbelievable for me to believe, based on my personal experience, that contract employees can receive ($208K to $312K per year) unless you have authored a few books and have many big giants to your credit. On the other hand, there are employees who earn the above-mentioned salary as Full-Time Employees (for example, Project Directors), but there are also employees who earn a minimum wage starting from AU$14.67 per hour.
Please note that this is only a professional discussion to enlighten us with the facts prevailing in the current scenario.
Regards,
Liz
From Australia, Adelaide
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