Reporting Fake Experience to NASSCOM
Here, someone is a manager in an MNC, but he/she was terminated from top brand companies and was also given ATL (Asked to Leave). The experience of the respective companies has been shown as fake. During cross-checking, his/her own friend's number was given, and he/she passed the cross-verification.
Is there any way this can be brought to NASSCOM's attention? If yes, then how? Perhaps the company he/she is working with is not connected to NASSCOM.
Please help.
Regards
From India, Gurgaon
Here, someone is a manager in an MNC, but he/she was terminated from top brand companies and was also given ATL (Asked to Leave). The experience of the respective companies has been shown as fake. During cross-checking, his/her own friend's number was given, and he/she passed the cross-verification.
Is there any way this can be brought to NASSCOM's attention? If yes, then how? Perhaps the company he/she is working with is not connected to NASSCOM.
Please help.
Regards
From India, Gurgaon
Do you work for the MNC in which the manager works? If so, in what capacity? Why do you want to expose him/her?
From United Kingdom
From United Kingdom
Thanks for the reply again. No grudges, but today we are all fighting for our careers, even for a single promotion. When you see someone cheating the system, and no one notices, it really feels bad. On the other hand, there are people getting promotions by showcasing fake experience. It's obvious that a person with valid experience gets demotivated. Don't you think that someone with valid experience deserves and should get that chance? We should value that person too.
From India, Gurgaon
From India, Gurgaon
I do understand and appreciate your concern. I do not know about the background of the person. By exposing the person, would you not be hurting his innocent family? Would you be gaining any direct benefit? I, for one, would not do it. Maybe someone who knows how to go about it will guide you. I am based in the UK and do not know the procedure for informing NASSCOM.
From United Kingdom
From United Kingdom
Thank you for the response. I believe that by giving unfair chances to someone who does not deserve them, the organization is also hurting someone else or their family. My concern is about ensuring that a fair chance is given to those who truly deserve it and exposing individuals who are being deceitful, regardless of how strong their personality or position may be.
If you have any suggestions on how to address this issue, please let me know.
Thank you for your input and time. Have a great day ahead!
From India, Gurgaon
If you have any suggestions on how to address this issue, please let me know.
Thank you for your input and time. Have a great day ahead!
From India, Gurgaon
Dear Kaushal,
You have three options: (a) to inform the HR department of the company in which your friend works, (b) to inform NASSCOM directly, and (c) not to do anything and just keep quiet.
You do not wish to follow option (c). You have explained your viewpoint in the exchange of comments with Mr. Simhan. That leaves out options (a) and (b). In either option, there is one more risk. Suppose the fraud of a person is exposed; then the company will not only take action against the fraudster but also against the BG check agency for failing to detect the cooked-up CV. This would be collateral damage.
Out of options (a) and (b), I recommend you follow option (a). But then think ten times before informing the HR department of that company. Do you have 100% authentic information about the candidate, or have you believed what someone else has told you? While doing background checks, utmost care is taken to ensure that fraudulent candidates are kept at bay. I am a little surprised at how this candidate has hoodwinked the BG check agency also. In many cases, these agency representatives personally visit the companies.
For Mr. Simhan:
In your exchanges with Kaushal, you have written that the perpetrator of the fraud should be allowed to work unless one is not personally impacted by the fraudster's work. You say that the fraudster's family will get affected if he/she is terminated from the job. Who should be more responsible towards one’s family? Immediate family members or some third party? There is every possibility that this fraudster might have informed his family members about his chicanery. In that case, they were also privy to the fraud but they kept quiet!
The first lesson of management is to think from the head and not from the heart, Mr. Simhan. India is in a dire mess today because of the lack of stringency that Pt. Jawaharlal Nehru had shown. In this case, Kaushal wanted to be a social watchdog though prima facie he does not have locus standi. Therefore, in my personal opinion, I recommend he follow option (a).
Thanks,
Dinesh V Divekar
From India, Bangalore
You have three options: (a) to inform the HR department of the company in which your friend works, (b) to inform NASSCOM directly, and (c) not to do anything and just keep quiet.
You do not wish to follow option (c). You have explained your viewpoint in the exchange of comments with Mr. Simhan. That leaves out options (a) and (b). In either option, there is one more risk. Suppose the fraud of a person is exposed; then the company will not only take action against the fraudster but also against the BG check agency for failing to detect the cooked-up CV. This would be collateral damage.
Out of options (a) and (b), I recommend you follow option (a). But then think ten times before informing the HR department of that company. Do you have 100% authentic information about the candidate, or have you believed what someone else has told you? While doing background checks, utmost care is taken to ensure that fraudulent candidates are kept at bay. I am a little surprised at how this candidate has hoodwinked the BG check agency also. In many cases, these agency representatives personally visit the companies.
For Mr. Simhan:
In your exchanges with Kaushal, you have written that the perpetrator of the fraud should be allowed to work unless one is not personally impacted by the fraudster's work. You say that the fraudster's family will get affected if he/she is terminated from the job. Who should be more responsible towards one’s family? Immediate family members or some third party? There is every possibility that this fraudster might have informed his family members about his chicanery. In that case, they were also privy to the fraud but they kept quiet!
The first lesson of management is to think from the head and not from the heart, Mr. Simhan. India is in a dire mess today because of the lack of stringency that Pt. Jawaharlal Nehru had shown. In this case, Kaushal wanted to be a social watchdog though prima facie he does not have locus standi. Therefore, in my personal opinion, I recommend he follow option (a).
Thanks,
Dinesh V Divekar
From India, Bangalore
Thanks, Dinesh, that was really a satisfactory answer to my question. However, you will be surprised, but I have tried option (a) twice or thrice, but nothing happened. I was left with no option but to discuss it here to get an accurate answer. That's why I straightaway asked for the procedure of Nascom. Mr. Simhan also answered my question, and I am thankful to him for giving his precious time to answer my query.
So, Mr. Dinesh, I used to work with that person, and every time I knew the reason why he/she was leaving and whose contact he/she gave for verification. His/her own good friends used to be his/her manager and did a verification for this fraudulent activity. So, I think you know where I am coming from. Thanks for shedding some light on this issue. Please guide me on the procedure for option (b). Thanks, Mr. Simhan and Mr. Dinesh.
From India, Gurgaon
So, Mr. Dinesh, I used to work with that person, and every time I knew the reason why he/she was leaving and whose contact he/she gave for verification. His/her own good friends used to be his/her manager and did a verification for this fraudulent activity. So, I think you know where I am coming from. Thanks for shedding some light on this issue. Please guide me on the procedure for option (b). Thanks, Mr. Simhan and Mr. Dinesh.
From India, Gurgaon
If you are so determined, why not write a letter to the Managing Director (MD) of that person's company? Send it by courier or registered post, but provide a fictitious name and address. In your letter, provide specific details of where the candidate has displayed fake experience.
I doubt NASSCOM will assist you in this matter. While they maintain a registry of blacklisted candidates, I question whether they do so based on third-party recommendations. They typically only take action if the company conducts an investigation, finds the employee at fault, and recommends adding the employee's name to the registry as a deterrent to potential fraudsters.
Gurgaon is also a major IT hub. You may find a NASSCOM branch in Gurgaon. Obtain the local contact number from their website and speak with someone affiliated with the organization to inquire further.
Let me emphasize the importance of being cautious once again, as this concerns someone's career or even their life. Are you taking these actions out of animosity towards this person? Has this individual caused you harm in any way, or are you pursuing this for the sake of social justice?
Regards,
DVD
From India, Bangalore
I doubt NASSCOM will assist you in this matter. While they maintain a registry of blacklisted candidates, I question whether they do so based on third-party recommendations. They typically only take action if the company conducts an investigation, finds the employee at fault, and recommends adding the employee's name to the registry as a deterrent to potential fraudsters.
Gurgaon is also a major IT hub. You may find a NASSCOM branch in Gurgaon. Obtain the local contact number from their website and speak with someone affiliated with the organization to inquire further.
Let me emphasize the importance of being cautious once again, as this concerns someone's career or even their life. Are you taking these actions out of animosity towards this person? Has this individual caused you harm in any way, or are you pursuing this for the sake of social justice?
Regards,
DVD
From India, Bangalore
Understanding the Situation
After going through your last note, I am surprised why you are worried so much about this person. Maybe you had some very close relations with him that have now fallen apart. When you have written to his employer and they have no objection to his fraud or wrongdoing, then what can anybody do? If it's a government company, you can go to court for the impropriety, but in the private sector, it depends on the management of the company. They can hire anyone they like, and no association can force them to remove any employee.
Legal Options and Moving Forward
So, if your only target in life is to take revenge on this person for the hurt he has caused you, find some legal grounds and file a criminal case against him. Otherwise, just forget it. In India, there are lakhs of people who have taken or were forced to take such steps to continue their careers and progress.
The Power of Forgiveness
Please learn to forgive people for their mistakes; that will give you peace of mind and help you grow in your career. Be sure that this type of person will get caught someday for some of his mistakes. On the other hand, please understand that to live a normal life and grow in your career, one must have a calm mind. If you have a calm mind, you can grow fast; otherwise, you will just keep finding faults in others. These experience certificates and background checks can give a break to anyone, but no one can grow in their career without performance.
With Best Wishes,
Navneet Sarin
Advocate
From India, Delhi
After going through your last note, I am surprised why you are worried so much about this person. Maybe you had some very close relations with him that have now fallen apart. When you have written to his employer and they have no objection to his fraud or wrongdoing, then what can anybody do? If it's a government company, you can go to court for the impropriety, but in the private sector, it depends on the management of the company. They can hire anyone they like, and no association can force them to remove any employee.
Legal Options and Moving Forward
So, if your only target in life is to take revenge on this person for the hurt he has caused you, find some legal grounds and file a criminal case against him. Otherwise, just forget it. In India, there are lakhs of people who have taken or were forced to take such steps to continue their careers and progress.
The Power of Forgiveness
Please learn to forgive people for their mistakes; that will give you peace of mind and help you grow in your career. Be sure that this type of person will get caught someday for some of his mistakes. On the other hand, please understand that to live a normal life and grow in your career, one must have a calm mind. If you have a calm mind, you can grow fast; otherwise, you will just keep finding faults in others. These experience certificates and background checks can give a break to anyone, but no one can grow in their career without performance.
With Best Wishes,
Navneet Sarin
Advocate
From India, Delhi
NASSCOM and Employee Blacklisting
NASSCOM does not maintain any list of employees who have been blacklisted. The National Skills Registry (NSR) maintained by NASSCOM is to provide authenticated details of employees in the IT-BPO industry, provided these employees have themselves agreed to be a part of this Registry. This Registry only maintains factual and objectively verifiable data of an employee.
If you are sure that the person has faked his/her experience letters, then the best course of action for you is to share the information with the HR department for them to take action that they think is appropriate.
Regards,
R. Bhatnagar
From India, Bangalore
NASSCOM does not maintain any list of employees who have been blacklisted. The National Skills Registry (NSR) maintained by NASSCOM is to provide authenticated details of employees in the IT-BPO industry, provided these employees have themselves agreed to be a part of this Registry. This Registry only maintains factual and objectively verifiable data of an employee.
If you are sure that the person has faked his/her experience letters, then the best course of action for you is to share the information with the HR department for them to take action that they think is appropriate.
Regards,
R. Bhatnagar
From India, Bangalore
There may be many who have such fake experiences in various companies. In this learned forum itself, queries are seen regarding how to escape from the consequences of fake experience certificates and so on. My advice would be to forget about this person and move on in life. By removing him, is it going to progress your career? By this belated whistleblowing, you may yourself be looked at with caution and affect your career in the bargain. There are grey areas in the working of almost any company, and being seen as a whistleblower may not be a path to progress. This issue is not of critical importance in your career. I, of course, do not advocate closing eyes to all dishonest practices. One must be bold and refuse to do wrong things, but one must equally draw a line and not get involved in these activities, which are more personality-oriented. Concentration on career growth by professional work will pay more dividends.
From India, Pune
From India, Pune
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