Umakanthan53
Labour Law & Hr Consultant
Mahr
Head - Human Resources
Manojkamble
Sr. Hr Executive
+3 Others

Thread Started by #Indu@HR

We are working on 1st and 3rd Saturdays only ,that too for Half day. If any one is absent on Saturday, will it be considered as half day leave or full day leave
Waiting for your response.
30th June 2018 From India, Hyderabad
Dear Indu,
It depends completely on your organisations decision, but ideally if working hours for Saturday is 4 hours and someone absent for the day then it will be considered as full day absent only.
30th June 2018
Dear Indu,
It depends. Why your management have specifically chosen the first and the third Saturdays only as working days that too half a day each? Whether all the employees or a skeleton staff alone are required to work? Whether these two half working days are meant for any interaction between the field/branch staff and the head office? Whether this practice is in vogue under any collective bargaining agreement with the employees? Only the answers to such and other of questions regarding the practical and factual issues in your organization can give an appropriate response to the query raised in the thread. My personal view would be to treat any leave taken on such a half working day as a whole day's leave to ensure the achievement of the purpose of this arrangement.
30th June 2018 From India, Salem
I worked in an organisation which observed Saturday as only 1/2 day, but leave on the day meant full day leave i.e one day.
30th June 2018 From India, Pune
Even if the working hours are decided as 4 hours for an day one should not confuse it with half day working. Working hours are 4 hours means operations for the day will be active for 4 hours as decided by your management but if any one decides to take a leave it will not be compared to working hours it will be benchmarked absence for working hours in an org & will lead to full day leave.
30th June 2018 From India, Pune
Hi
It depends the Leave Policy of your Company. In general half day working is treated as full day working and any leave taken or absence from duty is treated as full day leave i.e. one day.
Regards
P.S.Lakshmanan
S.G.Management Services
(PAN INDIA Labour Law Compliance,
P.F.ESI, P Tax, Benefit Management &
POSH COMPLIANCE
1st July 2018 From India, Kolkata
What your policy speaks over the matter or Standing order?
Whether you receive 1/2 pay or full pay for satyrday working?
Whether you count saturday working is 1/2 or full while count leave or gratuity?
Any absent on saturday to be considered as one day, if is getting full pay for that day.
1st July 2018 From India, Mumbai
Dear Colleague,
Treating one day's leave for absence of half day on Saturday, has sound logic.
Firstly, for half day working salary is paid for full day and secondly to discourage employees from taking leave on half day working on Saturdays.
Regards,
Vinayak Nagarkar
HR- Consultant
2nd July 2018 From India, Mumbai
Dear Colleague,
Treating full day's leave for half day's absence of half day working on Saturdays has sound logic.
First, for working half day on Saturdays, full salary is paid. Second, to discourage employees to take advantage of availing leave on Saturdays although it is made half day working .
Regards,
Vinayak Nagarkar
HR- Consultant
2nd July 2018 From India, Mumbai
Hi Indu,
I second Umakandan in his views. Also ideally it will be considered as full day leave. Though you work reduced hours on the mentioned Saturdays, those days are considered as one business day ethically. Still you can go ahead and speak with your management and try going extra mile, by considering leaves on Saturday as half a day. Provided you should have a good Leave Management tool. Good luck!
5th July 2018 From India, Bangalore
Hello,
This should be like this :
If organisation provide salary for full day as per (Mon- Fri) than this will be count as full day absent,or else for half day.
Thanks
9th July 2018 From India, Delhi
Hi INDU
It depends the Leave Policy of your ORGANIZATION. In general half day working is treated as full day working and any leave taken or absence from duty is treated as full day leave i.e. Absence one day.
Regards
14th July 2018 From India, Sirhind
As your organisation pay full day salary for half day work on Saturday obviously Adsense for Saturday will be treated as full day .If your organisation pay half day salary for half day working on Saturday then leave on Saturday must be treated half day
15th July 2018 From India, Varanasi
In my opinion, it should be considered as full day as the working hours for those 2 days are limited to half day. If some one comes for attending duty is considered as full day presence then not attending duty should be considered as full day absence.
However it depends on the organization and logic differs. I have worked in such organization, and rules though clarified as full day leave, still it was a practice of taking half day leave by all including top officials.
16th July 2018 From India, Barhiya
Whatever be the policy of the organisation, the base for deciding whether a leave on a half day working should be considered as full day leave or half day leave is nothing but how you consider the day for payment of salary.Obviously, if for that half day full day salary is paid nothing will prevent you to mark absent for full day or leave for full day if any one remains leave on that half day.
18th July 2018 From India, Kannur
Hello Indu,
All the fraternity members have given the correct answer to your query, but I see total logic in Madhu's post. Let me explain.
Your organization is working for half-a-day on 1st & 3rd Saturday of the month. Now, if there is somebody who is remaining absent on either of these days, then the answer to whether this absence should be considered as full-day / half-day absence depends upon the type of employment this employee has with the organization. What kind of employee is he? Is he paid for hourly, daily or monthly basis ?
#If hourly basis employees remain absent on 1st & 3rd Saturdays, then obviously they'll lose salary (wages) for half a day (or for those many number of hours for which they were supposed to work on Saturday).
#For employees on daily wages, you need to check what they get (rather what your organization pays) for working on these saturday's. Accordingly, they stand to loses the salary for remaining absent of those Satudays.
#However, those on monthly basis (irrespective of whether it's a half-day working / full-day working) gets paid for the full month. So, any absence on Saturday's should be considered as "full-day" absent.
Cheers,
A.B.
31st July 2018 From India, Mumbai
Dear Ms Indu
I completely agree with Ms Madhu and AB. When you are paying Fullday salary for these Half day working, its completely logical to deduct full day's Leave for not coming for these half days.
Regards
Kapil Sharma
Sr Manager HR
1st August 2018 From India, Pune
My suggestion here is if we get full day salary for these half working days then taking leave without approval is termed as Absent so salary should be deducted as for whole one day but not in case of approved leave.
4th August 2018 From India
Yes
The answer is itself in your question only. Company allowed all employees a half day of satur day..
The so called person availed a half of on that particular day..
So it is obviously half day leave only pls.
14th August 2018 From India, Nellore
If he is eligible authorised leave ask him to apply later....unauthorized absence is a bad symptom of performance of any employee...if only exception is sudden medical cause.
Ask him to apply full day....then verify your factory norms...usually prefer condusive approach of making it as half day leave...it will give a lot of grateful ness from employee side and u can derive extra performance from that employee.it is another hr technic.
16th August 2018 From India, Nellore
Every day the employees work for 6 to 8 hours. Some organisation allow 1st and 3rd Saterdays as HALF DAY i.e. they work only for 4 hours and the organisation give full pay on those days also. So if any one applies for leave (even for 1/2 days) it shall be treated as full day CL. And any employee absents (without leave) on any working day it will be absent on that day no pay for absent day will be given.
18th August 2018 From India, Tadepallegudem
Dear Indu
If Saturday is your working day (half day as policy), then presence/ attendance on Saturday will be considered as present for full day and similarly, absence on Saturday will be considered as absent for a full day.
Regards & Thanks,
Kabita.
4th September 2018 From India
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