Hi, This is Sathish. 3 years back, I worked for a private concern. My service with that concern was almost 2 years. Unfortunately, due to my personal reasons, I just left the employer without serving the notice period. When I approached the employer to claim my PF amount, they were not helping me out. They were supposed to certify me and assist in claiming my PF amount, but they are not doing so. I have my PF account number with me.
Can anyone suggest how I can claim my PF account without involving the previous employer? Is there an option to approach the PF office directly?
Regards, Sathish
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1Can anyone suggest how I can claim my PF account without involving the previous employer? Is there an option to approach the PF office directly?
Regards, Sathish
From India, Madras
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Dear Mr.skhanna.printeng, You just fill up the forms and get attested signature from any gazetted officer at the place of Employer sign. you will get the claim automatically.
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[QUOTE=merts;1559600]Dear Mr. Skhanna Printeng,
You just need to fill out the forms and get the signature attested by any gazetted officer in place of the employer's signature. You will receive the claim automatically.
Hi R.T.S,
Thanks for your valuable suggestion. Can you advise me on how long the account will remain activated? It has been almost 3 years since I left that employer. Will there be any issues if I claim now? Is my account still active? Thank you for your understanding.
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Sathish
From India, Madras
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You just need to fill out the forms and get the signature attested by any gazetted officer in place of the employer's signature. You will receive the claim automatically.
Hi R.T.S,
Thanks for your valuable suggestion. Can you advise me on how long the account will remain activated? It has been almost 3 years since I left that employer. Will there be any issues if I claim now? Is my account still active? Thank you for your understanding.
Regards,
Sathish
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As far as my knowledge goes, there is no such provision to claim your PF without the employer's signature. However, if you have a valid reason, you may visit the PF commissioner and obtain their signature in place of the employer, with the assistance of your lawyer. You will need to fill out the form along with a complaint letter and have it signed by the PF commissioner, who will then forward the form to your previous employer. If your employer does not respond, the PF commissioner will take immediate action. This seems to be the only option available to you. Let's wait and see how the seniors respond.
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Hi,
I do agree with Balaji's comment. In addition, I would like to add that for the withdrawal of PF, there is a provision to obtain attestation from a Bank Manager or a Gazetted Officer. This will be applicable only if the employer has closed that unit, for whatever reason.
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I do agree with Balaji's comment. In addition, I would like to add that for the withdrawal of PF, there is a provision to obtain attestation from a Bank Manager or a Gazetted Officer. This will be applicable only if the employer has closed that unit, for whatever reason.
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Hi friend, I do agree that those things are possible only in metropolitan cities. If you visit any district-level offices, they will not accept the form without the signature of the employer. In case the employee has a lawyer, they may compel the employer to provide the signature; otherwise, it is not an easy task at district-level PF offices.
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First of all, speak with your previous employer and explain the inability to serve the notice period and get properly relieved. This will benefit your future employment prospects.
Although you have the right to withdraw your PF accumulations, it is best to transfer them to your present employment account or to the account you will be joining.
However, the following information is for your reference:
Procedure to withdraw the PF amount
Step 1: You can contact the local PF office and collect Form 19 and 10C, or you can download the withdrawal form in Form 19 and 10C, NSSN Form from the [EPFO](http://www.epfindia.nic.in) website.
Step 2: Fill in all the details about yourself and provide your savings bank account number in the forms.
Step 3: Open a savings bank account, preferably with a nationalized bank. Mention the account number in forms 19 and 10C and attach a copy of the first page of the passbook.
Step 4: Send the complete set of forms with enclosures to your previous employer for forwarding the forms to the PF office.
Step 5: Obtain attestation from the bank manager for sending the claim directly to the PF office, if desired.
Step 6: Send the forms to the PF office where your previous employer has accounts by registered post.
You will receive your money in your bank account within 45 days.
Procedure to transfer the PF amount
Step 1: Collect Form 13 from your HR/Personnel department of your present employer, or download the form from the EPFO website.
Step 2: Fill in all the details regarding your PF account with the previous employer, including the name and address of the employer, and sign the form.
Step 3: Submit the form in triplicate to your present employer's HR department.
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Hi,
This is Sathish. Three years ago, I worked for a private concern, and my service with that concern was almost two years. Unfortunately, due to personal reasons, I left the employer without serving the notice period. When I approached the employer to claim my PF amount, they were not helpful in the process. They were supposed to certify and assist me in claiming my PF amount, but they did not do so.
I have my PF account number with me.
Can anyone suggest how I can claim my PF account without interference from the previous employer? Is there an option to approach the PF office directly?
Regards,
Sathish
From India, Madras
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Although you have the right to withdraw your PF accumulations, it is best to transfer them to your present employment account or to the account you will be joining.
However, the following information is for your reference:
Procedure to withdraw the PF amount
Step 1: You can contact the local PF office and collect Form 19 and 10C, or you can download the withdrawal form in Form 19 and 10C, NSSN Form from the [EPFO](http://www.epfindia.nic.in) website.
Step 2: Fill in all the details about yourself and provide your savings bank account number in the forms.
Step 3: Open a savings bank account, preferably with a nationalized bank. Mention the account number in forms 19 and 10C and attach a copy of the first page of the passbook.
Step 4: Send the complete set of forms with enclosures to your previous employer for forwarding the forms to the PF office.
Step 5: Obtain attestation from the bank manager for sending the claim directly to the PF office, if desired.
Step 6: Send the forms to the PF office where your previous employer has accounts by registered post.
You will receive your money in your bank account within 45 days.
Procedure to transfer the PF amount
Step 1: Collect Form 13 from your HR/Personnel department of your present employer, or download the form from the EPFO website.
Step 2: Fill in all the details regarding your PF account with the previous employer, including the name and address of the employer, and sign the form.
Step 3: Submit the form in triplicate to your present employer's HR department.
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Hi,
This is Sathish. Three years ago, I worked for a private concern, and my service with that concern was almost two years. Unfortunately, due to personal reasons, I left the employer without serving the notice period. When I approached the employer to claim my PF amount, they were not helpful in the process. They were supposed to certify and assist me in claiming my PF amount, but they did not do so.
I have my PF account number with me.
Can anyone suggest how I can claim my PF account without interference from the previous employer? Is there an option to approach the PF office directly?
Regards,
Sathish
From India, Madras
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Dear Sathish,
Greetings for the day.
Your EPF accumulation can't be stopped by the employer. You have your EPF account number. Simply fill Form 19 & 10C and enclose a complaint letter with the form which accompanies the fact that your previous employer is not signing the withdrawal claims. Submit the same to the concerned EPF office. The EPFO officials are competent enough to take action against the employer. Secondly, if at present, you have an EPF number with your present company, then transfer your accumulation by simply filling Form 13.
Thanks & Regards,
Sumit Kumar Saxena
9899669071, 0120-4131277
From India, Ghaziabad
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Greetings for the day.
Your EPF accumulation can't be stopped by the employer. You have your EPF account number. Simply fill Form 19 & 10C and enclose a complaint letter with the form which accompanies the fact that your previous employer is not signing the withdrawal claims. Submit the same to the concerned EPF office. The EPFO officials are competent enough to take action against the employer. Secondly, if at present, you have an EPF number with your present company, then transfer your accumulation by simply filling Form 13.
Thanks & Regards,
Sumit Kumar Saxena
9899669071, 0120-4131277
From India, Ghaziabad
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Dear Friends,
I have one doubt. If we transfer our PF account from the previous employer to our current employer, can the previous employer find out our current place of work? A friend of mine asked me this because he does not want his previous employer to know where he is currently employed.
Best Regards,
Manu
From India, Hyderabad
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I have one doubt. If we transfer our PF account from the previous employer to our current employer, can the previous employer find out our current place of work? A friend of mine asked me this because he does not want his previous employer to know where he is currently employed.
Best Regards,
Manu
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After putting in over 25 years of service and planning to resign:
1) Can he withdraw the PF amount?
2) If he joins another company, is it possible to transfer the pension account only to the new EPF account, and if yes, what is the procedure for the same.
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1) Can he withdraw the PF amount?
2) If he joins another company, is it possible to transfer the pension account only to the new EPF account, and if yes, what is the procedure for the same.
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Dear All HR Veteran,
Please ref. below few steps for EPF Claim without employer signature;
Step 1
First download and fill up Form 19 (for EPF withdrawal) and Form 10C (for EPS Withdrawal)
Step 2
Get it attested by any one of the following
Manager of a bank (PSU preferred)
By any gazetted officer.
Magistrate / Post / Sub Post Master / Notary
Step 3
Write down a letter addressing the regional PF commissioner, stating the reason why you have to get it attested and how you are facing issues with your employer. In case you have any proof of unsupportive behaviour from your employer, better attach it. (This step is optional, and not mandatory)
Step 4
If you are unemployed, you will have to make an affidavit that proves that you are unemployed. Download this Affidavit Sample and get it printed on a Rs. 100 stamp paper with a notary or any gazetted officer signature on it (This Affidavit is part of our Jagoinvestor Wealth Club) . This is required because you need to be unemployed if you want to withdraw your EPF . If you are employed, you can transfer your EPF to your new employer.
Step 5
Send these forms to your regional EPF office and wait for next few months for some kind of action.
Step 6
Once your application is processed, the EPF withdrawal request will be honoured and you will be paid. If you still don’t see any action or response, then its time to File an RTI application to EPF Department for finding out the exact Status.
Legal Action against your past employer
Note that Employee provident fund money is totally yours and no matter what the situation, your past employer should be helping you in withdrawing it. It can be some issue your employer or you might have.., your employer can not say that they will not give signatures and create issues in your EPF Withdrawal.
If that’s the case, it might be time to teach them a lesson.
If you are 100% sure that you are correct and it’s a case of harassment, just collect all the documents which proves the harassment and then inform your regional Provided Fund officer about this. He will carry out an enquiry, contact the employer and if he finds them guilty, there can be legal action against the company and might even amount to imprisonment. It’s the Employer’s duty to keep records as per the law and also maintain the terms and conditions, failing which employer can get a notice under a section 7A, which lays the guidelines of strict actions against your past employer.
Regards
Seetarama
+918008843222
From India, Hyderabad
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Please ref. below few steps for EPF Claim without employer signature;
Step 1
First download and fill up Form 19 (for EPF withdrawal) and Form 10C (for EPS Withdrawal)
Step 2
Get it attested by any one of the following
Manager of a bank (PSU preferred)
By any gazetted officer.
Magistrate / Post / Sub Post Master / Notary
Step 3
Write down a letter addressing the regional PF commissioner, stating the reason why you have to get it attested and how you are facing issues with your employer. In case you have any proof of unsupportive behaviour from your employer, better attach it. (This step is optional, and not mandatory)
Step 4
If you are unemployed, you will have to make an affidavit that proves that you are unemployed. Download this Affidavit Sample and get it printed on a Rs. 100 stamp paper with a notary or any gazetted officer signature on it (This Affidavit is part of our Jagoinvestor Wealth Club) . This is required because you need to be unemployed if you want to withdraw your EPF . If you are employed, you can transfer your EPF to your new employer.
Step 5
Send these forms to your regional EPF office and wait for next few months for some kind of action.
Step 6
Once your application is processed, the EPF withdrawal request will be honoured and you will be paid. If you still don’t see any action or response, then its time to File an RTI application to EPF Department for finding out the exact Status.
Legal Action against your past employer
Note that Employee provident fund money is totally yours and no matter what the situation, your past employer should be helping you in withdrawing it. It can be some issue your employer or you might have.., your employer can not say that they will not give signatures and create issues in your EPF Withdrawal.
If that’s the case, it might be time to teach them a lesson.
If you are 100% sure that you are correct and it’s a case of harassment, just collect all the documents which proves the harassment and then inform your regional Provided Fund officer about this. He will carry out an enquiry, contact the employer and if he finds them guilty, there can be legal action against the company and might even amount to imprisonment. It’s the Employer’s duty to keep records as per the law and also maintain the terms and conditions, failing which employer can get a notice under a section 7A, which lays the guidelines of strict actions against your past employer.
Regards
Seetarama
+918008843222
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Dear Sir,
I have been relieved from my position without being provided with a notice period, and the P.F. amount has not been remitted as of today. If I have been relieved without a notice period, could you please advise me on the withdrawal of my P.F. by myself, attested by a gazetted officer?
Regards,
R. Dinesh
From India,
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I have been relieved from my position without being provided with a notice period, and the P.F. amount has not been remitted as of today. If I have been relieved without a notice period, could you please advise me on the withdrawal of my P.F. by myself, attested by a gazetted officer?
Regards,
R. Dinesh
From India,
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I was working with a security services company from July 2008 to July 2013, where they deducted 605/- from my salary and deposited it into my PF account. Now, I want to withdraw my PF amount, but there are some legal issues against the employer, and a lawsuit has been filed in court.
Kindly suggest the procedure for withdrawing PF as soon as possible.
Thanks,
Pramod Kumar
From India, Chiplun
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Kindly suggest the procedure for withdrawing PF as soon as possible.
Thanks,
Pramod Kumar
From India, Chiplun
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For transfer of PF amount — - It is not mandatory for getting signature for PF transfer form. You can put your present employer signature — and it is enough.
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Dear Mr. Satish,
Please visit the above link: https://www.citehr.com/439802-how-ca...ml#post1990527.
Ramakant
From India, Pune
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Please visit the above link: https://www.citehr.com/439802-how-ca...ml#post1990527.
Ramakant
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Dear Sir,
I am currently working at Eicher Trucks and Buses Company for the past 4.2 years and I would like to withdraw my PF money due to urgent circumstances.
Is it possible to withdraw PF money while still employed at the company, or is there another way to receive it?
Your assistance on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your help.
Regards,
Chandra Bhushan
From India, New Delhi
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I am currently working at Eicher Trucks and Buses Company for the past 4.2 years and I would like to withdraw my PF money due to urgent circumstances.
Is it possible to withdraw PF money while still employed at the company, or is there another way to receive it?
Your assistance on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your help.
Regards,
Chandra Bhushan
From India, New Delhi
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Dear Chandra bhushan, You can withdrawal money from your PF A/c but mode of withdrawal money will be different. So let me know the the reason or why do you wan so. Regards, Seetarama Moger
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One of your suggestions speaks about getting the claim signed by a Gazetted Officer instead of the employer. Despite the fact that it's legal, nobody, as a Gazetted Officer, is making the effort to even sign it. What is the way to get it done? Please suggest and comment as soon as possible.
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Hi, I have a doubt regarding PF deduction. In my company, my gross salary is Rs. 16,484. After the deduction of PF and gratuity, my net salary is also Rs. 16,484. However, my salary credited is only Rs. 16,121.
I inquired with my payroll department about the Rs. 303 difference. They explained that Rs. 303 is the employee's PF contribution and an additional Rs. 303 is deducted as the employer's contribution, resulting in the discrepancy in my salary.
I am confused about whether the employer's contribution should be deducted from my salary. Can anyone help clarify this for me? What steps should I take for further clarification in this process? Your guidance on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
From India, Thanjavur
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I inquired with my payroll department about the Rs. 303 difference. They explained that Rs. 303 is the employee's PF contribution and an additional Rs. 303 is deducted as the employer's contribution, resulting in the discrepancy in my salary.
I am confused about whether the employer's contribution should be deducted from my salary. Can anyone help clarify this for me? What steps should I take for further clarification in this process? Your guidance on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi,
This is Jitender Singh. Five years ago, I worked for a Reliance Hyper Mart for about one year and two months. Unfortunately, due to personal reasons, I left the employer without serving the notice period. When I approached the employer to claim my PF amount, they were not helpful in assisting me with the claim process. They were supposed to certify me and assist in claiming my PF amount, but they have not done so.
I have my PF account number with me. Can anyone suggest how I can claim my PF account without involving the previous employer? Is there an option to approach the PF office directly?
Regards,
Jitender Singh
From India, Delhi
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This is Jitender Singh. Five years ago, I worked for a Reliance Hyper Mart for about one year and two months. Unfortunately, due to personal reasons, I left the employer without serving the notice period. When I approached the employer to claim my PF amount, they were not helpful in assisting me with the claim process. They were supposed to certify me and assist in claiming my PF amount, but they have not done so.
I have my PF account number with me. Can anyone suggest how I can claim my PF account without involving the previous employer? Is there an option to approach the PF office directly?
Regards,
Jitender Singh
From India, Delhi
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Hi,
A few months ago, I was working with Vodafone services, and my father was hospitalized. I informed my seniors about this situation, but they terminated me from the company. When I went to fill out my PF form, they asked me to pay Rs 5000, stating that only then would my PF be released from their end.
Kindly suggest what I should do.
From India, Mumbai
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A few months ago, I was working with Vodafone services, and my father was hospitalized. I informed my seniors about this situation, but they terminated me from the company. When I went to fill out my PF form, they asked me to pay Rs 5000, stating that only then would my PF be released from their end.
Kindly suggest what I should do.
From India, Mumbai
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Are medical representatives covered under the Industrial Dispute Act as they are deemed workmen under certain sections of the SPE Act? Is the Model Standing Order applicable to them, or is the appointment letter the only guiding document for them, which management frames as per their own discretion and is not certified by any government authority?
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Hello All,
I am having the same question about claiming PF money without the employer's signature. Is it okay if we get the signature of the Branch Manager from any nationalized bank? Apart from form 19 and 10C, do we need any documents to send to the PF office?
Thanks,
Hardik
From United%20States, Austin
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I am having the same question about claiming PF money without the employer's signature. Is it okay if we get the signature of the Branch Manager from any nationalized bank? Apart from form 19 and 10C, do we need any documents to send to the PF office?
Thanks,
Hardik
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sir, maine 5 month ho gaya pf form apply kie hue per avi tak mera pf balance nahi aya hai merea pf number hai DL/CPM /41158/06266 AUR dusra hai MH/BAN/22919/20400. mera contact number hai 07739173679
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I work in an MNC, but in my previous company, I didn't serve the notice period due to some reason. Now, they are claiming money from me because I didn't serve the notice period, and they are also not signing the PF form. Can anyone suggest what to do now?
Please advise on the best course of action in this situation.
From India, Mumbai
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Please advise on the best course of action in this situation.
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Hi, I was working for IBM Daksh in Bangalore from 2006 until November 2009. I completely forgot about PF withdrawal. Is it possible for me to claim my PF amount? If so, could you please let me know the procedure?
Prior to IBM Daksh, I was working for IBM India. There, again, my PF number was different, and I worked there since 2004. Is there any possibility for me to get back my PF amount?
From India, Coimbatore
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Prior to IBM Daksh, I was working for IBM India. There, again, my PF number was different, and I worked there since 2004. Is there any possibility for me to get back my PF amount?
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Dear Friend Now the recent PF amendment came. According to this The Employer signature is not necessary. Attached the GO for your reference and records Alphonse EX Manager HRA 9443625359
From India, Madras
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Hello sir, This is Ashish,I dont have PF Account number on my salary slip how can i Withdrawal my PF amount my company was close last 2 years. Best Regards Ashish
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Dear Friends,
My mom used to work for a company that closed down under illegal circumstances nearly 10 years ago. Despite the closure, she possesses her PF number and company ID card. Could anyone advise me on how to go about claiming the PF amount, please?
Thank you.
From India, Bengaluru
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My mom used to work for a company that closed down under illegal circumstances nearly 10 years ago. Despite the closure, she possesses her PF number and company ID card. Could anyone advise me on how to go about claiming the PF amount, please?
Thank you.
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Dear Murgesh,
You can withdraw your mother's EPF in the following ways: First, you should know the EPF number. The UAN allotted to the member should be activated, and nominee details should be updated using the UAN portal. Next, fill out Form 19 and 10 C and have them attested by any Class I Officer of the Government, including the Central Government, or a notarized advocate.
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Eswar
From India, Vadodara
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You can withdraw your mother's EPF in the following ways: First, you should know the EPF number. The UAN allotted to the member should be activated, and nominee details should be updated using the UAN portal. Next, fill out Form 19 and 10 C and have them attested by any Class I Officer of the Government, including the Central Government, or a notarized advocate.
Regards,
Eswar
From India, Vadodara
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Hi,
I worked for an organization for 2 years. Later, I moved to another company. After 1 month, I left the previous organization, and they completely closed it. Now, I need to withdraw my PF money. How can I do that? Can anyone suggest a way?
Thank you.
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I worked for an organization for 2 years. Later, I moved to another company. After 1 month, I left the previous organization, and they completely closed it. Now, I need to withdraw my PF money. How can I do that? Can anyone suggest a way?
Thank you.
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Hello, sir,
My PF number is MR/MRT/1064008/000/03 (Chandan Negi). I submitted my PF form two months ago at the PF office. Please, sir, help me get my PF form accepted and transfer my PF balance to my bank account.
My mobile number is 9690287640.
My bank account number is 499102010085236 at Union Bank.
Thank you.
From India, Delhi
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My PF number is MR/MRT/1064008/000/03 (Chandan Negi). I submitted my PF form two months ago at the PF office. Please, sir, help me get my PF form accepted and transfer my PF balance to my bank account.
My mobile number is 9690287640.
My bank account number is 499102010085236 at Union Bank.
Thank you.
From India, Delhi
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