Skhadir
Strategic Business Management Includes Revenue
Vasanth.yen
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what are the qualities must have human resource management?
I'm pursuing MBA in a reputed college and my specialization is HR.So i want to become a good HR in a company.So please give me valuable suggestions.
11th November 2012 From India, Puttur
Dear Mr. Raghavaraj,
Did you ever questioned yourself "what makes me the best HR?" If you did, i am sure you might have gathered relevant information. If not, kindly go through my queries for you.
At the outset, have you studied the OBJECTIVES and ROLES & RESPONSIBILITIES of HRD in any organisation?
Do you have brief idea about the SKILLS & KNOWLEDGE required to play the role of a HR MANAGER?
Do you know the key difference between the MANAGER & LEADER?
Did you ever study HUMAN(EMPLOYEE) PSYCHOLOGY?
In order to become a GOOD HR, you need to travel a long journey to gain REAL TIME EXPERIENCE and KNOWLEDGE. There is huge difference between ACADEMICS and REAL TIME EXPERIENCE/PRACTICAL LIFE. If you search this website, you will find relevant information about the QUALITIES OF HR MANAGER and more.
Good Luck.
With profound regards
12th November 2012 From India, Chennai
A good HR manager should possess the below listed qualities –

1. Strategic Acumen – An HR manager must possess sharp strategic acumen to devise an organizational road-map.

2. Organizational Skill – An HR manager should exhibit sound organization skills to coordinate regular training and development programs, implement business practices and deploy HR systems, technologies and modules.

3. Creativity – An HR manager should be creative which increase the competency.

4. Communication Skills – An HR manager is often the key liaison between top management and the employees and extended workforce of an organization.

5. Intuition – Intuition is the capacity of knowing without the use of rational processes; An HR manager should possess this quality.

6. Knowledge – A thorough knowledge base is essential for HR manager.

7. Commitment – An HR manager should be committed to the success of the project and of all team members.

8. Being Human – Employees like managers who are human and who don’t take advantage of their authority.

9. Negotiation Expertise – An HR manager has to communicate with external contractors and staffing agencies to source employee needs and other specialized requirements.

10. Motivational – This quality is required for keeping employees happy and satisfactory. The HR manager should be well versed with her employee’s interests, needs, hopes, desires and values.

11. Mentorship Role – An HR manager should support newly hired employees, empathize with the needs of experienced employees and generally serve as a resource for other staff members of an organization.
12th November 2012 From Bangladesh
Dear Asif,
We are living a very competitive world and industry demands more skills than being a normal personality. You have missed out those points that differentiates a Manager from a LEADER. If professionals tend to remain just as a Manager, then, i am sure some of the skills you had mentioned will not be effectively implemented.
Below mentioned are my practical views based on my experience.
A HR Manager
- need to be a very good Administrator else he will fail to manage his departmental activities
- need to be a very good STRATEGIST. Must have vision to escalate employee and organisational standards
- need to possess PROBLEM SOLVING, CRITICAL THINKING and TEAM BUILDING SKILLS.
- need to be a very good COUNSELOR. Once cannot negotiate if he cannot counsel and convince anyone.
- need to be a TALENT DEVELOPER & PROMOTER.
Perhaps i may have missed few things. Kindly do correct me, if i am wrong.
12th November 2012 From India, Chennai
Dear Asif,
We are living in a very competitive world and industry demands more skills than being a normal personality. You have missed out those points that differentiates a Manager from a LEADER. If professionals tend to remain just as a Manager, then, i am sure some of the skills you had mentioned will not be effectively implemented.
Below mentioned are my practical views based on my experience.
A HR Manager
- need to be a very good Administrator else he will fail to manage his departmental activities
- need to be a very good STRATEGIST. Must have vision to escalate employee and organisational standards
- need to possess PROBLEM SOLVING, CRITICAL THINKING and TEAM BUILDING SKILLS.
- need to be a very good COUNSELOR. Once cannot negotiate if he cannot counsel and convince anyone.
- need to be a TALENT DEVELOPER & PROMOTER.
Perhaps i may have missed few things. Kindly do correct me, if i am wrong.
13th November 2012 From India, Chennai
Dear Khadir,
I appreciate your valuable reply except the line "You have missed out those points that differentiates a Manager from a LEADER."
You know Henry Mintzberg describes a set of ten roles that a manager fills. All those roles logically implement there is no difference between a leader and a manager. Real life experience may shows Leader is in the top level where manager is in the mid level but A manager today can be a Leader tomorrow.
So, MANAGER IS THE PART OF LEADER AND MANAGEMENT IS THE PART OF LEADERSHIP. WITHOUT MANAGEMENT THERE IS NO LEADERSHIP.
Perhaps real time business demands cannot create opportunities for a manager being a leader. But you cannot ignore interrelated factors between a manager and a leader.
13th November 2012 From Bangladesh
Dear Asif,

I am glad you shared your views. I don't know about your experience but, i feel like sharing my views with you. Kindly feel free to discuss with Industry experts having PRACTICAL/REAL TIME EXPERIENCE. Do correct me if i am wrong because i am just an ordinary guy and knowledge base is quite limited. Hope to learn more about LEADERSHIP and MANAGERIAL SKILLS/COMPETENCY.

We all know that, all five fingers are not of same size. There is huge difference between a TRADITIONAL APPROACH and STRATEGIC APPROACH. Traditional approach is related to a ordinary Manager whereas, Strategic approach is related to a Manager possessing Leadership skills that itself elevates him to the LEAD ROLE.

Manager is a designation with specific roles and responsibilities defined. Anyone can play a role of a Manager. Leadership is a Trait and Personality(a skill developed but not trained, an added advantage to distinguish himself in a million) supporting Managerial activities isolating himself from a normal personality.

There are many authors who had defined roles of a manager while associating Leadership as one of the Trait and Personality. Even today, Leadership is not found nor developed in many Managers thus forming the MANAGEMENT at higher level. Hence, in practical norms, I would love to say without LEADERSHIP there is NO EFFECTIVE MANAGEMENT NOR PRODUCTIVE MANAGERS. Please have a debate on this point which i want to highlight, "LEADERSHIP MUST BE PART OF EVERY MANAGEMENT" making it a STRATEGIC/DYNAMIC/ENTHUSIASTIC and lot more, but not vice versa. MANAGEMENT is always a MANAGEMENT, no doubt it.

There is nothing to inter-relate as it is very clear that LEADER is a TRAIT & PERSONALITY(Skills) and its not a Designation. Few evencalled Leadership as a COMPETENCY which is mapped for executive specific roles. I believe in REAL TIME BUSINESS, but not in CONCEPTS. Many concepts are based on REAL TIME CASE STUDIES. There are plenty of opportunities for LEADERS beyond their expectation of just being a MANAGER.

If you are linkedin member, you may call for debate on this topic in LEADERSHIP THINK THANK group.

Good Luck

With profound regards
13th November 2012 From India, Chennai
Some of the skills are;
Overall in my view He must be sensitive to the people i.e. employees issues keeping in sight the organisational goals and must be able to walk the tightrope of the balance between these two ends.
Besides above , He must be able to manage and and have Management skills like all other Managers and must perform the functions of Planning, coordinating, controlling etc. etc.

13th November 2012 From India, Bangalore
Dear Khadir,

Glad to get your detail view. I really appreciate your concern and knowledge. Let's justify my arguments.

1) According to you, Manager implies Traditional Approach where Manager with Leadership skills implies Strategic Approach.

My argument: At this point of view there is no argument.

2) You wrote that, Manager is a designation with defined duties and responsibilities where Leadership is Trait and Personality which is developed not trained.

My argument: In this point of view you tried to say that "Leaders are born not create." But research and evidence shows that leadership is a skill set and can be taught to anyone, so we must identify the proper behaviors to teach potential leaders. In this regards we also need to identify an important component : the environment in which the leader exists.

So, Leadership is a bunch of traits and behaviors which can also be transferable by proper teaching and training to others considering the surrounding situation.

3) You wrote that, Leadership is part of Management and not vice versa.

My argument: Earlier you wrote Manager is defined designation with proper duties and responsibilities, where Leadership is trait and personality. Actually we know a defined position is fixed or unchanged, that means limited. But the Leadership which is a combination of human instincts (trait and personality), is always changeable according to situation or context and researchers are researching on this. This implies that Leadership is not fixed or Unlimited.

So, an unlimited subject/object cannot be a part of limited subject/object (only partially it is correct, i.e, partially unlimited subject/object can be part of limited subject/object, but not as a whole). But the opposite is always correct. Therefore, Leadership is not part of Management but Management is the part of Leadership.

4) According to you, There is no inter-relation between leadership and management.

My argument: You wrote "LEADERSHIP MUST BE PART OF EVERY MANAGEMENT" (although this is partially correct not as a whole). And we know when we say something is part of something then there should have some inter-relation between those two. There are lots of example around us.

5) You believe in Real-Life Experience not in Concept.

My Argument: Concept refers mental ability to analyze and diagnose real time state of affairs. If real time experience is input then Concept is the Output. You believe in Input with no Output. This is the most illogical part of your writing.

One Last comment before I finish - Organizations need strong leadership and strong management for optimal effectiveness. In today's dynamic world, we need leaders to challenge the status quo, to create visions of the future, and to inspire organizational members to want to achieve the visions. We also need managers to formulate detailed plans, create efficient organizational structures and oversee day-to-day operations. Therefore, Leadership and Management are collaborative rather confronting.
14th November 2012 From Bangladesh
Dear Raghavaraj

This is a gud forum... Since i have completed MBA oly 6 months before... i ll give my opinion about how we go wrong when doing our studies........

pls make sure that u r clear with concepts.. pls dnt mug things up.... on short dnt study on exam point of view....

-------Find PRACTICAL EXAMPLES on wat u study in theory....

------- Pls read Business Line and Economic times news papers-- u ll get to know several case studies and their probable solutions.

-------- Volunteer urself for ORGANIZING functions in ur department and U ll come across persons wit different attitude and u ll know how to get work from them and also u will know how to react to situations.....

--------Go through various journals and magazines that give u current updates in ur specialisation.

--------While doing ur project, dnt go to company for "Data Collection" alone , u ll get a chance to interact with the HR of that company, u can ask thm to share their experience and challenges they face in theie career which may act as an input for u...

--------and leave the "I" attitude and set aside ur "EGO" u ll always have the opportunity of learning from every one........

And SENIORS CORRECT ME IF AM WRONG......................
14th November 2012 From India, Coimbatore
Hi Raghavaraj
The three essential qualities without which HR manager cant be successful HR manager are as follows (what i personally think):
1. One should have very good understanding of human behavior and psychology which enable him to feel the pulse of each individual arround him, which will provide him extra space to plan strategy for the issues which can arise in future.
2. Management (Manage - men - t actfully) - he should be tactful to how to deal and react in various situations which can arise all of a sudden in an organization where your role and involvement is very imperative.
3. He should be always a student. There is always space for improvement so we cant say we are perfect, to do justice to our job, our feild we shold always strive to learn new and newer theories and concepts and this will lead us to fantastic innovations.
14th November 2012 From India, Bangalore
Dear Khadir, hope you are keeping well. Sorry for late reply as I was busy with exam. Yes, we are just exchanging our views. And also, neither I'm an expert nor I have a profound knowledge base. I'm still an amateur. However, I go through your writing and I again really appreciate your concern and knowledge. Let's justify my views on some your stands.

1) You believe LEADERSHIP IS NATURAL/IN-BORN. Then on your basis of belief, every single human being posses this natural/in-born attribute including you. Then why all the people are not leader? In my point of view, this is because of Situation and internal factors of the human being. Here internal factors consists of BASIC & POSITIVE human traits. And this traits are for all not for specific Human Being like Mohammad (PUBH) or other prophets. And we know Mohammad himself always encouraged his surrounding people to nurture those traits in themselves. If it is fixed or specific for only Mohammad (PUBH) then why he always encouraged others?

2) Managers are human being, so every manager posses Leadership skills. It is again because of Situation and Internal Factors of the Human Being, not all the managers can exhibit LEADERSHIP. Also this is not fixed for specific managers of an Organization. Moreover, Mohammad (PUBH) himself aligned with both as a Leader and a Manager. And it is not found anywhere written that Mohammad (PUBH) could not manage facts or matters successfully until he was matured enough to exhibit leadership skills.

3) Real time state of affairs refer to the every SIMILAR facts or matters (NOT THE SAME facts or matters) happening in this universe. Whatever is the condition, it is required to get the idea which can be obtained from those or combination of those similar things, can also be referred as Concept. Yes, we are not living in a conceptual life but that doesn't mean to ignore Concept.

Thanking you,

Asif
3rd December 2012 From Bangladesh
Dear Asif,

Please find my views in ITALIC, in your post below . Should you have queries for clarification, please revert.

With profound regards

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Dear Khadir, hope you are keeping well. Sorry for late reply as I was busy with exam. Yes, we are just exchanging our views. And also, neither I'm an expert nor I have a profound knowledge base. I'm still an amateur. However, I go through your writing and I again really appreciate your concern and knowledge. Let's justify my views on some your stands.

1) You believe LEADERSHIP IS NATURAL/IN-BORN. Then on your basis of belief, every single human being posses this natural/in-born attribute including you. Then why all the people are not leader? In my point of view, this is because of Situation and internal factors of the human being. Here internal factors consists of BASIC & POSITIVE human traits. And this traits are for all not for specific Human Being like Mohammad (PUBH) or other prophets. And we know Mohammad himself always encouraged his surrounding people to nurture those traits in themselves. If it is fixed or specific for only Mohammad (PUBH) then why he always encouraged others?

Yes, we all are born with some or the other skills. A leader, unless and until succeed in demonstrating his abilities by leaving a long lasting impact, none will consider nor accept him as a LEADER. He must succeed in LEADING HIMSELF, LEADING OTHERS and LEADING ORGANISATIONS as well. When it comes to corporate sector, successfull LEADERS are those who focused on VISION, MISSION, VALUES, CULTURE and may be more. A LEADER must look into both MICRO & MACRO levels of an organisation. Even this applies to GRAND PARENTS as they are held responsible for molding their grand children

I am trying to follow and promote the LEADERSHIP SKILLS demonstrated by our prophet Mohammed (PUBH) but then, he was THE CHOSEN ONE and we cannot compare ourselves with him nor we can meet even 1% of his LEADERSHIP SKILLS. The major reason behind our Prophet success as a LEADER was his DOWN TO EARTH ATTITUDE, he never use to get ANGRY, he never loved this DUNIYA(world), he was not after POWER, MONEY & ACHIEVING SUCCESS, his concerned was to SATISFY ALLAH for sending him in this world on a GREAT MISSION, all he wanted to RECEIVE DIVINELY HELP FROM ALLAH and nor he had EGO.



2) Managers are human being, so every manager posses Leadership skills. It is again because of Situation and Internal Factors of the Human Being, not all the managers can exhibit LEADERSHIP. Also this is not fixed for specific managers of an Organization. Moreover, Mohammad (PUBH) himself aligned with both as a Leader and a Manager. And it is not found anywhere written that Mohammad (PUBH) could not manage facts or matters successfully until he was matured enough to exhibit leadership skills.

We must understand the word "MANAGE" and "LEADER". An ordinary MANAGER will remain as MANAGER. MATURITY can be related with COMPETENCIES required to execute a role, wherein a MANAGER will demonstrate his MATURITY LEVELS while making use of his SKILLS and KNOWLEDGE. Our PROPHET is an EXTRAORDINARY PERSON, we better not compare him with anything but can take him as a ROLE MODEL.

Managers need to focus on INNOVATE and EXCEL strategies rather than merely plan and execute. Any manager who takes complete OWNERSHIP and ACCOUNTABILITY he will demonstrate LEADERSHIP SKILLS. But, ensure that he is perfect in DELEGATING TASK(its a beautiful module by itself which can be taught in one day session). No management will stop any manager from demonstrating his LEADERSHIP SKILLS unless he don't practice DICTATORSHIP STYLE. Manager can practice the following Leadership styles - PARTICIPATIVE, CHARISMATIC, SITUATIONAL(the best of all leadership style).



3) Real time state of affairs refer to the every SIMILAR facts or matters (NOT THE SAME facts or matters) happening in this universe. Whatever is the condition, it is required to get the idea which can be obtained from those or combination of those similar things, can also be referred as Concept. Yes, we are not living in a conceptual life but that doesn't mean to ignore Concept.

A person with high MATURITY LEVELS (high in IQ & EQ), one who can balance LIFE and WORK PLACE STRESS, he will demonstrate SITUATIONAL LEADERSHIP STYLE. We cannot operate by relying on concept because we never what may happen next as our life is UNPREDICTABLE

Thanking you,

Asif
3rd December 2012 From India, Chennai
Dear Khadir,

Thanks for your reply. Please find my views below -

1) Yes, Of course A leader, unless and until succeed in demonstrating his abilities by leaving a long lasting impact, none will consider nor accept him as a LEADER. Also one should have to consider that if the SITUATION and the majority of SURROUNDING people will not be in his favor then neither there will an impact of Leader nor he can succeed in demonstrating his abilities by leaving a long lasting impact. It is not only the Leader himself who is responsible for.

2) Yes, Mohammad (PBUH) is the chosen one. And also Mohammad (PBUH) is the benchmark as a human being to compare with. If I think I need to nurture those traits that had in Mohammad but I'm afraid of comparing with him then how can I get the feedback of my position? THE ONLY THING WHICH IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MOHAMMAD AND OTHER HUMAN BEINGS IS NOBUYAT AND RISALAT. If you want then study on NOBUYAT AND RISALAT.

3) Showing DOWN TO EARTH attitude is DEITY possessed by every Human Being. It is never ever fixed for Muhammad (PBUH) only. If I cannot show those attitudes than that is my responsibility.

4) Yes, We cannot operate by relying on concept because we never know what may happen next as our life is UNPREDICTABLE. But for UNPREDICTABILITY We need to recycle or redefine the concept.

Regards,

Asif
8th December 2012 From Bangladesh
Dear Asif
Glad you shared your views. I just want to correct your spelling mistake. Its not NABUYAT, its NABUWATH. With regards to NABUWATH and RISALAT, I am gaining more information pertaining to it because i am a tableeq jamaathi and i had been involving myself in tableeq jamaath activities to strengthen my E-MAAN. I had already spent 4months in the path of ALLAH. I often listen to bayaan delivered by SA-AD MOULANA, based at NIZAMUDDIN MARKAZ, Delhi.
If you have more information to share about NABUWATH and RISAALATH, please do feel free to share. Kindly do share your email for future correspondence.
With profound regards
10th December 2012 From India, Chennai
Dear SKhadir,
Thanks to share your views. And also glad to know that you are a tableeq jamaathi and following the tableeq jamaath activities to strengthen your E-MAAN. May ALLAH bless you to continue your journey to this ETERNAL path and your DESCENDANTS hence.
As this is a public forum and also it is not legal for any type of religious discussion here then it's better to make correspondence through our personal e-mail. Sorry to say that I already got your mail but unfortunately, It was not possible for me to reply in due time. Hope you wouldn't mind. Anyway, thanks again to correct my TYPO.
Regards,
Asif
17th December 2012 From Bangladesh
Dear Asif,
My way of thinking is quite different from others. Except ALMIGHTY ALLAH, I am not afraid of tom dick and harry. Please be informed that, you have right to discuss anything you wish but, make sure that you don't harm others with your statements. That's very important. But then, onething might trouble us while having such discussion, its nothing but the Individual's Perception level which vary's person-to-person.
With profound regards
17th December 2012 From India, Chennai
Dear HR professionals,
Below are 10 most common traits that all HR leaders need to have in today and future business environment:
1. Have functional knowledge and expertise
2. Have a great insight about the business
3. Have excellent people skills
4. Practice with integrity
5. Think strategically and analytically
6. Focus on performance and metrics
7. Be tech-savvy
8. Have solutions-oriented attitude
9. Inspire and motivate people
10. Keep learning and encourage innovation
In case you are interested in finding more details 10 Traits of Today's and Future's Exceptional HR Leaders
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