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Thread Started by #avantika1909

For a fresher or 1-2 year experienced HRD candidate whats a better opportunity?
A recruiter or an HR executive role in big Corporates with huge manpower, or,
As an HR Manager in small start-up companies?
Please share your opinion with reason.
8th March 2013 From India, Calcutta
Dear Ms. Avantika1909,

Though experienced abou 1-2 years or with NO experience, it's always the learnings that takes to the apex. You may not clearly imply that joining in a bigger firm you are sure to learn things that needs to be instigated.

Can you yourself justify being a Manger -HR for a small firm that delivers huge clientele or presuppose that you end up an executive with an outsized company?

No matter whatever you get to do for educating & stepping forward choose that. As per the proposing Human Resources areas there are few things which you need to concentrate -

- Recruitments & Selections

- Compensation

- Payroll

- File Keeping - Personal files, confidentialrecords

- Labour laws, disciplinary procedures, labour compliance

- New staff orientation, Employee Handbook, Safety & Health of employees, Career planning

- Employee Communication - Newsletters, Recognition programs, Performance appraisal.

- Employee exit, Retirement Programs and Employee Assisting programs and many more....

You need to self- evaluate for the benefit of knowledge in mapping an entire department exactly where consistency proves reliability -- then you are SUCCESSFUL. By this time I hope you know what to do.
8th March 2013 From India, Visakhapatnam
Dear Sharmila Thanks for your valuable advice!! I still have a question- dont you think that some proper guidance is required from experienced Manager?? Thanks Avantika
8th March 2013 From India, Calcutta
Small companies, especially start-ups, have big challenges since one has to define & introduce HR policies & processes. Simultaneously, you have to launch & implement the same. This requires not only convincing the management, but also making the employees appreciate the need for these processes. This needs a creative urge, presentation & communication skills, convincing power, ability to accept non-sense, a flexible approach to redefine/ modify processes (to suit the dynamics of your company environment) and tremendous patience at all times. In case you have these attributes as a part of your personality, you can fit well as a one-person HR in a small company. And once you succeed, despite all odds, you develop the confidence to be able to steer HR in any environment. Thereafter you can graduate into mid size/ large companies.
All depends on your personality & attitude. So do some introspection & decide. You will be successful if you follow the voice from within.
8th March 2013 From India, Delhi
Hai avantika,
friends sharmila, bhatia have given best threads, one have told whole responsibility in organisation and another told the real experience in hr.
The positive attitude people only get success in the hr profession. One should use common sense in their day to day work. What is common sense it is decided by the situation. Not only the hr person should bear with the non sense first and should be balanced in all circumstances.
Knowledge is the power and expression is gift to mankind. Not only hr person, in private sector all the responsible persons should use knowledge and expressions in very preciously to lead the position.
8th March 2013 From India, Visakhapatnam
Look at the job profile and opportunities for learning but not at the size of the company and your inclination to learn, grow and lead shall be the criteria in choosing the company.To extract a kilogram of gold, you need to mine a tonne of soil.Are you prepared for it?That's how you add value to your talent and skills and will be in a position to trade your skills to get what you want in your career.All the best.
B.Saikumar
Mumbai
9th March 2013 From India, Mumbai
Dear Avantika,

Choosing each one got it's own characteristics. From my experience I can advocate taking up the HR Manager in a start up company. The reason being, it depends on how you are going to take it. If you got the zeal and urge in you to learn things in a hard way which would add to your profile then it's most suited. Because either you would have half knowledge or no knowledge at all of your portfolio and thus you are compelled to know each and everything step by step,in the process you might commit errors and may miss some, never mind them, but it will definitely help you to master things and face any challenges at any level. Once you acquire basic knowledge on all HR related areas, especially legal provisions and procedures you crossed half way there and if you would master IR/Human Relations & man-management you'll be near to perfection. Such opportunities seldom you get in big organisation where you'll be allocated a small portion of HR from time to time . You should be lucky to work in other potions and by the time, by rotation, if you have to cover other areas you'll be superannuated only to become a Consultant after retirement.

On the other hand a Recruiter/HR Executive will be able to cover only that potion of the assignment during such period(s). And unless and until you are rotated to other areas you will not be able to learn nuances of HR especially legal issues.

It's like as the saying goes, "it's all whether you like to be head of a cat or just a tail of a tiger." You might be carried away by branding the tail as "tiger's tail" but what it matter is the "head" which is the life. Choice is yours.

kumar.s.
9th March 2013 From India, Bangalore
Thanks everyone for advice.!!
But I am feeling that there is lack of proper guidance as in my company only manager is me and rest other are technical geeks.
My boss/ director is also fresher in management side. How can that be overcome.
regards
Avantika
11th March 2013 From India, Calcutta
MOREOVER in a small company (with 10-15 employees) people have easy access to bosses for their issues and there is lot of interference and micro-management. I am facing the issue of responsibilty without authority as well :(
11th March 2013 From India, Calcutta
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Hay Avantka,
The entire world is before you. It's all by yourself. You should be proactive and push forward. The interferences shouldn't be looked at as such because when the Boss is interfering it means he/she shares your responsibilities, errors & misses. It's upto you to make impediments into achievements. For that you should be thorough in all legal provisions & procedures and keep posting all such references to the Boss as he should be know of these things. If he takes a decision which is against the legal provisions it's upto him to face the consequences. You should be careful enough to place on record what are all the penalties for noncompliances. On the other hand you will have the satisfaction of "I did what is just". Its your fortune that there exists none to compare your performances & misses & precedents. So all the best.
kumar.s.
11th March 2013 From India, Bangalore
Thanks Kumar Can you please suggest me some references for knowing and understanding legal provisions and procedures for an IT company in Bangalore? Thanks Avantika
11th March 2013 From India, Calcutta
ok avanttika,
you are feeling that u have responsibility with out authority it is better if u have the authority it is more than the responsibility. First u go through the practices and procedures prevailed in the company or nearby company and understand the situation. Politeness and tactfulness only lead the situation.
12th March 2013 From India, Visakhapatnam
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Dear friend(s),

(Pl.come closer, lend your ears, I'll tell you a secret) (In hush hush voice Uss.) Probably Avantika yet to realise the burden of having "more authority". Having responsibility & authority is just like having a big "hunch on your back" Unless & until you were to have this you would never ever enjoy it? (others please don't hear this secret). You are just a fresher trying to learn. It's just like learning how to swim that too in a sea/ocean. A swimming learner, without a burden of saving others being drowned is a blessing so that the learner can swim ashore safely, otherwise if try to save others, the learner alongwith others get drowned. It's just like that at present. Out of fresh enthusiasm if you would long for authority it may lead to avoidable problems. Therefore "safe start" mode is better for you to start with. Who knows you will be given more and more authority or may come to you automatically, when you gradually show your prowess by sheer hard work and acumen. (At that time you will definitely realise the real burden of having more authority. Learn, learn more, exhibit most. That's it.

kumar.s.
12th March 2013 From India, Bangalore
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