Hi,
I am working in one of the companies in Hyderabad, India. I joined this organization in December 2010, but since I was on the bench, I mentioned that I couldn't be relocated for at least 6 months while accepting the offer letter. Today, the HR executive called me and informed me that I had been terminated as they do not have any more projects and the company's business is not doing well. This has also happened to 10 more friends of mine who were sitting on the bench with me. They are not willing to give a 2-month notice period either.
The HR is asking me to submit the resignation papers on Monday, the 18th of April, so that they can send me the relieving letter within 15 days. Otherwise, they have mentioned that they can issue a termination letter.
Please suggest, should I submit the resignation or wait for the termination letter? Which option is better? How can I move forward when the company is behaving like this, knowing they did not have projects as early as January 2011, and now asking me to leave in 15 days?
Thank you.
From India, Hyderabad
I am working in one of the companies in Hyderabad, India. I joined this organization in December 2010, but since I was on the bench, I mentioned that I couldn't be relocated for at least 6 months while accepting the offer letter. Today, the HR executive called me and informed me that I had been terminated as they do not have any more projects and the company's business is not doing well. This has also happened to 10 more friends of mine who were sitting on the bench with me. They are not willing to give a 2-month notice period either.
The HR is asking me to submit the resignation papers on Monday, the 18th of April, so that they can send me the relieving letter within 15 days. Otherwise, they have mentioned that they can issue a termination letter.
Please suggest, should I submit the resignation or wait for the termination letter? Which option is better? How can I move forward when the company is behaving like this, knowing they did not have projects as early as January 2011, and now asking me to leave in 15 days?
Thank you.
From India, Hyderabad
I believe he has to submit his resignation before the company issues a termination letter to him. Even in my organization, we have done the same with a few employees, but we compensated them with an extra month's salary and relieved them.
What do you suggest?
From India, Bangalore
What do you suggest?
From India, Bangalore
I just wanted to inquire about his experience because if he is a fresher and this is his first company, it means his probation period continues. During the probation period, the company can dismiss or terminate him without giving prior notice or one month's salary.
From India
From India
Hey Vikash, How are you... See, He all ready mentions that he was joined on Dec 2010, this mean now he has completed his 3 months and he is started his 4th month in the company..
From India, Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
Dear Mr. Shriraaz,
Find out if you can save your job by relocating, as you were given an option to relocate at the time of your appointment. No company will keep you on their payroll if they don't have projects in hand. Manage yourself by searching for better jobs simultaneously.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
Find out if you can save your job by relocating, as you were given an option to relocate at the time of your appointment. No company will keep you on their payroll if they don't have projects in hand. Manage yourself by searching for better jobs simultaneously.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
Hi all,
Thank you for the information. I have 2.9 years of experience upon joining. Now, should I request a termination letter citing the lack of projects as the reason, or should I resign from my side? Which option is better? I need to be prepared to answer questions in upcoming interviews about why I left the company within a short span of 3 months.
Please advise.
Thank you.
From India, Hyderabad
Thank you for the information. I have 2.9 years of experience upon joining. Now, should I request a termination letter citing the lack of projects as the reason, or should I resign from my side? Which option is better? I need to be prepared to answer questions in upcoming interviews about why I left the company within a short span of 3 months.
Please advise.
Thank you.
From India, Hyderabad
Resignation is considered a better option than termination. But that depends on the interviewer. I doubt if any company will give a reason for termination as not having projects. They do not want to look bad, especially since the termination letter may be seen by future prospective employees. It is likely that they will simply issue a termination letter without assigning reasons.
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Dear [Employee's Name],
Now you are under probation. During the probation period, the company has the right to terminate. It would be better if you submit your resignation. Please refer to the terms and conditions outlined in your offer letter. As per our company policy, a 24-hour notice is mandatory from both parties during the probation period.
Therefore, it would be advisable for you to submit your resignation; otherwise, they may terminate your employment.
Regards,
Purushottam Dass Matta
9784595015
From India, Alwar
Now you are under probation. During the probation period, the company has the right to terminate. It would be better if you submit your resignation. Please refer to the terms and conditions outlined in your offer letter. As per our company policy, a 24-hour notice is mandatory from both parties during the probation period.
Therefore, it would be advisable for you to submit your resignation; otherwise, they may terminate your employment.
Regards,
Purushottam Dass Matta
9784595015
From India, Alwar
Losing a job is, of course, disturbing. However, it is always the case that the employer has ways to justify his decision because when he makes it, he does so with solid reasoning behind him. Employees are often at the receiving end and should, therefore, be cautious about their demands and the justification for them. In this case, what I find is that the arguments and conditions in favor of the employee were much weaker compared to those of the employer. It is advisable not to impose conditions when your bargaining power is low.
Mukherjee Advisor / Consultant in the jute sector
From India, Calcutta
Mukherjee Advisor / Consultant in the jute sector
From India, Calcutta
As per my understanding, you are on a probation period (less than 6 months in the system), and as per the company policy, they can terminate or ask employees to resign at any moment. So, before facing termination, it would be advisable for you to consider submitting your resignation.
Thanks,
Kalyan
From India, Bhubaneswar
Thanks,
Kalyan
From India, Bhubaneswar
Dear Shriraaz,
I am so sorry to hear this from your end as I can imagine the pain that you are going through. I really don't understand why employers never bother about their employees before making such decisions. Shouldn't they confirm their project dealings before hiring someone? Such drastic decisions leave an adverse impact on the employee, where he loses both his previous and current job. They never try to understand how tough it is for an employee to get another job in such a short span, and secondly, many companies reject profiles of candidates who have almost joined a new company. Anyways, there is not much that we can do instead of looking out for alternatives.
Please try talking to your HR, stating that despite leading a satisfying job in your previous company, your decision to quit and accept new responsibilities in this company was made because it had an environment that gives you enough space to show what you are capable of, a scope you felt where you can grow along with the company, a platform to work where you can excel your skills, a commitment that you have created within yourself to stand in a position after a few years, etc. Make them feel the hope and expectations with which you have made your mind to accept the offer before joining. Lastly, convey the disappointment that you have faced. Find out if there is any other alternative way to handle this situation - like getting transferred, being deployed at the client's place, or working with less salary or no salary for 2-3 months, something like that according to your convenience.
Tell them about the consequences that you need to face because of such a decision taken by the company. Make it clear that you have lost both your previous and current job (Be calm, positive, and careful while using words to describe your feelings). Also, tell them that suddenly you are in the middle of something that can cause an impact on your career, and it becomes difficult to get a job like this in a short span of 15 days. Being an HR, there is no need to say that HR of other companies will not even look into my profile as I had just joined here 3 months ago, so it's not really easy to get onto another job. Try to convince your HR in all the ways you can, bring your financial situations too (Don't get into personal things). If nothing works out, then see if they can extend your notice period for another 2 months with pay (Request for it). Tell them that you will try your level best to get a job in that span or can the Management/HR refer you to any other companies. If they don't accept, then say that the management has decided that we have to quit, so at least they should show a little concern for us by giving us alternatives in either form.
If nothing works out, then put down your papers; never let them fire you and start your hunt for a new job. Just see if your previous company can re-hire you - If you have good contacts with your reporting head or HR, then there are chances that it will work out in your favor. May God be with you and Good Luck.
- Babu
From India, Madras
I am so sorry to hear this from your end as I can imagine the pain that you are going through. I really don't understand why employers never bother about their employees before making such decisions. Shouldn't they confirm their project dealings before hiring someone? Such drastic decisions leave an adverse impact on the employee, where he loses both his previous and current job. They never try to understand how tough it is for an employee to get another job in such a short span, and secondly, many companies reject profiles of candidates who have almost joined a new company. Anyways, there is not much that we can do instead of looking out for alternatives.
Please try talking to your HR, stating that despite leading a satisfying job in your previous company, your decision to quit and accept new responsibilities in this company was made because it had an environment that gives you enough space to show what you are capable of, a scope you felt where you can grow along with the company, a platform to work where you can excel your skills, a commitment that you have created within yourself to stand in a position after a few years, etc. Make them feel the hope and expectations with which you have made your mind to accept the offer before joining. Lastly, convey the disappointment that you have faced. Find out if there is any other alternative way to handle this situation - like getting transferred, being deployed at the client's place, or working with less salary or no salary for 2-3 months, something like that according to your convenience.
Tell them about the consequences that you need to face because of such a decision taken by the company. Make it clear that you have lost both your previous and current job (Be calm, positive, and careful while using words to describe your feelings). Also, tell them that suddenly you are in the middle of something that can cause an impact on your career, and it becomes difficult to get a job like this in a short span of 15 days. Being an HR, there is no need to say that HR of other companies will not even look into my profile as I had just joined here 3 months ago, so it's not really easy to get onto another job. Try to convince your HR in all the ways you can, bring your financial situations too (Don't get into personal things). If nothing works out, then see if they can extend your notice period for another 2 months with pay (Request for it). Tell them that you will try your level best to get a job in that span or can the Management/HR refer you to any other companies. If they don't accept, then say that the management has decided that we have to quit, so at least they should show a little concern for us by giving us alternatives in either form.
If nothing works out, then put down your papers; never let them fire you and start your hunt for a new job. Just see if your previous company can re-hire you - If you have good contacts with your reporting head or HR, then there are chances that it will work out in your favor. May God be with you and Good Luck.
- Babu
From India, Madras
HI, If you are on probation then the company has all rights of hire & fire, i think termination is a black spot from carrer point of view,its better you resigned & go as per the flow. Rgds, Atul
From India, Pune
From India, Pune
Hi Shriraj,
You should have known certain facts about the company before you joined. Now it is too late, but let this be a future guideline. The company's financial position may be bad since you are not the only one being given this treatment, so think about this.
Normally, my advice would be to resign because termination would not be appropriate. You will have to explain all of this to your future employer. It is true that you will also have to explain the sudden leaving of the company, but with a good certificate, the facts may be in your favor.
Take the offer and negotiate for two more months of salary, then start finding a job. This is my sincere advice.
Dr. Nagaraj
From India, Bangalore
You should have known certain facts about the company before you joined. Now it is too late, but let this be a future guideline. The company's financial position may be bad since you are not the only one being given this treatment, so think about this.
Normally, my advice would be to resign because termination would not be appropriate. You will have to explain all of this to your future employer. It is true that you will also have to explain the sudden leaving of the company, but with a good certificate, the facts may be in your favor.
Take the offer and negotiate for two more months of salary, then start finding a job. This is my sincere advice.
Dr. Nagaraj
From India, Bangalore
Hi all! I would also suggest that you should give a resignation letter rather than taking a termination letter. If in another interview they ask, "Why did you leave the company?" then you can also tell them the real story. Based on the conditions you have mentioned, I think there will be no problem if you tell the truth in the interview. If you don't want to damage the image of the previous organization, you can still explain that you were not satisfied with the work culture, among other things.
From India, Rajkot
From India, Rajkot
It's better to give a resignation letter because if you apply to other companies, you can say that you have given the resignation because the company was not doing well or for any reason like career growth, etc. But if you won't give it, they will terminate you, and if the other companies ask for a relieving letter that you won't have. I suggest you move on and give a resignation letter. There are lots of opportunities in the market, so you don't need to worry.
From India, Hyderabad
From India, Hyderabad
Termination depends upon the terms and conditions of your appointment letter, including the notice period. It is clear from your emails that termination is inevitable. When you are in such a situation, it is better to exit honorably by submitting a resignation.
Regards, Prakash
From India, Madras
Regards, Prakash
From India, Madras
I think it is better for you to submit your resignation rather than receiving a termination letter, which will always be a black mark on your career. It doesn't make sense to work for a company that does not value your services. Ask for time to secure another job.
Best of luck. I would like to see the format of the termination letter if it has already been issued.
From India, New Delhi
Best of luck. I would like to see the format of the termination letter if it has already been issued.
From India, New Delhi
Hi,
I worked with a private limited company from January 2010 to March 2011. The company did not pay my last three months' salary for January, February, and part of March 2011. Also, the company owes me about Rs. 8000 towards my tour bills.
The company is so notorious that it has never fulfilled statutory compliance like depositing employer's contribution or depositing income tax deducted, etc. The company had not given me a confirmation letter during my tenure. Since the company did not pay my last three months' salary, I left the company. Now, I am jobless.
Please suggest what I should do to withdraw my Provident Fund (PF) and obtain my Form No. 16. Also, what steps should I take to get my salary and tour bill amount.
Thanks,
Nitin Patel
From India, Vadodara
I worked with a private limited company from January 2010 to March 2011. The company did not pay my last three months' salary for January, February, and part of March 2011. Also, the company owes me about Rs. 8000 towards my tour bills.
The company is so notorious that it has never fulfilled statutory compliance like depositing employer's contribution or depositing income tax deducted, etc. The company had not given me a confirmation letter during my tenure. Since the company did not pay my last three months' salary, I left the company. Now, I am jobless.
Please suggest what I should do to withdraw my Provident Fund (PF) and obtain my Form No. 16. Also, what steps should I take to get my salary and tour bill amount.
Thanks,
Nitin Patel
From India, Vadodara
Subject: Re: Resignation and Termination
Hi,
I worked with a private limited company in Ahmedabad from January 2010 to March 2011. The company did not pay my last three months' salary for January, February, and partly March 2011. Also, the company owes me about Rs. 8000 towards my tour bills.
The company is so notorious that it has never fulfilled statutory compliance obligations like depositing employer's contributions, depositing deducted income tax, etc. The company did not provide me with a confirmation letter during my tenure. Due to the company not paying my last three months' salary, I decided to leave. I am currently unemployed.
Please suggest what steps I should take to withdraw my Provident Fund (PF) and obtain my Form No. 16. Also, what actions should I take to recover my salary and tour bill amounts.
Thank you,
Nitin Patel
From India, Vadodara
Hi,
I worked with a private limited company in Ahmedabad from January 2010 to March 2011. The company did not pay my last three months' salary for January, February, and partly March 2011. Also, the company owes me about Rs. 8000 towards my tour bills.
The company is so notorious that it has never fulfilled statutory compliance obligations like depositing employer's contributions, depositing deducted income tax, etc. The company did not provide me with a confirmation letter during my tenure. Due to the company not paying my last three months' salary, I decided to leave. I am currently unemployed.
Please suggest what steps I should take to withdraw my Provident Fund (PF) and obtain my Form No. 16. Also, what actions should I take to recover my salary and tour bill amounts.
Thank you,
Nitin Patel
From India, Vadodara
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