Whether it is CTC gross ( Including employer contribution to esic ,pf ) or ctc gross ( excluding employer contribution to esic ,pf ) Regards Narendra ch
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ESI is calculated on monthly gross salary paid & not on CTC.
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1. Sir, contribution under provisions of ESI Act, 1948 is calculated neither on "CTC gross", nor on "gross salary".
2. The contribution is payable on "wages" as defined under section 2(22) of above Act. Since the words like "CTC gross" and "gross salary" are no where defined in above Act, hence such like words are neither relevant nor applicable in deciding any matter so far as payment of contribution under above Act is concerned. Whatsoever is included or excluded in the meaning of term "wages" in above sub-section of the Act is relevant.
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2. The contribution is payable on "wages" as defined under section 2(22) of above Act. Since the words like "CTC gross" and "gross salary" are no where defined in above Act, hence such like words are neither relevant nor applicable in deciding any matter so far as payment of contribution under above Act is concerned. Whatsoever is included or excluded in the meaning of term "wages" in above sub-section of the Act is relevant.
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(Fact Checked)-The user reply is correct, providing accurate information on the calculation of contributions under the ESI Act, 1948 based on the definition of "wages" as per section 2(22) of the Act. (1 Acknowledge point)
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The concept of 'CTC' is unknown to ESI Act and other labour laws.As Mr.Harsh Kumar said, please stick to the definition of wages under sec.2(22) of ESI Act as you can not omit from or include any item in the four corners of the definition.
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(Fact Checked)-The user's reply is [B]correct[/B] as per the definition of wages under Section 2(22) of the ESI Act. No amendments are needed. (1 Acknowledge point)
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Sir my Question , is for applicability we need to consider components of CTC ( In accordance with sec.2(22) of ESI Act ) and for Calaculation of contribution we need to consider wages earned ( In accordance with sec.2(22) of ESI Act )
and employer contribution towards pf and esi shall be excluded ?
please correct if my view is wrong
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Narendra ch
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and employer contribution towards pf and esi shall be excluded ?
please correct if my view is wrong
Regards
Narendra ch
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(Fact Check Failed/Partial)-The user's reply is partially correct. While the user correctly mentions considering wages earned for the calculation of contributions under the ESI Act, they should include both employee and employer contributions towards PF and ESI for applicability and calculation. Thank you for your input.
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For the purpose of applicability of ESI Act, the wages as per Sec.2(22) of the ESI Act is the wages earned by an employee every month + any payment made at intervals of two months but excludes the following;
1)Any contribution paid by the employer towards PF and ESI;
2)Any travelling allowance and value of travelling concession;
3)Any amount paid to meet any expenses incurred by him by nature of his employment;
4) Gratuity payable on discharge
5) Overtime wages.
Trust this will clarify your doubt.
B.Saikumar
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1)Any contribution paid by the employer towards PF and ESI;
2)Any travelling allowance and value of travelling concession;
3)Any amount paid to meet any expenses incurred by him by nature of his employment;
4) Gratuity payable on discharge
5) Overtime wages.
Trust this will clarify your doubt.
B.Saikumar
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(Fact Checked)-[B]Response[/B]: The user reply is correct regarding the exclusion of employer contributions to PF and ESI from the definition of wages under the ESI Act. (1 Acknowledge point)
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Dear Narendra,
In a simple language whatever salary reflects in your monthly payroll is upto Rs.21,000/- will qualify for deduction of ESI Contribution. (Hope you are not showing employer's contribution to ESI & PF in the monthly payroll).
Therefore do not mixup gross salary or CTC for computation of ESI PF.
ESI raised coverage ceiling to Rs.21,000/- w.e.f. 01.01.2017 and you are raising query just after 1 year why so?
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Suresh
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In a simple language whatever salary reflects in your monthly payroll is upto Rs.21,000/- will qualify for deduction of ESI Contribution. (Hope you are not showing employer's contribution to ESI & PF in the monthly payroll).
Therefore do not mixup gross salary or CTC for computation of ESI PF.
ESI raised coverage ceiling to Rs.21,000/- w.e.f. 01.01.2017 and you are raising query just after 1 year why so?
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Suresh
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I agree with the views of 'Saiconsult', except overtime wages. Overtime wages are also included in wages for contribution, however, overtime wages is not counted in ceiling of 21000/-. Otherwords, including overtime wages, one IP/IW may cross Rs21000/- and ESI contribution will be counted the whole wages including overtime wages.
Rest all suggestions are as per law.
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Rest all suggestions are as per law.
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(Fact Checked)-The user reply is correct, with accurate information regarding the inclusion of overtime wages in ESI contribution calculations. (1 Acknowledge point)
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Yes you are right Bmpanigrahi. I did not notice that Narendra asked the query in connection with contribution.I thought the query is about applicability.I went through the query now to get it clarified. Yes, OT wages are included for the purpose of contribution but not for applicability.My earlier post stands corrected to this extent.
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(Fact Check Failed/Partial)-The reply is incorrect. OT wages are not included in the calculation of employer contributions to ESIC and PF but are included in CTC gross for contribution purposes.
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(Fact Check Failed/Partial)-The user reply is incorrect. ESI is calculated on the gross salary, including all components like basic pay, dearness allowance, incentives, and other fixed monthly payments, but not on CTC. Employer's contribution to ESI is also included in the calculation.