Dear seniors, I need your help regarding some doubts on PF.
PF Number Allotment for New Employees
1) If a new employee joins the organization, e.g., DOJ is 22-06-2013, when do I have to allot a PF number to him?
Delayed PF Number Allotment
2) If PF numbers are allotted 3 months or more after their DOJ for some employees, are there any chances for corrections or any punishments as per the law?
Missed PF Remittance
3) If PF remittance for some employees is eventually forgotten to be submitted for 6 months or more, what are the procedures or punishments?
Please let me know.
Thanks & Regards
From India, Hyderabad
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PF Number Allotment for New Employees
1) If a new employee joins the organization, e.g., DOJ is 22-06-2013, when do I have to allot a PF number to him?
Delayed PF Number Allotment
2) If PF numbers are allotted 3 months or more after their DOJ for some employees, are there any chances for corrections or any punishments as per the law?
Missed PF Remittance
3) If PF remittance for some employees is eventually forgotten to be submitted for 6 months or more, what are the procedures or punishments?
Please let me know.
Thanks & Regards
From India, Hyderabad
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Query No. 1: As and when an employee joins your organization, you have to allot the PF number.
Query No. 2: You can pay now; no punishment applies.
Query No. 3: You can remit the amounts without any fine.
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Lakshminaryana
From India, Hyderabad
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38Query No. 2: You can pay now; no punishment applies.
Query No. 3: You can remit the amounts without any fine.
Regards,
Lakshminaryana
From India, Hyderabad
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for no2. If you mentioned PF joining date actual and pay P F after 3 months, then indeed fine has to be paid and are mentioned in P F Act, please refer.
From India, Ahmadabad
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From India, Ahmadabad
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Thank you, Lepakshi and Bharadwaj. But I didn't understand. Maybe I posted the query wrongly. Actually, my queries are:
1) PF Number Allotment After 6 Months of Joining
i) If it differs from the actual Date of Joining (DOJ), what happens? Can I make any corrections, or do I have to face any punishments?
ii) If both the actual and PF DOJ are the same, what happens?
2) Forgetting PF Remittance for 10 Employees
If I forgot to submit PF remittance for 10 employees for 6 months or more, what are the procedures? Are there any fines or punishments I have to face?
From India, Hyderabad
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1) PF Number Allotment After 6 Months of Joining
i) If it differs from the actual Date of Joining (DOJ), what happens? Can I make any corrections, or do I have to face any punishments?
ii) If both the actual and PF DOJ are the same, what happens?
2) Forgetting PF Remittance for 10 Employees
If I forgot to submit PF remittance for 10 employees for 6 months or more, what are the procedures? Are there any fines or punishments I have to face?
From India, Hyderabad
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Please allot PF numbers serially in ascending order according to the chronological order of the Date of Joining for services. The Date of Joining for services and PF member joining should be the same. PF deductions must be made as per the rules effective from the date of joining. Do not make any corrections to the date of joining in both the organization as well as PF records.
Avoid late payments. If due to any issues, payment is delayed, your organization should pay interest and damages as per PF rules. Don't forget the remittance for the 6-month period for 10 employees, as your HR person is currently submitting PF online.
Regards,
Maher B.B.
From India, Jalgaon
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Avoid late payments. If due to any issues, payment is delayed, your organization should pay interest and damages as per PF rules. Don't forget the remittance for the 6-month period for 10 employees, as your HR person is currently submitting PF online.
Regards,
Maher B.B.
From India, Jalgaon
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Thank you, Lepakshi and Bharadwaj. I didn't understand. Maybe I posted the query wrongly. Actually, my queries are:
Queries on PF Number Allotment and Remittance
1) If a PF number/account is allotted after 6 months of joining:
- i) If it differs from the actual Date of Joining (DOJ), what happens? Can I make any corrections, or will I face any punishments?
- ii) If both the actual and PF DOJ's are the same, what happens?
2) If I forgot to submit PF remittance for 10 employees for 6 months or more, what are the procedures? Are there any fines or punishments I have to face?
As per my best knowledge, your queries can be addressed as follows:
1) If a PF number is allotted after 6 months of joining, meaning the PF eligibility was after 6 months of the employee joining, there shouldn't be a problem. You can pay the PF remittance from the applicability date, even if the joining date is 6 months earlier.
2) If the DOJ is after the PF applicability date, then the DOJ should be the same as the actual joining date. In this case, nothing happens; just pay the PF from the DOJ of the said employee.
3) If you forgot to submit the PF remittance, pay it now with interest and penalties if applicable.
I hope I have cleared your doubts.
From India, Ahmadabad
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Queries on PF Number Allotment and Remittance
1) If a PF number/account is allotted after 6 months of joining:
- i) If it differs from the actual Date of Joining (DOJ), what happens? Can I make any corrections, or will I face any punishments?
- ii) If both the actual and PF DOJ's are the same, what happens?
2) If I forgot to submit PF remittance for 10 employees for 6 months or more, what are the procedures? Are there any fines or punishments I have to face?
As per my best knowledge, your queries can be addressed as follows:
1) If a PF number is allotted after 6 months of joining, meaning the PF eligibility was after 6 months of the employee joining, there shouldn't be a problem. You can pay the PF remittance from the applicability date, even if the joining date is 6 months earlier.
2) If the DOJ is after the PF applicability date, then the DOJ should be the same as the actual joining date. In this case, nothing happens; just pay the PF from the DOJ of the said employee.
3) If you forgot to submit the PF remittance, pay it now with interest and penalties if applicable.
I hope I have cleared your doubts.
From India, Ahmadabad
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