Dear Priyanka,
Software companies are covered under Shops and Establishments Act. This act slightly varies from state to state.
For Example, A software company in Bangalore will be covered under Shops and Establishments Act, Karnataka. Another software co. in UP will be covered under Shops and Establishments Act, Uttar Pradesh.
Regards,
Ash.pgdm
From India, Hyderabad
2Software companies are covered under Shops and Establishments Act. This act slightly varies from state to state.
For Example, A software company in Bangalore will be covered under Shops and Establishments Act, Karnataka. Another software co. in UP will be covered under Shops and Establishments Act, Uttar Pradesh.
Regards,
Ash.pgdm
From India, Hyderabad
Dear Priyank
Software industry doesnt come under Industries Act,but under Shops and establishment Act, if you read the definition of Industry under Industrial Act you will understand why Software company are not covered under industrial Act
Regards
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
Software industry doesnt come under Industries Act,but under Shops and establishment Act, if you read the definition of Industry under Industrial Act you will understand why Software company are not covered under industrial Act
Regards
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
no, ID Act is not applicable here. But, you need to go through shops and establishments act in detail in case u r thinking to just discard id act.
Also, if you let me know the context in particular, i will try to help.
From India, Hyderabad
Also, if you let me know the context in particular, i will try to help.
From India, Hyderabad
Please correct me if I am wrong, what is Industrial Act? When was the Act enacted? For me two basic Acts are Factories Act, 1948 (Central Act) and Shops and Establishments Act (of respective state govt.) although there are Mines Act, Plantations Labour Acts etc particularly for the concerned industry.
Industry has a wider meaning to cover all activities which are not otherwise covered by Shops and Establishments Act. Under Industrial Disputes Act, 1947, industry means any systematic activity resulting in the production or distribution of goods and services. Even the capital investment and profit motive are irrelevant in deciding whether an activity shall be considered as industry or not.
IT/Software companies are also engaged in an activity of production and distribution of goods/ services. As such there is no ground to say that IT companies do not come under Industrial Disputes Act.
In fact, if a thorough interpretation of term 'factory' in the Factories Act is done, IT companies shall also come under the Factories Act. But since the definition is narrow and many provisions made in the Act are relevant only to manufacturing units, IT companies came under 'other establishments'.
Like Factories Act, Shops and Establishments Act also does not provide any thing for settlement of disputes. All these Acts, such as Factories Act, Shops and Establishments Act, Plantations Labour Act or Mines Act, are meant for providing for health, welfare and security of employees employed therein. These Acts speak about hours of work, overtime, weekly off, welfare steps to be taken by the employer, measures to ensure safety and security of employees etc. In case of disputes, whether in any manufacturing or factory unit or shop or establishment, the same is redressed by authorities under the Industrial Disputes Act. Since in IT companies also employee - employer relationship is present there is no meaning in saying that the IT sector is free from coverage of ID Act. If it is so where should the employees seek justice?
I think the amendment to the Factories Act permitting women employees to work during night shift was made with a view to benefiting the IT sector. Similarly a verdict in the closure issue of Cholamandalam Software Company which did not intimate the appropriate government of its intention to close down the company was in favour of the employees. Right now I don't have supporting details but I shall post it soon.
The above views substantiate that IT company will also come under the coverage of Industrial Disputes Act.
Regards,
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
Industry has a wider meaning to cover all activities which are not otherwise covered by Shops and Establishments Act. Under Industrial Disputes Act, 1947, industry means any systematic activity resulting in the production or distribution of goods and services. Even the capital investment and profit motive are irrelevant in deciding whether an activity shall be considered as industry or not.
IT/Software companies are also engaged in an activity of production and distribution of goods/ services. As such there is no ground to say that IT companies do not come under Industrial Disputes Act.
In fact, if a thorough interpretation of term 'factory' in the Factories Act is done, IT companies shall also come under the Factories Act. But since the definition is narrow and many provisions made in the Act are relevant only to manufacturing units, IT companies came under 'other establishments'.
Like Factories Act, Shops and Establishments Act also does not provide any thing for settlement of disputes. All these Acts, such as Factories Act, Shops and Establishments Act, Plantations Labour Act or Mines Act, are meant for providing for health, welfare and security of employees employed therein. These Acts speak about hours of work, overtime, weekly off, welfare steps to be taken by the employer, measures to ensure safety and security of employees etc. In case of disputes, whether in any manufacturing or factory unit or shop or establishment, the same is redressed by authorities under the Industrial Disputes Act. Since in IT companies also employee - employer relationship is present there is no meaning in saying that the IT sector is free from coverage of ID Act. If it is so where should the employees seek justice?
I think the amendment to the Factories Act permitting women employees to work during night shift was made with a view to benefiting the IT sector. Similarly a verdict in the closure issue of Cholamandalam Software Company which did not intimate the appropriate government of its intention to close down the company was in favour of the employees. Right now I don't have supporting details but I shall post it soon.
The above views substantiate that IT company will also come under the coverage of Industrial Disputes Act.
Regards,
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
dear madhu is absolutely right .we should not mix shop and est act and industrial dispute act. industrial dispute act will apply here. tks j s malik
From India, Delhi
From India, Delhi
Even i was thinking in the same way as madhu but got confused with the comments of ash.....so software companies come under the defn of industries........ash would u like to comment on this
From India, Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
Dear all, A valuable topic for discussion. Correct me If I am wrong, please :- "Will the employees in a Software industry fall under the definition 'Labour' ?"
From India, Madras
From India, Madras
In labour law, the term labour is not confined to un skilled employees or those working in factories. It can be extended to office staff as well. At the same time many Acts give separate treatments to supervisory staff. That means a worker who is not supervised for his work shall not come under the defenition of labour. Similarly, many Acts restricts the applicability to 'workmen' with ceiling on wages/ salary. Now the Payment of Wages is applicable to persons drawing Rs 10000. With such enhancements, I feel that one who does work for another and for a return by whatever name called, viz, wages, salary, or honorarium, shall come under the definition of 'labour". As such, employees who work in IT companies and who are subject to supervision by others shall also come under labour.
Regards,
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
Regards,
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
Madhu,
Cholamandalam Software Company case has gone through labour court, single judge and division bench of Chennai high court and also Supreme court, where it was reffered to larger bench. Can you give us the final verdict of the case?
In another case of Tata Consultancy Services v. State of Andhra Pradesh, software is considered as 'goods'.
Considering these verdicts can a software industry of not less than 100 employees be exempted from section V B of Industrial Disputes Act?
Section VB says that prior permission is required from appropriate government for retrenchment of employees and also three months notice period or equivalent salary plus compensation at the rate of 15 days/ year of service, if the no of employees is not less than 100. Is this applicable in software companies?
Haynes
From India, Bangalore
Cholamandalam Software Company case has gone through labour court, single judge and division bench of Chennai high court and also Supreme court, where it was reffered to larger bench. Can you give us the final verdict of the case?
In another case of Tata Consultancy Services v. State of Andhra Pradesh, software is considered as 'goods'.
Considering these verdicts can a software industry of not less than 100 employees be exempted from section V B of Industrial Disputes Act?
Section VB says that prior permission is required from appropriate government for retrenchment of employees and also three months notice period or equivalent salary plus compensation at the rate of 15 days/ year of service, if the no of employees is not less than 100. Is this applicable in software companies?
Haynes
From India, Bangalore
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