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My boss does not recognize my work. He mostly takes the credit away from me for all the work that I do. Do you also face a similar problem? What do you do in this condition? Please reply.
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Deepti
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My boss does not recognize my work. He mostly takes the credit away from me for all the work that I do. Do you also face a similar problem? What do you do in this condition? Please reply.
Regards,
Deepti
From India, Delhi
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Hi Boss is a thg you should maintain proficienal relationship only. Once u start personal relationship u can feel bad. Deal boss with MIND not hearth
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Dear Deepti,
Greetings!
Go for Boss Management.
10 rules to manage your boss by Jacques Horovitz
The relationship with your boss is probably the most important relationship you have at work. Boss management can stimulate better performance, improve your working life, job satisfaction, and workload. Give your boss a hand and reap the rewards.
When we think of managing someone, we usually think of managing our team members or subordinates. The above title appeared for the first time a few years ago in a Harvard Business Review article written by two well-known socio-psychologists. Their argument was that in modern companies, subordinates are not solely dependent on their bosses, but that today's complexity requires interdependence: the boss needs her team as well. I have the vantage point of being an adviser to top management, a CEO, and now as Co-Director of the PED program at IMD. In addition, I have been involved in the restructuring of a major international company, which involves some 12,000 people and 12 hierarchical levels. In order to unleash the energies and get closer to customers, we divided the group into 250 'small companies' of some 50 people each and of three hierarchical levels. To change the mindset, we organized a 20-day management seminar, during which we discussed the challenge of how to deal with bosses, who in the old structure, tended to hamper change. The whole process forced me to crystallize my observations and previous experience and test them with the 250 managers. I have grouped the results into ten rules that try to answer some common questions asked by managers with respect to managing their bosses, with the aim of helping the relationship become more effective, foster faster decisions, better decisions, and more trust.
1. Decisions: If you do not want a 'no' or procrastination, give him/her a hand Your boss has other subordinates, other decisions to make. Thus, her (for simplicity, we use 'her' from now on in this article) best bet, if she is pressed for a decision, will be to say no. No, it is too risky; no, we do not have enough evidence; no, it is the wrong timing; no, it is off strategy, etc.
- To avoid the 'no' that will ruin your and your team's enthusiasm, give her a hand.
- Remind her of where you left it last time you met;
- Remind her of the objective rather than rushing to the 'what' and 'how';
- Remind her of past problems encountered because a decision was not made;
- Quickly summarize the options considered, your criteria for selecting one option -- the one you are presenting;
- Tell her what you expect from her: simply to inform, to decide jointly, to share the risk, to add one criterion, to re-examine the option;
- Focus on the points where you need her help;
- Be prepared with facts/data for potential disagreements. Help her out with graphics and visuals so that the situation is grasped faster;
- After your meeting, summarize for her the decision in writing to make sure of the understanding;
- And finally, once a decision has been made, your way, her way, or no way, do not criticize it externally. You have become the best defender; the best ambassador of what was decided.
2. Manage her time: You may represent only 1% of her problems, don't make it as if it is 100%. Yes, you have preoccupations, problems to solve, and issues to tackle. However, while your time is entirely devoted to them, do not expect your boss's time to be also.
- The more simple the problem or issue at hand is, the less time you should have her spend on it: prepare, summarize, and synthesize information and options. Do not confuse your more frequent problems with the most important ones.
- Book her for several meetings in advance. Nothing is more frustrating than to have to wait days, weeks, or months for that extra new meeting needed in order to finalize a decision or a project.
3. An opinion: If you ask for her opinion, she will always have one. Rare are the bosses who, when asked for their advice or their decision, will use the psychological ping-pong approach of returning the question to the person who asked. And their opinion may not always be that of a genius or a visionary. However, once given, the opinion becomes a constraint: was it an order? So, if you don't want your boss's opinion to thwart your achievements, to slow the speed of decision-making, or cloud the viewpoint, then don't ask for it. Best of all, don't ask if you don't need her opinion.
- Choose the right moment to avoid procrastination: not only save her time by focusing on big issues, but choose the right moment to do so. If you present an issue at the wrong moment, the chances are she will procrastinate.
- Prepare for your meeting: first because the advantage is to the one who is prepared, second because the preparation helps you reduce the time taken to come to the central issue.
- Show the forest before the trees in a discussion: if you want to avoid spending a lot of time on going back to basics before she is at full speed with you, start with the basics yourself. Remind her of the objective, where you stand today, and what you want her opinion on.
4. Information: It is not data. Turn grapes into wine: you are supposed to analyze the results of a market survey, and not be the mailman who passes the thick document full of statistics to your boss. So be selective; be visual; group the data; bring out what is essential. Data overload creates stress, which in turn can create denial, rejection, and numbness. As a manager, you are paid to collect the grapes (data), and turn them into wine, i.e. useful information.
- Don't give her only the bad news: give her also the good news. If you keep bringing only bad news, little by little you become the bad news yourself. Don't minimize good news, because you want to focus on the problems. By doing that you contribute to creating a bad atmosphere.
- Make sure she does not get the information from others too often: sometimes by being shy about what we should give or because we think it is not relevant, we don't feed our boss with key elements. However, other people could do it before you. And then the hassle starts. "I heard that", "Why didn't you tell me that"
- And then you need to justify yourself; you may need to modify incorrect information. The trade-off is between too little information leading to starvation, frustration, and/or restlessness vs too much information leading to overload.
- Round off: what helps more to give sense to an amount or a size: 886,262.11 or 890K? What makes the decision-making process faster: 79.27% vs 21.73% or simply 80% vs 20%. Look back at all the tables you sent to your boss in the last twelve months.
- Participate in and contribute to her informal network: every manager, hopefully, does not rely solely for managing on formal information given in internal documents and reports. Some people use internal informal networks. Some others also have an informal outside network of experts, friends, business connections that help them shape their vision of the world and how to act. You have yours; your boss has too. Why not volunteer part of yours, so that you do not always have to react and be defensive about information fed by people you do not necessarily think are the best sources?
5. Problems: Don't just come with problems, come also with solutions. Good bosses hate two kinds of behavior. The courtesan who always comes to tell you how great you are and the pyromaniac/fireman who comes to tell you "There is a huge problem" and then says "but don't worry, I will solve it!" There is also a third kind, the monkey transferor. She has a problem and she puts it on your shoulders, rather than bringing a solution or at least some options. Problems usually have several aspects. It is usually a gap between an objective and the result; there are options to close the gap; there is a choice of one option to be made; key tasks, dates, people, and resources needed must be defined. On which of those steps in problem solving do you want your boss's input? Just be clear on what input you want rather than come with the stressful -- "I have a problem" and throw the monkey.
6. Assumptions: Do not assume she knows as much as you do, but assume she can understand; so educate her. Please help, you are the expert. You spend all of your time and that of your team on the issue. You live with data, pressure points, and levers; your boss does not. She does not know more than you do. Most senior executives are even dangerous when they get involved in making micro-decisions, as their point of reference is often not the current one but rather the situation they knew when they were junior managers. If you need her perspective, it is because it is broader; she has a better sense for inter-relationships with other parts of the organization. You have two options.
- You inundate her with technical stuff she does not understand, hoping that the amount of technical jargon will knock her down and force her to agree with you. It may work, but it may become a barrier in communication leading to a lack of trust.
- You educate him by simplifying, using easy to understand language, feeding him with articles, examples, best practices,
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Greetings!
Go for Boss Management.
10 rules to manage your boss by Jacques Horovitz
The relationship with your boss is probably the most important relationship you have at work. Boss management can stimulate better performance, improve your working life, job satisfaction, and workload. Give your boss a hand and reap the rewards.
When we think of managing someone, we usually think of managing our team members or subordinates. The above title appeared for the first time a few years ago in a Harvard Business Review article written by two well-known socio-psychologists. Their argument was that in modern companies, subordinates are not solely dependent on their bosses, but that today's complexity requires interdependence: the boss needs her team as well. I have the vantage point of being an adviser to top management, a CEO, and now as Co-Director of the PED program at IMD. In addition, I have been involved in the restructuring of a major international company, which involves some 12,000 people and 12 hierarchical levels. In order to unleash the energies and get closer to customers, we divided the group into 250 'small companies' of some 50 people each and of three hierarchical levels. To change the mindset, we organized a 20-day management seminar, during which we discussed the challenge of how to deal with bosses, who in the old structure, tended to hamper change. The whole process forced me to crystallize my observations and previous experience and test them with the 250 managers. I have grouped the results into ten rules that try to answer some common questions asked by managers with respect to managing their bosses, with the aim of helping the relationship become more effective, foster faster decisions, better decisions, and more trust.
1. Decisions: If you do not want a 'no' or procrastination, give him/her a hand Your boss has other subordinates, other decisions to make. Thus, her (for simplicity, we use 'her' from now on in this article) best bet, if she is pressed for a decision, will be to say no. No, it is too risky; no, we do not have enough evidence; no, it is the wrong timing; no, it is off strategy, etc.
- To avoid the 'no' that will ruin your and your team's enthusiasm, give her a hand.
- Remind her of where you left it last time you met;
- Remind her of the objective rather than rushing to the 'what' and 'how';
- Remind her of past problems encountered because a decision was not made;
- Quickly summarize the options considered, your criteria for selecting one option -- the one you are presenting;
- Tell her what you expect from her: simply to inform, to decide jointly, to share the risk, to add one criterion, to re-examine the option;
- Focus on the points where you need her help;
- Be prepared with facts/data for potential disagreements. Help her out with graphics and visuals so that the situation is grasped faster;
- After your meeting, summarize for her the decision in writing to make sure of the understanding;
- And finally, once a decision has been made, your way, her way, or no way, do not criticize it externally. You have become the best defender; the best ambassador of what was decided.
2. Manage her time: You may represent only 1% of her problems, don't make it as if it is 100%. Yes, you have preoccupations, problems to solve, and issues to tackle. However, while your time is entirely devoted to them, do not expect your boss's time to be also.
- The more simple the problem or issue at hand is, the less time you should have her spend on it: prepare, summarize, and synthesize information and options. Do not confuse your more frequent problems with the most important ones.
- Book her for several meetings in advance. Nothing is more frustrating than to have to wait days, weeks, or months for that extra new meeting needed in order to finalize a decision or a project.
3. An opinion: If you ask for her opinion, she will always have one. Rare are the bosses who, when asked for their advice or their decision, will use the psychological ping-pong approach of returning the question to the person who asked. And their opinion may not always be that of a genius or a visionary. However, once given, the opinion becomes a constraint: was it an order? So, if you don't want your boss's opinion to thwart your achievements, to slow the speed of decision-making, or cloud the viewpoint, then don't ask for it. Best of all, don't ask if you don't need her opinion.
- Choose the right moment to avoid procrastination: not only save her time by focusing on big issues, but choose the right moment to do so. If you present an issue at the wrong moment, the chances are she will procrastinate.
- Prepare for your meeting: first because the advantage is to the one who is prepared, second because the preparation helps you reduce the time taken to come to the central issue.
- Show the forest before the trees in a discussion: if you want to avoid spending a lot of time on going back to basics before she is at full speed with you, start with the basics yourself. Remind her of the objective, where you stand today, and what you want her opinion on.
4. Information: It is not data. Turn grapes into wine: you are supposed to analyze the results of a market survey, and not be the mailman who passes the thick document full of statistics to your boss. So be selective; be visual; group the data; bring out what is essential. Data overload creates stress, which in turn can create denial, rejection, and numbness. As a manager, you are paid to collect the grapes (data), and turn them into wine, i.e. useful information.
- Don't give her only the bad news: give her also the good news. If you keep bringing only bad news, little by little you become the bad news yourself. Don't minimize good news, because you want to focus on the problems. By doing that you contribute to creating a bad atmosphere.
- Make sure she does not get the information from others too often: sometimes by being shy about what we should give or because we think it is not relevant, we don't feed our boss with key elements. However, other people could do it before you. And then the hassle starts. "I heard that", "Why didn't you tell me that"
- And then you need to justify yourself; you may need to modify incorrect information. The trade-off is between too little information leading to starvation, frustration, and/or restlessness vs too much information leading to overload.
- Round off: what helps more to give sense to an amount or a size: 886,262.11 or 890K? What makes the decision-making process faster: 79.27% vs 21.73% or simply 80% vs 20%. Look back at all the tables you sent to your boss in the last twelve months.
- Participate in and contribute to her informal network: every manager, hopefully, does not rely solely for managing on formal information given in internal documents and reports. Some people use internal informal networks. Some others also have an informal outside network of experts, friends, business connections that help them shape their vision of the world and how to act. You have yours; your boss has too. Why not volunteer part of yours, so that you do not always have to react and be defensive about information fed by people you do not necessarily think are the best sources?
5. Problems: Don't just come with problems, come also with solutions. Good bosses hate two kinds of behavior. The courtesan who always comes to tell you how great you are and the pyromaniac/fireman who comes to tell you "There is a huge problem" and then says "but don't worry, I will solve it!" There is also a third kind, the monkey transferor. She has a problem and she puts it on your shoulders, rather than bringing a solution or at least some options. Problems usually have several aspects. It is usually a gap between an objective and the result; there are options to close the gap; there is a choice of one option to be made; key tasks, dates, people, and resources needed must be defined. On which of those steps in problem solving do you want your boss's input? Just be clear on what input you want rather than come with the stressful -- "I have a problem" and throw the monkey.
6. Assumptions: Do not assume she knows as much as you do, but assume she can understand; so educate her. Please help, you are the expert. You spend all of your time and that of your team on the issue. You live with data, pressure points, and levers; your boss does not. She does not know more than you do. Most senior executives are even dangerous when they get involved in making micro-decisions, as their point of reference is often not the current one but rather the situation they knew when they were junior managers. If you need her perspective, it is because it is broader; she has a better sense for inter-relationships with other parts of the organization. You have two options.
- You inundate her with technical stuff she does not understand, hoping that the amount of technical jargon will knock her down and force her to agree with you. It may work, but it may become a barrier in communication leading to a lack of trust.
- You educate him by simplifying, using easy to understand language, feeding him with articles, examples, best practices,
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Hi Deepti,
A lot of other people also face problems with their bosses. It is very common. Try to ask him what all his expectations are clearly once he assigns you some work, and try to do your best to match those expectations. How large is your team and company? In front of whom does he take away the credit for the work you've done?
Regards,
Anuradha
From India
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A lot of other people also face problems with their bosses. It is very common. Try to ask him what all his expectations are clearly once he assigns you some work, and try to do your best to match those expectations. How large is your team and company? In front of whom does he take away the credit for the work you've done?
Regards,
Anuradha
From India
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Hi Deepti,
It is quite common in private organizations to keep your work to yourself until the top management asks for it. If your boss requires information, provide only what is necessary without showcasing your full talent. By doing so, you increase your chances of getting opportunities for advancement.
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It is quite common in private organizations to keep your work to yourself until the top management asks for it. If your boss requires information, provide only what is necessary without showcasing your full talent. By doing so, you increase your chances of getting opportunities for advancement.
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You can't be serious about this, K.Ravi! Anyhow, Deepti, unless and until this behavior starts interfering in your professional growth and harms your mental peace, I feel you should IGNORE this fact! Don't wait for people to change; instead, take initiative and change yourself. By change, I mean either stop taking note of this or look for another opportunity if you think the current situation is going to hamper your career growth. If you foresee such things... then girl, it's time to move on! - K
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Hi Deepti,
A mean and manipulative boss is a very common thing in MNCs as people want to climb the ladder as fast as possible. In order to do so, they sometimes overlook or take undue advantage of their position, and taking credit for somebody else's work is one such practice. However, I would suggest that rather than sitting and wondering what to do, you should clearly communicate your concerns to your boss and understand his expectations from you. In the process, make sure that you take note of the TO-DOs and confirm with your supervisor. One good step would also be to get it in writing (email, a Word doc) to serve as proof of your responsibilities and other duties at work.
Also, it's not necessary to always strike a good chord with your manager. Keep it professional and simple but with no loss of apt communication (both ways).
Take care,
Kanika
From India, New Delhi
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A mean and manipulative boss is a very common thing in MNCs as people want to climb the ladder as fast as possible. In order to do so, they sometimes overlook or take undue advantage of their position, and taking credit for somebody else's work is one such practice. However, I would suggest that rather than sitting and wondering what to do, you should clearly communicate your concerns to your boss and understand his expectations from you. In the process, make sure that you take note of the TO-DOs and confirm with your supervisor. One good step would also be to get it in writing (email, a Word doc) to serve as proof of your responsibilities and other duties at work.
Also, it's not necessary to always strike a good chord with your manager. Keep it professional and simple but with no loss of apt communication (both ways).
Take care,
Kanika
From India, New Delhi
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Hi,
My boss is not my boss; he is my mentor. He has helped me, supported me, not screamed at me when wrong, helped me tide over my problems, and most of all, he believes in me. Having said that, it does not mean that we don't have a difference of opinion or that I have his biased support. There are times when I do get angry with him, but if I see the entire picture, I have been blessed to have him.
- Amrita Shah
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My boss is not my boss; he is my mentor. He has helped me, supported me, not screamed at me when wrong, helped me tide over my problems, and most of all, he believes in me. Having said that, it does not mean that we don't have a difference of opinion or that I have his biased support. There are times when I do get angry with him, but if I see the entire picture, I have been blessed to have him.
- Amrita Shah
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Dear Deepti,
I think you need to be extremely professional in dealing with such leaders. Please keep the below tips in mind to free yourself from the existing stress:
- Do not hesitate to go against him/her if you are right (if you are in line with your company policy/processes/procedures).
- Do not hesitate to apologize if you are mistaken.
- Voice out all your achievements to the entire system, including your boss's boss.
It is important for us to know that those who take undue credit are losers, as they never receive credit for their own deeds. All their actions will one day backfire.
All the best,
Thanks
From India, Mumbai
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I think you need to be extremely professional in dealing with such leaders. Please keep the below tips in mind to free yourself from the existing stress:
- Do not hesitate to go against him/her if you are right (if you are in line with your company policy/processes/procedures).
- Do not hesitate to apologize if you are mistaken.
- Voice out all your achievements to the entire system, including your boss's boss.
It is important for us to know that those who take undue credit are losers, as they never receive credit for their own deeds. All their actions will one day backfire.
All the best,
Thanks
From India, Mumbai
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In dis world 1ly one quality matters-being SMART n try not to be smarter than ur Boss. I think weak ppl depends on KARMA!!! Cheers, A Ghosh
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Hi Deepti,
You are good that you got a bad boss. This is also good. Remember, "gold shines" when it is heated. These types of incidents will increase your patience and also encourage you to do better.
I have 7 years of experience in the industry and am working as the head of HR because of these types of behaviors. Be positive and take things in a positive way. Nowadays, skills are valued, not flattery. One day, you will realize these things.
Regards, Manish Sahni
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You are good that you got a bad boss. This is also good. Remember, "gold shines" when it is heated. These types of incidents will increase your patience and also encourage you to do better.
I have 7 years of experience in the industry and am working as the head of HR because of these types of behaviors. Be positive and take things in a positive way. Nowadays, skills are valued, not flattery. One day, you will realize these things.
Regards, Manish Sahni
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"Guru Govind Dono Khade, Kake Lagun Paye, Balihari Guru Apne Jo Govind Diyo Bataye."
In an organization, the boss is like a teacher. Sometimes he may be rude, but after all, he is your teacher.
Thanks,
Shine
From India, Bhopal
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In an organization, the boss is like a teacher. Sometimes he may be rude, but after all, he is your teacher.
Thanks,
Shine
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I have just a little bit of advice...
Boss bashing is the easiest thing to do and most certain to get support from peers and friends! Rather than cussing your boss, take a step back and do some introspection. Maybe, just maybe, you need to bring about some changes either in your behavior at work or in what you deliver to the organization (not the boss). If you are honest with yourself, you will most likely find that you need to do things differently.
However, if you still feel the boss is a 'demon,' then you have two options - have a little patience, and he will most probably not last long! The second option is to look for an opportunity elsewhere but not accept anything in haste.
Cheers, Innovation 💡
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Boss bashing is the easiest thing to do and most certain to get support from peers and friends! Rather than cussing your boss, take a step back and do some introspection. Maybe, just maybe, you need to bring about some changes either in your behavior at work or in what you deliver to the organization (not the boss). If you are honest with yourself, you will most likely find that you need to do things differently.
However, if you still feel the boss is a 'demon,' then you have two options - have a little patience, and he will most probably not last long! The second option is to look for an opportunity elsewhere but not accept anything in haste.
Cheers, Innovation 💡
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I don't know why people are really interested in evaluating others.
Dear all, what do you say about this: If your boss is not good, unable, and incapable, why can't you be the one to bring about a change?
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Shiv
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Dear all, what do you say about this: If your boss is not good, unable, and incapable, why can't you be the one to bring about a change?
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Shiv
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Hi Deepti,
Same case here. I have joined the organization before him, and I was doing very well. At that time, I was reporting to one vertical head. However, with the arrival of my HR head, I am going through mental trauma and stress. I am a very simple kind of girl. His problem is that he likes those girls who are very modern and make frequent visits to his cabin, at least 50 times a day.
Please suggest, guys!
Regards,
Kiran
From India, Mumbai
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Same case here. I have joined the organization before him, and I was doing very well. At that time, I was reporting to one vertical head. However, with the arrival of my HR head, I am going through mental trauma and stress. I am a very simple kind of girl. His problem is that he likes those girls who are very modern and make frequent visits to his cabin, at least 50 times a day.
Please suggest, guys!
Regards,
Kiran
From India, Mumbai
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here you people feel you are right and only you are hardworking, but it is not like that friends, that is why boss is boss and you are you. :-P:-P:-P
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I agree with you Ravi. People expect more and work less, and they say it is their fate that they have such a boss. Why can't they take a chance to tell him and transform the situation?
My boss is not good? My friend is not good? My father, mother, sister, wife, husband, and finally Sasu (Mother-in-law) - everyone is not good... means you are not good to anyone. What do you say?
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Shiv
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My boss is not good? My friend is not good? My father, mother, sister, wife, husband, and finally Sasu (Mother-in-law) - everyone is not good... means you are not good to anyone. What do you say?
Regards,
Shiv
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Boss is the BEST.
Understand, Analyze, Inherit, Share the Knowledge of the Boss.
See your Boss as a friend, and he will be your friend.
If you see him otherwise, you will get otherwise too.
When you are pointing fingers at others, remember that four fingers are pointing back at you.
Do a self-analysis. Understand where the link is broken, and bridge that link.
If your Boss is taking credit, let him. No one can take another's credit for a long time.
Tell him, "I am happy that you are giving me lots of responsibilities, and I am coming out successfully. This is only because of you."
My Ex-Boss was also the BEST. Initially, I had the same problem as you, but later, when I understood, he turned out to be the best Boss for me.
My Current Bosses (Reporting to 4) are really wonderful. They guide, cheer, and correct me whenever I make a mistake.
A Boss is the BEST when you enjoy your job and do it perfectly.
Also attached is a good book on working well with others. Please go through it; it will be of good use.
From India, Coimbatore
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Understand, Analyze, Inherit, Share the Knowledge of the Boss.
See your Boss as a friend, and he will be your friend.
If you see him otherwise, you will get otherwise too.
When you are pointing fingers at others, remember that four fingers are pointing back at you.
Do a self-analysis. Understand where the link is broken, and bridge that link.
If your Boss is taking credit, let him. No one can take another's credit for a long time.
Tell him, "I am happy that you are giving me lots of responsibilities, and I am coming out successfully. This is only because of you."
My Ex-Boss was also the BEST. Initially, I had the same problem as you, but later, when I understood, he turned out to be the best Boss for me.
My Current Bosses (Reporting to 4) are really wonderful. They guide, cheer, and correct me whenever I make a mistake.
A Boss is the BEST when you enjoy your job and do it perfectly.
Also attached is a good book on working well with others. Please go through it; it will be of good use.
From India, Coimbatore
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I agree with you, Ravi. People expect more and work less, and they say it is their fate that they have such a boss. Why can't they take a chance to tell him and transform the situation?
My boss is not good? My friend is not good? My father, mother, sister, wife, husband, and finally Sasu (Mother-in-law) – everyone is not good... means you are not good to anyone. What do you say?
Regards,
Shiv
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My boss is not good? My friend is not good? My father, mother, sister, wife, husband, and finally Sasu (Mother-in-law) – everyone is not good... means you are not good to anyone. What do you say?
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Shiv
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Dear Deepti, Maybe you could help us understand in deep abt the situation you faced, and what was the "credit" he took from your hardwork.
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First:
Write to VAFI! :-)
Second:
Kiran, it's nice that you uphold your values. Work is not for pleasing your Head HR but for giving you the mental satisfaction that your hard work has been acknowledged. Being a girl, I know that's what is more important to a girl than money. I suggest, be the way you are - concentrate on your work. If there is an official purpose alone, meet him. Make sure all your work has a documented proof. Why are you getting frustrated? Instead, the girls who visit him at least 50 times must be angry that they are not able to be wise like you. You don't need someone like your Head HR to appreciate your work, right? You know who you are - just keep going on the track you have set. If you are modern or not modern - who cares what your Head HR feels about you... if you want to be modern, you will, if you don't want - you will not. That's your wish, not his need. Chill and relax - and yes - Join VAFI, you will love it!
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Write to VAFI! :-)
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Kiran, it's nice that you uphold your values. Work is not for pleasing your Head HR but for giving you the mental satisfaction that your hard work has been acknowledged. Being a girl, I know that's what is more important to a girl than money. I suggest, be the way you are - concentrate on your work. If there is an official purpose alone, meet him. Make sure all your work has a documented proof. Why are you getting frustrated? Instead, the girls who visit him at least 50 times must be angry that they are not able to be wise like you. You don't need someone like your Head HR to appreciate your work, right? You know who you are - just keep going on the track you have set. If you are modern or not modern - who cares what your Head HR feels about you... if you want to be modern, you will, if you don't want - you will not. That's your wish, not his need. Chill and relax - and yes - Join VAFI, you will love it!
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Dear Ash,
Your responses are good! Suggestions can be made very easily but are tough to implement. "Being a girl - I know that what is more important to a girl than money." I don't agree with this as gender discrimination, whereas personality is important to anybody. Requesting Deep to explain her problem more is good. What is VAFI?
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Shiv
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Your responses are good! Suggestions can be made very easily but are tough to implement. "Being a girl - I know that what is more important to a girl than money." I don't agree with this as gender discrimination, whereas personality is important to anybody. Requesting Deep to explain her problem more is good. What is VAFI?
Regards,
Shiv
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No Shiva - you are absolutely wrong - Majority of the girls have more reasons than money. (I am talking about women who uphold their values - the others don't fall in the definition of being a woman). And - anyone can give suggestions - not necessary that suggestions are like a handbook for "how to use the machine" kind of issues. Implementation is in the mind more than action. If you think it's tough - you will never be able to do it. If you think it's as easy as anything else - you can.
"Train your mind... not your hands."
From India, Madras
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"Train your mind... not your hands."
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And what do you say that people always blame others. Why can’t they take it, Let me try and do the stuff and prove. REgards, Shiv
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I cannot comment without knowing the actual problem Deepti is facing. That is why I have asked her to explain. Maybe she just assumed... maybe it was not that bad to misunderstand that the credit for her work was stolen... or maybe she was actually right in her assumptions. It all depends on the situation and what she will/may/might explain.
Else, simply commenting will not be helpful for her. I will just be supporting her views and not understand the crux of the problem.
From India, Madras
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Else, simply commenting will not be helpful for her. I will just be supporting her views and not understand the crux of the problem.
From India, Madras
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Deepti,
Reminding your tagline:
"An obstacle is something you see when you take your eyes off the goal."
Fight and fight and fight... If you try 100 ways and fail, the 101st way must lead you to success.
Regards,
Shiv
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Reminding your tagline:
"An obstacle is something you see when you take your eyes off the goal."
Fight and fight and fight... If you try 100 ways and fail, the 101st way must lead you to success.
Regards,
Shiv
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My boss is good, understands me well, and supports me. However, as Asha mentioned, you need to explain the situation you faced with your boss so that the seniors in this forum can analyze whether the problem lies with your boss or with you. They can then provide a correct solution for your problem.
From India, Hyderabad
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Managing your boss would require some effort from your side. You need to observe them and understand their behavior, and only then should you play your cards carefully. In case they take credit for your work, ensure that you have sufficient proof (such as emails or any other source) to use when necessary.
Attaching an interesting e-book that I hope would help.
All the best
From India, Madras
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Attaching an interesting e-book that I hope would help.
All the best
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Put yourself in your boss's shoes, then think - it's very easy to comment on issues like this. But exceptions are always there. Nobody is born to be bad. Can you analyze how responsible he is for your tasks? It's not a contest of bosses; why do people ponder their bosses, like "my boss is good or bad," rather, we have to discuss how we manage our boss.
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From India, Gurgaon
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Hi Deepti,
As long as my current boss is concerned, I don't have much to complain about her! Even my previous boss was great to me; he taught me many things and gave me a chance to grow in this corporate world!
Even when he shouted at me, he made it a point that I take it positively, and I did as well. Sometimes you need pressure to perform better than others, so at that time, a shout can do wonders, speaking from my personal experience.
Regarding the issue you are facing, well, it's your professional life, and he can't take much away from you except for the fact that if you initiated a good thing in the organization and he took the credit! Sometimes we just need to cope with this behavior because at the end of the day, you know it's you who is doing all that it takes to get the attention, so feel good about it.
Just notice that you have what it takes to be a good colleague and an HR professional. Simply ignore the fact that he is taking all the credit. You will have your days; this is just the beginning for you.
Once you are actually fed up with your boss, that is the time to call it quits!
Wish you all the best.
From India, Pune
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As long as my current boss is concerned, I don't have much to complain about her! Even my previous boss was great to me; he taught me many things and gave me a chance to grow in this corporate world!
Even when he shouted at me, he made it a point that I take it positively, and I did as well. Sometimes you need pressure to perform better than others, so at that time, a shout can do wonders, speaking from my personal experience.
Regarding the issue you are facing, well, it's your professional life, and he can't take much away from you except for the fact that if you initiated a good thing in the organization and he took the credit! Sometimes we just need to cope with this behavior because at the end of the day, you know it's you who is doing all that it takes to get the attention, so feel good about it.
Just notice that you have what it takes to be a good colleague and an HR professional. Simply ignore the fact that he is taking all the credit. You will have your days; this is just the beginning for you.
Once you are actually fed up with your boss, that is the time to call it quits!
Wish you all the best.
From India, Pune
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Hi Deepti,
Me too shared a similar crisis... Not now, rather I swam across. I realized... If I want to grow in my career, I better manage 'him'. I have not sought advice from any books; moreover, I felt books are too conditional.
I identified this issue some 8 months ago, and now, as of this month, I am okay to work with him (managed).
I ensured that whatever he asked me to do, I did it in 'lightning speed' (more often, I ensure to excite him with the TAT). This helped me to gain his mindshare despite it being tough to 'stay on' with the sweet revenge! Needless to mention the temptation to quit my job and my effort to prove to him that I know the job better!
Thankfully, this effort of mine bore fruit... I redefined TAT, processes, etc., on the job. When I look back, what has worked for me is the fire/revenge to prove to him that I am too good not to miss, which created greater visibility and acceptance among senior management for me. Instead of cribbing, I channeled my effort to take revenge, which culminated in regaining my share. Now, if I quit, it's proven that more than me, somebody missed! It took 7 months of undaunting effort to fight against the odds (maybe that odd man). Thanks to the recession for making me stay tuned to what I had.
What if, after 7 months of my effort, nothing changes... I'll quit! (that was my plan). Fortunately enough, I fought and changed!
Maybe you can proceed with effort or exit!
From India, Hyderabad
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Me too shared a similar crisis... Not now, rather I swam across. I realized... If I want to grow in my career, I better manage 'him'. I have not sought advice from any books; moreover, I felt books are too conditional.
I identified this issue some 8 months ago, and now, as of this month, I am okay to work with him (managed).
I ensured that whatever he asked me to do, I did it in 'lightning speed' (more often, I ensure to excite him with the TAT). This helped me to gain his mindshare despite it being tough to 'stay on' with the sweet revenge! Needless to mention the temptation to quit my job and my effort to prove to him that I know the job better!
Thankfully, this effort of mine bore fruit... I redefined TAT, processes, etc., on the job. When I look back, what has worked for me is the fire/revenge to prove to him that I am too good not to miss, which created greater visibility and acceptance among senior management for me. Instead of cribbing, I channeled my effort to take revenge, which culminated in regaining my share. Now, if I quit, it's proven that more than me, somebody missed! It took 7 months of undaunting effort to fight against the odds (maybe that odd man). Thanks to the recession for making me stay tuned to what I had.
What if, after 7 months of my effort, nothing changes... I'll quit! (that was my plan). Fortunately enough, I fought and changed!
Maybe you can proceed with effort or exit!
From India, Hyderabad
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Mr Azim Khan U Reply to the Post is Fantastic & U call that as Positive Attitude Do all ur Subordinates do that for You, when they arrive at the office
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Hi Dear,
My boss is the best. He helps me to improve and motivates me. He is a very talented, dynamic, and experienced person, but he is also very selfish and unprofessional. If you are facing this problem, try to be more effective and make him favor you. Be professional.
From India, Bhopal
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My boss is the best. He helps me to improve and motivates me. He is a very talented, dynamic, and experienced person, but he is also very selfish and unprofessional. If you are facing this problem, try to be more effective and make him favor you. Be professional.
From India, Bhopal
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I think we don't need to complain. If you need this job, you should try to do something to change the relationship. The boss is always a boss, so you should understand what she is thinking and try to find a balance between the boss and yourselves. Usually, it's not easy to make the boss trust an employee.
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Hi Deepti,
At the outset - sorry for the delay. In one of my previous employments with an MNC, it was an accepted term that subordinates work for the increments of their bosses. This means that if the boss is recognized well, whether he likes it or not, he will recognize his juniors at one time or the other - especially when you are doing the required work for which he gets credit.
Hence, please accept the situation and wherever possible, make it known to others in the organization that you are also contributing to the work of your boss. This can be achieved by marking copies of your mail/correspondence addressed to your boss to others where the matter is linked. One word of caution - please do not rub against your boss - for subordinates cannot choose the boss whereas for the boss, it is the other way. Try it out. Good luck.
Regards,
Dhinakaran
From India, Hyderabad
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At the outset - sorry for the delay. In one of my previous employments with an MNC, it was an accepted term that subordinates work for the increments of their bosses. This means that if the boss is recognized well, whether he likes it or not, he will recognize his juniors at one time or the other - especially when you are doing the required work for which he gets credit.
Hence, please accept the situation and wherever possible, make it known to others in the organization that you are also contributing to the work of your boss. This can be achieved by marking copies of your mail/correspondence addressed to your boss to others where the matter is linked. One word of caution - please do not rub against your boss - for subordinates cannot choose the boss whereas for the boss, it is the other way. Try it out. Good luck.
Regards,
Dhinakaran
From India, Hyderabad
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Dear Uday, Thanks for your views. Infact its not my contribution - the team is a highly motivated group. Pls join us and be a part of VAFI. As of now, the website is under construction.
From India, Madras
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Ash,
This is out of curiosity. Can we put up something like "VMHW" - Voice of Male Harassed by Wife? Just kidding.
VAFI is really a wonderful and needful idea. As I mentioned earlier, I could be an active member. Keep it up. All the best.
Regards,
Shiv
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This is out of curiosity. Can we put up something like "VMHW" - Voice of Male Harassed by Wife? Just kidding.
VAFI is really a wonderful and needful idea. As I mentioned earlier, I could be an active member. Keep it up. All the best.
Regards,
Shiv
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Yes, there are people in organizations who take credit for your work. Observe them for some time. Start working in a strategic way. Have some innovation in your work so that people begin to recognize you as the one capable of doing the work, not your boss or colleague. It is difficult to deal with these kinds of people, but it is not impossible.
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Ms. Deepti,
If you are not working in a leadership role and are working in a team under the supervision of a Team Leader who is responsible for the results of the team and authorized to report to top management on routine matters, why does the thought of taking credit for the work done by you come to mind? You are responsible for your work to your senior; he can appreciate your work if you perform well. By following your boss's instructions and doing your job, what kind of recognition are you seeking? Your boss will acknowledge your work, and if you excel in your job, everyone will eventually recognize and appreciate a good employee.
Sundeep Wadhwa
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If you are not working in a leadership role and are working in a team under the supervision of a Team Leader who is responsible for the results of the team and authorized to report to top management on routine matters, why does the thought of taking credit for the work done by you come to mind? You are responsible for your work to your senior; he can appreciate your work if you perform well. By following your boss's instructions and doing your job, what kind of recognition are you seeking? Your boss will acknowledge your work, and if you excel in your job, everyone will eventually recognize and appreciate a good employee.
Sundeep Wadhwa
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Hi Mamta,
I fully agree with your views. But as an employee, you certainly need some motivation to work. I believe money is not the only factor. In my opinion, recognition is the biggest motivation. There should be some kind of recognition for your hard work. If you keep on working and nobody appreciates you or recognizes your efforts, the momentum cannot be sustained for long.
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Deepti
From India, Delhi
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I fully agree with your views. But as an employee, you certainly need some motivation to work. I believe money is not the only factor. In my opinion, recognition is the biggest motivation. There should be some kind of recognition for your hard work. If you keep on working and nobody appreciates you or recognizes your efforts, the momentum cannot be sustained for long.
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Deepti
From India, Delhi
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Dear Deepti,
You are right. You need appreciation for your work. It depends on the boss if he is of an appreciative nature. Otherwise, you can ask for his feedback on your work and request appreciation. Alternatively, you can choose not to expect it and remember the teachings of the Bhagavad Gita.
Thank you.
From India, New Delhi
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You are right. You need appreciation for your work. It depends on the boss if he is of an appreciative nature. Otherwise, you can ask for his feedback on your work and request appreciation. Alternatively, you can choose not to expect it and remember the teachings of the Bhagavad Gita.
Thank you.
From India, New Delhi
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Dear Deepti,
Don't worry, most bosses are like that. They take credit for everything and blame juniors for any mistakes. It's just the way things are, and you have to tolerate it. Don't worry, focus on your work, and show interest in your job.
Thanks,
J. S. Malik
From India, Delhi
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Don't worry, most bosses are like that. They take credit for everything and blame juniors for any mistakes. It's just the way things are, and you have to tolerate it. Don't worry, focus on your work, and show interest in your job.
Thanks,
J. S. Malik
From India, Delhi
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Hi Deepti,
It's a situation that is quite similar to what arises in my organization, where an employee who excels more and consistently demonstrates good performance is often taken advantage of by their respective bosses.
I would like to gather opinions on a scenario where an employee is suddenly shifted to a lower-profile role that does not align with their interests, especially if this change occurs shortly after joining the organization.
I would greatly appreciate hearing the perspectives of more experienced colleagues on this matter.
Best,
KB
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From India, Madras
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It's a situation that is quite similar to what arises in my organization, where an employee who excels more and consistently demonstrates good performance is often taken advantage of by their respective bosses.
I would like to gather opinions on a scenario where an employee is suddenly shifted to a lower-profile role that does not align with their interests, especially if this change occurs shortly after joining the organization.
I would greatly appreciate hearing the perspectives of more experienced colleagues on this matter.
Best,
KB
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From India, Madras
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"“Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.”"
From India, Bangalore
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Deepti, Please leave it on one string and remove from others, to avoid clogging up the systenm. If not, I will inform the Moderator who will remove them.
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Dear Dipti,
If you are submitting a report, work progress report, or anything online, mark the email to someone else like his boss or the CEO of the company. If you are physically giving reports, try mentioning them when you sit with your seniors.
From India, Bangalore
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If you are submitting a report, work progress report, or anything online, mark the email to someone else like his boss or the CEO of the company. If you are physically giving reports, try mentioning them when you sit with your seniors.
From India, Bangalore
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Hey Deepti,
Yes, I have faced such a problem. But I always make sure I keep doing great work; maybe someday he will realize my potential. If not, he will be a loser, not me. So don't worry about that. Take your time. Work hard and smart.
Sowmya
From India, Hyderabad
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Yes, I have faced such a problem. But I always make sure I keep doing great work; maybe someday he will realize my potential. If not, he will be a loser, not me. So don't worry about that. Take your time. Work hard and smart.
Sowmya
From India, Hyderabad
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Hi Deepti,
It is sad to note that your boss is a peculiar personality. Taking credit for oneself on the basis of others' work is unacceptable, but your boss does it. In my opinion, perhaps due to his qualities of low esteem, which he has developed in him, make him feel inferior. To overcome that, he is working in the opposite direction.
You need to be broad-minded and positive-minded. Ignoring these petty things will elevate you to higher positions. Time is the only healing factor.
Bye for now.
From India, Bangalore
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It is sad to note that your boss is a peculiar personality. Taking credit for oneself on the basis of others' work is unacceptable, but your boss does it. In my opinion, perhaps due to his qualities of low esteem, which he has developed in him, make him feel inferior. To overcome that, he is working in the opposite direction.
You need to be broad-minded and positive-minded. Ignoring these petty things will elevate you to higher positions. Time is the only healing factor.
Bye for now.
From India, Bangalore
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I don't know why people are really interested in evaluating others.
Dear all, what do you say about this: If your boss is not good, unable, and incapable, why can't you be the one to bring about a change?
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Shiv
From India, Bangalore
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Dear all, what do you say about this: If your boss is not good, unable, and incapable, why can't you be the one to bring about a change?
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Shiv
From India, Bangalore
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Hi Deepti,
It depends on the environment and your leadership. When you have good leadership qualities and if you stand separate or impress other bosses above your immediate boss, then there is a lot of scope to come out of this problem.
Secondly, a lady employee might not get along with a lady boss. If your boss is a lady, then you have to use some other method to get your talents noticed by other senior bosses.
Don't badmouth the boss; it may backfire. So play it safe.
If the organization's environment is not good, then bosses like this will have more of an upper hand, and you cannot overcome them. Only where there is transparency and a good work culture, the credit will go to the right person. If you feel everyone is like this in this company, then you have to look for a place in some other company or change departments here itself where you can get recognized.
I feel if you improve your leadership skills and ensure that you are noticed by other heads as a sincere and brilliant worker, then you might have a chance to get credit. For example, your boss may have to disclose who did it if your boss's boss happens to ask more about what you do.
Preferably keep all the work done documented. Maybe you can send all information you prepare by email so that there is proof of who has done it.
Maybe you can try it out.
Kavya
From India, Madras
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It depends on the environment and your leadership. When you have good leadership qualities and if you stand separate or impress other bosses above your immediate boss, then there is a lot of scope to come out of this problem.
Secondly, a lady employee might not get along with a lady boss. If your boss is a lady, then you have to use some other method to get your talents noticed by other senior bosses.
Don't badmouth the boss; it may backfire. So play it safe.
If the organization's environment is not good, then bosses like this will have more of an upper hand, and you cannot overcome them. Only where there is transparency and a good work culture, the credit will go to the right person. If you feel everyone is like this in this company, then you have to look for a place in some other company or change departments here itself where you can get recognized.
I feel if you improve your leadership skills and ensure that you are noticed by other heads as a sincere and brilliant worker, then you might have a chance to get credit. For example, your boss may have to disclose who did it if your boss's boss happens to ask more about what you do.
Preferably keep all the work done documented. Maybe you can send all information you prepare by email so that there is proof of who has done it.
Maybe you can try it out.
Kavya
From India, Madras
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Hi Deepti,
All the bosses are not alike. If somebody is taking credit for his subordinate's work, it means he is not matured to be in that position. That's because of the current organizational behavior. It's quite unfortunate the culture in any organization is driven from top to bottom. Top management does not recognize the hard work but smart work.
Publicity is the mantra to survive in the current day scenario. If someone is not recognizing you, grab the attention. Speak to more people within your team, tell them what you are doing. That will help. All the best.
Regards, Mohanrao
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From India, Bangalore
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All the bosses are not alike. If somebody is taking credit for his subordinate's work, it means he is not matured to be in that position. That's because of the current organizational behavior. It's quite unfortunate the culture in any organization is driven from top to bottom. Top management does not recognize the hard work but smart work.
Publicity is the mantra to survive in the current day scenario. If someone is not recognizing you, grab the attention. Speak to more people within your team, tell them what you are doing. That will help. All the best.
Regards, Mohanrao
9866011409
From India, Bangalore
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