Dear Members of this Community,
Accept my heartiest greetings for the FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS and EID-AL-ZUHA.
How many of you consider and accept yourself as a LEADER or FOLLOWER?
If you are a LEADER, then I have a query for you. I shall be posting my query only after preparing a list of LEADERS from this community. I wish to share knowledge, have fun while sharing knowledge and learning new things. I am waiting desperately to hear from LEADERS........COME ON YOU LION(S)....
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1) Please be honest with yourself and others too while posting your comments/views/suggestions.
2) Please be precise and make use of valid examples supporting your suggestions/views/comments.
3) NO AGE/EXPERIENCE/QUALIFICATIONS BAR.
4) Let's not try to compete with others because the SUCCESS is between YOU & YOURSELF. Therefore, try your best to compete with yourself and break all the records.
5) Let's discuss rather than giving birth to ARGUMENTS.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
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294Accept my heartiest greetings for the FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS and EID-AL-ZUHA.
How many of you consider and accept yourself as a LEADER or FOLLOWER?
If you are a LEADER, then I have a query for you. I shall be posting my query only after preparing a list of LEADERS from this community. I wish to share knowledge, have fun while sharing knowledge and learning new things. I am waiting desperately to hear from LEADERS........COME ON YOU LION(S)....
NOTE:
1) Please be honest with yourself and others too while posting your comments/views/suggestions.
2) Please be precise and make use of valid examples supporting your suggestions/views/comments.
3) NO AGE/EXPERIENCE/QUALIFICATIONS BAR.
4) Let's not try to compete with others because the SUCCESS is between YOU & YOURSELF. Therefore, try your best to compete with yourself and break all the records.
5) Let's discuss rather than giving birth to ARGUMENTS.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
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I am a leader and always give practical suggestions. However, the members on this site really do not have the IQ to understand my answers. They simply become HR professionals by hook or by crook and spend their days in the office doing nothing. Anyways, you can ask me your question after making a list of all eligible leaders.
From India, Madras
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From India, Madras
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Hi,
I'm confused! (Corporate Experience)
I have not led anyone.
I have not followed anyone blindly. (Personal Experience)
I have led academic classes, freelanced trainings, and promotional events. Frankly speaking, I have never had the opportunity yet to lead a team or a cause; I am just entangled in my own web of life.
From Kuwait, Salmiya
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I'm confused! (Corporate Experience)
I have not led anyone.
I have not followed anyone blindly. (Personal Experience)
I have led academic classes, freelanced trainings, and promotional events. Frankly speaking, I have never had the opportunity yet to lead a team or a cause; I am just entangled in my own web of life.
From Kuwait, Salmiya
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Dear Deadsoul,
I would like to know your name. Honestly, I don't like addressing you as DEADSOUL. Even I too have problems in my life, but it doesn't mean that we need to declare ourselves as a DEADSOUL.
Secondly, please stop blaming anybody in this world. This is what I have learned recently. It is for sure that we cannot change this world, but definitely, we can change our habits. In turn, this will change our world. Everyone has their own world, and we are all connected by something or the other.
I am glad to know you as a LEADER. Welcome to the group of LEADERS. We will discuss more as I wish to learn as much as I can from you and other LEADERS as well. Good Luck.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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I would like to know your name. Honestly, I don't like addressing you as DEADSOUL. Even I too have problems in my life, but it doesn't mean that we need to declare ourselves as a DEADSOUL.
Secondly, please stop blaming anybody in this world. This is what I have learned recently. It is for sure that we cannot change this world, but definitely, we can change our habits. In turn, this will change our world. Everyone has their own world, and we are all connected by something or the other.
I am glad to know you as a LEADER. Welcome to the group of LEADERS. We will discuss more as I wish to learn as much as I can from you and other LEADERS as well. Good Luck.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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Dear Mr. Hussain,
Glad to know about your experiences. But, what do you consider yourself as: a LEADER or a FOLLOWER? LEADERS are either BORN, CREATED, or SELF-MADE. It all depends on your abilities, capabilities, skills, talents, and much more. I hope you understand yourself better, and there are people who should know you better than yourself. This is proven by the JOHARI WINDOW.
Please remember that whether you are a FOLLOWER or a LEADER, you embody one of these TWO PERSONALITIES. At times, we play both roles. Perhaps at some point in your life, you might have LED TEAMS, DIRECTED THEM, DELEGATED RESPONSIBILITIES, etc. Please reflect and let me know your thoughts on this. There is nothing wrong with projecting yourself as a LEADER; it could be the beginning of feeling like one. This is the process of CREATING A LEADER.
Good Luck.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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Glad to know about your experiences. But, what do you consider yourself as: a LEADER or a FOLLOWER? LEADERS are either BORN, CREATED, or SELF-MADE. It all depends on your abilities, capabilities, skills, talents, and much more. I hope you understand yourself better, and there are people who should know you better than yourself. This is proven by the JOHARI WINDOW.
Please remember that whether you are a FOLLOWER or a LEADER, you embody one of these TWO PERSONALITIES. At times, we play both roles. Perhaps at some point in your life, you might have LED TEAMS, DIRECTED THEM, DELEGATED RESPONSIBILITIES, etc. Please reflect and let me know your thoughts on this. There is nothing wrong with projecting yourself as a LEADER; it could be the beginning of feeling like one. This is the process of CREATING A LEADER.
Good Luck.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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Dear Khadir,
Who is a leader? Do all leaders need followers? Can managers be called leaders? Is being "a leader" an achievement or a way of life? Are leaders one level above followers? Why do people take pride in being called "a leader" rather than being a follower?
Thank you.
From Kuwait, Salmiya
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Who is a leader? Do all leaders need followers? Can managers be called leaders? Is being "a leader" an achievement or a way of life? Are leaders one level above followers? Why do people take pride in being called "a leader" rather than being a follower?
Thank you.
From Kuwait, Salmiya
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Actually, S. Khadir has asked an impractical question. In life, there is no end to learning new things. As you grow, you guide others, and as you follow others, you lead others.
So, the question of S. Khadir is wrong. All leaders are followers or were followers, which made them leaders. Similarly, all followers are or should be leaders for some others.
From India, Madras
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So, the question of S. Khadir is wrong. All leaders are followers or were followers, which made them leaders. Similarly, all followers are or should be leaders for some others.
From India, Madras
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Dear Mr. Hussain,
Excellent queries. Perhaps you might have read ARTICLES, BLOGS, BOOKS, or watched VIDEOS/MOVIES to understand LEADERSHIP and its associated TRAITS.
WHO IS A LEADER?
To start with, let's focus on the word LEADER. The basic meaning available on Google and in various dictionaries says:
1. One that LEADS or guides.
2. One who goes first and LEADS by example, so that others are MOTIVATED to FOLLOW HIM. This is a basic requirement to be a leader.
3. One who is in charge or in command of others.
Examples:
A) One who heads a political party or organization.
B) One who has influence or power, especially of a political nature.
Henceforth, a LEADER is a "UNIQUE PERSONALITY" and a "RARE BREED" who does unique things that we don't find in a common man.
LEADERS are Creative, Smart, Directive, Participative, Open/Broad-Minded, and much more; they can take any amount of risk to achieve their goals. At times, they don't even care to put their lives at STAKE.
Do all Leaders need followers?
As I said earlier, LEADERS are either BORN, CREATED, or SELF-MADE. All those who are CREATED and SELF-MADE definitely follow a GOOD LEADER as their MENTOR, COACH, or GURU. Though they may not reveal much about their GURU/LEADER, they know that they learned much from their LEADER/GURU directly or indirectly.
BORN LEADERS are inherited personalities. LEADERSHIP is in their BLOOD. They learn various things as they grow.
Can Managers be called leaders?
A MANAGER is a DESIGNATION that comes with certain RESPONSIBILITIES. They are given AUTHORITY as they need to manage various things. It is mandatory for one to have basic experience before taking up a MANAGERIAL POSITION.
LEADERSHIP is a TRAIT, a PERSONALITY. Not every MANAGER can be called a LEADER unless they embrace the QUALITIES OF A LEADER. In the sense, a) Did they succeed in making their team members FOLLOW them? b) Did they succeed in getting things done through their team members without commanding them to do anything? The LANGUAGE OF REQUEST works much better. c) Did they succeed in winning their hearts? d) Did they succeed in understanding the MENTALITY of their TEAM MEMBERS? e) Did they succeed in nurturing their TEAM MEMBERS to develop adequate skills/talents/competencies? f) Did they succeed in UNLEASHING their TEAM MEMBERS' HIDDEN TALENTS and promoting their TALENTS for various factors?
There is a lot more I can write, but this is just to explain and differentiate between a MANAGER and a LEADER.
No wonder we can call MANAGERS as LEADERS only if they possess LEADERSHIP SKILLS. A Manager can seek feedback from their TEAM MEMBERS to rate them and declare whether they are GOOD LEADERS or just MANAGERS.
Is being "A Leader" an achievement or a way of life?
This is purely associated with the kind of environment we are living in, proportional to whether we are BORN, CREATED, or SELF-MADE LEADERS.
We find LEADERS everywhere; it is not mandatory that they should be educated.
"It becomes an ACHIEVEMENT followed by WAY OF LIFE" or it can even be considered a "WAY OF LIFE where we have achieved by the virtue of our SKILLS/TALENTS/TRAITS(LEADERSHIP)."
Are Leaders one level above than followers?
Definitely, LEADERS are ONE LEVEL above FOLLOWERS. Followers learn many things practically from their LEADERS. They implement these learnings practically in their LIVES, and one fine day, based on their ability, courage, facts, they start demonstrating their LEADERSHIP SKILLS; thus, it's an ACHIEVEMENT as they have transformed into a LEADER. This is also known as TRANSFORMATIONAL LEADERSHIP.
Also, note a point... There may be a group of people who trust a personality and support the same individual to become a LEADER. There are various reasons supporting them to qualify to become a LEADER. This is an example of "CREATED LEADERS."
Why do people take pride in being called "A Leader" rather than being a follower?
1) I am sorry, I don't promote this factor. I don't think it's a healthy sign for a LEADER to take pride in calling themselves a LEADER. Yes, it's an EGO FACTOR, being SUPERIOR/LEADER, and much more. I would prefer if they can challenge to demonstrate their LEADERSHIP rather than being proud of what they are. In fact, their FOLLOWERS should be PROUD OF WHAT THEY ARE.
2) ACHIEVEMENTS OF LEADERS should never be associated with PRIDE/PROUD FACTORS. They can be celebrated positively.
3) Whether we are a LEADER or a FOLLOWER, why should we consider PRIDE/PROUD FACTORS?
4) EXPERIENCE plays a VITAL ROLE in becoming a MATURED LEADER. A GOOD/TRUE/MATURED/EXPERIENCED LEADER will never take UNDUE ADVANTAGE of situations/circumstances unless it is deemed necessary, again based on SITUATIONS/CIRCUMSTANCES, for getting certain things done POSITIVELY without causing harm to any individual.
I hope I have clarified your queries. I have just shared my knowledge, and I am not a BORN GENIUS. If you have any queries left behind, please feel free to ask.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
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Excellent queries. Perhaps you might have read ARTICLES, BLOGS, BOOKS, or watched VIDEOS/MOVIES to understand LEADERSHIP and its associated TRAITS.
WHO IS A LEADER?
To start with, let's focus on the word LEADER. The basic meaning available on Google and in various dictionaries says:
1. One that LEADS or guides.
2. One who goes first and LEADS by example, so that others are MOTIVATED to FOLLOW HIM. This is a basic requirement to be a leader.
3. One who is in charge or in command of others.
Examples:
A) One who heads a political party or organization.
B) One who has influence or power, especially of a political nature.
Henceforth, a LEADER is a "UNIQUE PERSONALITY" and a "RARE BREED" who does unique things that we don't find in a common man.
LEADERS are Creative, Smart, Directive, Participative, Open/Broad-Minded, and much more; they can take any amount of risk to achieve their goals. At times, they don't even care to put their lives at STAKE.
Do all Leaders need followers?
As I said earlier, LEADERS are either BORN, CREATED, or SELF-MADE. All those who are CREATED and SELF-MADE definitely follow a GOOD LEADER as their MENTOR, COACH, or GURU. Though they may not reveal much about their GURU/LEADER, they know that they learned much from their LEADER/GURU directly or indirectly.
BORN LEADERS are inherited personalities. LEADERSHIP is in their BLOOD. They learn various things as they grow.
Can Managers be called leaders?
A MANAGER is a DESIGNATION that comes with certain RESPONSIBILITIES. They are given AUTHORITY as they need to manage various things. It is mandatory for one to have basic experience before taking up a MANAGERIAL POSITION.
LEADERSHIP is a TRAIT, a PERSONALITY. Not every MANAGER can be called a LEADER unless they embrace the QUALITIES OF A LEADER. In the sense, a) Did they succeed in making their team members FOLLOW them? b) Did they succeed in getting things done through their team members without commanding them to do anything? The LANGUAGE OF REQUEST works much better. c) Did they succeed in winning their hearts? d) Did they succeed in understanding the MENTALITY of their TEAM MEMBERS? e) Did they succeed in nurturing their TEAM MEMBERS to develop adequate skills/talents/competencies? f) Did they succeed in UNLEASHING their TEAM MEMBERS' HIDDEN TALENTS and promoting their TALENTS for various factors?
There is a lot more I can write, but this is just to explain and differentiate between a MANAGER and a LEADER.
No wonder we can call MANAGERS as LEADERS only if they possess LEADERSHIP SKILLS. A Manager can seek feedback from their TEAM MEMBERS to rate them and declare whether they are GOOD LEADERS or just MANAGERS.
Is being "A Leader" an achievement or a way of life?
This is purely associated with the kind of environment we are living in, proportional to whether we are BORN, CREATED, or SELF-MADE LEADERS.
We find LEADERS everywhere; it is not mandatory that they should be educated.
"It becomes an ACHIEVEMENT followed by WAY OF LIFE" or it can even be considered a "WAY OF LIFE where we have achieved by the virtue of our SKILLS/TALENTS/TRAITS(LEADERSHIP)."
Are Leaders one level above than followers?
Definitely, LEADERS are ONE LEVEL above FOLLOWERS. Followers learn many things practically from their LEADERS. They implement these learnings practically in their LIVES, and one fine day, based on their ability, courage, facts, they start demonstrating their LEADERSHIP SKILLS; thus, it's an ACHIEVEMENT as they have transformed into a LEADER. This is also known as TRANSFORMATIONAL LEADERSHIP.
Also, note a point... There may be a group of people who trust a personality and support the same individual to become a LEADER. There are various reasons supporting them to qualify to become a LEADER. This is an example of "CREATED LEADERS."
Why do people take pride in being called "A Leader" rather than being a follower?
1) I am sorry, I don't promote this factor. I don't think it's a healthy sign for a LEADER to take pride in calling themselves a LEADER. Yes, it's an EGO FACTOR, being SUPERIOR/LEADER, and much more. I would prefer if they can challenge to demonstrate their LEADERSHIP rather than being proud of what they are. In fact, their FOLLOWERS should be PROUD OF WHAT THEY ARE.
2) ACHIEVEMENTS OF LEADERS should never be associated with PRIDE/PROUD FACTORS. They can be celebrated positively.
3) Whether we are a LEADER or a FOLLOWER, why should we consider PRIDE/PROUD FACTORS?
4) EXPERIENCE plays a VITAL ROLE in becoming a MATURED LEADER. A GOOD/TRUE/MATURED/EXPERIENCED LEADER will never take UNDUE ADVANTAGE of situations/circumstances unless it is deemed necessary, again based on SITUATIONS/CIRCUMSTANCES, for getting certain things done POSITIVELY without causing harm to any individual.
I hope I have clarified your queries. I have just shared my knowledge, and I am not a BORN GENIUS. If you have any queries left behind, please feel free to ask.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
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Dear Deadsoul,
I would be glad if you can teach me something which I haven't learned. I don't know what is "wrong" and what is "right." While posting your reply, please take care of punctuation so that you can help us to INTERPRETATE and PERCEIVE the way you intended to deliver the message. Please try your best to solve/sort our MISUNDERSTANDINGS else we can never have EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION.
Please share your knowledge. Please go through my reply addressing Mr. Hussain's queries. If you have any doubts/queries, please feel free to revert. Let's discuss something that would help us to learn more and implement the same in our lives.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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I would be glad if you can teach me something which I haven't learned. I don't know what is "wrong" and what is "right." While posting your reply, please take care of punctuation so that you can help us to INTERPRETATE and PERCEIVE the way you intended to deliver the message. Please try your best to solve/sort our MISUNDERSTANDINGS else we can never have EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION.
Please share your knowledge. Please go through my reply addressing Mr. Hussain's queries. If you have any doubts/queries, please feel free to revert. Let's discuss something that would help us to learn more and implement the same in our lives.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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Dear Mr. S.A Khadir,
Greetings. Thank you for your wishes on the eve of the 'Festival of Lights' and my wishes to you on the EID-AL-ZUHA. I wish to take part in your attempt to engage in a meaningful discussion along with other members. As leaders are good readers, a good leader has to be a good follower of what he reads from his sources, which can be books, experiences gained in life, or business, etc. I need a little time to define myself for your question. Let me join you after the festival season.
Regards, AVS
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Greetings. Thank you for your wishes on the eve of the 'Festival of Lights' and my wishes to you on the EID-AL-ZUHA. I wish to take part in your attempt to engage in a meaningful discussion along with other members. As leaders are good readers, a good leader has to be a good follower of what he reads from his sources, which can be books, experiences gained in life, or business, etc. I need a little time to define myself for your question. Let me join you after the festival season.
Regards, AVS
From India, Madras
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Dear Mr. AVS,
I am really grateful to you for replying to my thread. Please take your time and do enjoy your festival while keeping in mind all "SAFETY PROCEDURES BEFORE YOU IGNITE CRACKERS". Kindly feel free to invite your friends if they are members of this community.
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From India, Chennai
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I am really grateful to you for replying to my thread. Please take your time and do enjoy your festival while keeping in mind all "SAFETY PROCEDURES BEFORE YOU IGNITE CRACKERS". Kindly feel free to invite your friends if they are members of this community.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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Dear Mr. Khadir,
Thank you for your wishes on the eve of Deepavali for all of our members. We also wish you on the eve of Eid Ul Zuha.
Please accept my sincere thanks for initiating such a debatable subject.
Wherever the situation warrants our leadership, we must take the lead and keep the team moving forward towards the success of the task. If someone leads our team, then we must follow the instructions of our leader, as there must be one head and brain to keep the entire body in control. If there are two or more leaders leading them, then it will be like keeping a leg on two boats while journeying on water.
As a matter of fact, one good follower can lead the team and become a good leader in the future. Any good leader can become a good follower and adopt the systems of good leadership. Even in the army, the senior will lead the team, and all others have to follow the commands given by the leader. The second and last level leaders will disseminate the instructions passed by the top-level leaders to their team and ensure that their team is strictly following the instructions passed by the top-level leader. Only then can the success of any team be ensured.
From India, Kumbakonam
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Thank you for your wishes on the eve of Deepavali for all of our members. We also wish you on the eve of Eid Ul Zuha.
Please accept my sincere thanks for initiating such a debatable subject.
Wherever the situation warrants our leadership, we must take the lead and keep the team moving forward towards the success of the task. If someone leads our team, then we must follow the instructions of our leader, as there must be one head and brain to keep the entire body in control. If there are two or more leaders leading them, then it will be like keeping a leg on two boats while journeying on water.
As a matter of fact, one good follower can lead the team and become a good leader in the future. Any good leader can become a good follower and adopt the systems of good leadership. Even in the army, the senior will lead the team, and all others have to follow the commands given by the leader. The second and last level leaders will disseminate the instructions passed by the top-level leaders to their team and ensure that their team is strictly following the instructions passed by the top-level leader. Only then can the success of any team be ensured.
From India, Kumbakonam
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Dear SHAIK ABDUL KHADIR
Thanks for Wishes.... My Hearty wishes for EID-AL-ZUHA Leaders do not command excellence, they build excellence. Excellence is “being all you can be” within the bounds of doing what is right for your organization. To reach excellence you must first be a leader of good character. You must do everything you are supposed to do. Organizations will not achieve excellence by figuring out where it wants to go, then having leaders do whatever they have to in order to get the job done, and then hope their leaders acted with good character. This type of thinking is backwards. Pursuing excellence should not be confused with accomplishing a job or task. When you do planning, you do it by backwards planning. But you do not achieve excellence by backwards planning. Excellence starts with leaders of good and strong character who engage in the entire process of leadership. And the first process is being a person of honorable character. . Interesting & Initiative Post thanks for sharing it here.....
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Ramkishore
From India, Bangalore
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Thanks for Wishes.... My Hearty wishes for EID-AL-ZUHA Leaders do not command excellence, they build excellence. Excellence is “being all you can be” within the bounds of doing what is right for your organization. To reach excellence you must first be a leader of good character. You must do everything you are supposed to do. Organizations will not achieve excellence by figuring out where it wants to go, then having leaders do whatever they have to in order to get the job done, and then hope their leaders acted with good character. This type of thinking is backwards. Pursuing excellence should not be confused with accomplishing a job or task. When you do planning, you do it by backwards planning. But you do not achieve excellence by backwards planning. Excellence starts with leaders of good and strong character who engage in the entire process of leadership. And the first process is being a person of honorable character. . Interesting & Initiative Post thanks for sharing it here.....
Regards,
Ramkishore
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Dear Mr. Bhaskar,
Thank you for your wishes and for sharing wonderful information.
After much thought and considering practical issues at the workplace, I wanted to clarify certain things with various members of this forum. However, I realized that to obtain specific information, one must either be a LEADER or a FOLLOWER, as my query pertains to LEADERSHIP SKILLS.
I am anticipating more responses from members (mid-level/senior/experienced) as I have observed many sharing their perspectives in different threads.
Let's continue moving forward.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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Thank you for your wishes and for sharing wonderful information.
After much thought and considering practical issues at the workplace, I wanted to clarify certain things with various members of this forum. However, I realized that to obtain specific information, one must either be a LEADER or a FOLLOWER, as my query pertains to LEADERSHIP SKILLS.
I am anticipating more responses from members (mid-level/senior/experienced) as I have observed many sharing their perspectives in different threads.
Let's continue moving forward.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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Dear Mr. Ramkishore I appreciate your reply and love to learn more. Will post my query once i gather atleast 10-15 LEADERS from the community. With profound regards
From India, Chennai
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From India, Chennai
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Dear Khadir,
Thank you for initiating this discussion. I had a cursory glance at the replies.
Basically, leadership starts with leading oneself. If you cannot lead yourself, then you cannot lead others as well.
Leading oneself means choosing the right direction. This is much easier said than done. Leadership requires having a vision. But more than vision, what matters is choosing the right direction. What is the use of having a vision if the choice of direction was wrong? A wrong choice of direction will take you to the wrong destination, and when leaders realize this, it is too late.
Leading oneself means being proactive. One should ask the question, "What am I doing - is this my action or reaction?" One who is in a reactive mode constantly will never be able to lead others.
Leading oneself means staying motivated too. If you are not motivated, how can you motivate others? How can any machine or instrument run on a discharged battery?
While leading oneself, one has to be a follower also. One should follow values. Secondly, a leader should follow some great personalities like Socrates or Aristotle. When a crisis comes, a leader should ask oneself, if "---" were to face this crisis, how he/she would have responded? This gives the solution to many of the complex problems.
We can go on writing; however, there is a limit to typing and time too. Anyhow, I have written what I felt was right.
Ok...
Dinesh V. Divekar
From India, Bangalore
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Thank you for initiating this discussion. I had a cursory glance at the replies.
Basically, leadership starts with leading oneself. If you cannot lead yourself, then you cannot lead others as well.
Leading oneself means choosing the right direction. This is much easier said than done. Leadership requires having a vision. But more than vision, what matters is choosing the right direction. What is the use of having a vision if the choice of direction was wrong? A wrong choice of direction will take you to the wrong destination, and when leaders realize this, it is too late.
Leading oneself means being proactive. One should ask the question, "What am I doing - is this my action or reaction?" One who is in a reactive mode constantly will never be able to lead others.
Leading oneself means staying motivated too. If you are not motivated, how can you motivate others? How can any machine or instrument run on a discharged battery?
While leading oneself, one has to be a follower also. One should follow values. Secondly, a leader should follow some great personalities like Socrates or Aristotle. When a crisis comes, a leader should ask oneself, if "---" were to face this crisis, how he/she would have responded? This gives the solution to many of the complex problems.
We can go on writing; however, there is a limit to typing and time too. Anyhow, I have written what I felt was right.
Ok...
Dinesh V. Divekar
From India, Bangalore
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Dear Sir,
Your reply has hit the bull's eye, and it's a JACKPOT for me. In fact, it's worth a BILLION DOLLARS.
I was desperately waiting to hear from you. Henceforth, I limited myself from providing information pertaining to my thread. What's the great point if a DIRECTOR himself starts playing the ROLE of an ACTOR? Though I have learned many things in my life practically, I still believe I have more to learn from others.
I was inspired by various posts posted on LINKEDIN. I thought of posting a practical query seeking inputs from various members of this community. Hope to hear more from other members of this forum too. I wonder where they might have gone.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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Your reply has hit the bull's eye, and it's a JACKPOT for me. In fact, it's worth a BILLION DOLLARS.
I was desperately waiting to hear from you. Henceforth, I limited myself from providing information pertaining to my thread. What's the great point if a DIRECTOR himself starts playing the ROLE of an ACTOR? Though I have learned many things in my life practically, I still believe I have more to learn from others.
I was inspired by various posts posted on LINKEDIN. I thought of posting a practical query seeking inputs from various members of this community. Hope to hear more from other members of this forum too. I wonder where they might have gone.
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Good article about leadership. Thanks for sharing. Keep sharing.
Being a leader or follower is not a big deal; the main thing is that if he/she is a leader, they should know the meaning of listening, patience, being down to earth, and being ready to help at any time. If he/she is a follower, then they should again be good listeners, have patience to acquire knowledge from others at any cost, and be ready to learn things without any hesitation. :)
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Being a leader or follower is not a big deal; the main thing is that if he/she is a leader, they should know the meaning of listening, patience, being down to earth, and being ready to help at any time. If he/she is a follower, then they should again be good listeners, have patience to acquire knowledge from others at any cost, and be ready to learn things without any hesitation. :)
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Kadhir saab pls ask question for kaun banega crorepati I mean ur million dollar question nw u hav many leaders in this forum
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Dear Deadsoul,
The picture abhi shuru huwa hai, mere dost... Have patience. Let's learn something before we go ahead with my query. I may find the answer in future replies. Let's resume after DIWALI as it's a FESTIVAL TIME. Let members enjoy their festival.
I don't know how members are going to perceive my query, but it's something that is found in very few employees as it's a rare habit. We will discuss more within a couple of days. Till then, let's promote this thread and invite other members to post their queries.
115 views and only 6 members have posted their views. This is what my analysis says. There are instances of threads that have run for more than 20 PAGES. I am still expecting active members to post their comments/views/suggestions and share knowledge/practical experiences. Allow this thread to breathe as much as it can.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
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The picture abhi shuru huwa hai, mere dost... Have patience. Let's learn something before we go ahead with my query. I may find the answer in future replies. Let's resume after DIWALI as it's a FESTIVAL TIME. Let members enjoy their festival.
I don't know how members are going to perceive my query, but it's something that is found in very few employees as it's a rare habit. We will discuss more within a couple of days. Till then, let's promote this thread and invite other members to post their queries.
115 views and only 6 members have posted their views. This is what my analysis says. There are instances of threads that have run for more than 20 PAGES. I am still expecting active members to post their comments/views/suggestions and share knowledge/practical experiences. Allow this thread to breathe as much as it can.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
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Hi Abdul Khadir,
I totally agree with you; a leader always thinks ahead and never underestimates anyone, nor blames before looking into himself/herself. I am a follower making my way as a leader, and I would never use a user ID like DEADSOUL; it is so depressing.
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Raghu
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I totally agree with you; a leader always thinks ahead and never underestimates anyone, nor blames before looking into himself/herself. I am a follower making my way as a leader, and I would never use a user ID like DEADSOUL; it is so depressing.
Regards,
Raghu
From United Kingdom, Feltham
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Dear Mr. Raghu,
We are glad to know you as a "FOLLOWER". We hope that one fine day, you will transform yourself into a LEADER. Until then, let's keep sharing our knowledge and remain POSITIVE all the time.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
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We are glad to know you as a "FOLLOWER". We hope that one fine day, you will transform yourself into a LEADER. Until then, let's keep sharing our knowledge and remain POSITIVE all the time.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
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i would like to check my self if i’m a leader of a follower, but hw? i’m ready to be in LEADERS community hopefully :)
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Dear Ms. Margaret Valentina,
Spend time to study and understand yourself. This includes your personal and professional life. Allow others to give feedback about your personality, abilities, capabilities, behavior, attitude, strengths, weaknesses, etc. Seek inputs from your parents and family members to understand where you stand in your personal life and how successful you are in maintaining personal relationships.
Once you obtain relevant information, correlate it with your workplace skills. Ask yourself:
- Are you able to manage yourself better?
- Are you in a position to deliver your responsibilities on time?
- Are you able to coordinate with your peers and superiors?
- Are you able to lead your team?
- Are you able to guide or provide the best input to your peers, coworkers, and superiors?
As part of relationship management, reflect on how well you maintain professional relationships in the workplace. If you are following someone, consider to what extent you are benefiting in learning things that support your professional and personal life.
If you aspire to be part of a leaders' community, contribute your knowledge and seek to learn from others.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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Spend time to study and understand yourself. This includes your personal and professional life. Allow others to give feedback about your personality, abilities, capabilities, behavior, attitude, strengths, weaknesses, etc. Seek inputs from your parents and family members to understand where you stand in your personal life and how successful you are in maintaining personal relationships.
Once you obtain relevant information, correlate it with your workplace skills. Ask yourself:
- Are you able to manage yourself better?
- Are you in a position to deliver your responsibilities on time?
- Are you able to coordinate with your peers and superiors?
- Are you able to lead your team?
- Are you able to guide or provide the best input to your peers, coworkers, and superiors?
As part of relationship management, reflect on how well you maintain professional relationships in the workplace. If you are following someone, consider to what extent you are benefiting in learning things that support your professional and personal life.
If you aspire to be part of a leaders' community, contribute your knowledge and seek to learn from others.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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Hi Mr Khadir and Readers
Your Post lay a lot of Emphasis in being a leader. You are very much in a favour of being a leader and encouraging leadership. Some fantastic definition, explanation, discussion took place on this thread.
Most of the posters wants to be in a leader category, barring few who admitted that they are followers and leaders both.
What I feel is; the definition, explanation of an Ideal Leader is really good, but very theoritical and looks good in Books only. Rarely we see people become leaders as defined or explained here.
In practical world or in reality, leaders are more manipulative, cunning, shrewd and opportunistic. Be it any circle of life, professional or personal.
Another observation I have is; too soon too early people wants to become leaders, they shy away from becoming followers or be labeled as followers. Except in religious matters (As it involves hardwork, dedication, discipline etc) Although this are required in all other areas of life to qualify as a good leader.
My observation remains around social and professional circles, there is an invisible race amongst peers and colleagues to empower each other psychologically. Expressing leadership qualities to profess superiority over others, to be one level above amongst equals.
Essence of true leadership and fellowship is lost in power struggle, end result what we see is, all leaders and no followers. Everyone thumping down their own ideas, agendas and opinions.
One example according to my maturity is “India’s Political Leadership Scenario” Everyone wants to become leader of the highest order, bask in all the glory and power enjoyed by the leader, but lack the very qualities of a leader defined at this forum.
In today’s times leadership is about, yelling out loud own ideologies, oppressing any disagreement, abuse of respect and trust. Bloat in pride and arrogance, mislead followers, flow with the masses opinions (even if its unethical). What we see today is half baked leaders.
This very idea of glorifying leaders makes us greedy to become one. We don’t respect followers, leaders blinded by the power dont respect followers and their faith. Thus encouraging followers to yearn for leadership; too soon , too early.
I do understand my post is pessimistic in nature, but that is the sad truth.
Thanks for reading
From Kuwait, Salmiya
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Your Post lay a lot of Emphasis in being a leader. You are very much in a favour of being a leader and encouraging leadership. Some fantastic definition, explanation, discussion took place on this thread.
Most of the posters wants to be in a leader category, barring few who admitted that they are followers and leaders both.
What I feel is; the definition, explanation of an Ideal Leader is really good, but very theoritical and looks good in Books only. Rarely we see people become leaders as defined or explained here.
In practical world or in reality, leaders are more manipulative, cunning, shrewd and opportunistic. Be it any circle of life, professional or personal.
Another observation I have is; too soon too early people wants to become leaders, they shy away from becoming followers or be labeled as followers. Except in religious matters (As it involves hardwork, dedication, discipline etc) Although this are required in all other areas of life to qualify as a good leader.
My observation remains around social and professional circles, there is an invisible race amongst peers and colleagues to empower each other psychologically. Expressing leadership qualities to profess superiority over others, to be one level above amongst equals.
Essence of true leadership and fellowship is lost in power struggle, end result what we see is, all leaders and no followers. Everyone thumping down their own ideas, agendas and opinions.
One example according to my maturity is “India’s Political Leadership Scenario” Everyone wants to become leader of the highest order, bask in all the glory and power enjoyed by the leader, but lack the very qualities of a leader defined at this forum.
In today’s times leadership is about, yelling out loud own ideologies, oppressing any disagreement, abuse of respect and trust. Bloat in pride and arrogance, mislead followers, flow with the masses opinions (even if its unethical). What we see today is half baked leaders.
This very idea of glorifying leaders makes us greedy to become one. We don’t respect followers, leaders blinded by the power dont respect followers and their faith. Thus encouraging followers to yearn for leadership; too soon , too early.
I do understand my post is pessimistic in nature, but that is the sad truth.
Thanks for reading
From Kuwait, Salmiya
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Dear Mr. Hussain,
At the outset, i appreciate your reply. Can you just let me know, what made you to come out with excellent points worth to be appreciated? Please do respond as i am desperate to hear from you.
I replied to Mr. Dinesh Divekar's post stating that "If the DIRECTOR itself executes the ROLE OF A ACTOR, then, there won't be difference between DIRECTOR and ACTOR". I want to hear more and more, let it be a single or multiple members. Only then we are going to understand FACTS/TRUTH, let it be SAD or BITTER.
To be honest, this thread is PLANNED ACTIVITY of mine. I am working on it past 3 WEEKS. I am proceeding as per my plan, hence, i am able to draw members ATTENTION and have succeeded in making them respond, proportionately.
Coming back to our discussions......You have pointed various "TYPES OF LEADERS". Leaders do have their own TRAITS to be demonstrated proportionate to the SITUATION/CIRCUMSTANCES. I love your example "India’s Political Leadership". It is the BEST EXAMPLE for "DICTATOR LEADERSHIP" as our government is trying to get things done as per their WILL & WISH. DIRTY POLITICAL POWER never gave birth to GOOD/HONEST/SINCERE/KIND/POLITE/DEDICATED/TRUST WORTHY LEADERS, infact DIRTY POLITICS had KILLED GOOD/HONEST/SINCERE/KIND/POLITE/DEDICATED/TRUST WORTHY LEADERS as there was NO SCOPE FOR GOOD THINGS TO BREATH(IMPLEMENT/PRACTICE/PROMOTE). If you find DIRTY POLITICS in ORGANISATIONS, the same thing is bound to happen.
On the other hand, we should also study the LEADERSHIP STYLES pertaining to MR. NARAYAN MURTY, FOUNDER CHAIRMAN-INFOSYS, MR. RATAN TATA, CHAIRMAN-TATA GROUP OF COMPANIES, MR. BILL GATES, CEO-MICROSOFT etc. The best part is study our own MANAGEMENT @ WORKPLACE. We will find answers to all our queries.
I support your observation as you right said "Everyone wants to become leader of the highest order, bask in all the glory and power enjoyed by the leader"..For your kind information, you will find HONEST LEADERS who doesn't PROMOTE themselves nor they want to enjoy anything except DOING/OFFERING THEIR BEST IN FAVOUR OF THEIR FOLLOWERS. They are none other than "EDUCATIONAL PROFESSIONALS - TEACHERS". Thousands of students still follow GOOD ETHICS/PRINCIPLES OF LIFE, as learned from their TEACHER(S)/GURU. We may follow more than one GURU/LEADER.
Its all about LEADERSHIP and a FOLLOWER. You haven't defined what you are. Forget about the world as i don't to become what they are. I have got my own world and i am LEADING it at the same time following my LEADERS too.
Except ALMIGHTY none is perfect in this world. i.e. THERE IS NO PERFECT LEADER, may be, there are BEST LEADERS.
Awaiting to hear from you desperately. Share as much knowledge(when information is positively utilized it becomes knowledge) as you can.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
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At the outset, i appreciate your reply. Can you just let me know, what made you to come out with excellent points worth to be appreciated? Please do respond as i am desperate to hear from you.
I replied to Mr. Dinesh Divekar's post stating that "If the DIRECTOR itself executes the ROLE OF A ACTOR, then, there won't be difference between DIRECTOR and ACTOR". I want to hear more and more, let it be a single or multiple members. Only then we are going to understand FACTS/TRUTH, let it be SAD or BITTER.
To be honest, this thread is PLANNED ACTIVITY of mine. I am working on it past 3 WEEKS. I am proceeding as per my plan, hence, i am able to draw members ATTENTION and have succeeded in making them respond, proportionately.
Coming back to our discussions......You have pointed various "TYPES OF LEADERS". Leaders do have their own TRAITS to be demonstrated proportionate to the SITUATION/CIRCUMSTANCES. I love your example "India’s Political Leadership". It is the BEST EXAMPLE for "DICTATOR LEADERSHIP" as our government is trying to get things done as per their WILL & WISH. DIRTY POLITICAL POWER never gave birth to GOOD/HONEST/SINCERE/KIND/POLITE/DEDICATED/TRUST WORTHY LEADERS, infact DIRTY POLITICS had KILLED GOOD/HONEST/SINCERE/KIND/POLITE/DEDICATED/TRUST WORTHY LEADERS as there was NO SCOPE FOR GOOD THINGS TO BREATH(IMPLEMENT/PRACTICE/PROMOTE). If you find DIRTY POLITICS in ORGANISATIONS, the same thing is bound to happen.
On the other hand, we should also study the LEADERSHIP STYLES pertaining to MR. NARAYAN MURTY, FOUNDER CHAIRMAN-INFOSYS, MR. RATAN TATA, CHAIRMAN-TATA GROUP OF COMPANIES, MR. BILL GATES, CEO-MICROSOFT etc. The best part is study our own MANAGEMENT @ WORKPLACE. We will find answers to all our queries.
I support your observation as you right said "Everyone wants to become leader of the highest order, bask in all the glory and power enjoyed by the leader"..For your kind information, you will find HONEST LEADERS who doesn't PROMOTE themselves nor they want to enjoy anything except DOING/OFFERING THEIR BEST IN FAVOUR OF THEIR FOLLOWERS. They are none other than "EDUCATIONAL PROFESSIONALS - TEACHERS". Thousands of students still follow GOOD ETHICS/PRINCIPLES OF LIFE, as learned from their TEACHER(S)/GURU. We may follow more than one GURU/LEADER.
Its all about LEADERSHIP and a FOLLOWER. You haven't defined what you are. Forget about the world as i don't to become what they are. I have got my own world and i am LEADING it at the same time following my LEADERS too.
Except ALMIGHTY none is perfect in this world. i.e. THERE IS NO PERFECT LEADER, may be, there are BEST LEADERS.
Awaiting to hear from you desperately. Share as much knowledge(when information is positively utilized it becomes knowledge) as you can.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
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Mr Khadir
Thanks for your appreciation !
What makes me put forward this opinions ?
I observe people around, including this forum, majority of replies claim to be leaders. I ask in interviews and I get flowery fantastic answer how the candidate is a true leader, on systematic and clever questioning they tumble down .
During my work experience, I see there is a race to become a leader, even though not on paper but to seek psychological dominance.
By observing that, how leaders are glorified, praised, pampered and followers are used, manipulated, oppressed. I do understand this are traits of corrupt leaders, however leadership bring power and power corrupts the leader.
You mentioned about some famous names : Mr Murthy, Mr Gates and likes.
There are definately true leaders in this world, the breed of true leaders is very rare. Not necessarily they have to be famous, we find them in unexpected areas. Just an exception to your example of Mr Gates, I consider him an impressive management expert rather than a true leader. As his antics to become rich, famous and innovative is well known.
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We believe that we are leaders, but may be we are mistaken, may be we are good at management but not leadership. And we misunderstand our management skills to be that of leadership.
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About Myself :
I used to be a leader (I matched some qualities of leadership mentioned at this forum)
Now Im a Follower ! Observer ! Listener !
Why so ?
I don’t know why ? lack of opportunity or lack of assertiveness ?
From Kuwait, Salmiya
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Thanks for your appreciation !
What makes me put forward this opinions ?
I observe people around, including this forum, majority of replies claim to be leaders. I ask in interviews and I get flowery fantastic answer how the candidate is a true leader, on systematic and clever questioning they tumble down .
During my work experience, I see there is a race to become a leader, even though not on paper but to seek psychological dominance.
By observing that, how leaders are glorified, praised, pampered and followers are used, manipulated, oppressed. I do understand this are traits of corrupt leaders, however leadership bring power and power corrupts the leader.
You mentioned about some famous names : Mr Murthy, Mr Gates and likes.
There are definately true leaders in this world, the breed of true leaders is very rare. Not necessarily they have to be famous, we find them in unexpected areas. Just an exception to your example of Mr Gates, I consider him an impressive management expert rather than a true leader. As his antics to become rich, famous and innovative is well known.
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We believe that we are leaders, but may be we are mistaken, may be we are good at management but not leadership. And we misunderstand our management skills to be that of leadership.
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About Myself :
I used to be a leader (I matched some qualities of leadership mentioned at this forum)
Now Im a Follower ! Observer ! Listener !
Why so ?
I don’t know why ? lack of opportunity or lack of assertiveness ?
From Kuwait, Salmiya
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Dear Mr. Hussain,
It's a wonderful discussion, and I believe that we are sharing practical information. This is helping me to understand human psychology as I love studying the same.
There is nothing wrong with trying to be a leader, as long as we don't manage to get things done through our impractical whims and fancies. There are tons of examples of leaders who tried to get things done by hook or crook, using a dictatorship style. Even today, I come across such leaders. Here, ethics are missing, and there are no human values. I don't even like to suggest anyone become a leader just for acquiring power and wealth.
If you want to be a leader, be for a good cause and make people talk about you for the good things you have done. This is what I love to do, as I promote the same. Many have mistaken that leaders only lead and love to get things. But true, good, and ethical leaders are part of the whole process as they share everything equally. This is my observation.
The main aspects of a leader are:
1) To lead/guide himself and his followers in the right direction.
2) To have a positive mental and physical attitude.
3) Should be a great example of a "down-to-earth personality" while demonstrating the disadvantages of ego.
4) To be a perfect planner, keeping in mind future trends.
5) To help develop better skills, talents, and competencies through mentoring and coaching strategies.
6) To help become a successful person in personal and professional life.
7) To take control of everything while still being participative and directive.
8) To give top priority to ethics and human values/relationships.
9) To motivate positively for a positive outcome while still being ethical, to show empathy, and to share pain, sadness, loss, etc.
10) To help followers conquer their weaknesses and convert them into strengths.
11) To help develop self-esteem.
12) When things go wrong or unexpected/unfavorable situations arise, a true leader will stand by, whatever may happen to him, and he will never let himself or his followers down. He may prefer to die, but he will work in favor of his followers and will succeed in safeguarding them.
As I said in my earlier post, none is a perfect leader. At times, they may go wrong, and they learn from their mistakes. After a long successful journey, Mr. Bill Gates is now working on charity, which he never did before. He has succeeded in making his team work for whatever he wanted to create. He is a successful management expert as he knows about compensating an employee for his hard work, and at the same time, he is a leader as he wanted to achieve whatever you had mentioned in your post.
Such a race for leadership exists only in professional circles but not in personal circles. I hope you will agree with my observation.
I have understood true leadership, and I am implementing it in my professional circle. I don't know to what extent it is being noticed, but still, I am trying my best to make people understand its importance in our professional and personal life. I am trying to find out something related to professional life associated with workplace skills as to how true leaders inculcate this rare habit, which I have found in very few employees. I am sure it is inborn. I have realized that only a true, good, unselfish leader has succeeded in inculcating this habit in employees because of inspiration.
When you know that you were a true leader, try promoting it for a good cause. The best way you can do is give suggestions, share your ideas irrespective of their effective utilization, by those with whom you have shared. Again, there is no harm in declaring yourself as a leader, but you can promote your good leadership skills. For sure, this will project you as a true leader. There is nothing wrong with promoting the good skills you possess or are blessed with. Also, we don't need authority, powers, or opportunities to prove our good/effective leadership skills. Simply march ahead and believe in doing and promoting good always.
When you are a good follower, observer, and listener, you are definitely assertive but not aggressive or passive/submissive. No doubt you are a true leader because I am sure someone will be following the good side of yours.
I agree that true, good, ethical leadership skills are missing in management professionals, hence most employees are facing various issues at the workplace.
Welcome to the group of true, good, ethical leaders. Let's promote the same, and I am there to support you, buddy. True leaders never give up, buddy.
Good luck and keep sharing, as we have to learn good things always.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
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It's a wonderful discussion, and I believe that we are sharing practical information. This is helping me to understand human psychology as I love studying the same.
There is nothing wrong with trying to be a leader, as long as we don't manage to get things done through our impractical whims and fancies. There are tons of examples of leaders who tried to get things done by hook or crook, using a dictatorship style. Even today, I come across such leaders. Here, ethics are missing, and there are no human values. I don't even like to suggest anyone become a leader just for acquiring power and wealth.
If you want to be a leader, be for a good cause and make people talk about you for the good things you have done. This is what I love to do, as I promote the same. Many have mistaken that leaders only lead and love to get things. But true, good, and ethical leaders are part of the whole process as they share everything equally. This is my observation.
The main aspects of a leader are:
1) To lead/guide himself and his followers in the right direction.
2) To have a positive mental and physical attitude.
3) Should be a great example of a "down-to-earth personality" while demonstrating the disadvantages of ego.
4) To be a perfect planner, keeping in mind future trends.
5) To help develop better skills, talents, and competencies through mentoring and coaching strategies.
6) To help become a successful person in personal and professional life.
7) To take control of everything while still being participative and directive.
8) To give top priority to ethics and human values/relationships.
9) To motivate positively for a positive outcome while still being ethical, to show empathy, and to share pain, sadness, loss, etc.
10) To help followers conquer their weaknesses and convert them into strengths.
11) To help develop self-esteem.
12) When things go wrong or unexpected/unfavorable situations arise, a true leader will stand by, whatever may happen to him, and he will never let himself or his followers down. He may prefer to die, but he will work in favor of his followers and will succeed in safeguarding them.
As I said in my earlier post, none is a perfect leader. At times, they may go wrong, and they learn from their mistakes. After a long successful journey, Mr. Bill Gates is now working on charity, which he never did before. He has succeeded in making his team work for whatever he wanted to create. He is a successful management expert as he knows about compensating an employee for his hard work, and at the same time, he is a leader as he wanted to achieve whatever you had mentioned in your post.
Such a race for leadership exists only in professional circles but not in personal circles. I hope you will agree with my observation.
I have understood true leadership, and I am implementing it in my professional circle. I don't know to what extent it is being noticed, but still, I am trying my best to make people understand its importance in our professional and personal life. I am trying to find out something related to professional life associated with workplace skills as to how true leaders inculcate this rare habit, which I have found in very few employees. I am sure it is inborn. I have realized that only a true, good, unselfish leader has succeeded in inculcating this habit in employees because of inspiration.
When you know that you were a true leader, try promoting it for a good cause. The best way you can do is give suggestions, share your ideas irrespective of their effective utilization, by those with whom you have shared. Again, there is no harm in declaring yourself as a leader, but you can promote your good leadership skills. For sure, this will project you as a true leader. There is nothing wrong with promoting the good skills you possess or are blessed with. Also, we don't need authority, powers, or opportunities to prove our good/effective leadership skills. Simply march ahead and believe in doing and promoting good always.
When you are a good follower, observer, and listener, you are definitely assertive but not aggressive or passive/submissive. No doubt you are a true leader because I am sure someone will be following the good side of yours.
I agree that true, good, ethical leadership skills are missing in management professionals, hence most employees are facing various issues at the workplace.
Welcome to the group of true, good, ethical leaders. Let's promote the same, and I am there to support you, buddy. True leaders never give up, buddy.
Good luck and keep sharing, as we have to learn good things always.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
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Dear All,
It's time to put forward my query for further discussions. I have been monitoring various employees (at various levels) activities, behavior, attitude, etc. The organization's productivity is directly proportional to employee performance. I have found two types of employees listed below:
One, who took complete ownership and accountability and did something more than expected as they had traveled the extra mile to complete various assignments - a rare breed of employees (professionals), they are internally motivated and can do wonders if they are compensated and promoted proportionally.
Second, despite routine motivational activities, they just carried out their responsibilities (for namesake to earn their bread and butter) but failed to deliver and meet the expectations of their superiors.
MY QUERY
How can leaders (supervisors, managers) inculcate this habit in those employees - to take complete ownership and accountability and do something beyond the expectations of their superiors, without taking the support of management?
No wonder, I can motivate, educate, counsel, mentor, coach employees to develop various workplace skills. Even after carrying out such activities, I haven't seen any change in the second category of employees.
Kindly share your practical experiences only.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
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It's time to put forward my query for further discussions. I have been monitoring various employees (at various levels) activities, behavior, attitude, etc. The organization's productivity is directly proportional to employee performance. I have found two types of employees listed below:
One, who took complete ownership and accountability and did something more than expected as they had traveled the extra mile to complete various assignments - a rare breed of employees (professionals), they are internally motivated and can do wonders if they are compensated and promoted proportionally.
Second, despite routine motivational activities, they just carried out their responsibilities (for namesake to earn their bread and butter) but failed to deliver and meet the expectations of their superiors.
MY QUERY
How can leaders (supervisors, managers) inculcate this habit in those employees - to take complete ownership and accountability and do something beyond the expectations of their superiors, without taking the support of management?
No wonder, I can motivate, educate, counsel, mentor, coach employees to develop various workplace skills. Even after carrying out such activities, I haven't seen any change in the second category of employees.
Kindly share your practical experiences only.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
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Dear MR.SHAIK ABDUL KHADIR
Greetings.
First let me appreciate your initiative of starting a very meaningful thread.
Thank you very much for inviting me in your discussion by your gentle reminder.
I feel to limit my discussion with few messages as I have found many of our forum friends have already discussed nice points and I do not wish to repeat the same.
As per your request, I wish to be precise by quoting an example before I answer your main Question.
Let me quote an example that is familiar in HR’s parlance:
Here’s an example most people can relate to… so read along and then tell me which person is tapping into their leadership power.
Two people go on a job interview, are equally qualified, and perform well during the interviews. At the close of that interview here’s what transpires after the interviewer says “Thanks for interviewing, we’ll let you know what we decide about the position.”:
Person A says…
“Thank you for your time. I appreciate the opportunity and hope to hear from you.”
Person B says…
“Thank you so much. What are your next steps in the decision making process? What is your time frame for making a decision? I am currently evaluating several other exciting opportunities so I will give you a call next week to check-in as I would really like to make an informed decision and have the opportunity to contribute to your organization’s mission.”
Which person is being more of leader in their own career?
Person A who gives a passive, and waits at the mercy of someone else to decide their future?
OR
Person B who proactively gathers more information and creates the next step in the process so that the highest good of all involved can be served?
Let us not define a leader or a follower as per books, but let us define them by situation.
I wish to share an appropriate quotation here to support my views further.
“And the first thing to know is that a “leader” is not a job description. It is a state of consciousness.” – Yehuda Berg
Because leadership is a state of consciousness and a way of being, you can be a leader in your own life if you wish to create accomplishments on your own terms.
Otherwise you’re left to the whims of others.
A leader isn’t always a leader and a follower isn’t always a follower.
That's what ‘Leader or Follower’ is all about.
Hope I have made my points clear.
Coming to your main question “Are you leader or follower?”
I have the mind of a leader, disguised in the body of a follower.
Leader by direction and example. Follower by religion and kindness.
I am both, you can even call me as a Leadower (Leader + Follower).
I will be too happy to receive your guidelines for both - leader and follower.
Thanking you again for the opportunity given to express my views.
With warm regards.
AVS
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From India, Madras
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Greetings.
First let me appreciate your initiative of starting a very meaningful thread.
Thank you very much for inviting me in your discussion by your gentle reminder.
I feel to limit my discussion with few messages as I have found many of our forum friends have already discussed nice points and I do not wish to repeat the same.
As per your request, I wish to be precise by quoting an example before I answer your main Question.
Let me quote an example that is familiar in HR’s parlance:
Here’s an example most people can relate to… so read along and then tell me which person is tapping into their leadership power.
Two people go on a job interview, are equally qualified, and perform well during the interviews. At the close of that interview here’s what transpires after the interviewer says “Thanks for interviewing, we’ll let you know what we decide about the position.”:
Person A says…
“Thank you for your time. I appreciate the opportunity and hope to hear from you.”
Person B says…
“Thank you so much. What are your next steps in the decision making process? What is your time frame for making a decision? I am currently evaluating several other exciting opportunities so I will give you a call next week to check-in as I would really like to make an informed decision and have the opportunity to contribute to your organization’s mission.”
Which person is being more of leader in their own career?
Person A who gives a passive, and waits at the mercy of someone else to decide their future?
OR
Person B who proactively gathers more information and creates the next step in the process so that the highest good of all involved can be served?
Let us not define a leader or a follower as per books, but let us define them by situation.
I wish to share an appropriate quotation here to support my views further.
“And the first thing to know is that a “leader” is not a job description. It is a state of consciousness.” – Yehuda Berg
Because leadership is a state of consciousness and a way of being, you can be a leader in your own life if you wish to create accomplishments on your own terms.
Otherwise you’re left to the whims of others.
A leader isn’t always a leader and a follower isn’t always a follower.
That's what ‘Leader or Follower’ is all about.
Hope I have made my points clear.
Coming to your main question “Are you leader or follower?”
I have the mind of a leader, disguised in the body of a follower.
Leader by direction and example. Follower by religion and kindness.
I am both, you can even call me as a Leadower (Leader + Follower).
I will be too happy to receive your guidelines for both - leader and follower.
Thanking you again for the opportunity given to express my views.
With warm regards.
AVS
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From India, Madras
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Hello Khadir & all,
The topic/theme/subject is both interesting & confusing... like Hussain Zulfikar expressed.
In a way, Deadsoul has a point—though expressed in his/her own normal way :-)
First, let me elaborate on my reasons for terming this topic as 'interesting': This subject is something that has gone very deep to many psychologists the world over since the ages. And each opinion/explanation regarding this topic has only taken the human race JUST ONE STEP CLOSER to understanding about human nature—NOT to the very end. If the Last Word has been said by someone, then, I guess, many on the face of this planet would be without work :-)
Secondly, to explain my reason(s) for terming this topic as confusing: The very action/effort of trying to 'label' one person as a 'leader' & another one as a 'follower' is a fallacy—for the simple reason [and this is where Deadsoul is dead right] that NONE—REPEAT NONE—is a 100% Leader or a 100% Follower.
There always exists something of both 'aspects' in every individual—including a beggar in the railway station—except that the proportion varies depending on a few factors: [1] the individual—his/her awareness being primary here [2] the context/situation AND [3] the time frame under consideration.
A small analogy—taken from the routine lives of everyone of us. Let's take a small family—parents & their kid(s). For the kids, the father is a leader—but does that REALLY make him a leader for everyone [meaning outsiders]? Obviously NO—since sometimes even the wife doesn't take her orders from him, though she may have valid reasons for doing so :-)
The father LEADS the way for the kids, and yet FOLLOWS someone else in other situations/conditions—most likely some outsider. And unless he follows someone AND LEARNS— in the truest sense—ALONG THE WAY, he would, in all probability, falter in his own step(s) when he has to lead his kids. Deadsoul is dead right on this point.
I recollect a quote here: A true Leader is one who never hesitates to Follow.
The same would hold good for the typical 'netas' of our politics here—a State-level Leader [whether 'so-called' or a True one is a different issue—not going into that aspect at all] will obviously be a Follower @ the National-level [again whether he/she does the 'following' from the truest sense of the action or out-of-convenience is a different issue].
Another perspective of this debate is about the consequences of one's actions—be it a Leader or a Follower or just a plain Watcher [the cat-on-the-wall type]. If one hasn't learned to follow—in the true spirit i.e.—he/she wouldn't be able to lead for sure. Since every position of leadership [irrespective of what type] also brings with it a 'Responsibility' of the consequences of his/her actions, a misplaced/wrong step of a leader would be far more catastrophic than that of a follower/watcher—and in all probability—would be borne MORE by his/her followers than himself/herself. History is replete with such instances where the wrong decisions by the Leader have wrought havoc by countries/corporations the world over. In the limited scenario of a family or a village or town, the same would still hold good.
In this background, a TRUE Leader would be one who doesn't hesitate to OWN-UP HIS/HER MISTAKES.
This again brings me to another quote [I think by Churchill or Abraham Lincoln]: Some are born Leaders; Some become Leaders & leadership is thrust on some. It's the III Category that one may need to be wary of, since they become leaders WITHOUT EARNING that position—at least that's my view.
I hope I have added to the debate rather than confusing things further.
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
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The topic/theme/subject is both interesting & confusing... like Hussain Zulfikar expressed.
In a way, Deadsoul has a point—though expressed in his/her own normal way :-)
First, let me elaborate on my reasons for terming this topic as 'interesting': This subject is something that has gone very deep to many psychologists the world over since the ages. And each opinion/explanation regarding this topic has only taken the human race JUST ONE STEP CLOSER to understanding about human nature—NOT to the very end. If the Last Word has been said by someone, then, I guess, many on the face of this planet would be without work :-)
Secondly, to explain my reason(s) for terming this topic as confusing: The very action/effort of trying to 'label' one person as a 'leader' & another one as a 'follower' is a fallacy—for the simple reason [and this is where Deadsoul is dead right] that NONE—REPEAT NONE—is a 100% Leader or a 100% Follower.
There always exists something of both 'aspects' in every individual—including a beggar in the railway station—except that the proportion varies depending on a few factors: [1] the individual—his/her awareness being primary here [2] the context/situation AND [3] the time frame under consideration.
A small analogy—taken from the routine lives of everyone of us. Let's take a small family—parents & their kid(s). For the kids, the father is a leader—but does that REALLY make him a leader for everyone [meaning outsiders]? Obviously NO—since sometimes even the wife doesn't take her orders from him, though she may have valid reasons for doing so :-)
The father LEADS the way for the kids, and yet FOLLOWS someone else in other situations/conditions—most likely some outsider. And unless he follows someone AND LEARNS— in the truest sense—ALONG THE WAY, he would, in all probability, falter in his own step(s) when he has to lead his kids. Deadsoul is dead right on this point.
I recollect a quote here: A true Leader is one who never hesitates to Follow.
The same would hold good for the typical 'netas' of our politics here—a State-level Leader [whether 'so-called' or a True one is a different issue—not going into that aspect at all] will obviously be a Follower @ the National-level [again whether he/she does the 'following' from the truest sense of the action or out-of-convenience is a different issue].
Another perspective of this debate is about the consequences of one's actions—be it a Leader or a Follower or just a plain Watcher [the cat-on-the-wall type]. If one hasn't learned to follow—in the true spirit i.e.—he/she wouldn't be able to lead for sure. Since every position of leadership [irrespective of what type] also brings with it a 'Responsibility' of the consequences of his/her actions, a misplaced/wrong step of a leader would be far more catastrophic than that of a follower/watcher—and in all probability—would be borne MORE by his/her followers than himself/herself. History is replete with such instances where the wrong decisions by the Leader have wrought havoc by countries/corporations the world over. In the limited scenario of a family or a village or town, the same would still hold good.
In this background, a TRUE Leader would be one who doesn't hesitate to OWN-UP HIS/HER MISTAKES.
This again brings me to another quote [I think by Churchill or Abraham Lincoln]: Some are born Leaders; Some become Leaders & leadership is thrust on some. It's the III Category that one may need to be wary of, since they become leaders WITHOUT EARNING that position—at least that's my view.
I hope I have added to the debate rather than confusing things further.
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
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Dear Mr. AVSJAI,
I am sure your reply is quite unique and interesting, and it really made me feel happy. I am glad to have such professionals in this community.
We are aware that "ALL FIVE FINGERS ARE NOT THE SAME," hence PERCEPTIONS and INTERPRETATION LEVELS differ significantly. We are living in a world of "CUT-THROAT COMPETITION," "SELFISHNESS," "ABSENCE OF ETHICS," and "NO HUMAN VALUES," but still, SURVIVABILITY, as per individuals' expectations, sounds to be a challenging and MAMMOTH TASK. In the pursuit of EXCELLENCE, many have ignored various things, and at times, it has cost them their lives as well. I agree with Mr. Hussain, as he rightly pointed out it as a "RACE," but the GOOD PART IS ALWAYS MISSING.
I have always promoted LEADERSHIP SKILLS in those individuals who are unique from the rest, capable of leading themselves and their team members. Believe me or not, it is for A GOOD CAUSE only. This fact took my breath away when I noted professionals possessing more or less 3 DECADES of experience lacking sheer LEADERSHIP SKILLS. Just because of AUTHORITY/POWERS, they are able to get things done either by hook or crook. If one lacks LEADERSHIP SKILLS, I am sure he/she is lacking MANAGERIAL SKILLS as well.
LEADERS and FOLLOWERS do exist. Few become leaders to earn MONEY and POWER, whereas few to earn NAME and FAME. The rest remain NEUTRAL as they decide not to take RISKS.
My major concern is related to individuals (employees) CAREER-associated GROWTH FACTORS. As an observer, I have been closely monitoring how SUPERIORS succeeded in nurturing their co-workers/team members. I deeply regret to say that the FAILURE RATIO IS 90%. Most of them claim themselves as LEADERS, but at the same time, I haven't seen any FOLLOWERS. What I believe is that "one must possess TRUE LEADERSHIP SKILLS to LEAD A TEAM" else he/she should continue to play the role of a TEAM MEMBER. We humans are blessed with TALENT, but neither is it UNLEASHED nor is it PROMOTED. Hence, the organization's productivity is DECLINING. I hope you understand me.
I wish if you could share your knowledge regarding my query posted in my earlier post.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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I am sure your reply is quite unique and interesting, and it really made me feel happy. I am glad to have such professionals in this community.
We are aware that "ALL FIVE FINGERS ARE NOT THE SAME," hence PERCEPTIONS and INTERPRETATION LEVELS differ significantly. We are living in a world of "CUT-THROAT COMPETITION," "SELFISHNESS," "ABSENCE OF ETHICS," and "NO HUMAN VALUES," but still, SURVIVABILITY, as per individuals' expectations, sounds to be a challenging and MAMMOTH TASK. In the pursuit of EXCELLENCE, many have ignored various things, and at times, it has cost them their lives as well. I agree with Mr. Hussain, as he rightly pointed out it as a "RACE," but the GOOD PART IS ALWAYS MISSING.
I have always promoted LEADERSHIP SKILLS in those individuals who are unique from the rest, capable of leading themselves and their team members. Believe me or not, it is for A GOOD CAUSE only. This fact took my breath away when I noted professionals possessing more or less 3 DECADES of experience lacking sheer LEADERSHIP SKILLS. Just because of AUTHORITY/POWERS, they are able to get things done either by hook or crook. If one lacks LEADERSHIP SKILLS, I am sure he/she is lacking MANAGERIAL SKILLS as well.
LEADERS and FOLLOWERS do exist. Few become leaders to earn MONEY and POWER, whereas few to earn NAME and FAME. The rest remain NEUTRAL as they decide not to take RISKS.
My major concern is related to individuals (employees) CAREER-associated GROWTH FACTORS. As an observer, I have been closely monitoring how SUPERIORS succeeded in nurturing their co-workers/team members. I deeply regret to say that the FAILURE RATIO IS 90%. Most of them claim themselves as LEADERS, but at the same time, I haven't seen any FOLLOWERS. What I believe is that "one must possess TRUE LEADERSHIP SKILLS to LEAD A TEAM" else he/she should continue to play the role of a TEAM MEMBER. We humans are blessed with TALENT, but neither is it UNLEASHED nor is it PROMOTED. Hence, the organization's productivity is DECLINING. I hope you understand me.
I wish if you could share your knowledge regarding my query posted in my earlier post.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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Dear Mr.SHAIK ABDUL KHADIR
Thanks for your reply and I have understood your queries and give my comments here.
For your easy reference, I will give my comments below your main queries made in few of your posts.
1) YOUR QUERY(Dt.31-10-2011)
“My major concern is related to individuals (employees) CAREER associated GROWTH FACTORS. As a observer, I had been closely monitoring how SUPERIORS succeeded in nurturing their co-workers/team members. I deeply regret to say that, FAILURE RATIO IS 90%. Most of them claimed themselves as LEADERS but at the same time i haven't seen any FOLLOWERS. What i believe is that, "one must possess TRUE LEADERSHIP SKILLS to LEAD A TEAM" else he/she should continue to play the role of a TEAM MEMBER. We human's are blessed with TALENT but neither it is UNLEASHED nor it is PROMOTED. Hence the organization’s productivity is DECLINED. Hope you understood me.”MY COMMENTS:
At workers level, the leader or manger can not expect results to happen by cent percent. First he should define his level of expectations from each member of his team and work out his plan as per the individual capabilities. He should understand the fact that ‘one can not stand under a mango tree expecting oranges.’ Most of the failures are of this type and the case is worst if the leader come from the same group.
Here I have witnessed few experiences from the mistakes done by the managements.
If you promote a skilled person to lead the team, it is more of a suicidal effort. By doing this the team lose a good skilled person and in a process create a bad leader.
With an experience of over two decades in corporate sectors and another two decades of being an entrepreneur, I wish to share few of my thoughts here. There were no buzzwords like HRM, Accountability. Team building and so on in our prime times. But a mere common-sense approach has worked in dealing with team to produce results. But to day we are glued to these buzz words and technology and forget the human values. There is no development either in communication or in the personality of the person among managers.
2) YOUR QUERY (Dt.30-10-2011)
“How LEADERS(can be a supervisor, manager) can inculcate this HABIT in those employees - "TO TAKE COMPLETE OWNERSHIP & ACCOUNTABILITY & DO SOMETHING BEYOND THAN EXPECTATIONS OF THEIR SUPERIOR", without taking support of MANAGEMENT?” No wonder, i can motivate, educate, counsel, mentor, coach employees to develop various workplace skills. Even after carrying out such activities, i haven't seen any change in second category employees."
MY COMMENTS:
Any system that is brought in, should be first educated and instructed; then it should be enforced. Only if this sequence is followed the system will stay for long and people will adhere to it.
Here I wish to point out the culture of the organization has an impact in valuing the employees.
The CEO should be able to inculcate the human values into his team apart from himself being the person of human values.
I am happy to share a message of the emergence of ‘Human Resource Accounting’ which seems to work well if properly implemented. Hope the new system will add a new value to HR managers who will be treated in par with other line mangers. The HR mangers will work along with finance and other line managers to evaluate the Human Resource Accounting and convert them in terms of financial value, which will reflect in the company’s annual balance sheet. Infosys has already done this program recently and made its reflection in their balance sheet. This system may bring an accountability of every person in the organization.
Use the below link to see more details:
What is Human Resource Accounting?
What is happening presently is ridiculous as the Management has a casual attitude towards its employees and in turn the employees too behave differently. At times the group dynamics plays a role in not taking accountability. Instead of defining ‘What is right?’ the concept of “Who is right?’ sets in the minds of the group. This is really disturbing the managers in their efforts.
Added to this, the present HR managers, who by his or her title suppose to understand the human behavior than other line managers, do not use their own wisdom in understanding the employee’s turn around or the attrition rate. Using the recommendations of the line managers and the so called tool of ‘Performance Appraisal Report’, the present HR mangers involve in sending the employees out. They merely see the poor outputs, without verifying the input data that is causing the poor output. HR mangers are powerless in these situations and bow down to pressures causing an exit to a right employee. These slips can have a cascading effect on the other members of the group and even spoil their morale.
As long as these human fundamentals are ignored, the situation will remain the same or even gets worse in future.
By this I am not saying that all the present mangers are wrong and I have found some brilliant young mangers who really excel in their profession. But they are few in numbers and are considered as ‘unsung heroes’.
I am sharing herewith a PDF file on ‘Managing an effective team’ from which you can gather more inputs for your analysis.
I conclude my discussion with a saying:
Change the changeable.
Accept the unchangeable.
Remove yourself from the unacceptable.
In any situation, let the first choice be to change the changeable. It is a responsible beginning.
However, when all efforts to cause the change has failed, then accept the unacceptable.
Finally, remove yourself from the unacceptable.
You alone will be able to make that decision.
Thank you for the opportunity given to express my views.
Warm regards.
A.V.Srinivasan(AVS)
************************************************** *****
From India, Madras
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Thanks for your reply and I have understood your queries and give my comments here.
For your easy reference, I will give my comments below your main queries made in few of your posts.
1) YOUR QUERY(Dt.31-10-2011)
“My major concern is related to individuals (employees) CAREER associated GROWTH FACTORS. As a observer, I had been closely monitoring how SUPERIORS succeeded in nurturing their co-workers/team members. I deeply regret to say that, FAILURE RATIO IS 90%. Most of them claimed themselves as LEADERS but at the same time i haven't seen any FOLLOWERS. What i believe is that, "one must possess TRUE LEADERSHIP SKILLS to LEAD A TEAM" else he/she should continue to play the role of a TEAM MEMBER. We human's are blessed with TALENT but neither it is UNLEASHED nor it is PROMOTED. Hence the organization’s productivity is DECLINED. Hope you understood me.”MY COMMENTS:
At workers level, the leader or manger can not expect results to happen by cent percent. First he should define his level of expectations from each member of his team and work out his plan as per the individual capabilities. He should understand the fact that ‘one can not stand under a mango tree expecting oranges.’ Most of the failures are of this type and the case is worst if the leader come from the same group.
Here I have witnessed few experiences from the mistakes done by the managements.
If you promote a skilled person to lead the team, it is more of a suicidal effort. By doing this the team lose a good skilled person and in a process create a bad leader.
With an experience of over two decades in corporate sectors and another two decades of being an entrepreneur, I wish to share few of my thoughts here. There were no buzzwords like HRM, Accountability. Team building and so on in our prime times. But a mere common-sense approach has worked in dealing with team to produce results. But to day we are glued to these buzz words and technology and forget the human values. There is no development either in communication or in the personality of the person among managers.
2) YOUR QUERY (Dt.30-10-2011)
“How LEADERS(can be a supervisor, manager) can inculcate this HABIT in those employees - "TO TAKE COMPLETE OWNERSHIP & ACCOUNTABILITY & DO SOMETHING BEYOND THAN EXPECTATIONS OF THEIR SUPERIOR", without taking support of MANAGEMENT?” No wonder, i can motivate, educate, counsel, mentor, coach employees to develop various workplace skills. Even after carrying out such activities, i haven't seen any change in second category employees."
MY COMMENTS:
Any system that is brought in, should be first educated and instructed; then it should be enforced. Only if this sequence is followed the system will stay for long and people will adhere to it.
Here I wish to point out the culture of the organization has an impact in valuing the employees.
The CEO should be able to inculcate the human values into his team apart from himself being the person of human values.
I am happy to share a message of the emergence of ‘Human Resource Accounting’ which seems to work well if properly implemented. Hope the new system will add a new value to HR managers who will be treated in par with other line mangers. The HR mangers will work along with finance and other line managers to evaluate the Human Resource Accounting and convert them in terms of financial value, which will reflect in the company’s annual balance sheet. Infosys has already done this program recently and made its reflection in their balance sheet. This system may bring an accountability of every person in the organization.
Use the below link to see more details:
What is Human Resource Accounting?
What is happening presently is ridiculous as the Management has a casual attitude towards its employees and in turn the employees too behave differently. At times the group dynamics plays a role in not taking accountability. Instead of defining ‘What is right?’ the concept of “Who is right?’ sets in the minds of the group. This is really disturbing the managers in their efforts.
Added to this, the present HR managers, who by his or her title suppose to understand the human behavior than other line managers, do not use their own wisdom in understanding the employee’s turn around or the attrition rate. Using the recommendations of the line managers and the so called tool of ‘Performance Appraisal Report’, the present HR mangers involve in sending the employees out. They merely see the poor outputs, without verifying the input data that is causing the poor output. HR mangers are powerless in these situations and bow down to pressures causing an exit to a right employee. These slips can have a cascading effect on the other members of the group and even spoil their morale.
As long as these human fundamentals are ignored, the situation will remain the same or even gets worse in future.
By this I am not saying that all the present mangers are wrong and I have found some brilliant young mangers who really excel in their profession. But they are few in numbers and are considered as ‘unsung heroes’.
I am sharing herewith a PDF file on ‘Managing an effective team’ from which you can gather more inputs for your analysis.
I conclude my discussion with a saying:
Change the changeable.
Accept the unchangeable.
Remove yourself from the unacceptable.
In any situation, let the first choice be to change the changeable. It is a responsible beginning.
However, when all efforts to cause the change has failed, then accept the unacceptable.
Finally, remove yourself from the unacceptable.
You alone will be able to make that decision.
Thank you for the opportunity given to express my views.
Warm regards.
A.V.Srinivasan(AVS)
************************************************** *****
From India, Madras
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Dear Mr. AVS,
Thank you for your reply. What I found is that a group of TEAM LEADERS (who had undergone various training programs) are not taking initiative. Neither are they interested in developing their own skills nor those of their team members. What's the point in educating them on "HOW TO MANAGE A TEAM"? Such groups/individuals are found in almost every organization, including FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES, and they are held responsible for not meeting BUSINESS OBJECTIVES and CLIENTS' REQUIREMENTS, thus slowing PRODUCTIVITY. FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES have succeeded in taking STRINGENT ACTION against such LETHARGIC PROFESSIONALS; hence, they are progressing aggressively. TIME WILL TEACH THEM MORE.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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Thank you for your reply. What I found is that a group of TEAM LEADERS (who had undergone various training programs) are not taking initiative. Neither are they interested in developing their own skills nor those of their team members. What's the point in educating them on "HOW TO MANAGE A TEAM"? Such groups/individuals are found in almost every organization, including FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES, and they are held responsible for not meeting BUSINESS OBJECTIVES and CLIENTS' REQUIREMENTS, thus slowing PRODUCTIVITY. FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES have succeeded in taking STRINGENT ACTION against such LETHARGIC PROFESSIONALS; hence, they are progressing aggressively. TIME WILL TEACH THEM MORE.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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