why its said that an HRjob is good for a female? reply from all r invited neha
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Who said that? :shock: Anywayz how many female HR are holding top positions in reputed companies?? So is it only females? Mallet. :wink:
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Now a days females are more in HR department coz most of the coordinating Task can be done by them. Also you can find very less number of females in HR Generalist role. Regards Param
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Neha, like other members, I also do not believe that females are dominating HR in corporates. In fact, they are only doing coordination jobs and contribute only 25% to HR decisions.
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Shakila :P
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Hi all,
Well said by Jeevaneyan, there are certain competencies matching females. Being an HR personnel, they don't switch jobs frequently. Stability, better coordination, and contribution win them a role in HR. However, as discussed, HR positions are not only filled by female candidates.
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Venkat
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Well said by Jeevaneyan, there are certain competencies matching females. Being an HR personnel, they don't switch jobs frequently. Stability, better coordination, and contribution win them a role in HR. However, as discussed, HR positions are not only filled by female candidates.
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Venkat
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Neha, that was the notion during the late '90s, but it's not true now. It was said that it's a "Ladies Job" because of their temperament, patience, ability to interact with people, and their convincing power. However, if you look around, it is a fact that in most companies, females don't move above the level of Manager or General Managers. The reason is that at that level, you need a tough person who can make harsh decisions, an aggressive person who is not very emotional but result-oriented.
I hope this helps.
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Sanjeev Sharma
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I hope this helps.
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Sanjeev Sharma
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Hi Sanjeev,
I completely disagree with your comments that most of the females are not promoted to the level above managers. The reason specified by you is not correct. Females generally do not reach higher levels as they take breaks for their family. Whether it is due to pregnancy, taking care of a child, upbringing, or looking after elderly family members, it is usually a female member of the family who sacrifices her job and prioritizes family. Therefore, the reason many females leave their job or take a break is the hindrance to reaching higher levels of management. However, the scenario is changing now. :D
In our company, worldwide, the HR department is predominantly female with just two male employees. The VP of HR is also a female, and both HR directors are females.
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Archna
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I completely disagree with your comments that most of the females are not promoted to the level above managers. The reason specified by you is not correct. Females generally do not reach higher levels as they take breaks for their family. Whether it is due to pregnancy, taking care of a child, upbringing, or looking after elderly family members, it is usually a female member of the family who sacrifices her job and prioritizes family. Therefore, the reason many females leave their job or take a break is the hindrance to reaching higher levels of management. However, the scenario is changing now. :D
In our company, worldwide, the HR department is predominantly female with just two male employees. The VP of HR is also a female, and both HR directors are females.
Cheers!!
Archna
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Hi Archna, I can see a lady fighting out there for females. :lol: :lol: :lol: But what about the overall positions at top(in HR) at most companies? Regards, Mallet.
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Dear friends,
It has been discussed. Please go through the following link: https://www.citehr.com/1-vt14892.html?start=0.
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Sidheshwar
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It has been discussed. Please go through the following link: https://www.citehr.com/1-vt14892.html?start=0.
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Sidheshwar
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Hi Friends,
To start with, I do agree with a few of our group mates that the HR Executive needs to be cool-tempered and have good coordination skills. However, if we say that only females can be good coordinators and they can't perform well in a generalist profile, I must mention that I work as a senior executive in a reputed organization where the female to male ratio in our team is 80:20. It depends more on the individual and how well they can handle situations rather than their gender.
There are many males who can coordinate effectively and have better temperaments than females, and there are also many females who can make quicker and tougher decisions than males. So, let's not waste time debating who is better and let's get back to work! 😄
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Anisha
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To start with, I do agree with a few of our group mates that the HR Executive needs to be cool-tempered and have good coordination skills. However, if we say that only females can be good coordinators and they can't perform well in a generalist profile, I must mention that I work as a senior executive in a reputed organization where the female to male ratio in our team is 80:20. It depends more on the individual and how well they can handle situations rather than their gender.
There are many males who can coordinate effectively and have better temperaments than females, and there are also many females who can make quicker and tougher decisions than males. So, let's not waste time debating who is better and let's get back to work! 😄
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Anisha
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Hi all,
Females are dominating the Corporate HR jobs, while Plant HR is mostly ruled by males. Stability, better coordination, good communication, and a pleasant personality win them a role in Corporate HR. However, as discussed, HR positions are not exclusively filled by female candidates.
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Vinod
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Females are dominating the Corporate HR jobs, while Plant HR is mostly ruled by males. Stability, better coordination, good communication, and a pleasant personality win them a role in Corporate HR. However, as discussed, HR positions are not exclusively filled by female candidates.
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Vinod
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I totally agree with Archana. It was only in the good old days that ladies were not considered for higher jobs in the corporate ladder. But now things have change and I should say it has change drastically. We see heaps of woman CEO's even in Asia.
And also the word “Chairman” has changed to “Chairperson” because females are now in that area as well.
I think HR is labeled for “women” because Women are generally known to be emotionally balanced than men. HR needs a balance in certain aspects when it comes to handling employees etc.
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And also the word “Chairman” has changed to “Chairperson” because females are now in that area as well.
I think HR is labeled for “women” because Women are generally known to be emotionally balanced than men. HR needs a balance in certain aspects when it comes to handling employees etc.
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Thank you, Ashra, for your support.
Hi Mallet, it is not a female thing I said, it is just a reality. Most females do not reach top management because they choose their families. This topic has already been discussed two times.
I want to ask why do we waste time discussing such issues? Why gender talks when we all know it is the era of equal employment opportunities? Hopefully, as mature and grown-up individuals, we can leave this topic here.
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Archna
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Hi Mallet, it is not a female thing I said, it is just a reality. Most females do not reach top management because they choose their families. This topic has already been discussed two times.
I want to ask why do we waste time discussing such issues? Why gender talks when we all know it is the era of equal employment opportunities? Hopefully, as mature and grown-up individuals, we can leave this topic here.
Cheers,
Archna
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Hi friends,
I think this post is going interesting! There is no certain comment that HR jobs are for only females. Many are discharging duties in HR such as coordinating recruitments, calling candidates, and fixing up interviews. However, it is less common to see females handling senior levels, employee disputes, and other significant HR roles. Sometimes, the job profile may require a soft touch, being pleasing in recruiting, etc., which may make females preferred in these areas.
Thank you all.
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I think this post is going interesting! There is no certain comment that HR jobs are for only females. Many are discharging duties in HR such as coordinating recruitments, calling candidates, and fixing up interviews. However, it is less common to see females handling senior levels, employee disputes, and other significant HR roles. Sometimes, the job profile may require a soft touch, being pleasing in recruiting, etc., which may make females preferred in these areas.
Thank you all.
Srinivas
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Hi,
I am also of a similar opinion to Archana. In today's scenario, most of the top positions in HR are occupied by female professionals. Yes, it does take females a longer time to reach those positions compared to males, but the reason is definitely not their competence. It is simply because females have multiple roles to play, and they have to do justice to all of them. Despite all the troubles and resistance, females have managed to occupy top positions.
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Pooja
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I am also of a similar opinion to Archana. In today's scenario, most of the top positions in HR are occupied by female professionals. Yes, it does take females a longer time to reach those positions compared to males, but the reason is definitely not their competence. It is simply because females have multiple roles to play, and they have to do justice to all of them. Despite all the troubles and resistance, females have managed to occupy top positions.
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Pooja
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Hi all,
Females are very good in soft skills compared to men, and HR is a very sensitive department in this sense. Females, being mothers, sisters, and daughters, have the skill to turn very harsh situations into softer ones, and that's a beauty in any HR-related matter.
Samina
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Females are very good in soft skills compared to men, and HR is a very sensitive department in this sense. Females, being mothers, sisters, and daughters, have the skill to turn very harsh situations into softer ones, and that's a beauty in any HR-related matter.
Samina
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Hi Samina Slaam w alekum ! I agree with u. 200% correct. But in some cases of HR, we need to be strict where female is lacking due to soft nature. Regards Sidhehswar
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Hi, Shakila,
Females are dominating in the HR field because the people who are responsible for recruiting are middle-aged guys who want to have an unmarried female (especially one who stays alone in the city) around for some time pass. In my 4 years of career, I have seen this where Managers have chosen females, stating that since we could not find a low-cost male HR, we have taken a female HR. These kinds of dubious Managers do everything for these pretty female HRs, and these pretty ladies learn everything, and the moment they feel confident, they take up another job.
Basically, I strongly believe that a lot of middle-aged and old HR guys want to have a female around, and moreover, they cannot bear a young male because of his activeness, whereas females are a little submissive, and they listen to what these guys are saying. I am not an anti-woman kind of guy; this is a practical example I have seen in my career.
Regards,
Vinay
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Shakila, like other members, I also do not believe that females are dominating HR in Corporates. In fact, they are only doing coordination jobs. They are only contributing 25% to HR decisions.
Regards,
Shakila :P
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Females are dominating in the HR field because the people who are responsible for recruiting are middle-aged guys who want to have an unmarried female (especially one who stays alone in the city) around for some time pass. In my 4 years of career, I have seen this where Managers have chosen females, stating that since we could not find a low-cost male HR, we have taken a female HR. These kinds of dubious Managers do everything for these pretty female HRs, and these pretty ladies learn everything, and the moment they feel confident, they take up another job.
Basically, I strongly believe that a lot of middle-aged and old HR guys want to have a female around, and moreover, they cannot bear a young male because of his activeness, whereas females are a little submissive, and they listen to what these guys are saying. I am not an anti-woman kind of guy; this is a practical example I have seen in my career.
Regards,
Vinay
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Shakila, like other members, I also do not believe that females are dominating HR in Corporates. In fact, they are only doing coordination jobs. They are only contributing 25% to HR decisions.
Regards,
Shakila :P
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Hi ALL,
There have been too many discussions on the Gender Bias.
READ THIS EXCERPT FROM A SURVEY-IT IS ALL FACT
Obviously, no single individual can embody every one of the many traits we tend to call "female" or "male." In exploring such issues, we must allow for the sweep of imperfect generalizations.
With that understood, here's how women manage and why they often do it better than the guys.
Biology, upbringing make women more flexible
As we all know, gender differences stem from nurture and nature alike. It's not only socialization that shapes men and women. It's also biology.
In the past few decades, researchers have discovered physiological variations in the brains of men and women. For example, male brains are about 10% larger than female brains. But women have more nerve cells in certain areas. Women also tend to have a larger corpus collusum — the group of nerve fibers that connects left and right hemispheres. That makes women faster at transferring data between the computational, verbal left half and the intuitive, visual right half. Result: Women are more flexible and find it easier to multitask. Men are usually left-brain oriented. That often makes then better at solving abstract equations and problems.
As girls and boys grow up, of course, they're also molded by differing sets of social rules and expectations. Gender obviously colors behavior, perception, and just about everything else.
Women exhibit these leadership strengths
Typically, when comparing managers, the dialogue is framed as men's command-and-control style versus women's team-building or consensus approach.
"Women managers tend to have more of a desire to build than a desire to win," says Debra Burrell, a psychological social worker and regional training director of the Mars-Venus Institute in New York. "Women are more willing to explore compromise and to solicit other people's opinions." By contrast, men often think if they ask other people for advice, they'll be perceived as unsure or as a leader who doesn't have answers, according to Burrell.
Other female leadership strengths:
• Women tend to be better than men at empowering staff.
• Women encourage openness and are more accessible.
• Women leaders respond more quickly to calls for assistance.
• Women are more tolerant of differences, so they're more skilled at managing diversity.
• Women identify problems more quickly and more accurately.
• Women are better at defining job expectations and providing feedback.
On the other hand, men tend to be more confident and faster decision-makers compared to women. Male managers are also more adept at forming "navigational relationships," that is, temporary teams set up to achieve short-term goals, says management psychologist Ken Siegel, whose Los Angeles firm, the Impact Group, works with executives to develop leadership.
What about 'hard skills' and analysis?
Big deal, right? So women typically outperform men at communications and interpersonal skills, which is far from a news flash. You're probably thinking: Those are "soft skills," not the hard tools and analysis required to grow a business.
How do such "female" traits translate into better business management?
Generally, women delegate more readily and express appreciation more often. "Women ask questions, men tend to give answers," says Terri Levine, a career coach based in North Wales, Pa., who often advises entrepreneurs.
By communicating goals more readily and expressing appreciation more often, women tend to be better at making staffers feel recognized and rewarded. That translates into cost-effective staffing and recruiting.
Experience leading to broadening of women's skills
Lately, women are demonstrating higher levels of traditional "hard" or "male" skills as well. Some investigators suggest that many women workers had such skills all along, but that male bosses either overlooked or misperceived them. Others think the cumulative years of experience for women are broadening their skills.
One influential study, conducted in 1996 by management consultant Advanced Teamware (since merged with ConsultingTools), analyzed a database of 360-degree assessments for more than 6,000 managers. Such assessments include anonymous reviews from a manager's peers, supervisors and subordinates. The study looked at a range of managerial behavior, including problem solving, controlling, leading, communicating and more.
The results:
• "Our study demonstrates that women are considered better performers in both right- and left-brain skill areas."
• "Women received higher evaluations than men in 28 of the 31 individual behaviors, representing 90% of items."
• "The most problematic factor for women is Managing Self . . . The worst rated of the 31 behaviors is 'Coping with one's own frustrations.' "
But more glass ceilings ahead
Obviously, there are still very few women running Fortune 500 companies and, in the corporate VP ranks, there are roughly three men to every woman. So if women have the managerial edge, how come you don't see more of them in positions of power?
Here's my speculation: Men are used to running the show and, for the most part, don't reward "female" style management because they see it as weak. Women have had to prove, repeatedly, that their way of managing works. (Then, too, women have only begun to rise on corporate ladders. Give them time.)
Hope it will answer the question
Cheers!!
Archna
From India, Delhi
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There have been too many discussions on the Gender Bias.
READ THIS EXCERPT FROM A SURVEY-IT IS ALL FACT
Obviously, no single individual can embody every one of the many traits we tend to call "female" or "male." In exploring such issues, we must allow for the sweep of imperfect generalizations.
With that understood, here's how women manage and why they often do it better than the guys.
Biology, upbringing make women more flexible
As we all know, gender differences stem from nurture and nature alike. It's not only socialization that shapes men and women. It's also biology.
In the past few decades, researchers have discovered physiological variations in the brains of men and women. For example, male brains are about 10% larger than female brains. But women have more nerve cells in certain areas. Women also tend to have a larger corpus collusum — the group of nerve fibers that connects left and right hemispheres. That makes women faster at transferring data between the computational, verbal left half and the intuitive, visual right half. Result: Women are more flexible and find it easier to multitask. Men are usually left-brain oriented. That often makes then better at solving abstract equations and problems.
As girls and boys grow up, of course, they're also molded by differing sets of social rules and expectations. Gender obviously colors behavior, perception, and just about everything else.
Women exhibit these leadership strengths
Typically, when comparing managers, the dialogue is framed as men's command-and-control style versus women's team-building or consensus approach.
"Women managers tend to have more of a desire to build than a desire to win," says Debra Burrell, a psychological social worker and regional training director of the Mars-Venus Institute in New York. "Women are more willing to explore compromise and to solicit other people's opinions." By contrast, men often think if they ask other people for advice, they'll be perceived as unsure or as a leader who doesn't have answers, according to Burrell.
Other female leadership strengths:
• Women tend to be better than men at empowering staff.
• Women encourage openness and are more accessible.
• Women leaders respond more quickly to calls for assistance.
• Women are more tolerant of differences, so they're more skilled at managing diversity.
• Women identify problems more quickly and more accurately.
• Women are better at defining job expectations and providing feedback.
On the other hand, men tend to be more confident and faster decision-makers compared to women. Male managers are also more adept at forming "navigational relationships," that is, temporary teams set up to achieve short-term goals, says management psychologist Ken Siegel, whose Los Angeles firm, the Impact Group, works with executives to develop leadership.
What about 'hard skills' and analysis?
Big deal, right? So women typically outperform men at communications and interpersonal skills, which is far from a news flash. You're probably thinking: Those are "soft skills," not the hard tools and analysis required to grow a business.
How do such "female" traits translate into better business management?
Generally, women delegate more readily and express appreciation more often. "Women ask questions, men tend to give answers," says Terri Levine, a career coach based in North Wales, Pa., who often advises entrepreneurs.
By communicating goals more readily and expressing appreciation more often, women tend to be better at making staffers feel recognized and rewarded. That translates into cost-effective staffing and recruiting.
Experience leading to broadening of women's skills
Lately, women are demonstrating higher levels of traditional "hard" or "male" skills as well. Some investigators suggest that many women workers had such skills all along, but that male bosses either overlooked or misperceived them. Others think the cumulative years of experience for women are broadening their skills.
One influential study, conducted in 1996 by management consultant Advanced Teamware (since merged with ConsultingTools), analyzed a database of 360-degree assessments for more than 6,000 managers. Such assessments include anonymous reviews from a manager's peers, supervisors and subordinates. The study looked at a range of managerial behavior, including problem solving, controlling, leading, communicating and more.
The results:
• "Our study demonstrates that women are considered better performers in both right- and left-brain skill areas."
• "Women received higher evaluations than men in 28 of the 31 individual behaviors, representing 90% of items."
• "The most problematic factor for women is Managing Self . . . The worst rated of the 31 behaviors is 'Coping with one's own frustrations.' "
But more glass ceilings ahead
Obviously, there are still very few women running Fortune 500 companies and, in the corporate VP ranks, there are roughly three men to every woman. So if women have the managerial edge, how come you don't see more of them in positions of power?
Here's my speculation: Men are used to running the show and, for the most part, don't reward "female" style management because they see it as weak. Women have had to prove, repeatedly, that their way of managing works. (Then, too, women have only begun to rise on corporate ladders. Give them time.)
Hope it will answer the question
Cheers!!
Archna
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Hi! I fully support Archna. More and more Women are making their way to the Top. It is going to take time to break the glass ceiling but the transition will deifnitely take place. Regards, Shyamali
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Dear Friend Sid,
I know it's painful and hard to accept…………………..but do read Archana's article (if you can't get it the first time like most men …………….we won't mock you if you get a print out or something)…………………………..
Don't feel bad that we women are better at most things and all………………….
:o :D :D :o
From Sri Lanka
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I know it's painful and hard to accept…………………..but do read Archana's article (if you can't get it the first time like most men …………….we won't mock you if you get a print out or something)…………………………..
Don't feel bad that we women are better at most things and all………………….
:o :D :D :o
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Hi Ashra,
Judgment is to be given by the JUDGE only, not by the defendant. Similarly, when determining who the best candidate is, it is a matter of judgment by [someone specific], not by you. I'm kidding. Don't take it seriously. But one thing to keep in mind, apart from HR issues, MAN is dominant over WOMAN in each and every field right now.
Regards,
Sidhu
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Judgment is to be given by the JUDGE only, not by the defendant. Similarly, when determining who the best candidate is, it is a matter of judgment by [someone specific], not by you. I'm kidding. Don't take it seriously. But one thing to keep in mind, apart from HR issues, MAN is dominant over WOMAN in each and every field right now.
Regards,
Sidhu
From India, Bangalore
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Hey Sidhu,
Oh……………….you are so wrong, my friend……………….so very wrong!! I pity you, I only pray that God will throw you the torch to see things in the proper manner………………..really soon!!!!!!!!!! :D :D
Keep it cool……
:D
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Oh……………….you are so wrong, my friend……………….so very wrong!! I pity you, I only pray that God will throw you the torch to see things in the proper manner………………..really soon!!!!!!!!!! :D :D
Keep it cool……
:D
From Sri Lanka
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Hi Ashra,
Why only TORCH? God should throw a SEARCH LIGHT immediately on me to understand my fault. Isn't it? Now are you happy? Keep smiling and be happy... 😈 😂 😉
Cheers!
Sidhu
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Why only TORCH? God should throw a SEARCH LIGHT immediately on me to understand my fault. Isn't it? Now are you happy? Keep smiling and be happy... 😈 😂 😉
Cheers!
Sidhu
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Hi, Shakila,
Females are dominating in the HR field because the people who are responsible for recruiting are middle-aged guys who want to have an unmarried female (especially one who stays alone in the city) around for some time pass. In my 4 years of career, I have seen instances where Managers have hired females, stating that since they could not find a low-cost male HR, they opted for a female HR. These dubious Managers do everything for these pretty female HR's, and these women learn everything. Once they feel confident, they move on to another job.
Basically, I strongly believe that many middle-aged and older HR guys prefer having a female around. Moreover, they may not be able to handle a young male due to his activeness, whereas females are more submissive and tend to listen to what these guys are saying.
I am not an anti-woman kind of guy; this is a practical example I have witnessed in my career.
Regards,
Vinay
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From India, Hyderabad
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Females are dominating in the HR field because the people who are responsible for recruiting are middle-aged guys who want to have an unmarried female (especially one who stays alone in the city) around for some time pass. In my 4 years of career, I have seen instances where Managers have hired females, stating that since they could not find a low-cost male HR, they opted for a female HR. These dubious Managers do everything for these pretty female HR's, and these women learn everything. Once they feel confident, they move on to another job.
Basically, I strongly believe that many middle-aged and older HR guys prefer having a female around. Moreover, they may not be able to handle a young male due to his activeness, whereas females are more submissive and tend to listen to what these guys are saying.
I am not an anti-woman kind of guy; this is a practical example I have witnessed in my career.
Regards,
Vinay
9866254387
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Hi,
In my view, the main difference lies in competency requirements, as females are generally considered to excel over their male counterparts in behavioral competencies such as grievance handling skills, coordination, and communication. As one progresses up the ladder, behavioral competencies like change management, decision-making, and functional competencies come into play, where there is no gender bias.
Once again, I would like to emphasize, as mentioned earlier, that females often face more family responsibilities, leading them to sometimes compromise their professional careers as a result. This is one of the reasons why there is a higher percentage of male HR professionals in senior management positions.
Thanks,
Vishal
From India, Delhi
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In my view, the main difference lies in competency requirements, as females are generally considered to excel over their male counterparts in behavioral competencies such as grievance handling skills, coordination, and communication. As one progresses up the ladder, behavioral competencies like change management, decision-making, and functional competencies come into play, where there is no gender bias.
Once again, I would like to emphasize, as mentioned earlier, that females often face more family responsibilities, leading them to sometimes compromise their professional careers as a result. This is one of the reasons why there is a higher percentage of male HR professionals in senior management positions.
Thanks,
Vishal
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Hi Its only a perception that woman can handle grievences .. i firmly belives we MEN had given thi impression of such kind.. Rgrds Vinay
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HR function is a crucial job for the smooth functioning of any organization. In fact, females are typically very diplomatic, possess a high degree of discernment capability, and have a nature that allows for keen observation of details. These qualities are some of the reasons why females are well-suited for HR roles.
Sapan
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Dear Neha, Archana, and other female HR colleagues,
I totally agree with you and your views. I am not against working women or women in HR. I highly appreciate all that they are doing in HR. They say it is difficult to speak the truth, and it is equally difficult to listen to and accept the truth. I believe in data. Do you know:
1) How many females are heading the HR team of their organization where the company has just one office?
2) How many females are heading the National HR team where the company has more than one office?
3) How many females are heading the Global HR Team where the company has offices outside the country as well?
4) How many MNCs (those who have started their office in India) have a female as an HR head?
The fact is, out of the total HR heads across the country, only 12.63% of females are heading the HR departments in their companies. There are only 8.32% female HR heads of National Companies (companies having more than one office). There are only 5.76% Global Female Heads (where companies have offices outside of India as well). And in the last category, there are only 2.83% female HR heads in MNCs that have offices in India. (Courtesy: Virgin Management Consultancy)
I agree that women can understand people better than males. Then why are there fewer females in Politics (I call politics Public Service or People Service)? There, they need reservation to get enough representation.
I don't talk theories. I talk about facts and data.
Awaiting your comments.
Regards,
Sanjeev Sharma
Blog: http://sanjeevhimachali.blogspot.com/
From India, Mumbai
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I totally agree with you and your views. I am not against working women or women in HR. I highly appreciate all that they are doing in HR. They say it is difficult to speak the truth, and it is equally difficult to listen to and accept the truth. I believe in data. Do you know:
1) How many females are heading the HR team of their organization where the company has just one office?
2) How many females are heading the National HR team where the company has more than one office?
3) How many females are heading the Global HR Team where the company has offices outside the country as well?
4) How many MNCs (those who have started their office in India) have a female as an HR head?
The fact is, out of the total HR heads across the country, only 12.63% of females are heading the HR departments in their companies. There are only 8.32% female HR heads of National Companies (companies having more than one office). There are only 5.76% Global Female Heads (where companies have offices outside of India as well). And in the last category, there are only 2.83% female HR heads in MNCs that have offices in India. (Courtesy: Virgin Management Consultancy)
I agree that women can understand people better than males. Then why are there fewer females in Politics (I call politics Public Service or People Service)? There, they need reservation to get enough representation.
I don't talk theories. I talk about facts and data.
Awaiting your comments.
Regards,
Sanjeev Sharma
Blog: http://sanjeevhimachali.blogspot.com/
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Sanjeev,
I really liked the posts with facts, but in addition to what you have written, I just want to write this:
India has always been a male-dominated society for many centuries. Do you agree?
When did women's liberation come into the picture? In the late 80s.
Males have always dominated various industries and corporates, while females started much later. Do you agree?
In just two and a half decades, if females can grow to a certain level while fulfilling other responsibilities such as pregnancy, family care, and making sacrifices for various reasons, I think it is a great achievement, and we all should salute all the women for that.
I also like to discuss with facts, and I hope you agree with all that I have added.
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One more thing, why do we always talk about women's roles and higher positions in corporates? Why can't we talk about men taking care of household responsibilities?
People do not talk about that, which again proves that our society is still male-dominated. 😱
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Archna
From India, Delhi
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I really liked the posts with facts, but in addition to what you have written, I just want to write this:
India has always been a male-dominated society for many centuries. Do you agree?
When did women's liberation come into the picture? In the late 80s.
Males have always dominated various industries and corporates, while females started much later. Do you agree?
In just two and a half decades, if females can grow to a certain level while fulfilling other responsibilities such as pregnancy, family care, and making sacrifices for various reasons, I think it is a great achievement, and we all should salute all the women for that.
I also like to discuss with facts, and I hope you agree with all that I have added.
😃
One more thing, why do we always talk about women's roles and higher positions in corporates? Why can't we talk about men taking care of household responsibilities?
People do not talk about that, which again proves that our society is still male-dominated. 😱
Thanks & Regards,
Archna
From India, Delhi
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Dear Archana and other friends,
The society, until some time before, was a male-dominated one. But the scenario is rapidly changing, especially in urban areas, and changes take place at a slower pace in rural areas.
It is true and a good signal that females are now reaching top positions nowadays. The scenario now is that this society belongs to both females and males.
I can share a true incident that happened in Chennai. A husband and wife were both working and in good positions in their office with good salaries. They have two kids. At a later stage, they felt that the kids needed the presence of either the husband or wife.
They both discussed, and the husband decided to leave his job to take care of the household and the kids. Now they have a good life where the husband takes care of all the responsibilities at home, and the wife goes to the office as usual.
So, I believe both partners need to contribute in whatever way they can in order to have a good life.
Best wishes,
Senthil Raj
From Costa Rica, San José
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The society, until some time before, was a male-dominated one. But the scenario is rapidly changing, especially in urban areas, and changes take place at a slower pace in rural areas.
It is true and a good signal that females are now reaching top positions nowadays. The scenario now is that this society belongs to both females and males.
I can share a true incident that happened in Chennai. A husband and wife were both working and in good positions in their office with good salaries. They have two kids. At a later stage, they felt that the kids needed the presence of either the husband or wife.
They both discussed, and the husband decided to leave his job to take care of the household and the kids. Now they have a good life where the husband takes care of all the responsibilities at home, and the wife goes to the office as usual.
So, I believe both partners need to contribute in whatever way they can in order to have a good life.
Best wishes,
Senthil Raj
From Costa Rica, San José
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Hello Archana, Supriya, and other females in this discussion.
I never declined the females' contribution to society and the family. They are unmatched.
If the world or India is dominated by males, whose fault is this? If women never fought for their rights, whose fault is this? Sacrifices, family, pregnancy... to me, these are just excuses.
One more fact or data you might like to know, probably you are not aware; women at the top are alone. Those who are highly successful in their career, around 94.89% of them are either divorcees or never got married, and the remaining 6.11% had a nuclear family and very supportive husbands.
I had a boss, and he used to say, "The way ladies can handle the house and finance, the way they can keep the family united, no one can do that. It calls for perfection. So, let them choose. If they want a career, let them grow there. If they are at home, let them handle that properly. The problem starts when they want to step into two boats." (Do Naav mein chalney wale doob jaatey hain).
I can share my own example, my fiancée. I asked her what she wants, a career or a family. If she wants a family, then she needs to handle the whole family, and I will not interfere in that. And if she wants a career, then we can share the household work. Because we want a career, we want to grow professionally, we mutually decided not to have a family.
So, whenever you try to handle many things, you fail; you get stressed and burn out.
Regards,
Sanjeev Sharma
From India, Mumbai
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I never declined the females' contribution to society and the family. They are unmatched.
If the world or India is dominated by males, whose fault is this? If women never fought for their rights, whose fault is this? Sacrifices, family, pregnancy... to me, these are just excuses.
One more fact or data you might like to know, probably you are not aware; women at the top are alone. Those who are highly successful in their career, around 94.89% of them are either divorcees or never got married, and the remaining 6.11% had a nuclear family and very supportive husbands.
I had a boss, and he used to say, "The way ladies can handle the house and finance, the way they can keep the family united, no one can do that. It calls for perfection. So, let them choose. If they want a career, let them grow there. If they are at home, let them handle that properly. The problem starts when they want to step into two boats." (Do Naav mein chalney wale doob jaatey hain).
I can share my own example, my fiancée. I asked her what she wants, a career or a family. If she wants a family, then she needs to handle the whole family, and I will not interfere in that. And if she wants a career, then we can share the household work. Because we want a career, we want to grow professionally, we mutually decided not to have a family.
So, whenever you try to handle many things, you fail; you get stressed and burn out.
Regards,
Sanjeev Sharma
From India, Mumbai
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Hi Sanjeev,
You must have seen females who sacrifice their career for their family and handle it very efficiently. But have you ever seen a man who allows his wife to build her career and is ready to handle the family as his wife is doing?
I'm not saying this is solely the fault of men, but of course, you can't blame females for the same. They are the foundation of our society who build the future very strongly.
Supriya
From India, Mumbai
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You must have seen females who sacrifice their career for their family and handle it very efficiently. But have you ever seen a man who allows his wife to build her career and is ready to handle the family as his wife is doing?
I'm not saying this is solely the fault of men, but of course, you can't blame females for the same. They are the foundation of our society who build the future very strongly.
Supriya
From India, Mumbai
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Hi,
I think you are contradicting your own statements. First, you are saying that pregnancy and sacrificing a job due to family reasons are just excuses. Then, you mention that females who are successful in their careers, 94% of them are either never married or divorced. Are you implying that women who excel professionally often face challenges in their personal lives, leading many to pause their careers or take a break? This aligns with my belief that many women aspire to marry and recognize the importance of their roles as mothers, daughters, wives, and sisters in ensuring family success.
Furthermore, it is evident that we live in a male-dominated society, a fact widely acknowledged. Regarding your question about assisting your fiancée with household tasks, why shouldn't partners support each other in such responsibilities? How many men actually contribute equally to household chores for their wives? I anticipate significant changes in this dynamic by 2020.
From India, Delhi
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I think you are contradicting your own statements. First, you are saying that pregnancy and sacrificing a job due to family reasons are just excuses. Then, you mention that females who are successful in their careers, 94% of them are either never married or divorced. Are you implying that women who excel professionally often face challenges in their personal lives, leading many to pause their careers or take a break? This aligns with my belief that many women aspire to marry and recognize the importance of their roles as mothers, daughters, wives, and sisters in ensuring family success.
Furthermore, it is evident that we live in a male-dominated society, a fact widely acknowledged. Regarding your question about assisting your fiancée with household tasks, why shouldn't partners support each other in such responsibilities? How many men actually contribute equally to household chores for their wives? I anticipate significant changes in this dynamic by 2020.
From India, Delhi
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Archana, Supriya, and other ladies who participated in this debate...
Yes, the future will be different. Things are changing now itself. More and more people (males and females) are not making any commitment to any relation. Facts are proof that now people want to get married in their 30s, some in fact in their late 30s, because they want to have enough time for a professional life and career before making any such commitment. So, no doubt time is changing, and another 10-15 years will change the whole scenario and trend.
Nothing comes free. So, what cost are we paying for such change? Is it worth it? It is important to have dreams in life, and it is equally important to know the efforts that it will take to chase those dreams. Those who have dreams and have also realized the cost are successful, be it male or female. If Hillary Clinton becomes the President of the USA as predicted, she will be the first female President in more than 125 years of the history of the USA.
If I am helping my fiancée, it is for the obvious reason that we both want to grow professionally and make a place for ourselves. It is about understanding and having dreams.
Regards,
Sanjeev Sharma
From India, Mumbai
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Yes, the future will be different. Things are changing now itself. More and more people (males and females) are not making any commitment to any relation. Facts are proof that now people want to get married in their 30s, some in fact in their late 30s, because they want to have enough time for a professional life and career before making any such commitment. So, no doubt time is changing, and another 10-15 years will change the whole scenario and trend.
Nothing comes free. So, what cost are we paying for such change? Is it worth it? It is important to have dreams in life, and it is equally important to know the efforts that it will take to chase those dreams. Those who have dreams and have also realized the cost are successful, be it male or female. If Hillary Clinton becomes the President of the USA as predicted, she will be the first female President in more than 125 years of the history of the USA.
If I am helping my fiancée, it is for the obvious reason that we both want to grow professionally and make a place for ourselves. It is about understanding and having dreams.
Regards,
Sanjeev Sharma
From India, Mumbai
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Where is my goddamn sword! AAJ TO FEMALE BILL PASS HO KAR HE RAHEGA! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
But finally.... WHO'S GOING TO PASS THE BILL & WHY? DIVIDE AND RULE
And you know what, guys, animals are built for that. Path of Rationalisation. Sovereign (Matoo, Jessica Lal), Socialistic (Diversity in Uni..), Democratic (Bihar), Republic (J&K)
From India, Panipat
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But finally.... WHO'S GOING TO PASS THE BILL & WHY? DIVIDE AND RULE
And you know what, guys, animals are built for that. Path of Rationalisation. Sovereign (Matoo, Jessica Lal), Socialistic (Diversity in Uni..), Democratic (Bihar), Republic (J&K)
From India, Panipat
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