Hey all,
We have a manager, a star performer, a good human being, and a good manager (read leader) as well. I'm facing a problem with him; whenever we have a training program on motivation, he says it is only money that motivates people. When I argue, he says, "You are a lady, so you won't understand how much money is required to run a household." 😡 He believes that all the motivational theories we have read in MBA are good to read but difficult to practice. He firmly believes in the Carrot and Stick theory, though.
I would also like to know, is it only money we work for? Is it true that theories such as Maslow's, ERG, Herzberg, and others do not work at all in practical organizations? Please share your views on this; don't just read this, kindly contribute as well.
Cheers!!! Archna
From India, Delhi
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115We have a manager, a star performer, a good human being, and a good manager (read leader) as well. I'm facing a problem with him; whenever we have a training program on motivation, he says it is only money that motivates people. When I argue, he says, "You are a lady, so you won't understand how much money is required to run a household." 😡 He believes that all the motivational theories we have read in MBA are good to read but difficult to practice. He firmly believes in the Carrot and Stick theory, though.
I would also like to know, is it only money we work for? Is it true that theories such as Maslow's, ERG, Herzberg, and others do not work at all in practical organizations? Please share your views on this; don't just read this, kindly contribute as well.
Cheers!!! Archna
From India, Delhi
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Hi all,
I can understand your problem very well. To tell you the truth, money is definitely a significant motivator. In fact, many employees switch jobs to pursue higher salaries. However, it cannot be concluded that money is the sole motivator, as people also leave jobs due to poor boss-employee relations or a bad relationship with their immediate supervisor, even at the expense of good company benefits and high remuneration.
Moreover, if you ask anyone who considers money the primary motivator whether they would take a job as a sweeper for Rs. 20,000 or a higher-paying position, most would likely say no. This indicates that we do consider our social needs, education, and self-actualization requirements, demonstrating that motivational theories are not merely theoretical but also applicable in practical life.
Additionally, I firmly believe that McClelland's theory of motivation, encompassing power, achievement, and affiliation, manifests in reality. We encounter such executives and managers in our daily corporate lives.
Please share your views.
Cheers,
Paulami
From India, Calcutta
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I can understand your problem very well. To tell you the truth, money is definitely a significant motivator. In fact, many employees switch jobs to pursue higher salaries. However, it cannot be concluded that money is the sole motivator, as people also leave jobs due to poor boss-employee relations or a bad relationship with their immediate supervisor, even at the expense of good company benefits and high remuneration.
Moreover, if you ask anyone who considers money the primary motivator whether they would take a job as a sweeper for Rs. 20,000 or a higher-paying position, most would likely say no. This indicates that we do consider our social needs, education, and self-actualization requirements, demonstrating that motivational theories are not merely theoretical but also applicable in practical life.
Additionally, I firmly believe that McClelland's theory of motivation, encompassing power, achievement, and affiliation, manifests in reality. We encounter such executives and managers in our daily corporate lives.
Please share your views.
Cheers,
Paulami
From India, Calcutta
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Hi,
Motivational theories do work in reality. Taking the example of Herzberg's Theory, it consists of both hygiene factors and motivation factors. Hygiene factors alone do not motivate, but their absence would certainly cause dissatisfaction. The motivation factors go beyond this.
Another example is that pay packages are designed according to Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.
Regards,
Mallet.
From India, Hyderabad
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Motivational theories do work in reality. Taking the example of Herzberg's Theory, it consists of both hygiene factors and motivation factors. Hygiene factors alone do not motivate, but their absence would certainly cause dissatisfaction. The motivation factors go beyond this.
Another example is that pay packages are designed according to Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.
Regards,
Mallet.
From India, Hyderabad
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Hi Paulami and Mallet,
Good to see your valuable comments on the topic. My belief is also that it is not just money that motivates people; working conditions, job profile, growth chart, and career planning are also part of it. I have seen many people still believing that money is a greater motivator than any other factor.
My question to all is, do you all use these theories in your organizations? Is it practical to apply these theories easily? If so, can you share some examples?
Cheers!!! Archna
From India, Delhi
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Good to see your valuable comments on the topic. My belief is also that it is not just money that motivates people; working conditions, job profile, growth chart, and career planning are also part of it. I have seen many people still believing that money is a greater motivator than any other factor.
My question to all is, do you all use these theories in your organizations? Is it practical to apply these theories easily? If so, can you share some examples?
Cheers!!! Archna
From India, Delhi
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Hey Archana,
I understand your problem, but I must say your boss is wrong here to mention my case. I am working as an Executive HR with a decent compensation, but I do want more. It is not just work that I want more of; I would also want more responsibility with personal and professional growth. Money can be a great motivator, but not beyond a certain extent. If you get the best money you can expect but not enough work to keep you occupied, it would surely make you discontent with the work. So, it's absolutely not just money that keeps one going; it's also the quality and content of work, the individual contribution towards reaching organizational goals, and your ability to make a difference in the organization.
As far as motivation is concerned, employees may be doing their routine job, but in the course of their work, they tend to lose the drive due to overwork and personal problems, which would result in lower productivity and the zeal to go that extra mile. Hence, these motivational programs help the team to keep that zeal, enthusiasm, and internal drive going. I completely support your point of view, Archana. Please go ahead with your programs. If your boss is not convinced about it, please show him the deliverables of the program with the help of a PowerPoint presentation on the benefits of training. Also, do some number crunching about the motivation programs done in various companies and the difference they made. I assure you the facts you will find will be earth-shattering.
Thank you.
Regards,
Bhushan
From India, Mumbai
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I understand your problem, but I must say your boss is wrong here to mention my case. I am working as an Executive HR with a decent compensation, but I do want more. It is not just work that I want more of; I would also want more responsibility with personal and professional growth. Money can be a great motivator, but not beyond a certain extent. If you get the best money you can expect but not enough work to keep you occupied, it would surely make you discontent with the work. So, it's absolutely not just money that keeps one going; it's also the quality and content of work, the individual contribution towards reaching organizational goals, and your ability to make a difference in the organization.
As far as motivation is concerned, employees may be doing their routine job, but in the course of their work, they tend to lose the drive due to overwork and personal problems, which would result in lower productivity and the zeal to go that extra mile. Hence, these motivational programs help the team to keep that zeal, enthusiasm, and internal drive going. I completely support your point of view, Archana. Please go ahead with your programs. If your boss is not convinced about it, please show him the deliverables of the program with the help of a PowerPoint presentation on the benefits of training. Also, do some number crunching about the motivation programs done in various companies and the difference they made. I assure you the facts you will find will be earth-shattering.
Thank you.
Regards,
Bhushan
From India, Mumbai
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Money is a motivator - Certainly. But it is a bad motivator. The motivation gained from money will not last long; it will soon wane away, breeding greed. Money as a motivator needs to be used prudently, as its measurability varies from person to person, making it unreliable.
The real motivation lies in the culture and character of an organization. These aspects will foster loyalty.
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Venkat
From India, Mumbai
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The real motivation lies in the culture and character of an organization. These aspects will foster loyalty.
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Venkat
From India, Mumbai
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Money motivates people, but it is not the first priority.
However, I would like to make a statement here: "Is it all about money?" Whatever we do as HR for people, at the end of the day, if it does not add to the pay package, does it really motivate people?
Mallet.
From India, Hyderabad
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However, I would like to make a statement here: "Is it all about money?" Whatever we do as HR for people, at the end of the day, if it does not add to the pay package, does it really motivate people?
Mallet.
From India, Hyderabad
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All motivation theories are relevant. COMPENSATION MANAGEMENT and PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT practices entirely rest on these theories. The essence of all these theories is MOTIVATORS:
1. MONEY
2. JOB SATISFACTION
3. RELATIONSHIPS/AFFILIATION
4. POWER/EMPOWERMENT/INVOLVEMENT
5. LEADERSHIP
6. FAIR AND EQUITABLE TREATMENT BY ORGANIZATION/LEADERSHIP
7. GROWTH/CAREER/IMPROVEMENT THROUGH TRAINING
8. JOB SECURITY
Valence varies from person to person, generation to generation, etc. From my 40 years of varied work/consulting/teaching experience, my older generation valued SECURITY and money more. Today's generation values CAREER GROWTH and Achievement more. All the 8 are important, but today CAREER GROWTH and Job satisfaction (Opportunity to achieve) are MORE important.
Regards, all the best MICOKRISH
From India, Bangalore
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1. MONEY
2. JOB SATISFACTION
3. RELATIONSHIPS/AFFILIATION
4. POWER/EMPOWERMENT/INVOLVEMENT
5. LEADERSHIP
6. FAIR AND EQUITABLE TREATMENT BY ORGANIZATION/LEADERSHIP
7. GROWTH/CAREER/IMPROVEMENT THROUGH TRAINING
8. JOB SECURITY
Valence varies from person to person, generation to generation, etc. From my 40 years of varied work/consulting/teaching experience, my older generation valued SECURITY and money more. Today's generation values CAREER GROWTH and Achievement more. All the 8 are important, but today CAREER GROWTH and Job satisfaction (Opportunity to achieve) are MORE important.
Regards, all the best MICOKRISH
From India, Bangalore
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Motivational Theories are all relevant and Practical too in day-to-day life.
Though Money tops the priority level for performing certain tasks, its all the Level of performance that matter to all individuals, meaning, what is the present position of a person and where he would like to see himself on Hierarchy level.
As the person grows up in life his maturity and motivational levels also do change
Priorities change according to the Needs- Need Theory: Money Expectation will be there according to the level of experience, Entry level job seekers have different ways of looking at things compared to Mid Level person and then Senior Levels. Once we cross certain level money will follow your position and your competencies. Then what we look for is different view of the world at an outset.
Todays Markets design jobs according to slabs they have but for only Mr Perfect, Slabs can be slightly modified.
Lets say a software programmer, what matters to him is the Project rather then the Industry that he is working in or for that matter money would play a vital role depending on the position he is holding.
For Call Center money is there initially but what motivates people since the time they are onboard-Hezberg Theory. Let think about what are the different strategies that companies would come out with day in day out in order to retains its performing employees….
Interesting topic, Hope my inputs on the same is also valuable for our further discussion.
Have a Wonderful Day,
Thanks & Regards
RK
From India, Hyderabad
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Though Money tops the priority level for performing certain tasks, its all the Level of performance that matter to all individuals, meaning, what is the present position of a person and where he would like to see himself on Hierarchy level.
As the person grows up in life his maturity and motivational levels also do change
Priorities change according to the Needs- Need Theory: Money Expectation will be there according to the level of experience, Entry level job seekers have different ways of looking at things compared to Mid Level person and then Senior Levels. Once we cross certain level money will follow your position and your competencies. Then what we look for is different view of the world at an outset.
Todays Markets design jobs according to slabs they have but for only Mr Perfect, Slabs can be slightly modified.
Lets say a software programmer, what matters to him is the Project rather then the Industry that he is working in or for that matter money would play a vital role depending on the position he is holding.
For Call Center money is there initially but what motivates people since the time they are onboard-Hezberg Theory. Let think about what are the different strategies that companies would come out with day in day out in order to retains its performing employees….
Interesting topic, Hope my inputs on the same is also valuable for our further discussion.
Have a Wonderful Day,
Thanks & Regards
RK
From India, Hyderabad
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Hi,
I do believe that motivational theories do matter a lot. The most common in today's management practices would be Herzberg's hygiene and motivator factor theory.
I shall state a practical example.
I have a friend who works for a big foreign language center in South Bombay for the last 7 years, and she is the immediate assistant to the director. Her starting pay was around 14,000, and now after seven years, it's around 21,000. Her job profile also includes training other staff at the center. She gets a particular percentage of increase in her salary every year, and she admits her salary is not the best in the industry even after 7 years of work.
She does not want to leave because the motivator factors like quick sanction of leave applications, exceptional treatment from higher officials, training abroad (one month training in Paris once a year), flexibility in working hours, and excellent working conditions make her satisfied enough to work there.
Thank you.
Best Regards,
Bhavik SHAH
From France, Nantes
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I do believe that motivational theories do matter a lot. The most common in today's management practices would be Herzberg's hygiene and motivator factor theory.
I shall state a practical example.
I have a friend who works for a big foreign language center in South Bombay for the last 7 years, and she is the immediate assistant to the director. Her starting pay was around 14,000, and now after seven years, it's around 21,000. Her job profile also includes training other staff at the center. She gets a particular percentage of increase in her salary every year, and she admits her salary is not the best in the industry even after 7 years of work.
She does not want to leave because the motivator factors like quick sanction of leave applications, exceptional treatment from higher officials, training abroad (one month training in Paris once a year), flexibility in working hours, and excellent working conditions make her satisfied enough to work there.
Thank you.
Best Regards,
Bhavik SHAH
From France, Nantes
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No doubt, the urge to earn money is a great motivator. But the biggest motivator of them all is the ideological motivation. This ideology may be good or bad, but it can propel people to do seemingly impossible things which money cannot. A case in point is people driven to do insane (according to others) things under political, religious, or racial doctrines.
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Hi All,
It is really a relevant concern. Thank you, Archana, for voicing it and Mikorish for a valuable insight. The motivation theories do apply. Maslow's, in particular, holds good for many contexts. But there is a corollary. Each theory must also factor in the life cycle stage of the person, his career cycle, and the fact that all of us have extrinsic and intrinsic motivations. When a person is motivated purely by money, he is allowing himself to be dominated by extrinsic motivators, and his need for self-fulfillment will seemingly take a back seat.
Stop to see his situation in the cycle of life; most likely, he will be in the age group of 25-35 where his extrinsic responsibilities pull him. If he is a STAR, given time he will figure out that money will cease to motivate him if he is denied the opportunity to develop his professional and personal competencies. Read V. S. Mahesh's East-West model of Motivation for deeper insight.
BE-U-To-Full,
Shreya
From India, Bangalore
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It is really a relevant concern. Thank you, Archana, for voicing it and Mikorish for a valuable insight. The motivation theories do apply. Maslow's, in particular, holds good for many contexts. But there is a corollary. Each theory must also factor in the life cycle stage of the person, his career cycle, and the fact that all of us have extrinsic and intrinsic motivations. When a person is motivated purely by money, he is allowing himself to be dominated by extrinsic motivators, and his need for self-fulfillment will seemingly take a back seat.
Stop to see his situation in the cycle of life; most likely, he will be in the age group of 25-35 where his extrinsic responsibilities pull him. If he is a STAR, given time he will figure out that money will cease to motivate him if he is denied the opportunity to develop his professional and personal competencies. Read V. S. Mahesh's East-West model of Motivation for deeper insight.
BE-U-To-Full,
Shreya
From India, Bangalore
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Hello friends,
Archanaji, I guess the manager that you're talking about is a young guy, I mean probably it's his first job or fresh from college. If he is so, he is right from his perspective as he has to carry out his own personal responsibilities for which he has to be financially sound, and at the same time, his family background will also come into the picture. According to theory itself, things like job satisfaction, better prospects, etc., which I can relate to self-actualization, will come at later stages of life. As far as I know, theories, especially psychological, can't be taken as the Bible or as mathematical models where you can predict very well.
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Archanaji, I guess the manager that you're talking about is a young guy, I mean probably it's his first job or fresh from college. If he is so, he is right from his perspective as he has to carry out his own personal responsibilities for which he has to be financially sound, and at the same time, his family background will also come into the picture. According to theory itself, things like job satisfaction, better prospects, etc., which I can relate to self-actualization, will come at later stages of life. As far as I know, theories, especially psychological, can't be taken as the Bible or as mathematical models where you can predict very well.
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Hi Archana,
It depends on individual perception. Explain to your boss how strongly you believe in motivational factors. Of course, what your boss also said is right. We cannot implement everything we learn in MBA. Motivational factors should be based on realism, not just theory.
Thank you for providing me with the opportunity to share my views with everyone.
Regards,
Mohhan Reddy.k
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It depends on individual perception. Explain to your boss how strongly you believe in motivational factors. Of course, what your boss also said is right. We cannot implement everything we learn in MBA. Motivational factors should be based on realism, not just theory.
Thank you for providing me with the opportunity to share my views with everyone.
Regards,
Mohhan Reddy.k
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Dear Archna,
I think Paulomi, Bhushan, micoKrish, rkandadai, and ragamuffin99 have all put in very salient (good) points.
However, I would like to add my own views:
Firstly, money becomes the main motivator when an individual is genuinely not making enough money to meet his most pressing needs; in such a case, he will keep on changing jobs until he comes to a level where he can relax a little and consider motivational factors other than money; in most cases, he will then settle down and make a change only if another job offers him more motivation (even if it does not offer him more money). This is, of course, assuming that his work output continues to keep pace with the money he earns, and he is worth being retained by the employer. He can also be frank with his employer and tell him why he has to look for another position, and if his employer feels he is good enough, then his money can be enhanced, enough to retain him.
There are youngsters, however, who look only for money - more money - and jump from job to job only because more money is offered in each case; such a person does not care for motivation other than money and has no staying power. If you try to retain such a youngster by offering him more and more money, you will end up by giving him more money than he is worth - and he becomes unproductive deadwood. Such a person can be easily identified from his past work history, and should not be taken on in the first place; you may realize his motives only after you have employed him; in such a case, do not try to retain him when he mentions he has received a better offer. Let him go.
Paulomi and the others are also right when they say that each individual case is to be viewed in its light. No generalizations can be made.
Also, from a personal viewpoint, though Maslow et al's theories are very thought-provoking, they are only guides, and not to be treated as gospel truth.
I think you have enough matter to be able to convince your Manager that he should keep an open mind and treat each individual case on its merits!
Jeroo
From India, Mumbai
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I think Paulomi, Bhushan, micoKrish, rkandadai, and ragamuffin99 have all put in very salient (good) points.
However, I would like to add my own views:
Firstly, money becomes the main motivator when an individual is genuinely not making enough money to meet his most pressing needs; in such a case, he will keep on changing jobs until he comes to a level where he can relax a little and consider motivational factors other than money; in most cases, he will then settle down and make a change only if another job offers him more motivation (even if it does not offer him more money). This is, of course, assuming that his work output continues to keep pace with the money he earns, and he is worth being retained by the employer. He can also be frank with his employer and tell him why he has to look for another position, and if his employer feels he is good enough, then his money can be enhanced, enough to retain him.
There are youngsters, however, who look only for money - more money - and jump from job to job only because more money is offered in each case; such a person does not care for motivation other than money and has no staying power. If you try to retain such a youngster by offering him more and more money, you will end up by giving him more money than he is worth - and he becomes unproductive deadwood. Such a person can be easily identified from his past work history, and should not be taken on in the first place; you may realize his motives only after you have employed him; in such a case, do not try to retain him when he mentions he has received a better offer. Let him go.
Paulomi and the others are also right when they say that each individual case is to be viewed in its light. No generalizations can be made.
Also, from a personal viewpoint, though Maslow et al's theories are very thought-provoking, they are only guides, and not to be treated as gospel truth.
I think you have enough matter to be able to convince your Manager that he should keep an open mind and treat each individual case on its merits!
Jeroo
From India, Mumbai
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Hi, thanks to all wonderful people,
I am glad to receive such good points to raise to that Manager.
I would like to clarify that this Manager is not a fresher and has been working with our organization for the last 16 years. He was the first employee of the company. He has a problem of making his point of view dominantly implemented.
He is earning a good amount of money. He had a scooter 16 years ago, then it was a bike, then a Maruti 800, then he bought an Esteem, then he got a Honda City, and now he has his own Corolla. This shows the kind of money he makes, nearly a lakh per month, and he is just 37.
He is not my boss. He has given a wonderful team to our company. All the people given to him are doing a fantastic job and have developed with time.
But they all are the same — they all think that more money brings more motivation. If I give them any logic, it is like a lady does not have many responsibilities to handle, and so you won't understand that money is most important for all needs.
I would surely implement suggestions given by you all. I'll share the results as soon as I get a chance to discuss this with my colleague (Manager).
Thanks once again.
Cheers,
Archna
From India, Delhi
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I am glad to receive such good points to raise to that Manager.
I would like to clarify that this Manager is not a fresher and has been working with our organization for the last 16 years. He was the first employee of the company. He has a problem of making his point of view dominantly implemented.
He is earning a good amount of money. He had a scooter 16 years ago, then it was a bike, then a Maruti 800, then he bought an Esteem, then he got a Honda City, and now he has his own Corolla. This shows the kind of money he makes, nearly a lakh per month, and he is just 37.
He is not my boss. He has given a wonderful team to our company. All the people given to him are doing a fantastic job and have developed with time.
But they all are the same — they all think that more money brings more motivation. If I give them any logic, it is like a lady does not have many responsibilities to handle, and so you won't understand that money is most important for all needs.
I would surely implement suggestions given by you all. I'll share the results as soon as I get a chance to discuss this with my colleague (Manager).
Thanks once again.
Cheers,
Archna
From India, Delhi
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Hi Archana,
I suggest you ask your manager just one question: If you were to offer him a CEO's salary or increase his salary by a flat 50%, would he be willing to work as an office boy or a car washer? Alternatively, in a more professional manner, would he accept a demotion with a higher salary and work as one of his juniors? I am confident he would struggle to justify his response. I recommend you consider exploring this possibility. However, it is crucial to handle this situation with care and tact.
Regards,
Pooja
From India, Pune
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I suggest you ask your manager just one question: If you were to offer him a CEO's salary or increase his salary by a flat 50%, would he be willing to work as an office boy or a car washer? Alternatively, in a more professional manner, would he accept a demotion with a higher salary and work as one of his juniors? I am confident he would struggle to justify his response. I recommend you consider exploring this possibility. However, it is crucial to handle this situation with care and tact.
Regards,
Pooja
From India, Pune
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We all work to earn money, monitory rewards are highly welcomed. But if our work is not recognized or appreciated we will lose interest in our job and it will have an impact on our output and productivity. Employees could perform well if they know that they get increments and bonuses for their performance but if they are not satisfied with their work environment or not comfortable with their subordinates or if they feel that they are not treated in the right manner, their commitment to the company will be in question. These employees will look for other job opportunities where they have mental satisfaction so that they can gain total job satisfaction and perform well and gain benefits. This might cause the organization to lose a valued employee where a new recruit may not fill that vacancy up to satisfaction of his predecessor
A classic example is, imagine two employees earning the same salary and their performance are neck to neck. But the management always praises and recognizes only one employee due to various reasons. Automatically the other employee's performance and motivation to work and his performance will drop. The success of the company depends on a group of people's achievements and not based on an individual's effort. If there is no team spirit and coordination with co workers, it will effect the growth of the organization. So only monetary benefits cannot motivate and keep an employee happy and satisfied all the time, the intangible benefits also equally plays a major roll of the existence of the employee in the organization and motivating him to give his best and work closely with his subordinates. Managers should over see that the employees are rewarded financially as well as none financially in means of recognition, appreciation and showing their importance of existence.
Motivation, unlike before now has taken a different turn altogether. Motivation used to be a high paid salary with other benefits such as allowance, increments, performance based pay, incentives etc. But in the current day motivation is more than the tangible benefits received by the employee, the intangible benefits which affects the minds of the employee are known to be the motivational factors. The feeling of being wanted by the company, the recognition, the feeling of importance and being appreciated, the interest in the job, the room for growth in the organization, working conditions, subordinates, supervision etc. help lessen the dissatisfaction of the employee.
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A classic example is, imagine two employees earning the same salary and their performance are neck to neck. But the management always praises and recognizes only one employee due to various reasons. Automatically the other employee's performance and motivation to work and his performance will drop. The success of the company depends on a group of people's achievements and not based on an individual's effort. If there is no team spirit and coordination with co workers, it will effect the growth of the organization. So only monetary benefits cannot motivate and keep an employee happy and satisfied all the time, the intangible benefits also equally plays a major roll of the existence of the employee in the organization and motivating him to give his best and work closely with his subordinates. Managers should over see that the employees are rewarded financially as well as none financially in means of recognition, appreciation and showing their importance of existence.
Motivation, unlike before now has taken a different turn altogether. Motivation used to be a high paid salary with other benefits such as allowance, increments, performance based pay, incentives etc. But in the current day motivation is more than the tangible benefits received by the employee, the intangible benefits which affects the minds of the employee are known to be the motivational factors. The feeling of being wanted by the company, the recognition, the feeling of importance and being appreciated, the interest in the job, the room for growth in the organization, working conditions, subordinates, supervision etc. help lessen the dissatisfaction of the employee.
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Hey guys,
Thank you! I'm working on all the suggestions given by you all. I'm happy to have received so many good points. I have started this discussion with him today and mentioned some ideas like offering more money and changing your job profile. He asked me, "What can you offer?" I suggested something like assisting the Sales and Marketing Director. Hopefully, you will be happy with that as you are getting more money, which should motivate you.
Till now, I have not received any response from him. I hope it will work.
Thanks again,
Archna
From India, Delhi
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Thank you! I'm working on all the suggestions given by you all. I'm happy to have received so many good points. I have started this discussion with him today and mentioned some ideas like offering more money and changing your job profile. He asked me, "What can you offer?" I suggested something like assisting the Sales and Marketing Director. Hopefully, you will be happy with that as you are getting more money, which should motivate you.
Till now, I have not received any response from him. I hope it will work.
Thanks again,
Archna
From India, Delhi
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Ya, money plays a major role in motivation, but it's not everything. Besides money, there are many other factors that can serve as good motivators. Motivation can come from various sources, depending on an individual's need hierarchy. Nobody can ignore the theories of motivation, but their applicability depends on the individual, organizational surroundings, culture, needs, etc.
If your star performer is not accepting these ideas, it may indicate that he doesn't want to think outside the box. He may believe that he is always right. Therefore, there is a need to change his mindset, and for that, counseling from your side is required.
I know that you can do it. Keep it up. Best of luck.
From India, Mundra
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If your star performer is not accepting these ideas, it may indicate that he doesn't want to think outside the box. He may believe that he is always right. Therefore, there is a need to change his mindset, and for that, counseling from your side is required.
I know that you can do it. Keep it up. Best of luck.
From India, Mundra
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Self-Motivation is the best Motivation
Introduction
Today is 05th Nov. 2006 and people in this part of the world are celebrating "Guruparav"…"Birthday of Guru Nanak Dev". I am sitting here and thinking as what is the motive of our life? What is very purpose of our life? What makes us to wake-up early in the morning and rush for work or college or school? What is that keeps us to continue? Is living – a compulsion? Just because everybody is living…I will also live.
What motivates you?
Power
Position,
Money,
Valuable goods and assets,
Growth,
Acceptance and Respect,
Appreciation, rewards and awards
These are the motivators are most of us, right? (Can to list down few more?). These are the good enough motivators to keep us running throughout the life…to keep us charged. These are the factors, which keep some people "loyal like a dog"; "work like a donkey" and "keep jumping…like a monkey".
You can read the complete article at: <link outdated-removed>
Some simple (Traditional) Motivators…
Let me discuss some "Orthodox" motivators, which also work, are some people.
1) Responsibility: You might have seen in some movies…might also have seen in your own family, when a guy is irresponsible, spending too much time outside…parents usually say, "Iski Shaadi kar do; jimmeyvari aayegi to khud samajhdaar ho jaayega" (Get him married. Once he gets responsibilities, he too becomes responsible). Don't you think that "enforced responsibility" also motivates some people? Then he knows that now he is not alone…he need to work for his wife, for his family and then for their future. In India,(People say that) things doesn't work until and unless they are enforced or until and unless it is compulsion (no other way).
2) Looking beyond your sight:
A. You are always able to see one side of the coin…you sure want to see the other side.
B. You are able to see a huge mountain…you always want to see…what is there on the other side.
C. You are in a ocean…everywhere you see water, water and only water…you want to know where is the end.
That is called as "Motivation to know more"…motivation to know more than what you already know.
3) Power of Dreams: This is, seeing the unseen. Seeing, what no one has ever seen. Having a dream is a motivation but that is not enough. Passion to make that dreams a reality is a bigger motivation.
A. If you have dream…
B. If you have passion…
C. If you are not afraid to fail…
D. If you are not worried about the end result…
E. If you have zeal to continue, in spite of problems …
…then no one is more motivated then what you are. You don't need any external motivator. You will always be charged and ready to go.
You can read the complete article at: <link outdated-removed>
Learning from life
More than the above mentioned…if you look around, you would find that there are so many small-small and little facts of life; thoughts and experiences around us, which are big enough to keep us, motivated all the time. Have a look at the following:
1) Many parents kill their "unborn children" (Foeticide)…either by chance or by choice. It can be miscarriage or abortion or any other accident. We are fortunate enough that our parents let us to see this "wonderful" world.
2) Many people are unfortunate. They are handicap. They cannot see, cannot listen, cannot talk, they don't have any of the limb…they are suffering from deadly diseases. We are health. Isn't it a good thought to keep us motivated?
3) There are those families, which are poor. They don't earn enough to eat three times in a day. We are doing well enough to eat three times a day…that too hygienic and quality food.
4) People have two sets of dresses (People in some parts of the world…don't have anything to wear). They wash one and wear another one. We have so many in our wardrobe.
5) Many people are not fortunate enough to get good education…either there are no facilities or they just cannot afford. We are educated enough to take our decisions and decide things which are good or bad for us.
6) Those who are educated, not all are employed. We are not only employed but doing good enough to take care of ourselves, our family and chase our dreams.
7) Doesn't matter if it is summer, winter or rainy season…some people are just in care of nature. They don't have house. They don't have place to stay. We have house…that we all call "Home Sweet Home".
8) Everyday there are so many accidents, natural calamities (Cyclone, Floods, Earthquakes etc) killing thousands of people. We are fortunate that we are alive today and are with our family and relatives.
Aren't these fact are good enough for you to keep you motivated and feel satisfied and content.
You can read the complete article at: <link outdated-removed>
Conclusion
Life will become miserable…it will become hell if you start
A. Finding faults is others
B. Taking revenge
C. Thinking negative
D. Complaining
E. Harming others
But life will become heaven, if
A. You start counting your blessings
B. You start thinking that there are more people who love you and less people who hate you
C. You start thinking positive about yourself and your life.
Before I sign-off I like to share this quotation, which I found while scanning through Internet, which actually summarize the theme of whole article.
Today I can feel sad that I don't have more money or I can be glad that my finances encourage me to plan my purchases wisely and guide me away from waste.
Today I can grumble about my health or I can rejoice that I am alive.
Today I can lament over all that my parents didn't give me when I was growing up or I can feel grateful that they allowed me to be born.
Today I can mourn my lack of friends or I can excitedly embark upon a quest to discover new relationships.
Today I can whine because I have to go to work or I can shout for joy because I have a job to do.
Today I can complain because I have to go to school or eagerly open my mind and fill it with rich new tidbits of knowledge.
Today I can murmur dejectedly because I have to do housework or I can appreciate that I have a place to call home.
My life stretches ahead of me, waiting to be shaped. And here I am, the sculptor who gets to do the shaping.
It will nice to get your comments and feedback.
With lots of love and care
Sanjeev Sharma
(Blog: http://sanjeevhimachali.blogspot.com/ )
(E-mail:
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From India, Mumbai
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Introduction
Today is 05th Nov. 2006 and people in this part of the world are celebrating "Guruparav"…"Birthday of Guru Nanak Dev". I am sitting here and thinking as what is the motive of our life? What is very purpose of our life? What makes us to wake-up early in the morning and rush for work or college or school? What is that keeps us to continue? Is living – a compulsion? Just because everybody is living…I will also live.
What motivates you?
Power
Position,
Money,
Valuable goods and assets,
Growth,
Acceptance and Respect,
Appreciation, rewards and awards
These are the motivators are most of us, right? (Can to list down few more?). These are the good enough motivators to keep us running throughout the life…to keep us charged. These are the factors, which keep some people "loyal like a dog"; "work like a donkey" and "keep jumping…like a monkey".
You can read the complete article at: <link outdated-removed>
Some simple (Traditional) Motivators…
Let me discuss some "Orthodox" motivators, which also work, are some people.
1) Responsibility: You might have seen in some movies…might also have seen in your own family, when a guy is irresponsible, spending too much time outside…parents usually say, "Iski Shaadi kar do; jimmeyvari aayegi to khud samajhdaar ho jaayega" (Get him married. Once he gets responsibilities, he too becomes responsible). Don't you think that "enforced responsibility" also motivates some people? Then he knows that now he is not alone…he need to work for his wife, for his family and then for their future. In India,(People say that) things doesn't work until and unless they are enforced or until and unless it is compulsion (no other way).
2) Looking beyond your sight:
A. You are always able to see one side of the coin…you sure want to see the other side.
B. You are able to see a huge mountain…you always want to see…what is there on the other side.
C. You are in a ocean…everywhere you see water, water and only water…you want to know where is the end.
That is called as "Motivation to know more"…motivation to know more than what you already know.
3) Power of Dreams: This is, seeing the unseen. Seeing, what no one has ever seen. Having a dream is a motivation but that is not enough. Passion to make that dreams a reality is a bigger motivation.
A. If you have dream…
B. If you have passion…
C. If you are not afraid to fail…
D. If you are not worried about the end result…
E. If you have zeal to continue, in spite of problems …
…then no one is more motivated then what you are. You don't need any external motivator. You will always be charged and ready to go.
You can read the complete article at: <link outdated-removed>
Learning from life
More than the above mentioned…if you look around, you would find that there are so many small-small and little facts of life; thoughts and experiences around us, which are big enough to keep us, motivated all the time. Have a look at the following:
1) Many parents kill their "unborn children" (Foeticide)…either by chance or by choice. It can be miscarriage or abortion or any other accident. We are fortunate enough that our parents let us to see this "wonderful" world.
2) Many people are unfortunate. They are handicap. They cannot see, cannot listen, cannot talk, they don't have any of the limb…they are suffering from deadly diseases. We are health. Isn't it a good thought to keep us motivated?
3) There are those families, which are poor. They don't earn enough to eat three times in a day. We are doing well enough to eat three times a day…that too hygienic and quality food.
4) People have two sets of dresses (People in some parts of the world…don't have anything to wear). They wash one and wear another one. We have so many in our wardrobe.
5) Many people are not fortunate enough to get good education…either there are no facilities or they just cannot afford. We are educated enough to take our decisions and decide things which are good or bad for us.
6) Those who are educated, not all are employed. We are not only employed but doing good enough to take care of ourselves, our family and chase our dreams.
7) Doesn't matter if it is summer, winter or rainy season…some people are just in care of nature. They don't have house. They don't have place to stay. We have house…that we all call "Home Sweet Home".
8) Everyday there are so many accidents, natural calamities (Cyclone, Floods, Earthquakes etc) killing thousands of people. We are fortunate that we are alive today and are with our family and relatives.
Aren't these fact are good enough for you to keep you motivated and feel satisfied and content.
You can read the complete article at: <link outdated-removed>
Conclusion
Life will become miserable…it will become hell if you start
A. Finding faults is others
B. Taking revenge
C. Thinking negative
D. Complaining
E. Harming others
But life will become heaven, if
A. You start counting your blessings
B. You start thinking that there are more people who love you and less people who hate you
C. You start thinking positive about yourself and your life.
Before I sign-off I like to share this quotation, which I found while scanning through Internet, which actually summarize the theme of whole article.
Today I can feel sad that I don't have more money or I can be glad that my finances encourage me to plan my purchases wisely and guide me away from waste.
Today I can grumble about my health or I can rejoice that I am alive.
Today I can lament over all that my parents didn't give me when I was growing up or I can feel grateful that they allowed me to be born.
Today I can mourn my lack of friends or I can excitedly embark upon a quest to discover new relationships.
Today I can whine because I have to go to work or I can shout for joy because I have a job to do.
Today I can complain because I have to go to school or eagerly open my mind and fill it with rich new tidbits of knowledge.
Today I can murmur dejectedly because I have to do housework or I can appreciate that I have a place to call home.
My life stretches ahead of me, waiting to be shaped. And here I am, the sculptor who gets to do the shaping.
It will nice to get your comments and feedback.
With lots of love and care
Sanjeev Sharma
(Blog: http://sanjeevhimachali.blogspot.com/ )
(E-mail:
From India, Mumbai
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Hi everyone,
Money as a motivator? Interesting, but how true. Are we taking into account the people who are toppers and have been searching for a job? And when he gets a job, is he going to care about hygiene, leave alone the motivational factors? He does not care if he is being exploited. A person having his responsibilities, ailing parents, and a large family – is he going to look for hygiene factors, or is he more concerned about where his next meal is going to come from? How many graduates do have jobs in India?
Just spare a thought for the illiterates. People work for 20 years to 30 years in companies – what motivates them? These factors are only for people with professional qualifications. All these factors have come to be associated with people who have the latest degrees from high-sounding and money-fleecing colleges (I am from one of them). These people have the qualification to switch jobs.
Sanjeev, you could not have put it in a better way. I appreciate your article, and I really mean it. If a person all along his life has seen his stock soaring (scooter to Corolla), will he be motivated other than money? We should really feel lucky to have a job. Empathizing with people, trying to understand their point of view, instead of categorically saying that their ideas are wrong, trying to understand their logic will work wonders.
And lastly, people who do not have responsibilities – how many change jobs not for money but for hygiene factors?
Regards
From India
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Money as a motivator? Interesting, but how true. Are we taking into account the people who are toppers and have been searching for a job? And when he gets a job, is he going to care about hygiene, leave alone the motivational factors? He does not care if he is being exploited. A person having his responsibilities, ailing parents, and a large family – is he going to look for hygiene factors, or is he more concerned about where his next meal is going to come from? How many graduates do have jobs in India?
Just spare a thought for the illiterates. People work for 20 years to 30 years in companies – what motivates them? These factors are only for people with professional qualifications. All these factors have come to be associated with people who have the latest degrees from high-sounding and money-fleecing colleges (I am from one of them). These people have the qualification to switch jobs.
Sanjeev, you could not have put it in a better way. I appreciate your article, and I really mean it. If a person all along his life has seen his stock soaring (scooter to Corolla), will he be motivated other than money? We should really feel lucky to have a job. Empathizing with people, trying to understand their point of view, instead of categorically saying that their ideas are wrong, trying to understand their logic will work wonders.
And lastly, people who do not have responsibilities – how many change jobs not for money but for hygiene factors?
Regards
From India
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Money motivates, but only for a while. Let's put it this way: you receive an annual increment, and you are happy at that moment. However, just 2-3 months later, that amount becomes your regular salary, and you are no longer as motivated. You start expecting more money.
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Azeem Shamsi
From Pakistan, Karachi
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Regards,
Azeem Shamsi
From Pakistan, Karachi
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Hey Sanjeev,
Thanks a lot for the write-up. It will surely be of help.
Vrishi,
Are you saying that money motivates? If so, what motivates all of us to contribute on this forum? Money is surely not the only factor, so what is it?
Dear, it is not just hygiene we look for; there are more factors. What about satisfaction, work atmosphere, the employer, the boss, organizational culture, etc.?
If you notice, we have many queries on the forum almost on a daily basis regarding problems faced by people in their organization. Sometimes it's related to the boss's behavior, sometimes the top management is poor, and at times it's about peers' behavior. Very few have faced problems in monetary terms and thought of leaving the company.
Infosys at the starting level gives peanuts to the employees. Why do people join this company?
Scooter to Corolla is surely the truth, but it is not just about money. We did send him for a course (Executive MBA) from MDI Gurgaon; his growth in the company was tremendous, his working style has improved, and the company paid for training in Germany, Paris, and the US, among many other things.
If an employee still complains about money and more money, I really feel they need proper counseling.
Cheers,
Archna
From India, Delhi
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Thanks a lot for the write-up. It will surely be of help.
Vrishi,
Are you saying that money motivates? If so, what motivates all of us to contribute on this forum? Money is surely not the only factor, so what is it?
Dear, it is not just hygiene we look for; there are more factors. What about satisfaction, work atmosphere, the employer, the boss, organizational culture, etc.?
If you notice, we have many queries on the forum almost on a daily basis regarding problems faced by people in their organization. Sometimes it's related to the boss's behavior, sometimes the top management is poor, and at times it's about peers' behavior. Very few have faced problems in monetary terms and thought of leaving the company.
Infosys at the starting level gives peanuts to the employees. Why do people join this company?
Scooter to Corolla is surely the truth, but it is not just about money. We did send him for a course (Executive MBA) from MDI Gurgaon; his growth in the company was tremendous, his working style has improved, and the company paid for training in Germany, Paris, and the US, among many other things.
If an employee still complains about money and more money, I really feel they need proper counseling.
Cheers,
Archna
From India, Delhi
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Hello everyone, Archnahr.
I did not, for once, mention that money is the only motivator, but it is one of the main motivators (at least in India). The other factors, which you have so dearly stated, broadly come into motivational factors. I just asked a simple question which was digressed.
As for scooter to Corolla, is not the other person a star performer? Is he not contributing to the goals of the organization? Is he not leading his team to success? Are other people not happy with him, or are they complaining about him? It is just simply a difference of opinion between the persons concerned. To convince a person of something, actions speak louder than words (my opinion).
And as for contributing to this forum, it is for knowledge sharing.
Regards
From India
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I did not, for once, mention that money is the only motivator, but it is one of the main motivators (at least in India). The other factors, which you have so dearly stated, broadly come into motivational factors. I just asked a simple question which was digressed.
As for scooter to Corolla, is not the other person a star performer? Is he not contributing to the goals of the organization? Is he not leading his team to success? Are other people not happy with him, or are they complaining about him? It is just simply a difference of opinion between the persons concerned. To convince a person of something, actions speak louder than words (my opinion).
And as for contributing to this forum, it is for knowledge sharing.
Regards
From India
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Hello everyone, Archnahr.
I did not, for once, mention that money is the only motivator, but it is one of the main motivators (at least in India). The other factors, which you have so dearly stated, broadly come into motivational factors. I just asked a simple question which was digressed.
As for scooter to Corolla, is not the other person a star performer? Is he not contributing to the goals of the organization? Is he not leading his team to success? Are other people not happy with him, or are they complaining about him? It is just simply a difference of opinion between the persons concerned. To convince a person of something, actions speak louder than words (my opinion).
And as for contributing to this forum, it is for knowledge sharing and for having a difference of opinion amongst ourselves, which helps to look at all the possible views.
Regards.
From India
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I did not, for once, mention that money is the only motivator, but it is one of the main motivators (at least in India). The other factors, which you have so dearly stated, broadly come into motivational factors. I just asked a simple question which was digressed.
As for scooter to Corolla, is not the other person a star performer? Is he not contributing to the goals of the organization? Is he not leading his team to success? Are other people not happy with him, or are they complaining about him? It is just simply a difference of opinion between the persons concerned. To convince a person of something, actions speak louder than words (my opinion).
And as for contributing to this forum, it is for knowledge sharing and for having a difference of opinion amongst ourselves, which helps to look at all the possible views.
Regards.
From India
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I would also like to know, is it only money we work for? Is it true that all the theories such as Maslow's, ERG, Herzberg, and other theories do not work at all in practical organizations? Please share your views on this; don't just read, kindly contribute as well. Cheers!!! Archna
My views on this are slightly diplomatic. People don't work for money; they work for a livelihood, and how much they need is totally dependent on the lifestyle. I tend to agree with your manager on the point that money is the best motivator, and I agree with you that money is not the only motivator. Both statements are mutually exclusive. There are many motivators besides money, but money motivation works best (at least in India).
All the theories you mentioned hold good even today, no doubt about it. In fact, these theories hold good even for end customers (after all, employees are internal customers for the service delivery department called HR!). Cheers, Saurabh
From India, New Delhi
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I would also like to know, is it only money we work for? Is it true that all the theories such as Maslow's, ERG, Herzberg, and other theories do not work at all in practical organizations? Please share your views on this; don't just read, kindly contribute as well. Cheers!!! Archna
My views on this are slightly diplomatic. People don't work for money; they work for a livelihood, and how much they need is totally dependent on the lifestyle. I tend to agree with your manager on the point that money is the best motivator, and I agree with you that money is not the only motivator. Both statements are mutually exclusive. There are many motivators besides money, but money motivation works best (at least in India).
All the theories you mentioned hold good even today, no doubt about it. In fact, these theories hold good even for end customers (after all, employees are internal customers for the service delivery department called HR!). Cheers, Saurabh
From India, New Delhi
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Hi Saurabh,
I did not find your answer to be diplomatic. Rather, you have put it in a more beautiful way than I could. Livelihood... This is the word. All these motivational theories go out of the window once a person is working for livelihood (breadwinner). And that is the scenario in most cases.
Regards,
From India
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I did not find your answer to be diplomatic. Rather, you have put it in a more beautiful way than I could. Livelihood... This is the word. All these motivational theories go out of the window once a person is working for livelihood (breadwinner). And that is the scenario in most cases.
Regards,
From India
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Hi Saurabh,
Long time no contribution?? :) Thanks a lot for your thoughts. I agree with you partially. People want their livelihood, but will they work in a place where they are exploited even when they earn better money? There can be many arguments on this, but it is true we differ in opinion. My opinion may not be yours and vice versa. Thanks for your contribution.
ARchna
From India, Delhi
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Long time no contribution?? :) Thanks a lot for your thoughts. I agree with you partially. People want their livelihood, but will they work in a place where they are exploited even when they earn better money? There can be many arguments on this, but it is true we differ in opinion. My opinion may not be yours and vice versa. Thanks for your contribution.
ARchna
From India, Delhi
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Thanks a lot for your thoughts. No worries... my thoughts are free!! 😂 😂
I agree with you partially. People want their livelihood, but will they work in a place where they are exploited even when they earn better money?
It depends on how you see it. Many times we look at exploitation as learning, especially at the junior level, or just don't notice it at all.
Every individual defines exploitation in his or her way. There will be people who will term 'More responsibilities on the same salary' as exploitation.
An employee should understand that he or she is there for the organization. If their personal goals are not being met by staying there, they will claim that they are being exploited in one way or the other. But the other side of the coin is that the organization's interest is being met.
We all have our way of looking at things and finding out the WHY behind every incident. As an employee, it is almost essential to find out whether I am being exploited in a true sense. For that, I need to wear the cap of an entrepreneur and try to gauge his perspective.
And if you still feel you are being exploited, directly talk to your boss or senior manager about the issue. If the issue is genuine, they have to address it.
This is what I will do if I feel exploited even when I am getting more money than I think I deserve... 😄
From India, New Delhi
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I agree with you partially. People want their livelihood, but will they work in a place where they are exploited even when they earn better money?
It depends on how you see it. Many times we look at exploitation as learning, especially at the junior level, or just don't notice it at all.
Every individual defines exploitation in his or her way. There will be people who will term 'More responsibilities on the same salary' as exploitation.
An employee should understand that he or she is there for the organization. If their personal goals are not being met by staying there, they will claim that they are being exploited in one way or the other. But the other side of the coin is that the organization's interest is being met.
We all have our way of looking at things and finding out the WHY behind every incident. As an employee, it is almost essential to find out whether I am being exploited in a true sense. For that, I need to wear the cap of an entrepreneur and try to gauge his perspective.
And if you still feel you are being exploited, directly talk to your boss or senior manager about the issue. If the issue is genuine, they have to address it.
This is what I will do if I feel exploited even when I am getting more money than I think I deserve... 😄
From India, New Delhi
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Hi Saurabh,
I did not find your answer to be diplomatic. Rather, you have put it in a more beautiful way than I could. Livelihood... This is the word. All these motivational theories go out of the window once a person is working for livelihood (breadwinner), and that is the scenario in most cases.
Regards,
Hi Vrishi,
Sorry, I missed your comment. Thanks for the compliment. Actually, these motivational theories relate to livelihood in their first stage... Maslow's need hierarchy - basic needs or physical needs. Then all social, emotional, esteem, and self-actualization needs trigger. I think the theories still hold good.
Cheers,
Saurabh
From India, New Delhi
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I did not find your answer to be diplomatic. Rather, you have put it in a more beautiful way than I could. Livelihood... This is the word. All these motivational theories go out of the window once a person is working for livelihood (breadwinner), and that is the scenario in most cases.
Regards,
Hi Vrishi,
Sorry, I missed your comment. Thanks for the compliment. Actually, these motivational theories relate to livelihood in their first stage... Maslow's need hierarchy - basic needs or physical needs. Then all social, emotional, esteem, and self-actualization needs trigger. I think the theories still hold good.
Cheers,
Saurabh
From India, New Delhi
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Hi,
Sorry to join the discussion rather late. I was out of circulation.
As practices give rise to theories and as theories lead to practices, one must see the inevitability of the connection. When one observes "what works," one tends to use the method often, and in due course, it becomes a theory. Those who do not have the benefit of observing the cause and effect relations between the stimulus and the response accept the given theory in the belief that if it has worked for some, it will work for me too.
Each one is entitled to hold rigid individual opinions on any and all matters, and that will not change the reality.
Using "money" as a motivator, to me, appears like bribing your way through as it often does not care for human dignity since people may work out of compulsion to generate additional money for themselves. Just as Overtime leads to many undesirable practices over a period of time, if it is left unchecked, the money motivator, at an obsession level, will also backfire! Used moderately, it works for a short time.
In the ultimate analysis, one needs to preserve human dignity, the pride in overcoming work challenges. Meaningful work is the real motivator! Money kills the joy of working. It may bring more money to the individual, but I am afraid it will not be able to generate happiness, pride, and a feeling of untarnished achievement. That is why there is a world of difference between the soldiers who fight wars for the sake of the country and the mercenaries who also fight wars (only for money!) One works for the honor of the country, and the other does not give a damn if he causes a victory or a defeat!
One's statements bear out his experiences. There may be nothing invalid about these when looked at from his point of view. BUT to deny validity to other theories and approaches is being less than fair. One swallow does not make winter!
Regards,
Samvedan
November 8, 2006
From India, Pune
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Sorry to join the discussion rather late. I was out of circulation.
As practices give rise to theories and as theories lead to practices, one must see the inevitability of the connection. When one observes "what works," one tends to use the method often, and in due course, it becomes a theory. Those who do not have the benefit of observing the cause and effect relations between the stimulus and the response accept the given theory in the belief that if it has worked for some, it will work for me too.
Each one is entitled to hold rigid individual opinions on any and all matters, and that will not change the reality.
Using "money" as a motivator, to me, appears like bribing your way through as it often does not care for human dignity since people may work out of compulsion to generate additional money for themselves. Just as Overtime leads to many undesirable practices over a period of time, if it is left unchecked, the money motivator, at an obsession level, will also backfire! Used moderately, it works for a short time.
In the ultimate analysis, one needs to preserve human dignity, the pride in overcoming work challenges. Meaningful work is the real motivator! Money kills the joy of working. It may bring more money to the individual, but I am afraid it will not be able to generate happiness, pride, and a feeling of untarnished achievement. That is why there is a world of difference between the soldiers who fight wars for the sake of the country and the mercenaries who also fight wars (only for money!) One works for the honor of the country, and the other does not give a damn if he causes a victory or a defeat!
One's statements bear out his experiences. There may be nothing invalid about these when looked at from his point of view. BUT to deny validity to other theories and approaches is being less than fair. One swallow does not make winter!
Regards,
Samvedan
November 8, 2006
From India, Pune
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True!! Well Said!! Excess of anything is bad!! Awsome analogy indeed!! Its all about the atitude towards work. In a nutshell, I agree with you cheers Saurabh
From India, New Delhi
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From India, New Delhi
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Dear All,
It is a very complex issue. Various factors motivate a person. The person in question at this moment is in extreme need of money, which will provide him motivation. Please understand his predicament and proceed to handle the situation accordingly.
However, by and large, Maslow and other theories confirm what we have known through common sense all these years in India.
Best of Luck,
Govind
Coach & HR Consultant
+91 98338 90250
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It is a very complex issue. Various factors motivate a person. The person in question at this moment is in extreme need of money, which will provide him motivation. Please understand his predicament and proceed to handle the situation accordingly.
However, by and large, Maslow and other theories confirm what we have known through common sense all these years in India.
Best of Luck,
Govind
Coach & HR Consultant
+91 98338 90250
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Thank you, Mr. Samvedan. How wonderfully you have written down your thoughts. I really believe in what you say, but I could not do justice to what I had in mind. I'm completely satisfied with your answer and would try to counsel that person with your thoughts now. Thank you once again.
Regards, Archna
From India, Delhi
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Regards, Archna
From India, Delhi
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Hi,
I believe that Maslow's theory is the only solution. When one satisfies their social needs, their motivators will be others. Similarly, in the self-actualization state, the needs become completely different.
Ajay Bhasin 😂
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I believe that Maslow's theory is the only solution. When one satisfies their social needs, their motivators will be others. Similarly, in the self-actualization state, the needs become completely different.
Ajay Bhasin 😂
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Hi Archana,
The motivation theories valid in the world today are the Vroom's Expectancy Theory and Adam's Equity Theory.
"Money is everything but not everything." You can't reject that point completely.
I think what the HR professor Mico Krish, who is teaching me, mentioned in his post about the relevance of motivational theories in present days.
From India
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The motivation theories valid in the world today are the Vroom's Expectancy Theory and Adam's Equity Theory.
"Money is everything but not everything." You can't reject that point completely.
I think what the HR professor Mico Krish, who is teaching me, mentioned in his post about the relevance of motivational theories in present days.
From India
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Hi Jacob,
You are absolutely right.
Equity theory states that if I see my coworker putting in the same effort as me but getting paid more, I will be demotivated.
Vroom's Expectancy Theory, which involves seeing the rewards I work for as positive reinforcement, is a lovely theory.
Regards
From India
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You are absolutely right.
Equity theory states that if I see my coworker putting in the same effort as me but getting paid more, I will be demotivated.
Vroom's Expectancy Theory, which involves seeing the rewards I work for as positive reinforcement, is a lovely theory.
Regards
From India
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In my case, I have always looked out for a career in HR and was very keen on getting into this line. I thought it was much difficult for me to change to this line as at the entry-level, the salaries paid in this line are quite low, and I was drawing good enough when I was working in a BPO. At that time, what was important to me was the job satisfaction, and I took a decision to quit the job and try out for an HR job. And now I am into it.
This job gives me a lot of pressure as I am the only person in the HR department as of now, and the salary paid to me is less than what I used to draw before. But what matters to me is the job satisfaction, and I feel that for most of the people, at some point in time, it would be the job satisfaction that would matter and not money always. In fact, I personally feel that in females, an urge for job satisfaction is more rather than any monetary satisfaction. Of course, it might be because there would be an alternative income in the family.
However, I conclude that the motivational levels in an individual keep changing depending on the situations. What say you?
From India, Ahmadabad
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This job gives me a lot of pressure as I am the only person in the HR department as of now, and the salary paid to me is less than what I used to draw before. But what matters to me is the job satisfaction, and I feel that for most of the people, at some point in time, it would be the job satisfaction that would matter and not money always. In fact, I personally feel that in females, an urge for job satisfaction is more rather than any monetary satisfaction. Of course, it might be because there would be an alternative income in the family.
However, I conclude that the motivational levels in an individual keep changing depending on the situations. What say you?
From India, Ahmadabad
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Hey guys,
Wow, the topic is heating up again. Jacob and Shijee, I agree with both of you completely. According to me, MONEY is a motivator but for some time, at different levels of age, we expect something else from our respective companies. Keep posting your views, guys; that makes the discussion more enjoyable.
Cheers,
Archna
From India, Delhi
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Wow, the topic is heating up again. Jacob and Shijee, I agree with both of you completely. According to me, MONEY is a motivator but for some time, at different levels of age, we expect something else from our respective companies. Keep posting your views, guys; that makes the discussion more enjoyable.
Cheers,
Archna
From India, Delhi
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Hello Archana,
Good topic and nice discussion. The knowledge we get from the books is valuable, no doubt. But how long will it be useful in our lives, especially in practical ways? The knowledge from books serves as guidelines and cannot always be sincerely followed in all situations.
Money is a great motivator and should be supported by other motivators such as appreciation, good leadership, and listening. Unfortunately, nowadays when money is offered to employees, the attitude of the employer is often focused on what he can gain from the money provided rather than appreciating it as a reward for quality work by the employee.
Undoubtedly, money is a very important motivator, but in my opinion, other motivators also play a vital role alongside money. My relationship with bosses for a long time has been based on friendship, affection, love, encouragement, support, and leadership rather than just money. It varies from person to person.
Best wishes,
Senthil Raj
From Costa Rica, San José
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Good topic and nice discussion. The knowledge we get from the books is valuable, no doubt. But how long will it be useful in our lives, especially in practical ways? The knowledge from books serves as guidelines and cannot always be sincerely followed in all situations.
Money is a great motivator and should be supported by other motivators such as appreciation, good leadership, and listening. Unfortunately, nowadays when money is offered to employees, the attitude of the employer is often focused on what he can gain from the money provided rather than appreciating it as a reward for quality work by the employee.
Undoubtedly, money is a very important motivator, but in my opinion, other motivators also play a vital role alongside money. My relationship with bosses for a long time has been based on friendship, affection, love, encouragement, support, and leadership rather than just money. It varies from person to person.
Best wishes,
Senthil Raj
From Costa Rica, San José
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Hi Archana,
Certainly, money is a big motivator, but I believe we all have human emotions of being appreciated, rewarded, and getting recognition. A research also says of Fortune 500 companies that money is not the only factor that motivates employees; rather, it is the opportunities for creativity, growth, and continuous personal and professional development that enable people to have a sense of fulfillment. Hence, the motivational theories are very relevant in day-to-day life.
Thanks for introducing such a wonderful topic to the members.
Cheers,
Rooma
From India, Lucknow
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Certainly, money is a big motivator, but I believe we all have human emotions of being appreciated, rewarded, and getting recognition. A research also says of Fortune 500 companies that money is not the only factor that motivates employees; rather, it is the opportunities for creativity, growth, and continuous personal and professional development that enable people to have a sense of fulfillment. Hence, the motivational theories are very relevant in day-to-day life.
Thanks for introducing such a wonderful topic to the members.
Cheers,
Rooma
From India, Lucknow
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Hi Archna et al,
Great discussion. Good enough to get me back to posting on Cite HR again. See, motivation works!!
Theories don't come up from thin air or from the dreams of the theorists. Theories - as Samvedan rightly put it - are successful practices that are recorded as theory. Samvedan's words: 'When one observes "what works", one tends to use the method often, and in due course, it becomes a theory.'
Someone once said that industry and academics cannot survive in isolation; they need each other.
Simply put, the academics observe the industry and come up with postulates and theories, which are then taught to other members of the industry.
My two cents worth of suggestion:
Archna, you say the manager in question is doing well. Now ask yourself - what do I really want, to change his perception or to help more people become successful? If you discuss or argue with him, you may end up demotivating or agitating him and lose a 'star'. The sensible way - in my opinion - is a 'different strokes for different folks' approach. For as long as it benefits him and the company, let the manager continue to believe that money is the only motivator. As time goes on, he may change. The real issue is - I say again - not to change him but to get others to be as successful.
I remember reading a brilliant set of motivation case studies on a website I forgot which. I have attached it for further reading to you, Archna, and all others.
All the best,
Amruth
GREATSCOPE CONSULTING - Home
'We do not describe the world we see, we see the world we describe.'
From India, Mumbai
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Great discussion. Good enough to get me back to posting on Cite HR again. See, motivation works!!
Theories don't come up from thin air or from the dreams of the theorists. Theories - as Samvedan rightly put it - are successful practices that are recorded as theory. Samvedan's words: 'When one observes "what works", one tends to use the method often, and in due course, it becomes a theory.'
Someone once said that industry and academics cannot survive in isolation; they need each other.
Simply put, the academics observe the industry and come up with postulates and theories, which are then taught to other members of the industry.
My two cents worth of suggestion:
Archna, you say the manager in question is doing well. Now ask yourself - what do I really want, to change his perception or to help more people become successful? If you discuss or argue with him, you may end up demotivating or agitating him and lose a 'star'. The sensible way - in my opinion - is a 'different strokes for different folks' approach. For as long as it benefits him and the company, let the manager continue to believe that money is the only motivator. As time goes on, he may change. The real issue is - I say again - not to change him but to get others to be as successful.
I remember reading a brilliant set of motivation case studies on a website I forgot which. I have attached it for further reading to you, Archna, and all others.
All the best,
Amruth
GREATSCOPE CONSULTING - Home
'We do not describe the world we see, we see the world we describe.'
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Archnahr,
Theories of motivation work very well with the majority. These theories are practical. However, with a few, it may differ. There are thousands of people who leave their well-paying jobs for reasons that others cannot even understand. There are many who refuse transfers or promotions, forgoing an increase in remuneration. What motivates an individual cannot be observed all the time, but their behavior can be.
Money is a motivator, but not for all and not always either. Your manager may not have come across anyone who values other things as more important than money. The psychologists who spend years on research are not idiots to bring out such theories.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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Theories of motivation work very well with the majority. These theories are practical. However, with a few, it may differ. There are thousands of people who leave their well-paying jobs for reasons that others cannot even understand. There are many who refuse transfers or promotions, forgoing an increase in remuneration. What motivates an individual cannot be observed all the time, but their behavior can be.
Money is a motivator, but not for all and not always either. Your manager may not have come across anyone who values other things as more important than money. The psychologists who spend years on research are not idiots to bring out such theories.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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Motivation only by monetary compensation cannot be a lasting solution. An appeal should be made to inculcate a sense of belonging to the institution and kindle the intellect of the employee to contribute more to the institution to cater to his mental satisfaction.
From India, Bangalore
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