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I worked for company A for 10 long years, due to financial issues the company started layoffs - I started looking out for jobs and got myself a good one but with immediate joining. The HR of company A did not agree to relieve me and held by reliving / experience letter. (Though I received the proper documents 3-4 months later with help of my senior, who spoke to HR and got the documents released for me).
I joined company B - the mistake that I commit is, I submitted relieving/experience letter in the company A letter head - signed by self in HR's name. I know this is not at all ethical, but I wanted the job badly and I feared if I tell company B that HR has put my papers on HOLD they may doubt me and my offer will be revoked.
After working for one month in company B, the BGC failed and I was asked to leave. After a gap of 2 months I found job in company C and currently working there, since 2 years. they never asked my about gap nor did i mention
My question is:
1. In new job search/interview, should I mention about this one month old job to prospective employer
2. In case I mention, should I tell him the actual reason for termination/end of service.
3. If I don't tell the prospective employer, will they find out about employment at company B from UAN portal or somewhere else.
31st May 2019 From India, Mumbai
Hi,
As you yourself agreed, what you did is not ethical and amounts to forgery. You better be at Company C for some more time and in future when you look for job don't mention about Company B itself. Also don't show it in your Resume.
When you go to new employer you can continue with same UAN of Company C.
Always be ethical in terms of employment and in personal life. Always honesty is the best Policy !
31st May 2019 From India, Madras
Dear Friend,
If your company A.B,C deducted your PF earlier then your service history through PF portal is accessible to the future company so avoid hiding, let keep honesty with you definitely it worth for you in your future.
If we hide something then the same thing does not allow us to sleep all night.
31st May 2019 From India, Mumbai
@V.M.Lakshminarayanan sir
1. If I don't mention company B to next employer - he may get to know about it from UAN
2. If I mention and tell the reason/cause of exit - I stand no chance of employment
31st May 2019 From India, Mumbai
Hi,
In what way you got relieved from company B? You have not mentioned about it.
If they have relieved you properly with relieving order then no harm in showing. You may present some fitting reason.
31st May 2019 From India, Madras
@V.M.Lakshminarayanan sir,
After BGC failure, I was called and asked to leave as per HR policy.
They gave me a relieving letter stating that my service with the company is terminated immediately because of failed BGC due to incorrect information provided by me, and that my dues will be cleared shortly.
They even approved my UAN linkage when I requested them after joining company C.
31st May 2019 From India, Mumbai
Hi,
Then better to share with your new employer if query raised by them.
31st May 2019 From India, Madras
Hi,
you also worked in HR Department, you might know about HR background verification process.
you must be honest to that company & must share what cause of relieving.
P.Packiaraj
1st June 2019 From India, Bangalore
1. Brief about Gratuity Benefit
As per guidelines of The Payment of Gratuity Act 1972 (Amended) gratuity is a statutory obligation on the shoulders of the employer to make the payment of Gratuity within 30 days to his employees as soon as it becomes payable.(Refer Sub Section (2) of Section 7 to the Act).
2. Applicability
Compliance of this act is applicable to all organizations such as a factory, mine, oilfield, port, railways, plantation, shops, establishments or Educational institution having 10 or more employees on any day in the preceding 12.
3. Determination of Gratuity Amount
The amount of Gratuity payable to an employee on his exit from service, according to “The Payment of Gratuity (Amendment) Act 2018 ”, in force at present, is:-
(Wages of the employee at the time of exit) x (15/26) x (Number of Years of Service at the time of exit)
This is subject to a ceiling limit of 20,00,000/- effective from 29.03.2018. The Gratuity Ceiling Limit can be raised by the employer to give additional benefits to his employees.
4. Conditions for payment of Gratuity
Gratuity is payable to an employee on exit from service after he has rendered continuous service for not less than five years:
(a) On his superannuation
(b) On his resignation
(c) On his death or disablement due to injury or disease.
In the case of (c) vesting condition of 5 years does not apply.
5. Impact of Increasing Wages and Length of Employment of Future payments of Gratuity
Gratuity Benefits depends upon last drawn monthly wages and is linked to the length of service, normally it goes on increasing from the time when the employee joins service and the time of his exit from service due to the annual increase in salary and increasing service period.
For Example. If Mr. A at Age 48, joins the Company where retirement Age is 60 yrs. with a Basic Pay of Rs. 2,60,000/- per month and there is a change in wages@10% annually, then Gratuity Payments for next 5 years and on *retirement will be:-
On Completion of 1 Yr - (15/26)* 2,86,000*1 = 1,50,000/-
On Completion of 2 Yrs - (15/26)*3,14,600*2 = 3,63,000/-
On Completion of 3 Yrs - (15/26)*3,46,060*3 = 5,98,950/-
On Completion of 4 Yrs - (15/26)*3,80,670*4 = 8,78,460/-
On Completion of 5 Yrs - (15/26)*4,18,730*5 = 12,00,788/-
On Completion of 12 Yrs - (15/26)*8,15,991*12 = 56,49,198/-*
6. Provisions for Employer under the Payment of Gratuity Act 1972 (Amended)
Section 7 of the Act has kept the obligation for payment of gratuity act on the shoulders of the employer, few provisions of this section act are listed below:-
1. As soon as Gratuity becomes payable, it employers responsibility to determine the amount of gratuity and inform it to employee in writing (Refer subsection 2 of Section 7 of the Act).
2. The employer shall arrange to pay the amount of gratuity within 30 days from the date when it becomes mandatory. (Refer Sub-section 3 of Section 7 of the Act).
3. If the amount of gratuity is not paid within 30 days then the amount of gratuity and simple interest will be paid by the employer to the employee for the duration when the payment is not made to the employee. (Refer Sub-section 4 of Section 7 of the Act).
7. Options for Gratuity Liability Management
From point 5 & 6, it is clear that the Gratuity Liability increase exponentially with the increase in wages of employee and service period of employee. Also, it is employers responsibility to pay the gratuity to the employee in any case. Companies have generally 2 options for discharging the Gratuity Liability: -
1. Pay as go options – In this option, the employer makes provision of Gratuity Liability by taking an Actuarial Valuation Report/ Certificate from An Actuarial Service provider in Compliance of AS 15 (Revised 2005) in their Financial Statement and whenever an employee leaves the organization, the employer pays him gratuity from his own resources.
2. Funding Option – In this option, the Employer creates an irrevocable Gratuity Trust and gets the approval from Income Tax Department and contribute funds into the Gratuity Trust annually and get tax benefits section 36 (1) (v) of the income tax act, 1961 and as and when an employee leaves the organization, gratuity amount paid by the gratuity trust.
8. Why Funding Option is preferred by organizations?
Companies make provision of Gratuity liability in the balance on annually on an accrual basis based on actuarial report but it is not allowed as deduction whilst computing net Income of Income Tax (Refer Section 47A (7) of Income Tax Act 1961), So companies prefer to create Gratuity Trust. To avail the Tax Benefit under benefits section 36 (1) (v) of the income tax act, 1961 for Initial and Annual Ordinary Contribution, employer prefer Funding Option.
There are 2 major categories of Gratuity Trust, which is based on the Investment Management of the Contribution received from the organization.
(a) Self Managed Trust - In this category of Gratuity Trust, Trustee manages the investment of contribution received from the employer in the manner prescribed by the Government of India vide Rules 101 & 67 of Income Tax Rules, 1962 and earn tax-free Interest. Contribution received from the employer and interest earned from the Investment together is used to discharge the gratuity liability of employees of the organization.
(b) Insurer Managed Trust - In this category of Gratuity Trust, Trustee approach LIC or other Insurer for management the investment of contribution received from the employer. LIC or other Insurer company receive the contribution from the employer Investment is done by the LIC or other Insurer company. Few Benefits of LIC or other Insurer Managed Gratuity Trust is as under:-
(i) The job of investment and interest is paid by the LIC or other Insurer company on the accumulated funds.
(ii) In case of death while in service, the service period is counted while calculating the gratuity as if the person has served the company up to his Normal Retirement Date. It is a special feature of LIC Managed Gratuity Fund.
(iii) LIC or other Insurer the company maintains the fund under the name of the trust.
(iv) Investment of funds is taken care by LIC or other Insurer company & Interest is declared as per the performance of Total Fund and credited to the individual trust fund.
(v) At the time of exit of employee, trustee send discharge and advice LIC or other Insurer company to make payment of Gratuity as per Scheme to the Trust.
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1st June 2019 From India, Delhi
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