Hi All Suppose if companies start hiring on the basis of Horoscope. Will it going to work or not? What is your take on this? Waiting for your responses Regards Sujata
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Hi, Good idea .Job horoscope can be calculated on the age and job the person currently working , thier position and salary they are getting and also there future plans . Regards Bindiya
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Well then there will be Capricorn Companies, Scorpio Companies; Leo Companies etc etc. One company with Capricorn Employees will be looking for another company with Capricorn employees. Then there will be no need for HR people particularly Recruitment Team and companies will start hiring Astrologers to take care of hiring.
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Regarding success or failure of the company…well, when marriages based on astrology have no guarantee as if they will be successful or not…so no comment on success of employer-employee relation based on astrology.
:? :cry:
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Sanjeev Sharma
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:D
Regarding success or failure of the company…well, when marriages based on astrology have no guarantee as if they will be successful or not…so no comment on success of employer-employee relation based on astrology.
:? :cry:
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Sanjeev Sharma
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Hi,
Well, Sanjeev, thanks for your comments. But it really happened to me a couple of months back. The lady called me for the final round of the interview. During our face-to-face interview, she asked me what my zodiac sign is and told me about her zodiac sign too 😄. I thought of asking, "Are you going to match the horoscope?" but then I thought it would be an insult to her 😊.
So, suppose people in HR start matching the horoscope of the employee who is supposed to join the company, what would be the ratio of joining employees 😜. I really wonder 😂.
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Sujata
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Well, Sanjeev, thanks for your comments. But it really happened to me a couple of months back. The lady called me for the final round of the interview. During our face-to-face interview, she asked me what my zodiac sign is and told me about her zodiac sign too 😄. I thought of asking, "Are you going to match the horoscope?" but then I thought it would be an insult to her 😊.
So, suppose people in HR start matching the horoscope of the employee who is supposed to join the company, what would be the ratio of joining employees 😜. I really wonder 😂.
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Sujata
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Hi,
This may sound weird, but I too am one of those who just can't help looking at the sun sign of the interviewee. 😄 I think it's just a kind of assurance to oneself. However, sun signs just help us understand the basic characteristics of an individual and probably, as a team lead, plan out how to handle the person. At least for me, it does work. 😊
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This may sound weird, but I too am one of those who just can't help looking at the sun sign of the interviewee. 😄 I think it's just a kind of assurance to oneself. However, sun signs just help us understand the basic characteristics of an individual and probably, as a team lead, plan out how to handle the person. At least for me, it does work. 😊
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Sujata...might be that person is having a younger son or brother and was just looking for a right match for him. Wow, that's good...job ke saath mein match making bhi. 😕 😄
Well, I think this usually helps in getting along with the person. Nothing to do with the selection process and quality of work.
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Well, I think this usually helps in getting along with the person. Nothing to do with the selection process and quality of work.
Regards, Sanjeev Sharma
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Hi Saravjot,
Thanks for your inputs.
Sanjeev, If it had been the case, I would have been the happiest person as it would have saved my time for spouse search :D (Just kidding). Anyway, I am too sure that it is not at all related to the selection process. I simply wanted to have a view on it. What would have been the scenario if we started selecting a candidate based on horoscope :P
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Sujata
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Thanks for your inputs.
Sanjeev, If it had been the case, I would have been the happiest person as it would have saved my time for spouse search :D (Just kidding). Anyway, I am too sure that it is not at all related to the selection process. I simply wanted to have a view on it. What would have been the scenario if we started selecting a candidate based on horoscope :P
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Sujata
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Hi Sujata,
Happy New Year!!
Selecting a person on the basis of Horoscope may work for people who believe in this. For instance, there was news a few weeks back that Ekta Kapoor selected people for her serials based on their horoscopes. She is also recruiting people, isn't it? So why can't companies also do that? I think for selection, the right skills and attitude are required, and then one can make their own destiny.
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Archna
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Happy New Year!!
Selecting a person on the basis of Horoscope may work for people who believe in this. For instance, there was news a few weeks back that Ekta Kapoor selected people for her serials based on their horoscopes. She is also recruiting people, isn't it? So why can't companies also do that? I think for selection, the right skills and attitude are required, and then one can make their own destiny.
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Archna
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Hi Archna Happy New Year to you too. Well you are right but somewhere I feel it would create discrimination. Regards Sujata
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Sujata
Jokes apart but people ask the zodiac sign out of curiosity to know the compatibility of the person…of the person who will be joining their team, just in case they believe in that. But, as we know that it hardly makes any difference. After all, we Indian are one of the most superstitious in the world.
As Archna has mentioned the case of Ekta Kapoor…in fact, she is also believed to offer the complete CD's of her episodes at Triputi Balaji. We all are superstitious in one way or the other. Like, I believe that Wednesday is lucky for me and on this day I can almost run away with anything and hence do all my important things on Wednesday. It works for me.
So, you can have selection process based on Astrology or Zodiac signs…if it works for you. No, harm in doing that. After all we all want to be successful in our life…in whatever manner.
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Sanjeev Sharma
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Jokes apart but people ask the zodiac sign out of curiosity to know the compatibility of the person…of the person who will be joining their team, just in case they believe in that. But, as we know that it hardly makes any difference. After all, we Indian are one of the most superstitious in the world.
As Archna has mentioned the case of Ekta Kapoor…in fact, she is also believed to offer the complete CD's of her episodes at Triputi Balaji. We all are superstitious in one way or the other. Like, I believe that Wednesday is lucky for me and on this day I can almost run away with anything and hence do all my important things on Wednesday. It works for me.
So, you can have selection process based on Astrology or Zodiac signs…if it works for you. No, harm in doing that. After all we all want to be successful in our life…in whatever manner.
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Sanjeev Sharma
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Hi!
I believe that job horoscopes are a good idea because they help in identifying the personal traits and soft skills of a person. It is very easy to get an inner view about the person and will definitely help in identifying and matching the skills required for the job with the skill sets of the individual.
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I believe that job horoscopes are a good idea because they help in identifying the personal traits and soft skills of a person. It is very easy to get an inner view about the person and will definitely help in identifying and matching the skills required for the job with the skill sets of the individual.
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Hi Sujata,
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
As Sanjeev mentioned, the horoscope is for those who have a belief in that. It is the skill set that should determine the employability of a person and not his/her horoscope. I guess no company would be ready to look for the horoscope of its client and also wouldn't want the client to do the same. Then, how should one be keen on a candidate's horoscope?!!!
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HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
As Sanjeev mentioned, the horoscope is for those who have a belief in that. It is the skill set that should determine the employability of a person and not his/her horoscope. I guess no company would be ready to look for the horoscope of its client and also wouldn't want the client to do the same. Then, how should one be keen on a candidate's horoscope?!!!
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Hi Sujata,
Even I had a similar experience in my first company's interview. I was also asked about my Zodiac sign, but this did not have any impact on my selection. In my opinion, I feel they must have asked casually to make us feel comfortable while interviewing.
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Swapna
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Even I had a similar experience in my first company's interview. I was also asked about my Zodiac sign, but this did not have any impact on my selection. In my opinion, I feel they must have asked casually to make us feel comfortable while interviewing.
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Swapna
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Dear all,
In general view, let us not state "I BELIEVE" or "I GUESS." In practice, if people follow, do they have any justification for that? After all, Astrology is used to predict the future based on birth details. Let this forum enlighten those who believe/feel/think we need to recruit/hire people based on ASTROLOGY.
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In general view, let us not state "I BELIEVE" or "I GUESS." In practice, if people follow, do they have any justification for that? After all, Astrology is used to predict the future based on birth details. Let this forum enlighten those who believe/feel/think we need to recruit/hire people based on ASTROLOGY.
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vennpuru
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This discussion remind me those few lines of one of the famous song from Rangeela,
"Maathey ya haatho pe; Chand ya taaron pe;
Kismat ko dhundey per khud mein kya hai...yeh na jaaney;
Khud pe hi agar hum ko yaken ho...mushkilen raha ki aasan hon"
Astrology, as mentioned in Munna Bhai MBBS...those astrologers cannot even predict their future and fortune how they can help you.
So, selection based on astrology is a bad idea and don't have any future in Management or at least in HR. Those who believe can continue to believe in this and those who don't should not bother about it.
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Sanjeev Sharma
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"Maathey ya haatho pe; Chand ya taaron pe;
Kismat ko dhundey per khud mein kya hai...yeh na jaaney;
Khud pe hi agar hum ko yaken ho...mushkilen raha ki aasan hon"
Astrology, as mentioned in Munna Bhai MBBS...those astrologers cannot even predict their future and fortune how they can help you.
So, selection based on astrology is a bad idea and don't have any future in Management or at least in HR. Those who believe can continue to believe in this and those who don't should not bother about it.
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Sanjeev Sharma
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Hi Sujata,
HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007
Nice thought, huh? If companies started hiring based on horoscopes and zodiac signs, then we recruiters would have to search job portals for Capricorn and Gemini individuals. We might find not only resumes but also Jatka chakras, right? Just imagine the world working like that... 😂
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HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007
Nice thought, huh? If companies started hiring based on horoscopes and zodiac signs, then we recruiters would have to search job portals for Capricorn and Gemini individuals. We might find not only resumes but also Jatka chakras, right? Just imagine the world working like that... 😂
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HI ALL, I THINK ITS NOT A PROFESSIONAL WAY TO THINK LIKE THAT.WHEN MARRIAGES ARE FAILING. TSUNAMI IS COMING .. THEN WHY LOOKING AN HOROSCOPE
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Hi,
If this is going to be the new HR trend, then all job portals will introduce a new category for horoscope-wise search, isn't it? Job descriptions will have zodiac sign requirements, and an HR Horoscope Specialist post will be created. HRM courses will introduce a special paper on horoscope. :-)
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If this is going to be the new HR trend, then all job portals will introduce a new category for horoscope-wise search, isn't it? Job descriptions will have zodiac sign requirements, and an HR Horoscope Specialist post will be created. HRM courses will introduce a special paper on horoscope. :-)
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Hi all,
A very Happy New Year to all of you. Regarding horoscopes and recruiting, well... believe it or not, but there are a few companies that try to match the recruit's horoscope with the company's at the time of recruitment. I can say this as I was once interviewed by one such company (no names). During my telephonic interview, besides the regular questions, I was asked about my birth date, time, place, etc. I was told that matching my horoscope with the company's was one of the selection criteria.
My personal view is that horoscopes are not the most logical and scientific way of recruitment. However, there are companies that use graphology as well during recruiting, which is equally illogical.
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Prachi
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A very Happy New Year to all of you. Regarding horoscopes and recruiting, well... believe it or not, but there are a few companies that try to match the recruit's horoscope with the company's at the time of recruitment. I can say this as I was once interviewed by one such company (no names). During my telephonic interview, besides the regular questions, I was asked about my birth date, time, place, etc. I was told that matching my horoscope with the company's was one of the selection criteria.
My personal view is that horoscopes are not the most logical and scientific way of recruitment. However, there are companies that use graphology as well during recruiting, which is equally illogical.
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Prachi
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Hi Sujata and Bindya,
I beg to disagree with you. Though I believe a lot in astrology, I feel that considering your horoscope in recruitment will hamper the qualitative aspects of a candidate. More focus would be given to the stars rather than the person's attitude and qualifications. I feel it would lead to some sort of bias as well.
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HiralD
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I beg to disagree with you. Though I believe a lot in astrology, I feel that considering your horoscope in recruitment will hamper the qualitative aspects of a candidate. More focus would be given to the stars rather than the person's attitude and qualifications. I feel it would lead to some sort of bias as well.
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HiralD
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NO...NO..NO....HORROR SCOPES - NOT HOROSCOPE! - HR MGRS pls do not even think of it as a joke! Maya
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Hi all,
Well, guys and gals, thanks for your comments! I do agree that a job should not be based on horoscope, but as Prachi told us, there are some companies which are hiring based on horoscope. Surely, it is not a good idea.
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Sujata
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Well, guys and gals, thanks for your comments! I do agree that a job should not be based on horoscope, but as Prachi told us, there are some companies which are hiring based on horoscope. Surely, it is not a good idea.
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Sujata
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Hi,
I meant selecting people based on their horoscope, but I intended to say selecting based on their career development stages and finding the right path for the individual. For example, if a person is 29 years old and still working at an entry-level position, what will their future look like in 3 to 4 years? This is more about career guidance.
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I meant selecting people based on their horoscope, but I intended to say selecting based on their career development stages and finding the right path for the individual. For example, if a person is 29 years old and still working at an entry-level position, what will their future look like in 3 to 4 years? This is more about career guidance.
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Sujata,
The topic is good for discussion in our free time but of no use when it comes to the selection process. One needs talented people for the organization, and it does not matter if they are Sagittarians or Scorpios, etc.
Rajesh Sharma
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The topic is good for discussion in our free time but of no use when it comes to the selection process. One needs talented people for the organization, and it does not matter if they are Sagittarians or Scorpios, etc.
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Dear Rajesh,
We are also saying the same thing, but as it is done by few companies, we are just trying to convey our thoughts that it is the wrong thing to do. Basically, what matters is the performance of the person. If the performance of the person is good, whether the person is a Capricorn or a Leo, it doesn't make any difference.
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We are also saying the same thing, but as it is done by few companies, we are just trying to convey our thoughts that it is the wrong thing to do. Basically, what matters is the performance of the person. If the performance of the person is good, whether the person is a Capricorn or a Leo, it doesn't make any difference.
Regards, Sujata
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Hi Everyone!
Well, it would be an interesting situation, and favoritism of matching signs would prevail. What if applicants also inquire about the zodiac sign of the company and interviewer...
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Well, it would be an interesting situation, and favoritism of matching signs would prevail. What if applicants also inquire about the zodiac sign of the company and interviewer...
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As mentioned earlier, people often ask for Zodiac signs to "gauge the comfort level" and not to select the person. If Anil Ambani or Bill Gates express their desire to join your company or provide business to you, would you inquire about their Zodiac signs and base your decision on compatibility? That would be considered foolish. While some individuals may follow such practices and find them beneficial, we should not read too much into it.
Just for your information, none of the three Prime Ministers in India ever shared the same Zodiac sign, yet almost all of them have contributed significantly to the country, disregarding Vishwanath Pratap Singh, Chander Shekhar, and Deve Gowda.
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Sanjeev Sharma
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Just for your information, none of the three Prime Ministers in India ever shared the same Zodiac sign, yet almost all of them have contributed significantly to the country, disregarding Vishwanath Pratap Singh, Chander Shekhar, and Deve Gowda.
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Sanjeev Sharma
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Dear Sanjeev,
Thanks for your views, but we are also saying the same thing. We are not suggesting that we should hire people based on their horoscope.
Certainly, if I believe in horoscopes and Bill Gates were to express interest in joining my company, I would definitely match my horoscope with his to assess the compatibility of working together. 😊
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Sujata
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Thanks for your views, but we are also saying the same thing. We are not suggesting that we should hire people based on their horoscope.
Certainly, if I believe in horoscopes and Bill Gates were to express interest in joining my company, I would definitely match my horoscope with his to assess the compatibility of working together. 😊
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Sujata
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What's the issue? Is it Horoscopy or the right fit? For finding the right fit, firstly, the job description, evaluation, and assessment have to be right. Then you can think of finding the right person. Finding a good permanent career and careerist is important for both employers and employees. Not only can horoscopy help, but there is also a requirement for complete brain mapping. Are organizations ready for it? It takes time, effort, and money, but the end result is going to be rewarding. Let's wait for the times to unfold.
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Hi Sujata. I dont think its an ideal aspect of recruitment . Its better hiring a person on behavioural test basis than Horoscope .
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Dear Col. Sanjiv Bhutani & somannamm,
Thank you for your inputs. Yes, it is true that we should not select based on horoscopes. However, I have heard that there are a few companies that are hiring based on horoscope matching.
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Sujata
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Thank you for your inputs. Yes, it is true that we should not select based on horoscopes. However, I have heard that there are a few companies that are hiring based on horoscope matching.
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Sujata
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[HOROSCOPES: FACT, FICTION, OR FUN?]
A group of students conducted an experiment to test the accuracy of horoscopes. Here's what they found.
"I read my horoscope all the time," said Casey Perkins, an 18-year-old student at DeSoto (Texas) High School. So when she heard that her science teacher, Karen Samfield, was looking for students to help research the accuracy of astrological forecasts, Casey jumped at the chance. "I thought it would be fun to see how accurate they would be," she said.
Samfield and 64 of her students—including Casey—joined forces with an editor from Jr. Skeptic magazine. The students examined newspaper horoscopes every day for two weeks to see whether the predictions made by the horoscopes matched the experiences the students actually had.
Scientists have maintained for years that horoscope predictions are no more accurate than pure guesswork. Would the students' observations support that position? And if so, what would their results say about astrology?
SCIENCE OR SUPERSTITION?
Astrology is a set of ancient beliefs about how events on Earth are related to the positions and movements of the sun, planets, and stars. For instance, astrologers say they can predict a person's future from the position of the sun, moon, and stars at the exact moment of the person's birth. A horoscope is a diagram of that position.
Scientists say predictions made from horoscopes are statements so vague they fit just about anyone at any time. Ivan Kelly, a psychologist at the University of Saskatchewan in Saskatoon, Canada, said that a horoscope might say that a person has great intelligence or is highly creative. Yet just about everyone, he said, thinks of himself or herself as being intelligent and creative. Said Kelly: "Have you ever met anybody who describes himself as stupider than usual or less creative than average?"
SCIENCE, STEP-BY-STEP
The DeSoto students started their research by collecting data—information obtained during an investigation. Each day, their teacher showed them 12 horoscope readings from a newspaper, one for each astrological sign: Aquarius, Aries, Cancer, Capricorn, Gemini, Leo, Libra, Pisces, Sagittarius, Scorpio, Taurus, and Virgo. All references to the signs were removed from the readings, and a number was assigned instead to each reading.
The students examined all of the readings from the previous day and decided which one fit the events that had occurred in their own lives. When a reading seemed to fit, students considered it a "hit." If it didn't, it was a "miss."
The students didn't know which horoscope reading corresponded to their own sign, and their teacher didn't know which numbers were assigned to which signs. Scientists call this a double-blind study: meaning that neither the study's participants nor the person conducting the study are aware of the basic details of the study. Many new drugs are tested in double-blind experiments. Both doctors and patients in the studies are unaware of which pills are real and which are simply sugar pills.
Why are studies made double-blind? To remove bias, a personal preference that can unknowingly influence a decision. For instance, if the DeSoto students had known that Horoscope 4 was the Aries reading, kids whose sign was Aries might have been biased toward selecting that particular reading. If the teacher had known which readings matched which signs, she might have communicated such information unconsciously to the students. Scientists say removing bias when collecting data allows more accurate conclusions to be made about the results.
After two weeks, Gilmore compiled all the data gathered by the students. In evaluating the data, Gilmore took into consideration the number of people participating in the study, a number scientists call the sample size. Some studies involve thousands of participants; others involve just a few.
SAMPLE SIZE MATTERS
According to Professor Kelly, the number of participants who should be involved in a study depends in part on how powerful the phenomenon being studied is. For example, horoscopes are supposed to be extremely accurate predictors of the day's events. So even a fairly small sample size, said Dr. Kelly, should be enough to determine whether horoscopes are accurate.
Other studies, such as those examining drugs designed to prevent cancer, require large sample sizes, perhaps hundreds or thousands of participants.
How did the sample size of the DeSoto study stack up? "The more students you have, the better," Kelly said. "But 64 isn't bad. Actually, their study was a pretty good exercise in critical thinking."
The students' critical-thinking exercise came up with 21 hits out of 246 tries, or about 1 hit for every 12 tries. That's about what the students would have come up with purely by chance. The results fit those of dozens of other studies conducted on horoscopes, supporting the conclusion that horoscopes are inaccurate—or, in plain words, a lot of flapdoodle.
What did Casey think of the results? Horoscopes, she said, "aren't as accurate as I thought. They're fun, but it's not good to take them too far."
By A. T. McPhee
JSF
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A group of students conducted an experiment to test the accuracy of horoscopes. Here's what they found.
"I read my horoscope all the time," said Casey Perkins, an 18-year-old student at DeSoto (Texas) High School. So when she heard that her science teacher, Karen Samfield, was looking for students to help research the accuracy of astrological forecasts, Casey jumped at the chance. "I thought it would be fun to see how accurate they would be," she said.
Samfield and 64 of her students—including Casey—joined forces with an editor from Jr. Skeptic magazine. The students examined newspaper horoscopes every day for two weeks to see whether the predictions made by the horoscopes matched the experiences the students actually had.
Scientists have maintained for years that horoscope predictions are no more accurate than pure guesswork. Would the students' observations support that position? And if so, what would their results say about astrology?
SCIENCE OR SUPERSTITION?
Astrology is a set of ancient beliefs about how events on Earth are related to the positions and movements of the sun, planets, and stars. For instance, astrologers say they can predict a person's future from the position of the sun, moon, and stars at the exact moment of the person's birth. A horoscope is a diagram of that position.
Scientists say predictions made from horoscopes are statements so vague they fit just about anyone at any time. Ivan Kelly, a psychologist at the University of Saskatchewan in Saskatoon, Canada, said that a horoscope might say that a person has great intelligence or is highly creative. Yet just about everyone, he said, thinks of himself or herself as being intelligent and creative. Said Kelly: "Have you ever met anybody who describes himself as stupider than usual or less creative than average?"
SCIENCE, STEP-BY-STEP
The DeSoto students started their research by collecting data—information obtained during an investigation. Each day, their teacher showed them 12 horoscope readings from a newspaper, one for each astrological sign: Aquarius, Aries, Cancer, Capricorn, Gemini, Leo, Libra, Pisces, Sagittarius, Scorpio, Taurus, and Virgo. All references to the signs were removed from the readings, and a number was assigned instead to each reading.
The students examined all of the readings from the previous day and decided which one fit the events that had occurred in their own lives. When a reading seemed to fit, students considered it a "hit." If it didn't, it was a "miss."
The students didn't know which horoscope reading corresponded to their own sign, and their teacher didn't know which numbers were assigned to which signs. Scientists call this a double-blind study: meaning that neither the study's participants nor the person conducting the study are aware of the basic details of the study. Many new drugs are tested in double-blind experiments. Both doctors and patients in the studies are unaware of which pills are real and which are simply sugar pills.
Why are studies made double-blind? To remove bias, a personal preference that can unknowingly influence a decision. For instance, if the DeSoto students had known that Horoscope 4 was the Aries reading, kids whose sign was Aries might have been biased toward selecting that particular reading. If the teacher had known which readings matched which signs, she might have communicated such information unconsciously to the students. Scientists say removing bias when collecting data allows more accurate conclusions to be made about the results.
After two weeks, Gilmore compiled all the data gathered by the students. In evaluating the data, Gilmore took into consideration the number of people participating in the study, a number scientists call the sample size. Some studies involve thousands of participants; others involve just a few.
SAMPLE SIZE MATTERS
According to Professor Kelly, the number of participants who should be involved in a study depends in part on how powerful the phenomenon being studied is. For example, horoscopes are supposed to be extremely accurate predictors of the day's events. So even a fairly small sample size, said Dr. Kelly, should be enough to determine whether horoscopes are accurate.
Other studies, such as those examining drugs designed to prevent cancer, require large sample sizes, perhaps hundreds or thousands of participants.
How did the sample size of the DeSoto study stack up? "The more students you have, the better," Kelly said. "But 64 isn't bad. Actually, their study was a pretty good exercise in critical thinking."
The students' critical-thinking exercise came up with 21 hits out of 246 tries, or about 1 hit for every 12 tries. That's about what the students would have come up with purely by chance. The results fit those of dozens of other studies conducted on horoscopes, supporting the conclusion that horoscopes are inaccurate—or, in plain words, a lot of flapdoodle.
What did Casey think of the results? Horoscopes, she said, "aren't as accurate as I thought. They're fun, but it's not good to take them too far."
By A. T. McPhee
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We all know that Astronomy is a science but astrology is 100%hoax. But I am amazed to see that HR personnel are busy in finding sense in horoscope. regards
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Dear Dr. Jogeshwar Ji I would not say that I agree 100% on that but yes there is no use of astrology in Job. Regards Sujata
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Hi All,
I think if companies start hiring based on horoscopes, the companies will first recruit HR managers with knowledge of astrology and may demand astrology as an added qualification. Additionally, HR institutes may include astrology as one of the subjects in the HR syllabus. A person with knowledge of astrology on the interview panel will have an upper hand in the selection process.
Sanjay
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I think if companies start hiring based on horoscopes, the companies will first recruit HR managers with knowledge of astrology and may demand astrology as an added qualification. Additionally, HR institutes may include astrology as one of the subjects in the HR syllabus. A person with knowledge of astrology on the interview panel will have an upper hand in the selection process.
Sanjay
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Hi All,
I think if companies start hiring based on horoscopes, they will first recruit HR managers with knowledge of astrology and may demand astrology as an added qualification. Additionally, HR institutes may include astrology as a subject in their syllabus. A person with knowledge in astrology on the interview panel will have an upper hand in the selection process.
Sanjay, here is an opposing view to mine. We know that Sage Bhrigu, the great grandfather of Parasuram, was in the Satya Yuga and was a great authority in astrology. However, to date, I do not believe any reputable university worldwide has established an astrology department. In India, during the BJP government, the HR minister was very interested in doing so, but it faced resistance from the scientific community.
Sanjay, please provide information on the top universities that teach astrology.
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I think if companies start hiring based on horoscopes, they will first recruit HR managers with knowledge of astrology and may demand astrology as an added qualification. Additionally, HR institutes may include astrology as a subject in their syllabus. A person with knowledge in astrology on the interview panel will have an upper hand in the selection process.
Sanjay, here is an opposing view to mine. We know that Sage Bhrigu, the great grandfather of Parasuram, was in the Satya Yuga and was a great authority in astrology. However, to date, I do not believe any reputable university worldwide has established an astrology department. In India, during the BJP government, the HR minister was very interested in doing so, but it faced resistance from the scientific community.
Sanjay, please provide information on the top universities that teach astrology.
Regards
From India, Delhi
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Hi Col Sanjiv,
I totally agree with your points. Horoscope selection is a waste of time and not safe to follow. If anybody selects candidates based only on horoscope without any skills, it is going to work out wrong and end up in losses.
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I totally agree with your points. Horoscope selection is a waste of time and not safe to follow. If anybody selects candidates based only on horoscope without any skills, it is going to work out wrong and end up in losses.
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Hi Sujata,
Please accept my best wishes for a Happy New Year to all cite-hr family members via this thread.
I'm sure that the scenario emerging by including the horoscope for recruitment, etc., in the workplace will be full of discrimination, corruption, and manipulation. In some areas, India is already on the backfoot due to these issues.
Therefore, considering the envisaged impact of the horoscope factor, it should be discouraged if it is being considered in any sphere of the business.
With best regards,
Alok Goel
From India, Bharat
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Please accept my best wishes for a Happy New Year to all cite-hr family members via this thread.
I'm sure that the scenario emerging by including the horoscope for recruitment, etc., in the workplace will be full of discrimination, corruption, and manipulation. In some areas, India is already on the backfoot due to these issues.
Therefore, considering the envisaged impact of the horoscope factor, it should be discouraged if it is being considered in any sphere of the business.
With best regards,
Alok Goel
From India, Bharat
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Horoscopes, zodiacs and astrology-the origin dates back to the early 17th Century AD!!!
The ‘science' of Astrology has been famous since ages.
The point to ponder is:
Hypothetically speaking, if companies start recruiting on the basis of Astrology, which branch of Astrology should one believe in?
Are zodiacs true?
Or do horoscopes give a more accurate picture about ‘the right person for the right job'?
Since we're Indians, should we believe only in ‘Jyotishi'or combine the studies of Western Astrology and Chinese traditions too, which are quite different from each other?
For if we don't, then what should we do in case of Non Indian candidates and positions overseas???
And…which astrologer do we,as employers, believe in? For we can believe in the art of Astrology, which has its roots in Indian History too (read about Bhrigu in one of the earlier posts) but can we equally believe in the astrologers of today?
Phew!!!am I thankful Jobs based on Horoscopes are not the next 'in' thing in the Corporate World!
From India
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The ‘science' of Astrology has been famous since ages.
The point to ponder is:
Hypothetically speaking, if companies start recruiting on the basis of Astrology, which branch of Astrology should one believe in?
Are zodiacs true?
Or do horoscopes give a more accurate picture about ‘the right person for the right job'?
Since we're Indians, should we believe only in ‘Jyotishi'or combine the studies of Western Astrology and Chinese traditions too, which are quite different from each other?
For if we don't, then what should we do in case of Non Indian candidates and positions overseas???
And…which astrologer do we,as employers, believe in? For we can believe in the art of Astrology, which has its roots in Indian History too (read about Bhrigu in one of the earlier posts) but can we equally believe in the astrologers of today?
Phew!!!am I thankful Jobs based on Horoscopes are not the next 'in' thing in the Corporate World!
From India
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Sage Bhrigu belonged to more than 5000 BC. Dr. Mrali Manohar Joshi is ver much present. Can you please tell which Universities in the world have astrology departments? For India you can check up the Handbook of Universities. Let us not talk in the air.
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Sujatha,
Till date, I had not even thought about checking the zodiac sign of a candidate. It is certainly a very interesting topic. Let me check the existing sun signs and see if the longest-serving employees have any sign compatibility with the Boss. It does sound interesting!
Praveen
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Till date, I had not even thought about checking the zodiac sign of a candidate. It is certainly a very interesting topic. Let me check the existing sun signs and see if the longest-serving employees have any sign compatibility with the Boss. It does sound interesting!
Praveen
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Dr. Jogeshwar Mahanta,
True. Hindu mythology claims that Sage Bhrigu was the son of Brahma. One of the first compilers of predictive astrology, he is said to have compiled more than 500,000 horoscopes! Saying that astrology is a hoax would not be totally correct. If we have to find fault, we should blame the bogus astrologers of this generation who have turned the ancient science into blasphemy. But yes, I agree that astrology in a professional corporate setup is absurd.
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True. Hindu mythology claims that Sage Bhrigu was the son of Brahma. One of the first compilers of predictive astrology, he is said to have compiled more than 500,000 horoscopes! Saying that astrology is a hoax would not be totally correct. If we have to find fault, we should blame the bogus astrologers of this generation who have turned the ancient science into blasphemy. But yes, I agree that astrology in a professional corporate setup is absurd.
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Hi All, Some of companies believe in this - horoscope math with interpersonal relationship. Regards, Chatha
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Every one is free to pursue his/her belief. But is there any cogent to ground for which it is to be adopted in your company? regards
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I guess people... it'll be a real bad idea if you have a Virgo employer and an Arien employee. Whoa, man, it's going to be a big-time problem in their relations all the time. But using this criterion in the interviews doesn't seem to be such an amusing idea for sure. So people, please say NO to horoscope matching as far as jobs are concerned, please.
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Welcome Garima. What is that which made you to post your first message on horoscope? Is it because it is too easy to express the opinion here? regards
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It is very interesting to know that the practice of recruiting employees based on zodiac signs started. Perhaps it is better to learn astrology rather than other subjects, and I hope there might be some chances of egotistic problems regarding which zodiac sign people will do more work or who are most obedient, like that. But I am sure none of the corporates will definitely find someone with all personalities.
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hi nice to hear from you, that hiring could be based on horoscope. Then its better to have astrologer in every organisation, but then how do u recommed to hire an astrologer. :?: bye puru
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Belief is above reason. Some are here who are ardent proponents of astrology. Some are inclined to accept it. Is there any compelling information in favor of astrology? None has been posted so far. However, both the ardent proponents and the inclined individuals will likely continue to hold onto their beliefs. The mindset is unshakeable, or at least logic lacks the strength to challenge it.
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Hello Garima. The amusing idea with unique tender at corporates always attracts my attention as such this one and for easy answer or msg but Yes, U can also accept that it is easy to comment
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Hi Puru,
Thank you for your comment. That's right, the problem lies in how to hire an astrologer. If it is my problem, then I would go for those astrologers who are well-versed in all types of astrology (Indian, Chinese, Japanese, etc.) and other related areas of astrology so that they can predict the life of the employee in the company. This way, we would know when to recruit other employees just in time.
UDAY KUMAR
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Thank you for your comment. That's right, the problem lies in how to hire an astrologer. If it is my problem, then I would go for those astrologers who are well-versed in all types of astrology (Indian, Chinese, Japanese, etc.) and other related areas of astrology so that they can predict the life of the employee in the company. This way, we would know when to recruit other employees just in time.
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Dr. Jogeshwarji,
Thank you for your comment. In my reaction to this topic, I mentioned that the HR Institute may add Astrology as one of the subjects. This topic has come up for discussion by asking what would happen if this were to occur and whether it should happen. Therefore, the reaction is based on imagination, without knowing if it will be possible. In your response, you mentioned that the HR Minister did try for it and that there are authorities on Astrology. I believe that resources and infrastructure should be considered when imagining something; however, I am unaware if any university has an Astrology department.
One can certainly debate whether it should be done or not. I am suggesting that the HR institute may add it, without dwelling on the issue. There is no intention to take an opposing view to your thoughtful opinion.
With Warm Regards,
Sanjay A. Jadhav
From India, Ghansoli
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Thank you for your comment. In my reaction to this topic, I mentioned that the HR Institute may add Astrology as one of the subjects. This topic has come up for discussion by asking what would happen if this were to occur and whether it should happen. Therefore, the reaction is based on imagination, without knowing if it will be possible. In your response, you mentioned that the HR Minister did try for it and that there are authorities on Astrology. I believe that resources and infrastructure should be considered when imagining something; however, I am unaware if any university has an Astrology department.
One can certainly debate whether it should be done or not. I am suggesting that the HR institute may add it, without dwelling on the issue. There is no intention to take an opposing view to your thoughtful opinion.
With Warm Regards,
Sanjay A. Jadhav
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"I am sorry I do not know, if any university has Astrology department. "Sanjay A. Jadhav Nor any body else knows,I think. regards
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Dear Sujatha,
It's really excellent that your creativity regarding this horoscope hiring. However, in practical situations, it's an impossible aspect of hiring. I have never heard of any company hiring based on horoscopes because most people believe in two different horoscopes: 1. birth time and 2. the English calendar. Therefore, analyzing a person based on this would be very difficult. It's better to hire personnel using different recruitment tools like behavioral tests, psychometric tests, and more available in the market.
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Somanna
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It's really excellent that your creativity regarding this horoscope hiring. However, in practical situations, it's an impossible aspect of hiring. I have never heard of any company hiring based on horoscopes because most people believe in two different horoscopes: 1. birth time and 2. the English calendar. Therefore, analyzing a person based on this would be very difficult. It's better to hire personnel using different recruitment tools like behavioral tests, psychometric tests, and more available in the market.
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Somanna
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Hi,
Well I know about few organizations (even large established ones) were Horoscope is also one parameter for final selection of the candidate. It is mandatory for people working directly working with the owner of organization.
There are two ways to look at this situation:
Point no 1: The concept of "corporate Masking" is very much in practice. The recruiter can not completely know about the candidate or what's cooking in his mind in a 30 minutes interview. Horoscope can be an indicative to find out basic characteristics of a individual and eliminate the unwanted ones. (Like an loyalty, stability, faithfulness, conspiracy etc)
Point no 2: Horoscope could specify good or bad effect, as in a good or a bad omen. How a new person's addition in team would would affect the growth factor.
Again all this depends on how much belief the person has on horoscopy. Horoscope can be an indicative but it should not be a parameter for employment decision.
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Kanchan Yadav
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Well I know about few organizations (even large established ones) were Horoscope is also one parameter for final selection of the candidate. It is mandatory for people working directly working with the owner of organization.
There are two ways to look at this situation:
Point no 1: The concept of "corporate Masking" is very much in practice. The recruiter can not completely know about the candidate or what's cooking in his mind in a 30 minutes interview. Horoscope can be an indicative to find out basic characteristics of a individual and eliminate the unwanted ones. (Like an loyalty, stability, faithfulness, conspiracy etc)
Point no 2: Horoscope could specify good or bad effect, as in a good or a bad omen. How a new person's addition in team would would affect the growth factor.
Again all this depends on how much belief the person has on horoscopy. Horoscope can be an indicative but it should not be a parameter for employment decision.
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Kanchan Yadav
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Right to faith is a fundamental right. Any one may adopt any faith but behind horoscope there is no scientific truth. regards
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Hello Kanchan,
I know that more than 90% of Hindu families match the horoscope before getting married, but does that ensure the longevity of the relationship? Faith is different from reality. If you have faith, even a stone can be prayed to. Reliance practices Vastu Sastra in their office. Ekta Kapoor is a devotee of Tirupati and offers her CDs of every episode to Tirupati. As I said earlier, it's all on an individual. Such beliefs and faith might work for some and might not work for others. Hence, using horoscopes in hiring/recruitments is a bad idea.
Regards, Sanjeev Sharma
From India, Mumbai
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I know that more than 90% of Hindu families match the horoscope before getting married, but does that ensure the longevity of the relationship? Faith is different from reality. If you have faith, even a stone can be prayed to. Reliance practices Vastu Sastra in their office. Ekta Kapoor is a devotee of Tirupati and offers her CDs of every episode to Tirupati. As I said earlier, it's all on an individual. Such beliefs and faith might work for some and might not work for others. Hence, using horoscopes in hiring/recruitments is a bad idea.
Regards, Sanjeev Sharma
From India, Mumbai
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Hi Sanjeev,
Even I don't support the idea of hiring based on horoscopy. But we should respect others' thinking/beliefs as well. People who follow it should not perceive this as highly unethical or morally incorrect because there are reasons behind it. It's their belief.
I had worked as a recruiter in an organization where this was practiced. Initially, I also found it incorrect. However, real-life situations made me accept that it can also be indicative. It's just a check, not a reason for determining compensation or growth.
As you rightly said, with a strong belief, a stone can be seen as a god. Similarly, everything depends on belief, how much faith do you have in the science of astrology.
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Kanchan Yadav
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Even I don't support the idea of hiring based on horoscopy. But we should respect others' thinking/beliefs as well. People who follow it should not perceive this as highly unethical or morally incorrect because there are reasons behind it. It's their belief.
I had worked as a recruiter in an organization where this was practiced. Initially, I also found it incorrect. However, real-life situations made me accept that it can also be indicative. It's just a check, not a reason for determining compensation or growth.
As you rightly said, with a strong belief, a stone can be seen as a god. Similarly, everything depends on belief, how much faith do you have in the science of astrology.
Regards,
Kanchan Yadav
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Kanchan...
Horoscopes, Astrology can make you happy or might give you confidence.
Beliefs can give to culture and confidence.
But such practices can never give you quality or talent. Such beliefs can never ensure you progress.
Beliefs, which are hindrance to our growth and prosperity, are ridicules and trash.
For example…many people have believe in Satya Sai Baba…let them believe but truth is far from reality. People can believe in anything but they cannot force their belief of others…can they.
If we want growth and prosperity
If we want talent and result
We need to grow-up and believe in reality not in darkness.
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Sanjeev Sharma
From India, Mumbai
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Horoscopes, Astrology can make you happy or might give you confidence.
Beliefs can give to culture and confidence.
But such practices can never give you quality or talent. Such beliefs can never ensure you progress.
Beliefs, which are hindrance to our growth and prosperity, are ridicules and trash.
For example…many people have believe in Satya Sai Baba…let them believe but truth is far from reality. People can believe in anything but they cannot force their belief of others…can they.
If we want growth and prosperity
If we want talent and result
We need to grow-up and believe in reality not in darkness.
Regards
Sanjeev Sharma
From India, Mumbai
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Hi friends,
Horoscope in recruitment is really ridiculous. There is no one who can be one hundred percent accurate in predicting a person's nature, attitude, or behavior. I am evidence of such a case where people born under the same star sign are so different, with no similarities in their attitude and their approach to life. All of us react differently to situations, and mostly, we try to embody a behavior that makes us believe in the horoscope.
Isn't it mere foolishness to recruit based on horoscopes?
Regards, Mildred
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
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Horoscope in recruitment is really ridiculous. There is no one who can be one hundred percent accurate in predicting a person's nature, attitude, or behavior. I am evidence of such a case where people born under the same star sign are so different, with no similarities in their attitude and their approach to life. All of us react differently to situations, and mostly, we try to embody a behavior that makes us believe in the horoscope.
Isn't it mere foolishness to recruit based on horoscopes?
Regards, Mildred
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
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Hi all,
It's true that as part of finalizing a candidate nowadays, some companies use horoscopic analysis. Although I belong to a religion that does not believe in or give importance to horoscopes or astrology (I've mentioned this not to show that before attending this interview, I didn't know about my zodiac sign but rather not to offend anyone who believes in horoscopes), a reputed HR consulting firm provided some horoscopic insights about my behavior.
Do you know how?
In the first round of the interview, I took a psychometric test! Was that a psychometric test or a horoscope reading? A week later, they offered me the job, but I declined to accept.
Regards,
Mubeen 8)
From India, Madras
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It's true that as part of finalizing a candidate nowadays, some companies use horoscopic analysis. Although I belong to a religion that does not believe in or give importance to horoscopes or astrology (I've mentioned this not to show that before attending this interview, I didn't know about my zodiac sign but rather not to offend anyone who believes in horoscopes), a reputed HR consulting firm provided some horoscopic insights about my behavior.
Do you know how?
In the first round of the interview, I took a psychometric test! Was that a psychometric test or a horoscope reading? A week later, they offered me the job, but I declined to accept.
Regards,
Mubeen 8)
From India, Madras
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