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16th October 2007 From India, Kannur
Hi,
Being an HR person you have to handle recruitments, post hirings, indution, orientation, payrolls, employee communication, trainning & development.
HR is the back bone of any organization, so HR People have to work hard as they have to make people happy in the organization. So have to be perfect in communication & behavior.
Best regards,
Nidhi Singh :D
16th October 2007 From India, Delhi
No job in HR,,
just search cite hr posts ull come to know how many people are saying rarely they have any work in HR... u also welcome to HR,, be in HR and enjoy...
Just pin point what others are not doing,, thats ur only job...
and do some paper work sort resumes,,, ok :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
16th October 2007 From India, Pune
Dear All,
I am really surprised to see the response of this person saying no work in HR. I dont want to say anything bcoz being in HR I have a lot of work, it will not get complete if I'll sit the whole night in the office.
People wants to learn- learning never ends
People dont want to learn- There is nothing to learn & to do.
Best regards,
Nidhi Singh
17th October 2007 From India, Delhi
Hi Friend..
HR is one Department wherein there are so many divisions inside it like Recruitment, Generalist, training & development, ...... it goes on ..... It depends on your interest in which part of HR u want to build ur interest.....
Regards,
Kavitha Arunachalam
17th October 2007 From India, Bangalore
Seems you have lost your social life to the company,, well sit whole night, better ask ur company to arrange accomodation for u in office , :roll: :roll: :roll:
Ur too loyal to ur company.. good a true loyal employee
well lets see what the company gives u for working whole night,,, an award ,, a medal :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
17th October 2007 From India, Pune
Mr.\Miss Whoever you are ! This is very disappointing statement, given by you. Look, if you frustrated with HR, the please dont make so, others. Purshottam Saini
17th October 2007 From India, Calcutta
Once again for you, If did not get anything from HR. Then why don’t you leave HR Community. It will be your best service for HR Community Purshottam Saini
17th October 2007 From India, Calcutta
who ever u are,
people who have work they are always busy with either their work or helping colleagues by sharing their work.
for a lazy bums there is no work.
Bums always keep critisizing about the work what they do & others
17th October 2007 From India
thats the attitude of an HR....
Cant an employee tell the HR ,, that they should really work upon themselves and stop thinking high of themselves and misuse the management ,,, ... and show the humbleness in their daily work... and profession, instead of representing the companies strict policy to the employees and trouble them with their various tricks and techniques...
im here to make u all aware,, of what is HR,, and what s expected of u...
well u as HR cant even answer properly an employees queries... he he he :wink: let others try... :wink: :wink:
17th October 2007 From India, Pune
Thats a rude reply ... :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: what i tell is for ur good,,
17th October 2007 From India, Pune
can i know your name.
I don't think that my comment was rude. Being a HR I Know what kind of critical & decisive situations I need to handle. A HR has to think that her actions satisfy both the Management & the employees.
17th October 2007 From India
Sorry to say you but you are not made for HR, whatever your name is......
But for God sake Dont Make others fun..........
I am really loyal to my organization & I really love to work for it, enjoy lethargy.................
Thanks for the other HR friends to support me.
Best regards
Nidhi Singh
17th October 2007 From India, Delhi
Dear All,
I really hurt by some irresponsible statements.Any department has no work until you show interest in it .So it depends upon attitude of person to see the things.All the best.
regards
prashant
24th October 2007 From India, Mumbai
IJP stands for Internal Job Posting, It is used for people to tranfer between their own branches @ same profile or with higher profile if suitable with Qualification and Experience. Hope its clear.
Regards,
Desktopbee
8th December 2007
Dear Friends he want to ask, what is Maximum working hours per day as per indian labour law?
24th January 2008 From India
As per the Factories Act -1948, Maximum working hours per day is
8 hrs + 2 hrs Overtime = 10 hours & 48 hrs in a week.
Overtime is 2 hours/day and not exceeding 12 hours/week and 50 hours in a quarter.
Truly Yours,
Kumar.H.P
24th January 2008 From Hong Kong
Hi Maximum working hours as per Law is 8 Hrs. If company is registered under shop act then it may change because there are certain relaxation to companies registered under shop act. regards SJ
24th January 2008 From India, Patna
Hi If a company is registered under shops & establishment act, then what could be the maximum working hours???? Leena
24th January 2008 From India, Madras
Under what conditions should a company be registered under shop and factory establishments. Regards, Shweta Swarnkar
24th January 2008 From India
Hi Everyone Maximum working hours can be 9 hrs including the lunch time (If the organization is 5 days working) Regards Garima
25th January 2008 From India, Gurgaon
Dear according to shop & establishment act there is maximum nine hours in a day and 48 hours in week. Regards xpert
25th January 2008 From Pakistan, Karachi
log on to www.hrassistance.blogspot.com for working hours for workmen in Labour Laws section.
29th January 2008 From India, Madras
hi as per The Factories Act 1948 maximum working hours per day is 9 hrs (including rest intervals) and maximum 48 hours per a week regards krishna saladi +91 98481 04265
29th January 2008 From India, Madras
Dear Leena and Shwetha

There two different issues One is about ownership and the other is running an undertaking

1. Ownership

Any undertaking can be owned by an Individual(Propreitor) or Partners(Partnership) or by a Company (equity Shareholding) These owners can decide to run any business undertaking which may be manufacturing or trading or Service (like hotels/hospitals)or Retailing(shops) or BPOs.

Registration of ownership shall be under those acts and with specific authorities It is more to do with the Capital

2. Undertaking

An undertaking can be a factory or a shop or a mine or a hotel or a hospital or a BPO To run these undertakings the owner takes a licence from the prescribed authority Factories may have their Head quarters separately and they will fall under establishment

I am not sure about Mines Act. All other legislation prescribe eight hours for the employees for the workman or employees What is the exact question?Maximum hours for the establishment or for the employees?

Siva
29th January 2008 From India, Chennai
In case if any organisation need to have a shift timing of 12 hours per day (not exceeding 45 hours per week or 180 hours per month) is it allowed.
29th September 2008 From India, Bangalore
Hi all
The employee in one factory is working for 8.5 Hrs per day .
They are availing of total 3 breaks 15+30+15 Min = 1Hr
apart from thes breaks they are keeping the machine down for going for natural needs and productivity hampers by 10 to 15 min per shift .
Is it correct ? What does the factory act suggest ?
Kindly guide.
15th October 2008
Gentleman,

First we have to understand the concept of "Compressed Shift" for engaging employees on 12 hours shift working at stretch.

As per factories Act employee working more that 9 hours excluding period of rest and interval are eligible for overtime. on the othre hand if total working hours in week exceeds 48 hours even then he is eligible for overtime if he/she falls under the defination of Workmen under Factories Act.

If employees are outside the perview of Factories Act and the defination of workmen as described under relevent labour Laws he can be compensated with " compensatory Off for the extra time spend on work.

If you are thinking of introducing 12 hours working shift employee must not be worker engaged in manual or physical nature work at stretch of 12 hours. Because its practically hazardous for health of workeman to work more than 8 hours and beyond ILO resolution and norms.

But you may arrange shift of 12 hours as compressed shifts by compensating equal number of hours holidays as applicable. for example if you follow 5 day working and 2 weekly off rest days. the total hours of 12 x 4= 48 hours as working and remaining three days compensatory off. You can manage shift rotation accordingly depending on number of days you want to schedule as working days and corrospondingly allowing employees to take off days under so called "compressed shift"
This is being followed in Oil & Gas Industry specially for off-shore jobs on Rigsites and wages are paid on hourly basis. These are very hight end jobs with highly critical and specialised jobs as wells working enviornment is also tough to work for example there are shift rotation like 70:21, 35:35: kind of shift rotations.

But if you are apply this principle to the low paid Indian workforce it will be henious crime against humanity because they are not eligible for even 10% of what salary is being offered for such compressed shifts in Oil & Gas sector. This is tough working schedule and mostly europians are working on such shift rota.

For the information of those who do not distinguish how to measure what element of compensation to be considered as compensable and not compensable activities during shift shall read the following norms which has been recognised and acceptable internationally.

Compensable work chart
What time must employees be paid for? Use the chart below for a quick reference.
Time spent during working hours
Compensable:
  • Coffee and snack breaks
  • Fire drills
  • Grievance adjustment during time employee is required to be on premises
  • Meal periods if employees are not relieved of duties, if not free to leave posts or if too short to be useful (less than 1/2 hour)
  • Meal periods of 24-hour on-call employees
  • Medical attention on plant premises or if employer directs outside treatment
  • Meetings to discuss daily operations problems
  • Rest periods of 20 minutes or less
  • Retail sales product meetings sponsored by employer
  • Show-up time if employees are required to remain on premises before being sent home
  • Sleeping time if tour of duty is less than 24 hours
  • Stand-by time-remaining at post during lunch period or temporary shut down
  • Suggestion systems
  • Walking to the production area after donning required work gear
  • Travel:
o from job site to job site

o from work site to outlying job

o to customers

o from preliminary instructional meeting to work site
  • Waiting
o by homeworker to deliver or obtain work

o by truck driver standing guard while loading

o for work after reporting at a required time

o while on duty

o to take off protective work gear at the end of the day

Noncompensable:
  • Absence for illness, holiday or vacation
  • Meal periods of 1/2 hour or longer if relieved of all duties and free to leave post (but can be confined to plant premises)
  • Medical attention by employee choice of outside doctor
  • Shutdown for regular maintenance
  • Sleeping time up to eight hours if tour of duty is 24 hours or longer, if agreement to exclude sleep time exists, facilities for sleeping are furnished, at least five hours of sleep are possible during scheduled period, and interruptions to perform duties are counted as hours worked
  • Union meetings concerning solely internal union affairs
  • Voting time (unless required by state law)
  • Waiting after relieved of duty for a specified period of time that allows employee to engage in personal activity
Time spent before, after, or between regular work hours
  • Compensable:
  • Arranging or putting merchandise away
  • Bank employees waiting for audit to finish
  • Changing clothes, showering or washing if required by the nature of the work (such as job with chemicals requires bathing for worker health)
  • Changing clothes, showering or washing if required by the nature of the work (such as job with chemicals requires bathing for worker health)
  • Clearing cash register or totaling receipts
  • Discussing work problems at shift change
  • Distributing work to work benches
  • Equipment maintenance before or after shift
  • Getting steam up in plant
  • Homework under contract with employer
  • Make-ready work, preparatory work necessary for principal activity
  • On-call time if employee must stay on or near premises so as to have liberty restricted or not use time as pleases
  • Photography and fingerprinting for identification purposes
  • Physical exam required for continued service
  • Suggestions developed pursuant to assignment
  • Travel time to customer on after-hour emergency

Noncompensable:
  • Changing clothes, washing or showering for employees' convenience
  • Homework of which the employer has no knowledge
  • Meal periods while on out-of-town business
  • Medical attention by company doctor even if injury was at work
  • Obtaining equipment from lockers where lockers are not recommended or required
  • On-call time when only telephone number to be reached or other similar contact device is required so that employee can come and go as pleases
  • Opening plant and turning on lights and heat
  • Preemployment tests
  • Retail sales meeting sponsored by manufacturer if attendance voluntary
  • Reporting early to promptly relieve prior shift
  • Time between whistle and start of work
  • Trade school attendance
  • Training programs sponsored by employer if outside regular work hours, attendance is voluntary, employee does no productive work while attending and program is not directly related to employee's present job (as distinguished from teaching another job or additional skill)
  • Travel time:

o from home to work site or vice versa (even if employer provides transportation)

o from plant entrance to work site

o from time clock to work site

o to and from dressing room

o from outlying job to home
  • Unauthorized overtime if prohibited and without employer's knowledge
  • Voluntary attendance at government- sponsored safety meetings
  • Voluntary attendance at industry meeting to keep abreast of technological change
  • Waiting:

o for paycheck

o at time clock

o to start work at designated time after arriving early

o to put on first piece of required protective equipment prior to the start of the workday

Regards

Sawant
15th October 2008 From Saudi Arabia
Dear All,
As per the Factories Act , the provision is laid down under the section 51, 54, 55, & 56.
One can take the guidelines from this. Although the maximum working hours is 9 hours, but it can be spread over to 10.5 hours per day.


51. WEEKLY HOURS. - No adult workers shall be required or allowed to work in a factory for more than forty-eight hours in any week.
54. DAILY HOURS. - Subject to the provisions of section 51, no adult worker shall be required or allowed to work in a factory for more than nine hours in any day:
Provided that, subject to the previous approval of the Chief inspector, the daily maximum hours specified in this section may be exceeded in order to facilitate the change of shifts.
55. INTERVALS FOR REST. - (1) The periods of work of adult workers in a factory each day shall be so fixed that no period shall exceed five hours and that no worker shall work for more than five hours before he has had an interval for rest of at least half an hour.
(2) The State Government or, subject to the control of the State Government, the Chief Inspector, may, by written order and for the reasons specified therein, exempt any factory from the provisions of sub-section (1) so however that the total number of hours worked by a worker without an interval does not exceed six.
56. SPREADOVER. - The periods of work of an adult worker in a factory shall be so arranged that inclusive of his intervals for rest under section 55, they shall not spread over more than ten and a half hours in any day : Provided that the Chief Inspector may, for reasons to be specified in writing, increase the spread over up to twelve hours.
15th October 2008 From India, Delhi
Dear All,
the maximum hours inclusive of spread over, is 10and half,however the person may be asked to stay for more, in case of exigency or emergency. In relation to overtime, it is not the hours in day, but the weekly hours is that which matters
1st November 2008 From India, Ahmadabad
Hi

I just joined a new BPO company they have this new pilot process ...we are to work for 5 days a week and get 2weekly offs
my shift timings are from 7:30pm to 3:30am the morning with 1 hour of break timing

this bpo has its first international pilot process and is what i think is overworking everyone
we Havent recived our weekly offs in proper timings we get it after 7-8 days of working and only one weeklyoff not 2 ..we are being informed that in a month we are to get 8 offs and if the company has requirements then it will make us work and pay us an additonal days salary ..most of us dont want to work those days and dont need that days salary
we are being worked more than 48 hours in a week and not getting offs if we take the offs at our own will we stand to be marked absent and loose out on attendance pay which is like 1000 :(

I do nt whish to leave the co as its in a stream that i speaclize in and its nearby my home ..i am sure the company is in violation of rules i just dont know which

In case i am wrong please correct me , if not please advise a possible solution or where to complain regarding this

Thanks
29th March 2009 From India, Mumbai
Please clarify whether 48 hours are including/excluding the lunch breaks? I also need some proof that it is from the government of India
1st May 2009 From India, New Delhi
dear it is 48 hours excluding break.it is given in shop and est act as well as factories act .section 51 of factories act says this ,you can read section 56 also to get more idea about it. j s malik
1st May 2009 From India, Delhi
Hey Friends,,
I M Purely Accounts guy i Donna Anything about hr policies,, in ma offer letter and all ma Co HR mentioned as 9 hours per day has to work and including suterday..
please let me know if it is 8 hours what i can do to make it as 8 hours?
Regards,
Bhat.:icon1:
2nd May 2009 From India, Bangalore
You may approach to Labour Department( Factory & Labour wing) of your area as thses are the law enforcing agencies.
Regards,
R.N.Khola


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3rd May 2009 From India, Delhi
Hi all
I would like to know that If a Co.is registered under Shop and Estabilshment act
and its office timings are 8.45 am to 5.45 pm.
can it force its employees to work on Saturday as well for 3 more hours?
AND
If there are 2 employees of same designation in the same department can one of them be forced to come on saturday in the above mentioned condition and the other can relax on saturday to enjoy his weekend?
What actions can be taken in theis regards?
Can the person who is forced to come on Saturday take any benefit of his Personal Leave?(4 Saturdays a month)
What are the rules for such conditions?
please EXPLAIN HELP and GUIDE
9th August 2009 From India, Delhi
SHIFT TIMINGS:
Hi,
I am working in security company as executive HR. Please help me information regaring shift timings.Is there any specific rule regarding change shift timings. can we start shift from midnight 12?
19th December 2009 From India, Bangalore
Working Hours, Spread Over & Overtime of Adults
Weekly hours not more than 48.
Daily hours, not more than 9 hours.
Intervals for rest at least ½ hour on working for 5 hours.
Spread over not more than 10½ hours.
Overlapping shifts prohibited.
Extra wages for overtime double than normal rate of wages.
Restrictions on employment of women before 6AM and beyond 7 PM.
19th December 2009 From India, Surat
Hi,
I am working in animation industry. Please help me in information regaring woking hrs.
Is there any specific rule regarding number of working hrs in this industry?
since here they force us to work more than 60 hrs a week without any Overtime
20th December 2009 From India, Hyderabad
sir my question is the work timing in our company is 8.30am to 5.30pm and 1st 3rd and 5th Saturday if any in compulsary working days. Request you to kindly tell me whether the same is correct as per the labour law.
23rd December 2009 From India, Madras
what if company is forcing thier employees to exceeds the maximum hour and if they speak against that they are asked to leave comapny ..is thier a way to take legal action againt them in labour laws..
24th December 2009 From India, Delhi
Dear Madhukar,
Organisations which are covered under thae State Shops & Esrtablishment Act.
With Regards,
R.N.KHOLA



25th December 2009 From India, Delhi
Dear
If the employer is giving you the rest interval of one hour then it is as per law. Employer can take work on all the days from manday to saturday for 8 hours daily.
With Regards,
R.N.Khola





25th December 2009 From India, Delhi
Dear
If the company is taking extra work i.e. OT then you are to file claim before the competent Court/ Authority. You can also lodge a complaint before the competent ofiicer of your area. If the company have the power to remove you from service then you should also examine the relief available with you. Without going through the nature of work, powers of control or supervision over others, length of service, terms & conditions of employment, remedy available under the labour or civil laws, one can not give proper advice for service matters.
With Regards,
R.N.Khola





25th December 2009 From India, Delhi
Dear Manmeet N,
You are hereby advised to go trough The Motor Transport Workers Act, 1961 for both of your points relating to hours of work & Leaves.
With Regards,
R.N.Khola



30th December 2009 From India, Delhi
Dear
In general it is 9 hours per day & 48 hours in a week. You are keep in mind both the points while determining the working hours for the employees which are covered under any of the labour laws.
With Regards,
R.N.Khola

21st January 2010 From India, Delhi
Thanks Mr. R.N. Khola, my question is that if a staff nurse is working in goverment hospital and doing shift duty, is she entitled gazetted holidays and sundays off, and how much maximum work hours is the limit in a week, thanks in advance
25th January 2010 From India, Chandigarh
Dear
In my opinion employees/staff of Govt. hospitals are governed by the State Civil Service Rules & therefore you are to examine those service Rules for your query.
With Regards,
R.N.Khola
QUOTE=bnslbk;1018638]Thanks Mr. R.N. Khola, my question is that if a staff nurse is working in goverment hospital and doing shift duty, is she entitled gazetted holidays and sundays off, and how much maximum work hours is the limit in a week, thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
25th January 2010 From India, Delhi
Dear all,
Acc. to Factories Act 1948,
1. Weekly hours. NOT more than forty-eight hours in any week. but in a day no of hrs working can be max upto 9.
so in a factory instead of normal duty hrs of 8 we can have 9 hrs duty subjected to max working hrs in a week upto 48hrs.
2. for working of more than these hrs, written permission should be there from labour inspector or by standing orders, and for that double rate of pay should be given.
3.however, max no of hrs in a week incl. OT shall not exceed 60. AND
total OT hrs cannot exeed 50 in a quarter ( means period of three months)
i hope this will help you all
thanks & regds
Manish Gupta
Admin & Hr mgr

2.
25th January 2010 From India, Mumbai
can a company forcefully impose on employee to work beyond 9 hrs. shift... if no under what section can we fight against them...
5th February 2010 From India, Delhi

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