Compensation And Policy
Recruitment/talent Acquisition, Career Counselling
Learning & Teaching Fellow (retired)
29th March 2009 From Saudi Arabia
I can only help those who help themselves first. Instead of posing a long case study and looking for answers, what I would appreciate more is when a student does the work and sends her/his analysis and asks whether (s)he is on the right lines.
Have a nice day.
A retired academic in UK
7th April 2009 From United Kingdom
By the way wat is ur conclusion abt the "case study"???
Hey I read it and found that -the "initimacy part" has been exaggerated in both the departments. In department A - its lack of closeness, in dept B its just the opposite. (both at extremes)
Let me tell you what I feel abt it:
Department A ; Is probably aware that intimacy will not lead to productivity. But in the name of intimacy/romance, there seems to be a complete hindrance to “Effective communication”
Like the professor using the service of the secretary to communicate – is really an exaggerated case. In this way – the department is only focusing on removing romance and high level of involvement in relationship. But are they also looking at the productivity/betterment part? No. They are not
Rather they should concentrate of communicating for professional betterment, but also make sure that any advancement made by them do not send the wrong signals. The very fact that the professor ./ or any one – shows a complet disagreement for any discussion (which they think may lead to intimate relationship) is very boring. It will not be a productive place!
Too much of everything other than productivity. Let me tell you – there is a famous saying “Never marry the person whom u work with or your dance partner”. Its true. Neither will u have a happy work life or a happy married life.
This would definitely deviate the “purpose of working” notion.
Under such situations there are possibilities of making decisions in the favour of ones latest crush / love / interest… and not for the “benefit of the organization”
This applies to any educational or non-educational Organizations too.
What I would say is – depending abt the type of Organization and its structure, communication must be transparent and must have a free flow. Lengthy commute of communication will only lead to issues within the organization and a tense work situation.
The essentials of business communication has be stressed upon.
If it’s a question of sexual harassment, I guess there are policies against the same. But it all depends on how the victim handles it. If you give in way for someone to behave that way, there is no point ion shouting at the policy!
Professional communication and involvement must be encouraged. Acts of intimate closeness can be avoided or requested to be avoided.
So I would say – Professional intimacy J is fine.
But Romance – sexual intimacy at work, will never lead anyone anywhere – but yes into trouble.
And – if in the name of “avoiding romance and sexual intimacy” people avoid communicating effectively – even that is a like a slow poison.
7th April 2009 From India, Madras
I couldn't have said better....except the quote/saying you used for the analysis of Dept B.
Just as there are exceptions to every rule, so too for this aspect. I know of good companies where the couple work together in the same company [One of the Top-5 IT companies] with the hubby being the HR Head [until a couple of yrs ago...now he heads the Global Mktg function]. The key is to find the right balance...as long as the understanding is clear, it would be one of the best combinations. Especially if they couple happen to own the company/business.
7th April 2009 From India, Hyderabad
7th April 2009 From India, Hyderabad
you are correct, we can compare the two departments on different styles of working, on one side there is department A where the employees are totally professional and the relation towards their colleagues is very formal while on the other side the relations between colleagues in Department B is very casual.
Also we need to consider the environments , Department A is multi site whereas Department B is very small and newly established, so the employees working in Department B are less Autocratic ( i dont know if I am using right word or not). whereas the example of the professor telling his secretary to type a memo is not of using her, but it indicates the level of professionalism in communication, I mean the employees inspite of working within a very close / near physical distance are totally aloof from each other,, the professor cant even trust that a verbal communication will do, and goes on to dictate a memo to his secretary and the employees dont believe in breaking the chain,, the professor wants everything to go by rule, even if sometimes it may mean that it is too government organinsation type,, too lenghty process..
Other main point is the treating of non academic staff by academic staff,, in Department A , they treated non academic staff as slaves, too low, whereas in Department B ,, it was mentioned that they were more of a family, i.e close knit.
Sexual harassment occured in both Departments but it was all hushed up in Department B and not given much importance,, as the whole atmosphere was sexualised..
Also the employees in Department A were not concerned i mean were introverts ,, concerned with their own work whereas those working in department B were friendly with other employees even if their work did not involve interaction with the other employee.
And much more to write, but it will be better if it could be structured properly and as case study is too long,, dont know how to put it..
7th April 2009 From India, Pune
And another point to note as u mentioned is - irrespective of whether the dept is aware of the intimate relationship, or whether there are strict rules restricting the involvement of any relationship - sexual harrasment and other such related romatic intimacy does exist everywhere. Correct?
So the romantic intimacy / or covering the reality part of it - has nothing to do with productivity...
Dept A professor is very particular abt verbal communication's accuracy. . . . but how sure is he that the written memo conveys the actual message?
How sure can one be that the other person has "effectively" understood the message, and thus reduce possibility of communication error?
Dept B - I agree its a small environment and the chances of interacting with one another is very high - but the advantage is, there is a transparency in communication...but lack in work culture.
As you said, The case study can be made really short...by explaining just the work culture of Dept A and Dept B and the good and bad effects of the same.. This may help in having additional input from our readers.
8th April 2009 From India, Madras
well thanks now will forward this all to my friend, and let him do the rest,,
8th April 2009 From India, Pune
I do not know how to send an attachment to a private message. I have attached an incomplete framework to use while preparing for a case study examination. As we do not know the exact questions that would appear on the paper, it is advisable to extract as much info as possible and in ones own word too. Also, one should take some notes about related theories. I have given links to couple of articles on websites.
I hope your friend finds these useful for preparing.
9th April 2009 From United Kingdom
May be I will visit later this year.
9th April 2009 From United Kingdom
i my view initiation and relation are different aspects. In combined families the relation will exists in some times the the initiation is not works to go things smoothly. In the distant education there will be no relation between the teacher and student but course will be completed as having the interest of student and reaches the target. In the olden days also ikalavya improved the skill without the guru as equally arujuna. The kawrasa ruined with having like mindedness and huge relations. In any target or purpose of action there should win and win situation. In win and loose situation one will ruinous in the games. Hence in all situation balance should be maintained for prosperous of human kind
22nd December 2012 From India, Visakhapatnam
There has to be a balance. Organisation should provide avenues of effective communication. You can have variuos formal informal communication channels for that. Eg formal..monthly meets etc. informal common - tea breaks. At the end employees are social biengs.
But the problem begins when employees starts blurring limits and engage in casual/amorous relationships in office. Or may be some employees kind of become a "gang" of friends. In that case they think alike, they act alike. They then start challanging the systems. Thier behaviour sometime can be disturbing for people who are not part of the Gang. They will have thier group specific issues, which might become headache for HR/ Org.
This off limit behaviour should be curtailed by Mangment/HR positive interventions at regular intervals.
19th February 2013 From India, Chandigarh