Company Secretary Course vs. Ph.D. for HR Professionals
Is the Company Secretary course supportive of an HR profile? If yes, how will it be, and what experience is suggested to start the CS course? Is CS better than a Ph.D.? Which one is better for a 2-year experienced HR professional?
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Madhu.
From India, Hyderabad
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1Is the Company Secretary course supportive of an HR profile? If yes, how will it be, and what experience is suggested to start the CS course? Is CS better than a Ph.D.? Which one is better for a 2-year experienced HR professional?
Regards,
Madhu.
From India, Hyderabad
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Hi Madhu!
I think you are in great confusion! There are different career paths with distinct prospects. My suggestion to you is to first think about which career path you want to choose. The job responsibilities of a CS differ from those of HRM, although CS professionals need to have a basic understanding of employment law. The primary job function of a CS in a company is to provide legal guidance regarding the Companies Act, issuing shares and debentures, and handling issues related to forex and securities, among others. On the other hand, you are aware of the functions of an HR professional. I believe that a Ph.D. may only lead to an academic career.
I hope this helps clarify things for you.
From India, Calcutta
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I think you are in great confusion! There are different career paths with distinct prospects. My suggestion to you is to first think about which career path you want to choose. The job responsibilities of a CS differ from those of HRM, although CS professionals need to have a basic understanding of employment law. The primary job function of a CS in a company is to provide legal guidance regarding the Companies Act, issuing shares and debentures, and handling issues related to forex and securities, among others. On the other hand, you are aware of the functions of an HR professional. I believe that a Ph.D. may only lead to an academic career.
I hope this helps clarify things for you.
From India, Calcutta
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Dear Srivathsa,
First of all, I want to clarify that my name is not Anupama, it's Anupam and masculine gender.
I strictly object to your comment that CS is a higher profession than HR. I don't know where you have learned this unprofessional attitude and have the urge to comment like this on a professional site.
I regret to condemn this kind of attitude on behalf of all members of this site. It would be better for all HR professionals like me if you clarify in which respect HR professionals don't have the same status as CS professionals.
Thank you.
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First of all, I want to clarify that my name is not Anupama, it's Anupam and masculine gender.
I strictly object to your comment that CS is a higher profession than HR. I don't know where you have learned this unprofessional attitude and have the urge to comment like this on a professional site.
I regret to condemn this kind of attitude on behalf of all members of this site. It would be better for all HR professionals like me if you clarify in which respect HR professionals don't have the same status as CS professionals.
Thank you.
From India, Calcutta
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Hi,
This is Shwetha from Bangalore. I do agree with Anupam's wording.
First and foremost thing: without having knowledge, better don't give any suggestions to anyone. Who told you that HR Profession doesn't have the same status compared to CS? Have you experienced it or are you simply saying it blindly? Without knowing anything or without gaining experience, you should not judge any profession. Every profession has its own value.
Second thing: Please don't use this site for posting unnecessary things without any prior knowledge on those topics. You are still a student, so my advice to you is to change this unprofessional attitude.
Regards, Shwetha
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This is Shwetha from Bangalore. I do agree with Anupam's wording.
First and foremost thing: without having knowledge, better don't give any suggestions to anyone. Who told you that HR Profession doesn't have the same status compared to CS? Have you experienced it or are you simply saying it blindly? Without knowing anything or without gaining experience, you should not judge any profession. Every profession has its own value.
Second thing: Please don't use this site for posting unnecessary things without any prior knowledge on those topics. You are still a student, so my advice to you is to change this unprofessional attitude.
Regards, Shwetha
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Dear Anupam & Swetha,
Please be kind in your words. These types of words don't suit HR professionals. HR persons are the bridge joining employees and employers, so they have to be very kind in nature. I agree with your emotions, but the way you both are behaving towards Shrivatsa is really very strange.
Today, there is a post dedicated to a blind boy in which the author described the way of communication (the harsh or direct and the soft or pleasing). Both phrases convey the same requirement, yet in a different manner.
From India, Mumbai
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Please be kind in your words. These types of words don't suit HR professionals. HR persons are the bridge joining employees and employers, so they have to be very kind in nature. I agree with your emotions, but the way you both are behaving towards Shrivatsa is really very strange.
Today, there is a post dedicated to a blind boy in which the author described the way of communication (the harsh or direct and the soft or pleasing). Both phrases convey the same requirement, yet in a different manner.
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Ya, I do know that, Yaasmin!
Being an HR in one company, I do know how to respond to people. I also know that nobody is perfect in this world and not everyone will be an expert in all things, matters, or skills. If they don't know, they should ask others, right? Simply, blindly assuming things and commenting on other professions is not appropriate.
Since Mr. Shrivatsa is giving advice to Mr. Madhu regarding his career, he should be experienced in it or have some knowledge on the matter. So, I told him that. I don't think my words are wrong.
Regards,
Shwetha
From India, Bangalore
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Being an HR in one company, I do know how to respond to people. I also know that nobody is perfect in this world and not everyone will be an expert in all things, matters, or skills. If they don't know, they should ask others, right? Simply, blindly assuming things and commenting on other professions is not appropriate.
Since Mr. Shrivatsa is giving advice to Mr. Madhu regarding his career, he should be experienced in it or have some knowledge on the matter. So, I told him that. I don't think my words are wrong.
Regards,
Shwetha
From India, Bangalore
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Hello, my dear learned people at this forum,
I feel sorry for the words that I have uttered. Maybe this is because I'm a child before you all. Hey learned men and women! Please forgive me! I am not underestimating any profession, but I feel CS has more value as it gives a higher value since it is certified by the ICSI. You great souls can be at a higher level, but you can feel the real heat that actually falls on the student community. Thank you, Miss Shewata, Yasmin, and others.
From India, Madras
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I feel sorry for the words that I have uttered. Maybe this is because I'm a child before you all. Hey learned men and women! Please forgive me! I am not underestimating any profession, but I feel CS has more value as it gives a higher value since it is certified by the ICSI. You great souls can be at a higher level, but you can feel the real heat that actually falls on the student community. Thank you, Miss Shewata, Yasmin, and others.
From India, Madras
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Dear All, I didn’t get clarity on your answers for my query. Can you explain more...
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Hello Madhu,
Here is the answer to your queries.
A Company Secretary's work is mainly to look into the legal matters of a firm or organization. It is a multifaceted job that requires knowledge and affiliation with every conceivable department in the organization. The Company Secretary also maintains balance in the organization with a focus on legal soundness, which is one of the most imperative qualities and responsibilities of a CS. They also handle financial, legislative, and legal aspects related to the organization. If the company is public or planning to go public, then the public issue matters fall under the responsibility of the CS.
In this way, the CS supports all functions by providing legal knowledge wherever required, including the HR department.
Moving on to the next part of your question, a Ph.D. in HR is not only for academic purposes but can also be utilized for research in many organizations. I have seen many FPM or individuals with a Doctorate degree working in reputable companies like Thomas Cook, Tata, and others.
Before you choose any of these as your career path, I would suggest you write on a piece of paper about your interests in life, what you want to do. Do not follow what others are doing and achieving success in, but opt for something that truly interests you, Madhu. It will surely bring good results.
If you ever need career counseling, do let me know.
All the best.
Now, dear Anupam and Shwetha,
This is a professional forum, where everyone has the right to express their views, whether you agree with them or not. Also, Shrivathsa did not say anything wrong; it was her view on CS and HR, so let it be. As senior members of the forum, your role is to correct them, not insult or get aggressive.
Let us be open to criticism. Disagreements, differences in opinion, and views are part of life, as we are all very different individuals. It is in our nature to differ. Accept it and then share your experiences and opinions to help others understand your side of the story.
As HR professionals, we need to understand others' views as well.
You both are doing a great job on this forum, and please continue to do so.
Regards,
Archna
From India, Delhi
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Here is the answer to your queries.
A Company Secretary's work is mainly to look into the legal matters of a firm or organization. It is a multifaceted job that requires knowledge and affiliation with every conceivable department in the organization. The Company Secretary also maintains balance in the organization with a focus on legal soundness, which is one of the most imperative qualities and responsibilities of a CS. They also handle financial, legislative, and legal aspects related to the organization. If the company is public or planning to go public, then the public issue matters fall under the responsibility of the CS.
In this way, the CS supports all functions by providing legal knowledge wherever required, including the HR department.
Moving on to the next part of your question, a Ph.D. in HR is not only for academic purposes but can also be utilized for research in many organizations. I have seen many FPM or individuals with a Doctorate degree working in reputable companies like Thomas Cook, Tata, and others.
Before you choose any of these as your career path, I would suggest you write on a piece of paper about your interests in life, what you want to do. Do not follow what others are doing and achieving success in, but opt for something that truly interests you, Madhu. It will surely bring good results.
If you ever need career counseling, do let me know.
All the best.
Now, dear Anupam and Shwetha,
This is a professional forum, where everyone has the right to express their views, whether you agree with them or not. Also, Shrivathsa did not say anything wrong; it was her view on CS and HR, so let it be. As senior members of the forum, your role is to correct them, not insult or get aggressive.
Let us be open to criticism. Disagreements, differences in opinion, and views are part of life, as we are all very different individuals. It is in our nature to differ. Accept it and then share your experiences and opinions to help others understand your side of the story.
As HR professionals, we need to understand others' views as well.
You both are doing a great job on this forum, and please continue to do so.
Regards,
Archna
From India, Delhi
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Can anybody suggest if the Company Secretary (CS) course is a better option for an accounts personnel who has been working in a different organization for more than 15 years? Currently, I am a Manager in payroll activities at a leading ITES organization.
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First, you should concentrate on your present profession. If you are not interested in it, then identify your interests.
1. If you like the teaching profession, pursue a Ph.D. In comparison with Computer Science, you can easily secure a job with a Ph.D. in the teaching field.
2. If you enjoy Computer Science and wish to work as a bridge between directors, shareholders, and government entities, then pursue a career in Computer Science.
3. If you are interested in both HR and CS, which involve dealing with people, directors, shareholders, and the government, then continue with your current profession for at least 10 years. After that, you can stay in touch with your current company secretary. This will allow you to easily transition into the CS profession. However, initially (with your 2 years of experience in HR), it may not provide any benefits other than causing confusion.
From India, Warangal
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1. If you like the teaching profession, pursue a Ph.D. In comparison with Computer Science, you can easily secure a job with a Ph.D. in the teaching field.
2. If you enjoy Computer Science and wish to work as a bridge between directors, shareholders, and government entities, then pursue a career in Computer Science.
3. If you are interested in both HR and CS, which involve dealing with people, directors, shareholders, and the government, then continue with your current profession for at least 10 years. After that, you can stay in touch with your current company secretary. This will allow you to easily transition into the CS profession. However, initially (with your 2 years of experience in HR), it may not provide any benefits other than causing confusion.
From India, Warangal
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