Rajat Joshi
Hr Consulting ,trainer -creative Thinking
Sunayna
Handwriting Analysis, Employee Relations,
Rajnish Borah
Hr Leader - Syntel Inc
Centerpide
Student

Thread Started by #centerpide

I've been told that you really don't need a degree specialising in HR to get into HRM...is this really true??
oh yeah another thing...what kind of personal characteristics/attributes do you need to possess to be a HR Analyst?
i know my questions may sound a little juvenile but I was hopping some of you HR experts could advice me here :)
11th February 2005 From Canada, Windsor
Traditionally this was the belief and I would like to disagree to that. HR needs specialised Skills/knowledge and abilities. In the last decade there have been a tremendous change in HR, the function has evloved from pure administrative to strategic, With companies realising the potential of "intangible assets" ( people ) and the dividends they bring , Companies are realising the value HR injects and the need to have Skilled HR professionals who can attract, manage, retain and develop talents in organisations.
As regards to personal attributes, I would have to say, the ability to relate to people genuienelyand the ability to be objective in decision making without losing focus of your empathy skills and organisational goals are key. And the most important would be knowledge of HR and other Organisational functions.
Hope this helps
11th February 2005
if wt u say is true...temme...will i get a job in Hr after ty bms n no experience for abt say 2 -3 yrs...n thn break so i can do my mba?
really confused abt this.....some frenz tellme to give cat this year n do mba n thn job...weras ppl who r workin...some say tht i shd work first n thn do mba......weras some say il lose touch with studies...plz guide
14th February 2005 From India, Mumbai
Hi all,

We can go on debating whether or not to have work experience first & then study MBA or vice -versa.

Coming to the point i would like to share this article on Rethinking MBA education by Lalit Kumar.

Happy Reading..

Cheerio

Rajat Joshi

Rethinking MBA education system (by Lalit kumarPGP, IIM Kozhikode) www.indiainfoline.com

The existing MBA curriculum tends to compartmentalize learning into distinct divisions like marketing, finance, HR, operations or strategy, which is antagonistic to real life business situations. Real life business problems don’t appear in such distinct categories but appear as interplay of various disciplines having implications cutting across these functions. Moreover, the current system of bifurcation of management courses into trimester/semester give the students a piecemeal picture of the whole management practices and they fail to see the linkages among various courses taught. Thus it never crosses in an average student’s mind that pricing methodology learnt in marketing management can be linked to microeconomics to determine appropriate mark-up price or productivity improvement measures learnt in operations management can be linked to organization structure learnt in organization behavior or business strategy learnt in strategic management. The ‘big picture’ or the macro view gets lost somewhere in the mélange of so many functional silos and student fails to develop a holistic view.

This shortcoming can be taken care of by having one year MBA structured as intermix of basic courses in finance, marketing, systems, operations, HR & OB.

The whole course should be structured as one continuous year of learning rather than broken into semester/trimester, which is a piecemeal approach and takes away the continuity in learning. The cases discussed should involve synthesis of ideas and concepts from all the above mentioned disciplines which can give students a feel for integrative thinking.

I reiterate MBA should be only one year course as this makes the learning more effective (fast paced environment spurs on students to perform) and also is a better value proposition for people who have left jobs to pursue academics. The students admitted must be high achievers (to be able to cope up with the work load) having minimum 3 yrs of work experience (the rationale being one doesn’t get to do anything concrete in first 1 or 2 yrs in an organization) so as to be able to relate the theoretical perspectives with experiential learning.

MBA is an ‘action’ course rather than a passive one. You can’t teach a person to swim by imparting him wisdom in the classroom. But if the person has gotten himself wet a few times in the swimming pool and splayed his legs and hands, he will be able to relate and understand the swimming methods taught. Similarly a person with no work experience can’t appreciate the theoretical underpinnings of the practical business situations, simply because he hasn’t ‘tasted the water’.(very true!!..)

The objective of MBA should be to impart intellectual versatility and rigor in thinking to the students rather than making a person specialist in one area (which he can always pick up later on in his career, depending on his interests and realistic judgment of his capability). The specialization system should be done away with, as leaders need to be ‘generalists’ with understanding of all aspects of business. Also it is difficult to pack specialization, which anyway doesn’t make much sense, in one year course.

Moreover, the curriculum should be peppered with readings in sociology, philosophy, economics and other humanities to provide depth in understanding and ability to think through a situation from different perspectives. Adequate stress must be laid on the personal development of the individual and to hone his soft skills like communication, leadership and negotiation skills by role plays, presentations, etc. The course should stress on moving from analysis to action; MBA, in fact, should become a byword for Managing Business Actions.

Such curriculum demands intellectual vigor and continuous peak effort on the part of the students to undergo this kind of fast paced learning. The moot question is - are Indian students ready to take the plunge? The answer seems to be yes as is proven by the success of ISB.
14th February 2005 From India, Pune
but still ...this article isnt helpin..its confusing me all the more.
i wld love a break from studies..this BMS is really time consumin n leaves no social life.so i wld prefer a break in which i work n prepare for CAT
but but but...will i get a job after TYBMS in HRM...n will i be a able to get back to studies?
17th February 2005 From India, Mumbai
Sunanya
I think you should prioritize what you want to do? If you think you need to have couple of years of experience before you do your MBA? start your search, if you think you should finish your MBA first, then study for your MBA entrance. If you ask too many people you will be all the more confused. Decide on one path and lead it to its destination.
Whether you will get a Job or not after your ty bms will depend on your preparation, your KSA ( knowledge, skills and abilities ) and your efforts in locating companies.
Best Wishes
18th February 2005
i think it’ll be better to work first and then do your MBA...well that’s what I’m planning to do...
18th February 2005 From Canada, Windsor
well the thing is I'd like to work for a MNC for like 2-2 1/2 years, I'm not too worried about coming back to school for my MBA...
I just have a personal view that you tend to do better and get more out of your MBA course when you have real life experience... you will be able to relate and apply more effectively...
plus having some years in between can help me pick a good school and learn more about the university... if I'm gonna spend 30-40K on my post-grad education, i really want to pick a good uni...and I think good reputed unis in the US require you to have some experience before joining
Of course I'm also worried that with an MBA I could be "over-qualified" and that would be a problem... so better to get experience first then go to B-School
22nd February 2005 From Canada, Windsor
by the way..dont mind me askin...but how do u plan to land u0p in a mnc ...n wt r u studyin currently?
22nd February 2005 From India, Mumbai
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