Hello,
In 2008, I had worked in one company for less than 6 months (only two days less than 6 months). I used to have EPF account. My account was in EPF office of Delhi even though I am from West Bengal. When I left the company and sent forms to withdraw the EPF amount, I got a reply from EPF that since my tenure is of less than six months, I am not entitled to get the amount.
I do not remember what exactly was written because I do not have that letter from EPF office with me anymore. But this was more or less the gist of the letter. I did not pursue the matter anymore as the amount was less and I thought it would be a big hassle. Next, I worked for a company where there was no PF provision. I have now joined another company where they are going to start PF from this month. They have asked me to fill up Form 2 and Form 11. I have a few questions:
a) I have got the EPF account no. of my previous company. When I tried to check the status in the EPF portal, it said "Invalid Input / Member name mismatch against this account no."
I believe that the EPF account has been deactivated. So can I ask my employer to exempt me from EPF as my basic is above Rs. 6500?
b) Other than the online portal, how can I confirm about my previous EPF account?
c) If I find that the account exists and it can be activated, then is it mandatory for me to transfer the amount to the new EPF account of my current employer?
If I do so and if my job gets terminated before 6 months i.e. before next year May, then what will happen?
From India, Kolkata
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In 2008, I had worked in one company for less than 6 months (only two days less than 6 months). I used to have EPF account. My account was in EPF office of Delhi even though I am from West Bengal. When I left the company and sent forms to withdraw the EPF amount, I got a reply from EPF that since my tenure is of less than six months, I am not entitled to get the amount.
I do not remember what exactly was written because I do not have that letter from EPF office with me anymore. But this was more or less the gist of the letter. I did not pursue the matter anymore as the amount was less and I thought it would be a big hassle. Next, I worked for a company where there was no PF provision. I have now joined another company where they are going to start PF from this month. They have asked me to fill up Form 2 and Form 11. I have a few questions:
a) I have got the EPF account no. of my previous company. When I tried to check the status in the EPF portal, it said "Invalid Input / Member name mismatch against this account no."
I believe that the EPF account has been deactivated. So can I ask my employer to exempt me from EPF as my basic is above Rs. 6500?
b) Other than the online portal, how can I confirm about my previous EPF account?
c) If I find that the account exists and it can be activated, then is it mandatory for me to transfer the amount to the new EPF account of my current employer?
If I do so and if my job gets terminated before 6 months i.e. before next year May, then what will happen?
From India, Kolkata
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Please help me... I need the suggestion soon :( I have not replied to my employer till now about the EPF decision.
From India, Kolkata
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Hi,
First, confirm your previous company's PF number. You are only eligible for EPF amount, so fill only PF Form 19 and Form 10C. If you do not want to withdraw your money, apply for PF in your current company. Once your name is registered for PF in this company, fill out Form 13, also known as the Transfer form. Your PF amount will then be transferred to your new EPF number.
Your PF amount will be transferred accordingly.
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28First, confirm your previous company's PF number. You are only eligible for EPF amount, so fill only PF Form 19 and Form 10C. If you do not want to withdraw your money, apply for PF in your current company. Once your name is registered for PF in this company, fill out Form 13, also known as the Transfer form. Your PF amount will then be transferred to your new EPF number.
Your PF amount will be transferred accordingly.
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Dear Friend,
First of all, I would like to mention that only one form will be applicable in a particular case at a time. It may be Form-2 (if PF membership is applicable) or Form-11 (if exempt from PF). Some organizations keep both forms duly filled and signed by the member, but they should be maintained as per the Act.
In my opinion, the answers to your query may be as follows:
A) As the last transaction in your last EPF account was in 2008 and now it is 2013. So, the accounts that are inactive for more than 3 years are frozen by the department. That's why it is showing "Invalid Input / Member name mismatch." However, it also means that the account is still in existence. But, that doesn't matter with your current membership with EPF. So, if your employer is offering you the membership, then don't deny it.
B) You can file an RTI in the concerned EPF Office and ask for the details of your EPF account.
C) After getting that account activated, it is recommended to transfer the balance of that account to the new EPF account, and as per the act, it is mandatory.
Finally, I didn't understand why you are assuming that you will be terminated from there before 6 months...!!
Always move forward with a positive note.
Hope this will help you.
From India, Delhi
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First of all, I would like to mention that only one form will be applicable in a particular case at a time. It may be Form-2 (if PF membership is applicable) or Form-11 (if exempt from PF). Some organizations keep both forms duly filled and signed by the member, but they should be maintained as per the Act.
In my opinion, the answers to your query may be as follows:
A) As the last transaction in your last EPF account was in 2008 and now it is 2013. So, the accounts that are inactive for more than 3 years are frozen by the department. That's why it is showing "Invalid Input / Member name mismatch." However, it also means that the account is still in existence. But, that doesn't matter with your current membership with EPF. So, if your employer is offering you the membership, then don't deny it.
B) You can file an RTI in the concerned EPF Office and ask for the details of your EPF account.
C) After getting that account activated, it is recommended to transfer the balance of that account to the new EPF account, and as per the act, it is mandatory.
Finally, I didn't understand why you are assuming that you will be terminated from there before 6 months...!!
Always move forward with a positive note.
Hope this will help you.
From India, Delhi
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Thanks, Miss Priya and Mr. Bhuwan!
Mr. Bhuwan, I am under the payroll of one company where they are providing me with the provision of PF. However, I work in an MNC which is their client. If the project in the MNC ends, my parent company also does not provide any bench period. I will be released from the parent company within one month of my release in the MNC.
I am not sure how long the project in the MNC will continue, so I am a bit apprehensive about the deduction of an amount from my salary for PF.
From India, Kolkata
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Mr. Bhuwan, I am under the payroll of one company where they are providing me with the provision of PF. However, I work in an MNC which is their client. If the project in the MNC ends, my parent company also does not provide any bench period. I will be released from the parent company within one month of my release in the MNC.
I am not sure how long the project in the MNC will continue, so I am a bit apprehensive about the deduction of an amount from my salary for PF.
From India, Kolkata
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Dear Friend,
As you are working under "Contractor - Principal Employer Hierarchy," it is recommended to always take care of the terms of your appointment. The contractor always keeps the condition regarding the termination of the appointment on the expiry of the contract. Since you are in a good position, be cautious regarding these types of conditions and try to avoid them at the time of appointment.
Best of luck.
From India, Delhi
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As you are working under "Contractor - Principal Employer Hierarchy," it is recommended to always take care of the terms of your appointment. The contractor always keeps the condition regarding the termination of the appointment on the expiry of the contract. Since you are in a good position, be cautious regarding these types of conditions and try to avoid them at the time of appointment.
Best of luck.
From India, Delhi
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