Dear All,
I am deeply going into depression due to politics in the company. I am working in India's leading export house, but one week before management told me that your service would be terminated due to new hiring. I have joined on 23rd Feb-09 and I am still in the probation period. Please advise, could I take any legal action or request the company regarding this matter.
Thank you.
From India, New Delhi
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I am deeply going into depression due to politics in the company. I am working in India's leading export house, but one week before management told me that your service would be terminated due to new hiring. I have joined on 23rd Feb-09 and I am still in the probation period. Please advise, could I take any legal action or request the company regarding this matter.
Thank you.
From India, New Delhi
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Hi Rakesh,
First, you have to be very strong, dear, if you really want to get through this situation. Make yourself emotionally very strong. Then, ask your management to provide in writing why they are letting you go, and inquire about the reasons. Please do not sign any documents without reading and understanding them properly.
Regards,
Shine
From India, Bhopal
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First, you have to be very strong, dear, if you really want to get through this situation. Make yourself emotionally very strong. Then, ask your management to provide in writing why they are letting you go, and inquire about the reasons. Please do not sign any documents without reading and understanding them properly.
Regards,
Shine
From India, Bhopal
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Please check your appointment letter for the exit clause. In most cases, during the probation period, management has the right to end the contract without giving any reason. I suggest you talk to your management and immediate boss. Start looking for a job and have confidence in yourself. This is a common challenge. Remember not to work for a company; always work for a job. Better opportunities are waiting for you in the future.
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Hi Rakesh,
Shine is right. You need to be strong. Maybe you are in the present situation because you seem to surrender easily. Maybe you lack the confidence and the "Yes, I can" attitude, and that's why your boss is not happy. Why would he replace you with a new guy? Try to find out the reasons. Look inside yourself and decide that you will keep working hard, keep smiling, and be friendly with the people around you. Make the atmosphere around you lighter. Remember, even if you lose this job, life does not end here. Maybe some great opportunity is waiting.
Keep it up, buddy, you have potential.
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Shekhar
From India, Lucknow
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Shine is right. You need to be strong. Maybe you are in the present situation because you seem to surrender easily. Maybe you lack the confidence and the "Yes, I can" attitude, and that's why your boss is not happy. Why would he replace you with a new guy? Try to find out the reasons. Look inside yourself and decide that you will keep working hard, keep smiling, and be friendly with the people around you. Make the atmosphere around you lighter. Remember, even if you lose this job, life does not end here. Maybe some great opportunity is waiting.
Keep it up, buddy, you have potential.
Regards,
Shekhar
From India, Lucknow
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Hi Rakesh,
First of all, my sympathies to you. However, please understand that while you are on probation, the company may decide to terminate your services without assigning any reasons. You have not mentioned the terms of your appointment, the duration of the probation period, or whether there is any clause preventing or permitting the management to terminate your services without giving reasons. Please carefully review the letter of appointment. If the company is adhering to what has been mentioned and agreed upon by you, there is very little you can do. Be courageous and graceful in accepting the inevitable. Ask them to provide you with a good experience certificate and request them to state the reason for leaving as "personal."
I can understand how painful this situation is for you, but in today's work life, hiring and firing are becoming common. Do not lose hope, and I am sure you will soon find something better as the markets are definitely showing signs of opening up.
All the best.
Krishnan
From India, Madras
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First of all, my sympathies to you. However, please understand that while you are on probation, the company may decide to terminate your services without assigning any reasons. You have not mentioned the terms of your appointment, the duration of the probation period, or whether there is any clause preventing or permitting the management to terminate your services without giving reasons. Please carefully review the letter of appointment. If the company is adhering to what has been mentioned and agreed upon by you, there is very little you can do. Be courageous and graceful in accepting the inevitable. Ask them to provide you with a good experience certificate and request them to state the reason for leaving as "personal."
I can understand how painful this situation is for you, but in today's work life, hiring and firing are becoming common. Do not lose hope, and I am sure you will soon find something better as the markets are definitely showing signs of opening up.
All the best.
Krishnan
From India, Madras
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Dear,
Be bold. This has happened to you, and as you mentioned, you were working in an export company. This export company does not have professional ethics. As per the terms and conditions of the appointment, what was written, however, Mr. Kirshan has written correctly.
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J.S. Malik
From India, Delhi
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Be bold. This has happened to you, and as you mentioned, you were working in an export company. This export company does not have professional ethics. As per the terms and conditions of the appointment, what was written, however, Mr. Kirshan has written correctly.
Regards,
J.S. Malik
From India, Delhi
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Do not feel depressed. Speak to your boss to understand the reasons and explain your position. Ask them to give you a chance. If nothing works out, don't be discouraged. Try somewhere else.
NEVER LOSE HOPE.
Saurabh
From China, Leizhou
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NEVER LOSE HOPE.
Saurabh
From China, Leizhou
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Look, my seniors and friends have already suggested about the possible move. There is nothing more to say. The only thing I would say is, don't get depressed. In case you require any sort of help, you can call me on my cell whenever you wish to, which is provided below. Whatever help is possible from my side, you will definitely get it.
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Export houses and almost every company are cutting costs. Export houses are particularly hard hit by the recession as import requirements are low. It is possible that they hired the new employee at a lower pay scale. In any case, you need to remain sincere and try to look for another job. There is very little point in getting depressed, although I understand that it is inevitable. What you need to focus on and understand is that 10 years down the line, the status of your life will depend on how you tackle this challenge.
Regards, CHR
From India, Gurgaon
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Dear Rakesh, habituate with day to day politics. without politics you can’t survive in any service place. so take it easy and wait for time Time will solve all your problem. best of luck Dada
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Dear Friend,
Try to tackle the situation by requesting your company to provide you with at least 2 months' notice for any changes. With this advance notice, you will have ample time to search for other opportunities.
Stay positive and be strategic, dear friend; that's all that is required at this moment.
From India, Bhopal
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Try to tackle the situation by requesting your company to provide you with at least 2 months' notice for any changes. With this advance notice, you will have ample time to search for other opportunities.
Stay positive and be strategic, dear friend; that's all that is required at this moment.
From India, Bhopal
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Hi Rakesh,
I see that there is no point in asking for your rights to continue with them anymore. But since they have terminated you, please ask them for the final settlement and keep moving.
Reasons for termination may be:
a) They found someone for a better pay.
b) OR they were desperately in need of someone for that posting of yours and did not find anyone really good at that point. They felt you were average and hired you to put the fire off. Later, they came across this new candidate who seemed to be just the right person they were looking at, and they had no choice but to hire him.
c) OR they felt it would take time and investment to train you, and they had no choice because of falling profits - but hired another person who may be much more experienced than you.
It happens not just in the export industry but across all industries.
Regarding your next job:
Please check if the company that is offering you a job has the ability to pay you the salary that fits your profile.
When you do a salary negotiation, clearly tell them that you would like the range to be within the company standards. If it's not within the company standards and if they are looking to hire you just to put out the fire at the moment, then you need to tell them that you are looking for a long-term relationship, not a short-lived one.
Depression is one thing that stops anyone from thinking forward. I don't know, it's like a symptom in which you are not able to look at the brighter side. I can't tell you to stop being depressed because I know the difficulty in coming out of it.
I have also been through major depression in my life, and I can confidently say that once you see the light and the opportunity that's waiting behind the door, one day you will turn back and see how much these incidents in life have taught us to be careful while choosing and making life's important choices. To make this door visible to your eyes, stop replaying the past in your head. Be confident - the hand that held you until now knows how to lead you forever.
Life is 10% of what happens to you and 90% of what you make out of it!
Good Luck!
From India, Madras
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I see that there is no point in asking for your rights to continue with them anymore. But since they have terminated you, please ask them for the final settlement and keep moving.
Reasons for termination may be:
a) They found someone for a better pay.
b) OR they were desperately in need of someone for that posting of yours and did not find anyone really good at that point. They felt you were average and hired you to put the fire off. Later, they came across this new candidate who seemed to be just the right person they were looking at, and they had no choice but to hire him.
c) OR they felt it would take time and investment to train you, and they had no choice because of falling profits - but hired another person who may be much more experienced than you.
It happens not just in the export industry but across all industries.
Regarding your next job:
Please check if the company that is offering you a job has the ability to pay you the salary that fits your profile.
When you do a salary negotiation, clearly tell them that you would like the range to be within the company standards. If it's not within the company standards and if they are looking to hire you just to put out the fire at the moment, then you need to tell them that you are looking for a long-term relationship, not a short-lived one.
Depression is one thing that stops anyone from thinking forward. I don't know, it's like a symptom in which you are not able to look at the brighter side. I can't tell you to stop being depressed because I know the difficulty in coming out of it.
I have also been through major depression in my life, and I can confidently say that once you see the light and the opportunity that's waiting behind the door, one day you will turn back and see how much these incidents in life have taught us to be careful while choosing and making life's important choices. To make this door visible to your eyes, stop replaying the past in your head. Be confident - the hand that held you until now knows how to lead you forever.
Life is 10% of what happens to you and 90% of what you make out of it!
Good Luck!
From India, Madras
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Dear All,
There is not any particular reason to fire me. My boss is always appreciating my work; he even told me, "you can stay here until you find another job." However, due to strong pressure from higher management, he is also feeling helpless.
In any case, you all are great and make me feel confident. Thanks a lot to all of you, dear. This is the first time someone has made me feel strong. Now, I am okay and looking for a new job.
From India, New Delhi
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There is not any particular reason to fire me. My boss is always appreciating my work; he even told me, "you can stay here until you find another job." However, due to strong pressure from higher management, he is also feeling helpless.
In any case, you all are great and make me feel confident. Thanks a lot to all of you, dear. This is the first time someone has made me feel strong. Now, I am okay and looking for a new job.
From India, New Delhi
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Hi Rakesh, Nothing to worry about it, just ask for wriitern clarification or the reason for your replacement. and keep look out for the new opprtunity Regards Jayana
From India, Ahmadabad
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Hi, As what everybody said "Ask them to give it in writing",as per my knowledge they will not do that and in turn try to convince you in resigning or do something else to throw you out of the company
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Hi, Firstly, be strong and best of luck for your next venture. My seniors have already given you good advice and suggestions. Go ahead with it. You will hardly find a company that is bothered about its employees. It's a common problem faced by thousands of professionals all over the country, and you should also understand the current commercial environment.
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Shilpa
From India, Bangalore
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Shilpa
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Hi Friends,
I have also faced the same problem. I was working with a US-based travel company for the last 23 months in an HR profile, and it is nowhere mentioned in my appointment letter that they can ask me to leave without any reason. I was not comfortable working the Graveyard shift, i.e., 10 PM to 6:00 AM. My AM shifted me to that shift without any specific work. He also stopped my salary and incentives for the month of May '09, and my other dues like medical and incentives for the months of April, May, and June are with the company. Kindly suggest what to do.
Regards,
Deepinder
From India, Panipat
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I have also faced the same problem. I was working with a US-based travel company for the last 23 months in an HR profile, and it is nowhere mentioned in my appointment letter that they can ask me to leave without any reason. I was not comfortable working the Graveyard shift, i.e., 10 PM to 6:00 AM. My AM shifted me to that shift without any specific work. He also stopped my salary and incentives for the month of May '09, and my other dues like medical and incentives for the months of April, May, and June are with the company. Kindly suggest what to do.
Regards,
Deepinder
From India, Panipat
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Dear,
Value this mishap as a window of your opportunity. It saddens me a lot that administration like this doesn't have any humane approach to deal with such kind of staff dismissal.
As advice to you, consider how you can cope with the emotions. It seems that it is dearer for you to hold on to this job. But life must go on... you never know, there is a silver lining apart from this downfall.
The company has its full right to terminate, especially in times of this crisis. Yet the door for you is not closed. Shake up your daily schedule, spice it up, and accelerate. Start by editing your CV, organize your documents, and search for job openings. You would least like to feel depressed when you accept these circumstances as a privilege to move on...
LASTLY, MY WORD OF ADVICE TO YOU... you may have fallen in the mud, but that is not something to be ashamed of or afraid of...!! What is shameful is to remain in the mud, fearful... and not to stand up. Carry on, you can make the most of it by starting all over.
From Saudi Arabia
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Value this mishap as a window of your opportunity. It saddens me a lot that administration like this doesn't have any humane approach to deal with such kind of staff dismissal.
As advice to you, consider how you can cope with the emotions. It seems that it is dearer for you to hold on to this job. But life must go on... you never know, there is a silver lining apart from this downfall.
The company has its full right to terminate, especially in times of this crisis. Yet the door for you is not closed. Shake up your daily schedule, spice it up, and accelerate. Start by editing your CV, organize your documents, and search for job openings. You would least like to feel depressed when you accept these circumstances as a privilege to move on...
LASTLY, MY WORD OF ADVICE TO YOU... you may have fallen in the mud, but that is not something to be ashamed of or afraid of...!! What is shameful is to remain in the mud, fearful... and not to stand up. Carry on, you can make the most of it by starting all over.
From Saudi Arabia
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Hi Rakesh,
I think this is the right time to explore yourself, find the right opportunity, and take the situation positively. There might be a better opportunity waiting for you; find it and prove yourself instead of getting depressed. All the very best.
From India, Madras
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I think this is the right time to explore yourself, find the right opportunity, and take the situation positively. There might be a better opportunity waiting for you; find it and prove yourself instead of getting depressed. All the very best.
From India, Madras
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Firstly do not feel bad, discusse with your management about your matter,you can find out the way. Regards Ravi Vaja
From India, Ahmedabad
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Hi Rakesh,
It is unfortunate that this is happening to you. Have you checked with your immediate supervisor why this step is being taken and if there is no termination based on the grounds you have mentioned in this thread? If they are attempting to proceed with the actions you mentioned, consider reaching out to a corporate contact for assistance.
From India, New Delhi
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It is unfortunate that this is happening to you. Have you checked with your immediate supervisor why this step is being taken and if there is no termination based on the grounds you have mentioned in this thread? If they are attempting to proceed with the actions you mentioned, consider reaching out to a corporate contact for assistance.
From India, New Delhi
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Hi Mr. White Eagle, I would say, that you are right, but, there has to be a notification on why they are doing so and also pay the employee some amount as a part of sacking job.
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Dear All,
I am deeply going through depression due to politics in the company. I am working in India's leading export house, but one week ago, management informed me that my service would be terminated due to new hiring. I joined on 23rd Feb-09 and am still in the probation period. Please advise if I could take any legal action or request the company.
Hi Rakesh,
I can understand the turmoil you are going through. Don't lose heart. I know it is difficult at this stage where you might be dependent on your job for all aspects. Start applying for jobs and go for interviews with a positive attitude. Sometimes, there are very tough times, but they do not last forever. After a devastating forest fire, there is new life budding everywhere. The same goes for you. I would personally like to ask you to stay calm and try for new jobs. Most of the export houses would have their legal cells, so even if you take them to court, you will not be interrupting their day-to-day work, whereas you would be losing your time, effort, emotions, and money. Get up, stand up, and fight for a job by attending many interviews. Never badmouth your previous company, but I am sure you have learned a lesson. Stay strong, and you will shine in life.
Lots of love and lots of luck,
Ruby
From India, Mumbai
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Dear All,
I am deeply going through depression due to politics in the company. I am working in India's leading export house, but one week ago, management informed me that my service would be terminated due to new hiring. I joined on 23rd Feb-09 and am still in the probation period. Please advise if I could take any legal action or request the company.
Hi Rakesh,
I can understand the turmoil you are going through. Don't lose heart. I know it is difficult at this stage where you might be dependent on your job for all aspects. Start applying for jobs and go for interviews with a positive attitude. Sometimes, there are very tough times, but they do not last forever. After a devastating forest fire, there is new life budding everywhere. The same goes for you. I would personally like to ask you to stay calm and try for new jobs. Most of the export houses would have their legal cells, so even if you take them to court, you will not be interrupting their day-to-day work, whereas you would be losing your time, effort, emotions, and money. Get up, stand up, and fight for a job by attending many interviews. Never badmouth your previous company, but I am sure you have learned a lesson. Stay strong, and you will shine in life.
Lots of love and lots of luck,
Ruby
From India, Mumbai
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Do not worry, if one door is closed, 10 doors are opened by Almighty, keep on trying your best. Maybe your next job is better than the present one.
"Aanye do tofaan gar aata hai, Mumkin hai, mojon mein bahta hoa sahil hi aa jaay."
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
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"Aanye do tofaan gar aata hai, Mumkin hai, mojon mein bahta hoa sahil hi aa jaay."
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Hi Rakesh,
I would like to remind you of something. In the recent past, one huge company has collapsed, and many of its employees had to leave without any choice, left in their hands. Some of them had families fully relying on their paychecks. They all moved on with life. Nothing is permanent, you see. Though it's natural to feel bad, life is all about ups and downs. Take it easy. Just look out for the right opportunity, read good books, and focus on positive thoughts.
All The Best,
Rashmi
From India, Madras
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I would like to remind you of something. In the recent past, one huge company has collapsed, and many of its employees had to leave without any choice, left in their hands. Some of them had families fully relying on their paychecks. They all moved on with life. Nothing is permanent, you see. Though it's natural to feel bad, life is all about ups and downs. Take it easy. Just look out for the right opportunity, read good books, and focus on positive thoughts.
All The Best,
Rashmi
From India, Madras
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