I'm seeing lots of EPF-related queries and answers from the experts in this community. Hence, I'd like to discuss my problem and request a genuine solution as I think I'm in trouble. I previously worked in an organization for three years and left to join another organization (X) on 3rd October 2016. I had a UAN, but they generated a new one even after submitting Form 11 due to some system update or something like that, as they told me. I resigned from X after a month on 7th November 2016 and joined another company (Y) on 10th November 2016. However, the previous company (X) didn't accept my resignation by then. After a week, on 18th November, I resigned from Y and rejoined X on 28th November since they didn't accept my resignation. X doesn't know about Y. They internally showed me on leave, gave me a full month's salary for November, and deducted and deposited the PF amount into the newly created UAN (by them in October after joining).
Meanwhile, Y wants to pay me for the 8-10 days I worked with them, but I didn't want that, so I didn't send them the documents they asked me to submit for a smooth exit. They contacted me until the end of December, asking for the documents for exit and F&F, but I didn't provide any as I was scared of potential dual employment issues. Since 1st January, company Y hasn't contacted me, so I don't know the current status of this case. But I suspect they may have found ways to resolve it. However, I'm worried about the PF situation. Even if Y doesn't pay me a salary, they have to give me PF, and they had already informed me of that in December. How do I know if they have given PF, where it was credited, and when? They are not answering my calls anymore, as expected.
I know it's a complex situation, but I would be grateful if experts or veterans in this field could help me out with this mess I have created. Thank you in anticipation.
From India, Kolkata
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1Meanwhile, Y wants to pay me for the 8-10 days I worked with them, but I didn't want that, so I didn't send them the documents they asked me to submit for a smooth exit. They contacted me until the end of December, asking for the documents for exit and F&F, but I didn't provide any as I was scared of potential dual employment issues. Since 1st January, company Y hasn't contacted me, so I don't know the current status of this case. But I suspect they may have found ways to resolve it. However, I'm worried about the PF situation. Even if Y doesn't pay me a salary, they have to give me PF, and they had already informed me of that in December. How do I know if they have given PF, where it was credited, and when? They are not answering my calls anymore, as expected.
I know it's a complex situation, but I would be grateful if experts or veterans in this field could help me out with this mess I have created. Thank you in anticipation.
From India, Kolkata
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Based on the scenario you've described, here are some steps you can take to address your concerns regarding the PF situation with Company Y:
1. Contact Company Y's HR Department: Try reaching out to Company Y's HR department via email or any other available communication channel. Clearly explain your situation and inquire about the status of your PF deposit. Request details on when and where the PF amount was credited.
2. Check Your PF Account: Log in to the EPFO portal using your UAN and password to check if any PF contributions have been made by Company Y. You can track your PF transactions, contributions, and balance through the portal.
3. Verify UAN Linking: As you mentioned, if Company Y tried to create a new UAN for you, they should have encountered your existing UAN linked to your PAN. This may prompt them to deposit the PF amount into the correct UAN.
4. Coordinate with Company X: If you have a previous UAN that is not being used, you can request Company X to link your PF contributions to that UAN moving forward. Ensure transparency with both companies to avoid any discrepancies.
5. Seek Legal Advice if Needed: If you face challenges in resolving the PF issue or suspect any non-compliance, consider seeking legal advice from a labor law expert. They can guide you on the best course of action to protect your rights and ensure compliance.
6. Stay Proactive: Keep track of all communications, documents, and interactions related to your PF contributions. Follow up with both companies regularly to ensure timely resolution and avoid any misunderstandings.
By following these steps and maintaining open communication with both companies, you can navigate the dual employment situation and address your PF concerns effectively. Remember to prioritize compliance and transparency to safeguard your financial interests.
From India, Gurugram
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1. Contact Company Y's HR Department: Try reaching out to Company Y's HR department via email or any other available communication channel. Clearly explain your situation and inquire about the status of your PF deposit. Request details on when and where the PF amount was credited.
2. Check Your PF Account: Log in to the EPFO portal using your UAN and password to check if any PF contributions have been made by Company Y. You can track your PF transactions, contributions, and balance through the portal.
3. Verify UAN Linking: As you mentioned, if Company Y tried to create a new UAN for you, they should have encountered your existing UAN linked to your PAN. This may prompt them to deposit the PF amount into the correct UAN.
4. Coordinate with Company X: If you have a previous UAN that is not being used, you can request Company X to link your PF contributions to that UAN moving forward. Ensure transparency with both companies to avoid any discrepancies.
5. Seek Legal Advice if Needed: If you face challenges in resolving the PF issue or suspect any non-compliance, consider seeking legal advice from a labor law expert. They can guide you on the best course of action to protect your rights and ensure compliance.
6. Stay Proactive: Keep track of all communications, documents, and interactions related to your PF contributions. Follow up with both companies regularly to ensure timely resolution and avoid any misunderstandings.
By following these steps and maintaining open communication with both companies, you can navigate the dual employment situation and address your PF concerns effectively. Remember to prioritize compliance and transparency to safeguard your financial interests.
From India, Gurugram
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