what should a manager do if he is a very good people developer but all his good employees are poached by his rivals?
From India, Pune
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Dear Jess,
The manager should not join the rival! Humor aside, the retention of the employee depends on the organization's culture as well. Merely having a good manager is not sufficient. You need to conduct a market survey of the salaries paid in your industry. If the salaries are at par with market standards, then conduct an employee satisfaction survey. Something unknown will surely come out.
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DVD
From India, Bangalore
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8072The manager should not join the rival! Humor aside, the retention of the employee depends on the organization's culture as well. Merely having a good manager is not sufficient. You need to conduct a market survey of the salaries paid in your industry. If the salaries are at par with market standards, then conduct an employee satisfaction survey. Something unknown will surely come out.
Ok.
DVD
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Dear Jess, It is always better that we (that pose questions) clearly indicate what our role is and why we are asking the question. Are the rivals internal or external? Have a nice day. Simhan
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Dear Jess,
If, in your opinion, the manager is so good, then why should his employees leave?
Why employees leave is a question that does not have any single reason. In our career, we will find employees leaving the organization that has just recognized their performance and given them a promotion.
The fact is different employees react differently to different situations. We have observed that employees who have been exploited by employers in the past in some form are likely to stay longer when compared to others. So, the selection process should aim to fill up the position, not just a vacancy. By filling up the vacancy, HR has just ticked off one pending job, but when you try to fill up the position, you actually spend more time recruiting (probing their reasons for leaving past employments). In these days, we find that employees leave organizations within just 2 years to get a higher CTC. These job hoppers need to be discouraged as they put a lot of pressure on the HR department since the recruitment cycle is always incomplete.
On the other hand, please ensure that the compensation of your employees is on par with industry standards and that you are not exploiting them just because they are not moving away from you.
As managers, we only focus on employee development inside the office. The focus should also be on discreetly monitoring the social groups formed outside the organization. Visiting weddings of colleagues will give you a very good insight into informal groups. You can also observe reactions/comments about the organization when they are outside the office.
It is a long-drawn process. Lastly, but not the least, show real interest in their personal lives, help them in troubled conditions (personal help only, no official color).
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M.V. Kannan
From India, Madras
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If, in your opinion, the manager is so good, then why should his employees leave?
Why employees leave is a question that does not have any single reason. In our career, we will find employees leaving the organization that has just recognized their performance and given them a promotion.
The fact is different employees react differently to different situations. We have observed that employees who have been exploited by employers in the past in some form are likely to stay longer when compared to others. So, the selection process should aim to fill up the position, not just a vacancy. By filling up the vacancy, HR has just ticked off one pending job, but when you try to fill up the position, you actually spend more time recruiting (probing their reasons for leaving past employments). In these days, we find that employees leave organizations within just 2 years to get a higher CTC. These job hoppers need to be discouraged as they put a lot of pressure on the HR department since the recruitment cycle is always incomplete.
On the other hand, please ensure that the compensation of your employees is on par with industry standards and that you are not exploiting them just because they are not moving away from you.
As managers, we only focus on employee development inside the office. The focus should also be on discreetly monitoring the social groups formed outside the organization. Visiting weddings of colleagues will give you a very good insight into informal groups. You can also observe reactions/comments about the organization when they are outside the office.
It is a long-drawn process. Lastly, but not the least, show real interest in their personal lives, help them in troubled conditions (personal help only, no official color).
Regards,
M.V. Kannan
From India, Madras
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R u sure that your employees are overall satisfied with the culture within your company? Have you tried a one-to-one interview when they decide to leave? What is the morale like amongst the employees? Do they talk to you about problems at work? Do they confide in you? If yes, have you ever tried solving their professional problems or helping the employees solve their professional problems? Sometimes the problems could be personal as well. Have you tried doing a 360° survey to know what employees generally think of top management? You'll have to make sure it remains confidential.
Lastly, just talking nicely and humanely to people does not help. Do you actually connect with your people?
From India, Jaipur
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Lastly, just talking nicely and humanely to people does not help. Do you actually connect with your people?
From India, Jaipur
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Hi,
Just look at external equity and the compensation levels of rivals. Also, apart from money, employees also look for other benefits and factors of satisfaction.
Finally, as mentioned before, employees leave because of organizational culture, ethos, etc., which even a good manager cannot control.
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Suman Banerjee
From India, Calcutta
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Just look at external equity and the compensation levels of rivals. Also, apart from money, employees also look for other benefits and factors of satisfaction.
Finally, as mentioned before, employees leave because of organizational culture, ethos, etc., which even a good manager cannot control.
Regards,
Suman Banerjee
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For retention of particular employees, an organization needs to strive more and more towards building a good corporate culture, along with different programs for employees, periodic gifts, and celebrations to make them feel like a part of the company. Openness and a sense of belongingness may sometimes serve the purpose.
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Dear Mr. Kannan,
You are right that people usually leave organizations within 2 years for better compensation, but please let me know why companies' HR departments do not offer competitive salaries at the time of hiring these individuals. In my opinion, if a person is hired at a good salary, they are more likely to stay with the organization for a longer period. In today's scenario, where individuals frequently switch companies for higher pay, it makes sense to invest in hiring the right talent at a competitive salary. This can potentially discourage them from leaving due to the attractive package and benefits offered by the current company.
I may be mistaken in my perception, but this seems to be the prevailing trend today.
Regards,
Amit Pathak
From India, Delhi
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You are right that people usually leave organizations within 2 years for better compensation, but please let me know why companies' HR departments do not offer competitive salaries at the time of hiring these individuals. In my opinion, if a person is hired at a good salary, they are more likely to stay with the organization for a longer period. In today's scenario, where individuals frequently switch companies for higher pay, it makes sense to invest in hiring the right talent at a competitive salary. This can potentially discourage them from leaving due to the attractive package and benefits offered by the current company.
I may be mistaken in my perception, but this seems to be the prevailing trend today.
Regards,
Amit Pathak
From India, Delhi
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Apart from what has been said already by others, poaching is a situation you have to live with in today's world. Check attrition rate for your group/Dept. Provide for that many replacements. If your relationship has been good, there are that many more people batting for you outside your organization, and if these are technical people, you will have a network that will have exceedingly high value as time passes. Besides, the manager must not remain the sole trainer; he/she should train people so that they, in turn, can train new recruits as they come in. Everyone knows that there is a dearth of employable people today.
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Did you ever hear of a stay interview? Keeping communications open with employees lets you know what they want. Even exit interviews will help you determine why they are leaving, but stay interviews help you determine why they are staying and what they would like that they are not getting. It could be money, benefits, engagement... Get to know your employees and what they want. Maybe even find out what they are getting at other employers that they are not getting from you. Then you can address the missing component. Some like the people development while others are looking for different motivation to stay.
From United States, Gardnerville
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There is a manager of a small division of a big company. He identifies and recruits the best people for his division. He is a great people developer and makes a lot of effort to develop the skills of his people, but the more their skills are developed, the more his employees are poached by divisions both inside and outside his organization. The manager is not able to retain his talent despite giving employees challenging and motivating jobs. What should the manager do to retain talent?
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Dear Amit,
I agree that organizations have to pay on par with industry standards. First of all, you will not be able to assess all parameters of an individual while you recruit him. For example, if he is the best, we will not be able to assess whether he will stay long enough and if he stays long enough, will he contribute as much as your existing employees do.
But what is the pay that will satisfy individuals? If one organization is paying a CTC of, say, 5.0 Lakhs p.a. and the other organization is paying, say, 5.5 Lakhs, and your employee decides to leave, then it will be difficult for you to match the CTC of 5.5 Lakhs because if you do so for that particular employee, then what happens to employees who have been loyal to you for several years? Can we go on hiking salaries for all employees at all levels? Just try and work out a pay packet for all employees considering a hypothetical situation when an employee leaves for a pay hike, and the overall cost to the company for all employees will be a mind-blowing number, and HR guys will be fired for not being able to maintain a check on salaries.
Think one hundred times before we make amendments on monetary matters for employees. If you increase indiscriminately for a particular employee without increasing for others, either the attrition rate will increase, or employees will continue to threaten to resign, and you will have tremendous pressure from all departments. Watch out!!
M.V.KANNAN
From India, Madras
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I agree that organizations have to pay on par with industry standards. First of all, you will not be able to assess all parameters of an individual while you recruit him. For example, if he is the best, we will not be able to assess whether he will stay long enough and if he stays long enough, will he contribute as much as your existing employees do.
But what is the pay that will satisfy individuals? If one organization is paying a CTC of, say, 5.0 Lakhs p.a. and the other organization is paying, say, 5.5 Lakhs, and your employee decides to leave, then it will be difficult for you to match the CTC of 5.5 Lakhs because if you do so for that particular employee, then what happens to employees who have been loyal to you for several years? Can we go on hiking salaries for all employees at all levels? Just try and work out a pay packet for all employees considering a hypothetical situation when an employee leaves for a pay hike, and the overall cost to the company for all employees will be a mind-blowing number, and HR guys will be fired for not being able to maintain a check on salaries.
Think one hundred times before we make amendments on monetary matters for employees. If you increase indiscriminately for a particular employee without increasing for others, either the attrition rate will increase, or employees will continue to threaten to resign, and you will have tremendous pressure from all departments. Watch out!!
M.V.KANNAN
From India, Madras
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Hi Jess,
Make sure you try getting in touch with those people who have already left your organization. Casually ask them what was the reason. At the same time, conduct an internal satisfaction level survey with the existing employees. Include questions such as what would satisfy them more or what they look for in a career - i.e., money, peace, whether they are enjoying their work, etc. This list will help you know whom you need to groom and whom not. Even if you try to develop people and they leave, let them leave; they were never worth it. But somewhere, will they miss you? So, chill and thanks for asking this question.
From India, Mumbai
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Make sure you try getting in touch with those people who have already left your organization. Casually ask them what was the reason. At the same time, conduct an internal satisfaction level survey with the existing employees. Include questions such as what would satisfy them more or what they look for in a career - i.e., money, peace, whether they are enjoying their work, etc. This list will help you know whom you need to groom and whom not. Even if you try to develop people and they leave, let them leave; they were never worth it. But somewhere, will they miss you? So, chill and thanks for asking this question.
From India, Mumbai
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