Hi all,
I have taken up the HR responsibility for the company where at times I feel an admin person can do the needful. Reasons: There is a lot of micromanagement leading to delay in concrete decisions, a lenient and soft outlook towards everything like policies, procedures, development activities, systems, etc. Big talks of HR terminology, but no strong-headed decisions are taken. I ended up following up for days with no concrete information. I am feeling frustrated and feel like leaving, but on second thoughts, end up giving myself a second chance. I do small bits of HR setup, read, upgrade, acquire information.
Now I need to know from seniors: should I quit as I do not want to end up stagnant, or should I stay back? There's no pressure to leave, perform, or be accountable. But I feel guilty of holding a senior position and not being able to use my expertise effectively. Please share your inputs. :)
From India, Mumbai
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82I have taken up the HR responsibility for the company where at times I feel an admin person can do the needful. Reasons: There is a lot of micromanagement leading to delay in concrete decisions, a lenient and soft outlook towards everything like policies, procedures, development activities, systems, etc. Big talks of HR terminology, but no strong-headed decisions are taken. I ended up following up for days with no concrete information. I am feeling frustrated and feel like leaving, but on second thoughts, end up giving myself a second chance. I do small bits of HR setup, read, upgrade, acquire information.
Now I need to know from seniors: should I quit as I do not want to end up stagnant, or should I stay back? There's no pressure to leave, perform, or be accountable. But I feel guilty of holding a senior position and not being able to use my expertise effectively. Please share your inputs. :)
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Dear Jhuma,
I won't suggest you quit the job out of sheer frustration. The situation you have elaborated on is prevalent in the majority of industries. The HR personnel wear two masks. When they are outside the office, they wear the HR mask, and when within the factory premises, they put on the mask of typical P & A and get engaged in disciplinary proceedings, grievance redressal, general administration, etc.
It's better to wait for the right opportunity and switch to a new job. My best wishes are with you.
From India, Gurgaon
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I won't suggest you quit the job out of sheer frustration. The situation you have elaborated on is prevalent in the majority of industries. The HR personnel wear two masks. When they are outside the office, they wear the HR mask, and when within the factory premises, they put on the mask of typical P & A and get engaged in disciplinary proceedings, grievance redressal, general administration, etc.
It's better to wait for the right opportunity and switch to a new job. My best wishes are with you.
From India, Gurgaon
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Dear Jhuma,
This is the tragedy of being in HR in India, especially if you happen to work in some SME. This is because business leaders in India never understood the importance of the HR function. Neither will they understand it in the near future as well. I say so because a large number of business owners are MBAs. When MBAs don't understand the importance of HR, who else will understand?
Yes, job hopping could be a solution, but then what is the guarantee that you won't jump from the frying pan into the fire?
As a solution, I can recommend you study the systems and processes of your company and find out the gaps. Identify the loss of revenue because of these gaps. Secondly, measure the revenue loss due to gaps in "knowledge and skills" among employees. Make a business case out of this and present it to management. Just check whether this opens the eyes of your management. But then again, you may end up casting pearls before swine. In such a case, it's better to jump to a new job. Why cast pearls before the same swine again and again, by the way? Find a new one. At least you will have the satisfaction of exploring multiple options for your pearls!
Ok...
DVD
From India, Bangalore
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This is the tragedy of being in HR in India, especially if you happen to work in some SME. This is because business leaders in India never understood the importance of the HR function. Neither will they understand it in the near future as well. I say so because a large number of business owners are MBAs. When MBAs don't understand the importance of HR, who else will understand?
Yes, job hopping could be a solution, but then what is the guarantee that you won't jump from the frying pan into the fire?
As a solution, I can recommend you study the systems and processes of your company and find out the gaps. Identify the loss of revenue because of these gaps. Secondly, measure the revenue loss due to gaps in "knowledge and skills" among employees. Make a business case out of this and present it to management. Just check whether this opens the eyes of your management. But then again, you may end up casting pearls before swine. In such a case, it's better to jump to a new job. Why cast pearls before the same swine again and again, by the way? Find a new one. At least you will have the satisfaction of exploring multiple options for your pearls!
Ok...
DVD
From India, Bangalore
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Thanks Apoorva and Dinesh for your feedback. I agree with dinesh that what’s the guarantee of a new assignment. Also job hopping would look bad on resume. Will keep you posted on the updates.
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Jhuma Tiwade,
My views are going to be quite different from the rest. Recently, I had returned home after undergoing SPIRITUAL RELIGIOUS TRAINING for 4 months. I had learned a few things during this training.
1) I cannot change my FATE, which is PRE-WRITTEN by GOD. Whatever GOD WISHES, ONLY THAT THING WILL HAPPEN.
2) We can only work hard, and the rest is in the hands of GOD as he is the SOLE DECISION MAKER.
3) GOD is TESTING everyone, and those who understand his moves can only succeed in his TEST.
4) We should always thank God, whatsoever may be the situation, and develop more patience levels.
5) We should never be TOO AMBITIOUS.
a) You need to understand your ROLES & RESPONSIBILITIES and evaluate your DESIGNATION and POWERS.
b) You must be clear about "WHAT EXACTLY BOARD MEMBERS OR DIRECTOR OR TOP MANAGEMENT IS EXPECTING from you.
c) You can present your views/opinion to the TOP MANAGEMENT only when you are held ACCOUNTABLE for xyz thing (which falls under your purview). Till then, please carry on with your job and think about your FAMILY. In case you can survive without this job, better stay back home and enjoy your life with your FAMILY.
Let me share my past with you because people will only understand the facts when others have suffered in their life. I don't think you will find a better case study than this one. I had paid a big price when I was holding the SECOND HIGHEST POSITION (CHIEF OFFICER OPERATIONS & ADMINISTRATION) in the HIERARCHY after the PRESIDENT. At the time of appointment, my boss was very happy with me as I tried my best to explain everything he asked me. I was not updated on what to do and what not to do. I did my best for the organization by all means, which was HISTORY. As of date, no one has tried to meet my TARGETS/PERFORMANCE and the SYSTEM which I established. My biggest mistake was "I TOOK EVERYTHING FOR GRANTED AND GAVE MORE PREFERENCE TO MY JOB/RESPONSIBILITIES THAN MY FAMILY". Later, I was made to realize that I was a RUBBER STAMP and I AM JUST AN EMPLOYEE LIKE OTHER EMPLOYEES, THOUGH MY DESIGNATION & POWERS WERE EQUIVALENT TO THE PRESIDENT. I was told not to ACT SMART and NOT TO DO ANYTHING WITHOUT THE PERMISSION OF MY BOSS. I was really embarrassed after doing a BIG JOB, and everything was in favor of the organization. I was AMBITIOUS but later lost complete interest, and I couldn't digest the degradation in our relationship as I was expecting to serve/work with the BEST BOSS. I resigned and moved forward. If I had ignored everything, today I would have been drawing RS.1 LAKH (BASIC).
I have no right to advise you, but my sincere and humble suggestion is to "Try to understand the world and do not get EMOTIONAL in LIFE.
Whatever you are held responsible for, kindly execute it with honesty and loyalty. Rest leave it to the DECISION MAKERS/OWNERS.
Never try to be TOO AMBITIOUS. We should always be CALCULATIVE.
If you happen to work with the BEST BOSS who is Aggressive, Passionate, Visionary, Target/Goal oriented, Mentor/Coach, Matured, Experienced, Emotionally balanced, etc., only then you can PRACTICALLY feel what you are.
Have a wonderful life.
With profound regards.
From India, Chennai
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My views are going to be quite different from the rest. Recently, I had returned home after undergoing SPIRITUAL RELIGIOUS TRAINING for 4 months. I had learned a few things during this training.
1) I cannot change my FATE, which is PRE-WRITTEN by GOD. Whatever GOD WISHES, ONLY THAT THING WILL HAPPEN.
2) We can only work hard, and the rest is in the hands of GOD as he is the SOLE DECISION MAKER.
3) GOD is TESTING everyone, and those who understand his moves can only succeed in his TEST.
4) We should always thank God, whatsoever may be the situation, and develop more patience levels.
5) We should never be TOO AMBITIOUS.
a) You need to understand your ROLES & RESPONSIBILITIES and evaluate your DESIGNATION and POWERS.
b) You must be clear about "WHAT EXACTLY BOARD MEMBERS OR DIRECTOR OR TOP MANAGEMENT IS EXPECTING from you.
c) You can present your views/opinion to the TOP MANAGEMENT only when you are held ACCOUNTABLE for xyz thing (which falls under your purview). Till then, please carry on with your job and think about your FAMILY. In case you can survive without this job, better stay back home and enjoy your life with your FAMILY.
Let me share my past with you because people will only understand the facts when others have suffered in their life. I don't think you will find a better case study than this one. I had paid a big price when I was holding the SECOND HIGHEST POSITION (CHIEF OFFICER OPERATIONS & ADMINISTRATION) in the HIERARCHY after the PRESIDENT. At the time of appointment, my boss was very happy with me as I tried my best to explain everything he asked me. I was not updated on what to do and what not to do. I did my best for the organization by all means, which was HISTORY. As of date, no one has tried to meet my TARGETS/PERFORMANCE and the SYSTEM which I established. My biggest mistake was "I TOOK EVERYTHING FOR GRANTED AND GAVE MORE PREFERENCE TO MY JOB/RESPONSIBILITIES THAN MY FAMILY". Later, I was made to realize that I was a RUBBER STAMP and I AM JUST AN EMPLOYEE LIKE OTHER EMPLOYEES, THOUGH MY DESIGNATION & POWERS WERE EQUIVALENT TO THE PRESIDENT. I was told not to ACT SMART and NOT TO DO ANYTHING WITHOUT THE PERMISSION OF MY BOSS. I was really embarrassed after doing a BIG JOB, and everything was in favor of the organization. I was AMBITIOUS but later lost complete interest, and I couldn't digest the degradation in our relationship as I was expecting to serve/work with the BEST BOSS. I resigned and moved forward. If I had ignored everything, today I would have been drawing RS.1 LAKH (BASIC).
I have no right to advise you, but my sincere and humble suggestion is to "Try to understand the world and do not get EMOTIONAL in LIFE.
Whatever you are held responsible for, kindly execute it with honesty and loyalty. Rest leave it to the DECISION MAKERS/OWNERS.
Never try to be TOO AMBITIOUS. We should always be CALCULATIVE.
If you happen to work with the BEST BOSS who is Aggressive, Passionate, Visionary, Target/Goal oriented, Mentor/Coach, Matured, Experienced, Emotionally balanced, etc., only then you can PRACTICALLY feel what you are.
Have a wonderful life.
With profound regards.
From India, Chennai
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Thank you, Abdul, for your personal insight. I hope that one decision did not hold your career back. You are right. After getting some valuable inputs from this site, I am looking at the whole situation with a lighter head and accept that we need to slow down at times. Growth can be lateral too. As someone said, even bad days give good experiences.
Thanks again.
From India, Mumbai
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Thanks again.
From India, Mumbai
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