Dear Seniors,
I would like to know if one of our employees, who worked in another company in the past, wants to merge his EPF pension fund with a new EPF account with us. He has withdrawn EPF funds without the pension fund.
If this is possible, what is the procedure?
Thanks & Regards,
Sanjay
From India, New Delhi
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1I would like to know if one of our employees, who worked in another company in the past, wants to merge his EPF pension fund with a new EPF account with us. He has withdrawn EPF funds without the pension fund.
If this is possible, what is the procedure?
Thanks & Regards,
Sanjay
From India, New Delhi
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Dear Sanjay,
Please collect Form 13 from the EPF Office or download it from epfindia.com website. Form 13 should be certified by the present employer and submitted to the present EPF Office where your employee has deposited.
The PF Office will take the necessary steps to accumulate the past PF Amount & Exp. into the new account.
Regards,
From India, Hyderabad
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Please collect Form 13 from the EPF Office or download it from epfindia.com website. Form 13 should be certified by the present employer and submitted to the present EPF Office where your employee has deposited.
The PF Office will take the necessary steps to accumulate the past PF Amount & Exp. into the new account.
Regards,
From India, Hyderabad
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Mr. Sanjay,
It appears that the employee who joined you has already withdrawn his P.F. amount upon leaving the previous employer, as per your statement, but wants to deposit it in the P.F. account with you. Form 13 pertains to the transfer of the balance in the P.F. account of an employee who leaves one establishment and joins another establishment. In this case, if he has withdrawn the amount from his P.F. account, there will be no balance in his account to be transferred by the P.F. Department to the new establishment, and he ceases to be a member of the P.F. Probably, he has to qualify afresh in your establishment and make an application to the P.F. through you, requesting permission to deposit the P.F. amount from the account of the old employer. You can check this aspect.
B. Saikumar
HR & Labour Law Advisor
Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
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It appears that the employee who joined you has already withdrawn his P.F. amount upon leaving the previous employer, as per your statement, but wants to deposit it in the P.F. account with you. Form 13 pertains to the transfer of the balance in the P.F. account of an employee who leaves one establishment and joins another establishment. In this case, if he has withdrawn the amount from his P.F. account, there will be no balance in his account to be transferred by the P.F. Department to the new establishment, and he ceases to be a member of the P.F. Probably, he has to qualify afresh in your establishment and make an application to the P.F. through you, requesting permission to deposit the P.F. amount from the account of the old employer. You can check this aspect.
B. Saikumar
HR & Labour Law Advisor
Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Sir,
Thank you for your reply.
The situation is that the employee has withdrawn his EPF without the pension fund, and the EPF department has created a pension amount for the same. Now, the employee wants to know if his previous service pension amount can be transferred or included in his new PF account with us. If this is possible, how can it be done?
Please advise.
Sanjay
From India, New Delhi
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Thank you for your reply.
The situation is that the employee has withdrawn his EPF without the pension fund, and the EPF department has created a pension amount for the same. Now, the employee wants to know if his previous service pension amount can be transferred or included in his new PF account with us. If this is possible, how can it be done?
Please advise.
Sanjay
From India, New Delhi
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Mr. Sanjay,
When an employee is not eligible to withdraw pension at the time of leaving the previous employer because he has not completed 10 years of service, he can obtain a scheme certificate from the P.F Commissioner. This certificate indicates the pensionable service, the pensionable salary, and the amount of pension due on the date of the employee's exit from the previous establishment. The pensionable service in the previous establishment shall be reckoned with for pension along with the fresh spell of pensionable service in your establishment.
Trust this would clarify your issue.
B. Saikumar
HR & Labour Law Advisor
Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
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When an employee is not eligible to withdraw pension at the time of leaving the previous employer because he has not completed 10 years of service, he can obtain a scheme certificate from the P.F Commissioner. This certificate indicates the pensionable service, the pensionable salary, and the amount of pension due on the date of the employee's exit from the previous establishment. The pensionable service in the previous establishment shall be reckoned with for pension along with the fresh spell of pensionable service in your establishment.
Trust this would clarify your issue.
B. Saikumar
HR & Labour Law Advisor
Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
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Hello Sai,
I just have a query. I moved from one PSU to another, both of them operate PF Trusts of their own. I transferred my PF to the new employer. Now, do I collect a scheme certificate from my previous employer's Trust, or can I get a scheme certificate from the PF authorities.
From India, Delhi
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I just have a query. I moved from one PSU to another, both of them operate PF Trusts of their own. I transferred my PF to the new employer. Now, do I collect a scheme certificate from my previous employer's Trust, or can I get a scheme certificate from the PF authorities.
From India, Delhi
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Dear Friends,
Eligibility for PF Pension Scheme is 10 years. At the time of leaving, if an employee has put in less than 10 years of service, he can withdraw the amount accumulated in his Pension Fund by filling Form 10 C. If he has put in more than 10 years of service at the time of leaving, he should fill Form 10 C and obtain a Scheme Certificate. When he joins a new company, he should inform the new employer about his Scheme Certificate and submit the original Scheme Certificate for onward submission to PF Authorities. The new employer should submit the Scheme Certificate along with Form 5 to PF Authorities with a request to merge his Pension Fund.
Mr. Sanjy, I hope the above clears your doubts.
Regards,
Ganesh
From India, Mumbai
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Eligibility for PF Pension Scheme is 10 years. At the time of leaving, if an employee has put in less than 10 years of service, he can withdraw the amount accumulated in his Pension Fund by filling Form 10 C. If he has put in more than 10 years of service at the time of leaving, he should fill Form 10 C and obtain a Scheme Certificate. When he joins a new company, he should inform the new employer about his Scheme Certificate and submit the original Scheme Certificate for onward submission to PF Authorities. The new employer should submit the Scheme Certificate along with Form 5 to PF Authorities with a request to merge his Pension Fund.
Mr. Sanjy, I hope the above clears your doubts.
Regards,
Ganesh
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Sanajy, The case is like,the employee has just filled form no 19 and not form no.10 C .If it is so then Sai Kumar sir is very correct. Mangesh Wakodkar
From India, Pune
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From India, Pune
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Dear Sir,
Yes, it is possible. Please ask him to apply in Form-13 transfer application. After submission, the PF authorities will take steps for the transfer of his pension account to the present account. The PF amount was already withdrawn by him. No need to worry.
D. Gurumurthy
HR/IR Consultant
From India, Hyderabad
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Yes, it is possible. Please ask him to apply in Form-13 transfer application. After submission, the PF authorities will take steps for the transfer of his pension account to the present account. The PF amount was already withdrawn by him. No need to worry.
D. Gurumurthy
HR/IR Consultant
From India, Hyderabad
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Dear Sir & Friends,
If an employee has worked 5 months in an organization and then left, withdrawing his PF amount but not receiving the Pension fund (as per the rule of not completing a minimum of 6 months of service), can he transfer his previous pension fund to his current employer's PF pension account after joining another organization three years later?
Awaiting your valuable reply.
Thanks & Regards,
Nilesh
From India, New Delhi
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If an employee has worked 5 months in an organization and then left, withdrawing his PF amount but not receiving the Pension fund (as per the rule of not completing a minimum of 6 months of service), can he transfer his previous pension fund to his current employer's PF pension account after joining another organization three years later?
Awaiting your valuable reply.
Thanks & Regards,
Nilesh
From India, New Delhi
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When an employee is not eligible to withdraw pension at the time of leaving the previous employer because he has not completed 10 years of service, he can obtain a scheme certificate from the P.F. Commissioner. This certificate indicates the pensionable service, the pensionable salary, and the amount of pension due on the date of the employee's exit from his previous establishment. Such pensionable service in the previous establishment shall be reckoned for pension along with the fresh spell of pensionable service in your establishment.
Trust this would clarify your issue.
B. Saikumar
HR & Labour Law Advisor
Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
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Trust this would clarify your issue.
B. Saikumar
HR & Labour Law Advisor
Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Seniors,
When I was working with my previous employer, EPF was being managed through a trust. I worked there for 7 years (the first 7 years of my career) and then moved on to another company. During this transition, I withdrew the Pension amount (Form 10C) but transferred my EPF amount. The EPF amount seems to have transferred because it reflects in my company's EPF statement, and I also have the submitted cheque details for this transfer. The problem is the transferred amount does not reflect in EPFO's balance or E-Passbook, which is my concern. My current employer has suggested me to raise a grievance for this, but since the portal has been under maintenance for the last 2 weeks, I thought to gather more views on this.
I want to understand if it is because I withdrew the pension amount or if it is purely some issue with the EPF balance/e-passbook. What actions do you suggest for me?
Thanks,
Nitin
From India, Gurgaon
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When I was working with my previous employer, EPF was being managed through a trust. I worked there for 7 years (the first 7 years of my career) and then moved on to another company. During this transition, I withdrew the Pension amount (Form 10C) but transferred my EPF amount. The EPF amount seems to have transferred because it reflects in my company's EPF statement, and I also have the submitted cheque details for this transfer. The problem is the transferred amount does not reflect in EPFO's balance or E-Passbook, which is my concern. My current employer has suggested me to raise a grievance for this, but since the portal has been under maintenance for the last 2 weeks, I thought to gather more views on this.
I want to understand if it is because I withdrew the pension amount or if it is purely some issue with the EPF balance/e-passbook. What actions do you suggest for me?
Thanks,
Nitin
From India, Gurgaon
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Missed mentioning in my previous post, one more thing that I want to understand is - since I withdrew my Pension amount, would I not be eligible for PF withdrawal for Home Loan payment after 10 years of my service?
Thanks, Nitin
From India, Gurgaon
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Thanks, Nitin
From India, Gurgaon
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Dear Sir/Madam,
I have 4 EPF accounts in total, out of which 1 is operational (with my current employer) and the other 3 are dormant. May I know what the process is to transfer my old EPFs (dormant/inactive ones) to my current EPF account.
Regards,
Gaurav Chakravarti
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I have 4 EPF accounts in total, out of which 1 is operational (with my current employer) and the other 3 are dormant. May I know what the process is to transfer my old EPFs (dormant/inactive ones) to my current EPF account.
Regards,
Gaurav Chakravarti
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Hello Seniors,
I had transferred the PF amount from my past company PF A/C to present company PF A/C by submitting Form 13.
The PF amount has transferred to my current PF account (only Employee share and Employer Share but not the Pension Fund).
Past PF Account details:
Worked from 5/04/2010 to 13/12/2012
Employee Share : 37025
Employer Share : 22443
Pension Fund : 14066
Transferred Details – to Current PF Account:
Employee Share : 40555
Employer Share : 24471
Pension Fund : 0
The amount deducted for Pension Fund(14066 is not transferred).
Could you please suggest me how to transfer/withdraw the Pension Fund amount.
Regards,
Shivaraj Hiremath
From India, Bangalore
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I had transferred the PF amount from my past company PF A/C to present company PF A/C by submitting Form 13.
The PF amount has transferred to my current PF account (only Employee share and Employer Share but not the Pension Fund).
Past PF Account details:
Worked from 5/04/2010 to 13/12/2012
Employee Share : 37025
Employer Share : 22443
Pension Fund : 14066
Transferred Details – to Current PF Account:
Employee Share : 40555
Employer Share : 24471
Pension Fund : 0
The amount deducted for Pension Fund(14066 is not transferred).
Could you please suggest me how to transfer/withdraw the Pension Fund amount.
Regards,
Shivaraj Hiremath
From India, Bangalore
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Hello,
I worked for a company for 4.6 years, and later it was taken over by a new firm. The new firm had to create a new PF A/C number, and the previous employer's PF amount was transferred to the new PF A/C. When I checked both statements, I noticed that the Employee Share & Employer Share have been transferred, but the Pension fund has not been transferred. Please advise if the amount can be transferred or if I can withdraw it.
Thanks,
Satish
From United Kingdom
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I worked for a company for 4.6 years, and later it was taken over by a new firm. The new firm had to create a new PF A/C number, and the previous employer's PF amount was transferred to the new PF A/C. When I checked both statements, I noticed that the Employee Share & Employer Share have been transferred, but the Pension fund has not been transferred. Please advise if the amount can be transferred or if I can withdraw it.
Thanks,
Satish
From United Kingdom
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Dear All, i heard that the PF transfer is now available online... is it correct...? if yes kindly guide the procedures. Regards Rajiv Sri
From India, Jamshedpur
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From India, Jamshedpur
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I had left service in 2005 but not submitted Form 10C for scheme certificate although I have served the previous company for more than 15 years.
Please advise how to collect the scheme certificate.
Thanks,
Partha Sarkar
partha.sarkar41@gmail.com
From India, Kolkata
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Please advise how to collect the scheme certificate.
Thanks,
Partha Sarkar
partha.sarkar41@gmail.com
From India, Kolkata
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I had transferred one of my PF accounts and merged it with the new one online. In the UAN portal, when I checked my passbook, only the employee and employer's share had been transferred, but the pension fund is not reflecting there. What could be the status of that?
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