Hi Friends, there is a very beautiful story on “Whether God exists or not”
A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his beard trimmed.
As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation.
They talked about so many things and various subjects.
When they eventually touched on the subject of God, the barber said:
"I don't believe that God exists."
"Why do you say that?" asked the customer. "Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God doesn't exist.
Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people?
Would there be abandoned children?
If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain.
I can't imagine a loving God who would allow all of these things."
The customer thought for a moment, but didn't respond because he didn't want to start an argument.
The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop.
Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard.
He looked dirty and unkempt. The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he said to the barber:
"You know what? Barbers do not exist."
"How can you say that?" asked the surprised barber.
"I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you!"
"No!" the customer exclaimed. "Barbers don't exist because
if they did, there would be no people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man outside."
"Ah, but barbers DO exist! That's what happens when people do not come to me."
"Exactly!" affirmed the customer. "That's the point! God, too, DOES exist!
That's what happens when people do not go to Him and don't look to Him for help.
That's why there's so much pain and suffering in the world."
Regards
Anjalli
From India, Pune
1A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his beard trimmed.
As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation.
They talked about so many things and various subjects.
When they eventually touched on the subject of God, the barber said:
"I don't believe that God exists."
"Why do you say that?" asked the customer. "Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God doesn't exist.
Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people?
Would there be abandoned children?
If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain.
I can't imagine a loving God who would allow all of these things."
The customer thought for a moment, but didn't respond because he didn't want to start an argument.
The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop.
Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard.
He looked dirty and unkempt. The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he said to the barber:
"You know what? Barbers do not exist."
"How can you say that?" asked the surprised barber.
"I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you!"
"No!" the customer exclaimed. "Barbers don't exist because
if they did, there would be no people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man outside."
"Ah, but barbers DO exist! That's what happens when people do not come to me."
"Exactly!" affirmed the customer. "That's the point! God, too, DOES exist!
That's what happens when people do not go to Him and don't look to Him for help.
That's why there's so much pain and suffering in the world."
Regards
Anjalli
From India, Pune
This post clearly shows that many of us do not read previous posts before answering.
The same story was posted by Dennu at
https://www.citehr.com/117318-can-u-...ate-god-3.html
Have a nice day.
Narasimhan
[quote=anjalli;485454]Hi Friends, there is a very beautiful story on “Whether God exists or not”
A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his beard trimmed.
As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation.
From United Kingdom
The same story was posted by Dennu at
https://www.citehr.com/117318-can-u-...ate-god-3.html
Have a nice day.
Narasimhan
[quote=anjalli;485454]Hi Friends, there is a very beautiful story on “Whether God exists or not”
A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his beard trimmed.
As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation.
From United Kingdom
well well...it the original post means expansion of "GOD" here are my suggestions :idea:Goodness over demons :idea:Greatness over difficulty :idea:Goodness over destruction :-P
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Abbreviation of GOD is
G = Generation through Brahma (a pure and Divine World)
O = Operation through Vishnu (of the world created through Brahma)
D = Destruction through Shankar (impurities of the world)
All the activities (Generation, Operation & Destruction) are achieved by Supreme Soul(Parambramh) the Supreme Father of all souls (Bramh), to whom all the individuals irrespective of their religions called as father or parents (i.e. either God Father, Mata-Pita/ Parvaridgar) and his form is shown as a point of light (Light, Divine Light, Noor, Akhand Jyothi, Jyothirlingam etc.).
From India, Hyderabad
G = Generation through Brahma (a pure and Divine World)
O = Operation through Vishnu (of the world created through Brahma)
D = Destruction through Shankar (impurities of the world)
All the activities (Generation, Operation & Destruction) are achieved by Supreme Soul(Parambramh) the Supreme Father of all souls (Bramh), to whom all the individuals irrespective of their religions called as father or parents (i.e. either God Father, Mata-Pita/ Parvaridgar) and his form is shown as a point of light (Light, Divine Light, Noor, Akhand Jyothi, Jyothirlingam etc.).
From India, Hyderabad
Generally people mix God (Supreme Authority, Divine Light) with all the human gods (saints / priests / some divine souls), animal gods (elephants, cows, monkey etc.), nature (some trees and the like), deities (Brahma, Vishnu, Shankar, their various forms-Avatars, and their family members) and thinks that all these forms one and same.
I think, this may be the reason for the people raising the question on existence of God.
From India, Hyderabad
I think, this may be the reason for the people raising the question on existence of God.
From India, Hyderabad
Dear Abhishek,
I am not to argue with you or put pressure upon you to believe in God. But in reality, entire creation (that we can see and realise) rotates on two powers. They are Science and Spirituality.
Our body also consists of these two powers.
The micro point of science is Atom and of spirituality is Atma (soul)
Atom can be divided into three particles i.e. Electron, Neutron and Proton and Atma can also be difined into three core powers Mind, Intellect and Resolves(sanskar)
It is the soul (Atma) that realizes the quality (hard, soft, sweet, hot, sour, cold, warm etc.) of an item. In the absense of soul the body (dead body) can not realise these qualities.
If you believe in the existence of a soul in your body, by which all of your activities are going on, then only I can proceed further, to explain in the existing of God, the Supreme Father of all souls.
I am waiting for your response in this thread.
Regards,
From India, Hyderabad
I am not to argue with you or put pressure upon you to believe in God. But in reality, entire creation (that we can see and realise) rotates on two powers. They are Science and Spirituality.
Our body also consists of these two powers.
The micro point of science is Atom and of spirituality is Atma (soul)
Atom can be divided into three particles i.e. Electron, Neutron and Proton and Atma can also be difined into three core powers Mind, Intellect and Resolves(sanskar)
It is the soul (Atma) that realizes the quality (hard, soft, sweet, hot, sour, cold, warm etc.) of an item. In the absense of soul the body (dead body) can not realise these qualities.
If you believe in the existence of a soul in your body, by which all of your activities are going on, then only I can proceed further, to explain in the existing of God, the Supreme Father of all souls.
I am waiting for your response in this thread.
Regards,
From India, Hyderabad
Dear Shiva,
I was wondering what would be the purpose of your question...
hmmm nyways different people will have different definition abt God. If you ask me i'd abbreviate him as a Good Old Dude...coz he's so dear to me... :-)
- binzy
From India, Bangalore
I was wondering what would be the purpose of your question...
hmmm nyways different people will have different definition abt God. If you ask me i'd abbreviate him as a Good Old Dude...coz he's so dear to me... :-)
- binzy
From India, Bangalore
Even I was wondering till now for the existance of God even though I born and brought up in a religious hindu family, and followed all rituals. now at the age of 30 I recognized the real God, who died on Calvary cross for our sin, raised from the dead and still living. He said "I am the way, the truth and the life." There is no way other than him to enter into the heaven.
I got answer to all my question in the word of God i.e. Bible.
When you are alone in the life, when u find urself helpless, when you find no way to solve ur problems, when u r sick you call him and in no time he will be with u
He is the loving God, does not want anything from you excet ur heart
From India, Mumbai
I got answer to all my question in the word of God i.e. Bible.
When you are alone in the life, when u find urself helpless, when you find no way to solve ur problems, when u r sick you call him and in no time he will be with u
He is the loving God, does not want anything from you excet ur heart
From India, Mumbai
Can i add 2 this abbreviation? Generator = Shri Brahma:) Operator = Shri Hari Vishnu:icon4: Destroyer = Shiv Shankar:evil: Regards
From India, Jaipur
From India, Jaipur
Dear Shiva,
I don't have that much of knowledge to abbrevate GOD.
I will tell you vivekanada's point of view. please find the below answers' of Swamiji.
God alone knows God
whenever you think about God, the thinking itself is a form made of awareness or mind, even though you claim that you are thinking about formless God. You can never think any thing, which is formless because your thinking itself is a form. The form may have some specific boundaries like a statue. The form may not have specific boundaries like air or water. But the air or water also has some regular or irregular boundaries since the air or water has certain limits. You call the space as formless object. But the space has some limitations somewhere and you do not perceive those limits. Such limits may not be perceived but certainly exist. Therefore, the concept of your formless object has some boundaries, which are either irregular or not perceived. When you think God as awareness (Chit), the awareness is mind, which is nervous energy. Energy is in the form of waves and thus cannot be formless. According to the special theory of relativity of Einstein, the space is also a form of energy because space exhibits the property of bending. In that case, the space also cannot be formless. Even if you consider the space as infinite vacuum, you are aware of the space. Such awareness itself means that space has become a form of awareness or mental energy. Therefore, strictly speaking there is no formless object in the creation. You are calling the object, which has either irregular or infinite boundaries, which are imagined, as formless. Since, such formless object also is a form in strict sense. Formless concept is impossible.
Therefore, whether you say that God created the space or God created the energy in the beginning, both statements mean the same because space is also a form of energy only. Veda said that Para Brahman created the space in the beginning (Atmana Akasah..). The Veda says again that Para Brahman created energy in the beginning (Tat Tejo..). Both the Vedic statements mean the same in terms of the latest concept of Science. However, let such space or energy be called as formless God in your language. Even to think such formless God, it becomes very very difficult for any ordinary human being. Even a scholar cannot maintain such concept in his mind for a long time. Even if you maintain such concept, such God is not the absolute God because absolute God is completely unimaginable as per Veda and Gita (Yasyaa matam…., Mamtu Veda Na…). God imagined as space or awareness (mental energy) is not the absolute the God, who is beyond space and awareness. Veda says that God created space. Veda says that God is beyond awareness. The creator is always beyond the creation. Even in the absence of the creation, the creator must exist. According to Brahma Sutras, God is the cause of this Universe as creator and is the material cause also. The pot maker is the creator of the pot. The mud is the material cause of the pot. Even in the absence of pot, the pot maker and the mud exist. Therefore, God existed even before the creation of the Universe. The pot maker and mud exists even after the destruction of the pot. Similarly, after the destruction of the world also God must exist. Similarly God must exist before the creation of the space and after the dissolution of the space. You can never imagine the situation, which is before the creation or after dissolution of space. Your intelligence cannot cross the special dimensions and therefore cannot cross the concept of space. That means you can never imagine the God. Veda says that God alone knows God (Brahma vit Brahmaiva…). Therefore, when you imagine God as the all-pervading space, such imagination itself is an item of creation only. Such imagination is only the incarnation of the God. When you imagine Him as space, God has entered the space and God is in the space. Similarly, if you imagine God as all pervading energy, you have imagined the energy only in which God is present. Therefore, you perceive God as space or inert energy or mental energy (awareness) and such form of God is only the incarnation of God in the form of space or inert energy or awareness. This means you can perceive only the incarnation of God and never the absolute God.
- Swami Vivekananda
Regards,
jagan:)
I don't have that much of knowledge to abbrevate GOD.
I will tell you vivekanada's point of view. please find the below answers' of Swamiji.
God alone knows God
whenever you think about God, the thinking itself is a form made of awareness or mind, even though you claim that you are thinking about formless God. You can never think any thing, which is formless because your thinking itself is a form. The form may have some specific boundaries like a statue. The form may not have specific boundaries like air or water. But the air or water also has some regular or irregular boundaries since the air or water has certain limits. You call the space as formless object. But the space has some limitations somewhere and you do not perceive those limits. Such limits may not be perceived but certainly exist. Therefore, the concept of your formless object has some boundaries, which are either irregular or not perceived. When you think God as awareness (Chit), the awareness is mind, which is nervous energy. Energy is in the form of waves and thus cannot be formless. According to the special theory of relativity of Einstein, the space is also a form of energy because space exhibits the property of bending. In that case, the space also cannot be formless. Even if you consider the space as infinite vacuum, you are aware of the space. Such awareness itself means that space has become a form of awareness or mental energy. Therefore, strictly speaking there is no formless object in the creation. You are calling the object, which has either irregular or infinite boundaries, which are imagined, as formless. Since, such formless object also is a form in strict sense. Formless concept is impossible.
Therefore, whether you say that God created the space or God created the energy in the beginning, both statements mean the same because space is also a form of energy only. Veda said that Para Brahman created the space in the beginning (Atmana Akasah..). The Veda says again that Para Brahman created energy in the beginning (Tat Tejo..). Both the Vedic statements mean the same in terms of the latest concept of Science. However, let such space or energy be called as formless God in your language. Even to think such formless God, it becomes very very difficult for any ordinary human being. Even a scholar cannot maintain such concept in his mind for a long time. Even if you maintain such concept, such God is not the absolute God because absolute God is completely unimaginable as per Veda and Gita (Yasyaa matam…., Mamtu Veda Na…). God imagined as space or awareness (mental energy) is not the absolute the God, who is beyond space and awareness. Veda says that God created space. Veda says that God is beyond awareness. The creator is always beyond the creation. Even in the absence of the creation, the creator must exist. According to Brahma Sutras, God is the cause of this Universe as creator and is the material cause also. The pot maker is the creator of the pot. The mud is the material cause of the pot. Even in the absence of pot, the pot maker and the mud exist. Therefore, God existed even before the creation of the Universe. The pot maker and mud exists even after the destruction of the pot. Similarly, after the destruction of the world also God must exist. Similarly God must exist before the creation of the space and after the dissolution of the space. You can never imagine the situation, which is before the creation or after dissolution of space. Your intelligence cannot cross the special dimensions and therefore cannot cross the concept of space. That means you can never imagine the God. Veda says that God alone knows God (Brahma vit Brahmaiva…). Therefore, when you imagine God as the all-pervading space, such imagination itself is an item of creation only. Such imagination is only the incarnation of the God. When you imagine Him as space, God has entered the space and God is in the space. Similarly, if you imagine God as all pervading energy, you have imagined the energy only in which God is present. Therefore, you perceive God as space or inert energy or mental energy (awareness) and such form of God is only the incarnation of God in the form of space or inert energy or awareness. This means you can perceive only the incarnation of God and never the absolute God.
- Swami Vivekananda
Regards,
jagan:)
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