I am new to this. Please guide me.
Do I need to deduct ESI for people who cross the 10000 mark for at least 3 months? Is this mandatory? There are some employees who cross the 10000 mark in one month and not in another month. How should I handle this situation?
From India, Bangalore
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Do I need to deduct ESI for people who cross the 10000 mark for at least 3 months? Is this mandatory? There are some employees who cross the 10000 mark in one month and not in another month. How should I handle this situation?
From India, Bangalore
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Dear,
A person whose salary is more than 10k per month at the time of joining will not be a member of ESI, so no deduction will be there. Suppose someone is getting 9500 in the month of April 2009, and his salary increased by 1000 wef May 2009 onwards, so now his salary is 10500. He will continue to be a member up to September 2009, and the deduction will be made on 10500 until September 2009. After that, he will be exempted from ESI. Employees will be exempted from ESI after March or September if there is an increase in between.
Thanks,
J S Malik
From India, Delhi
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174A person whose salary is more than 10k per month at the time of joining will not be a member of ESI, so no deduction will be there. Suppose someone is getting 9500 in the month of April 2009, and his salary increased by 1000 wef May 2009 onwards, so now his salary is 10500. He will continue to be a member up to September 2009, and the deduction will be made on 10500 until September 2009. After that, he will be exempted from ESI. Employees will be exempted from ESI after March or September if there is an increase in between.
Thanks,
J S Malik
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whats the full form of esic?? And can anyone tell me what is pf challan and esic challan?? Hema
From India, Mumbai
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From India, Mumbai
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Dear Hema Jhangiani,
Are you a fresher or working anywhere? For abbreviations and relevant queries, you have to search on the internet and find them rather than waiting for someone to reply to your question here. Try using Google search.
Are you an MBA? By now, you should have known these terms as you would have done a paper on PM & IR.
When time permits, please search the sites of EPF and ESI. At the top of this page, type keywords 'ESIC', 'PF challan', etc., and search. Numerous records would be fetched, and you can read as much as you want and download them. If your search does not yield results, then you can ask here.
CiteHR Members are sure to ignore questions like what is attendance, loss of pay, payroll, etc. So don't get disappointed.
Spend time learning and acquiring knowledge. Soon you will become addicted to this site. All the best.
Regards, Chandru
From India, Madras
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Are you a fresher or working anywhere? For abbreviations and relevant queries, you have to search on the internet and find them rather than waiting for someone to reply to your question here. Try using Google search.
Are you an MBA? By now, you should have known these terms as you would have done a paper on PM & IR.
When time permits, please search the sites of EPF and ESI. At the top of this page, type keywords 'ESIC', 'PF challan', etc., and search. Numerous records would be fetched, and you can read as much as you want and download them. If your search does not yield results, then you can ask here.
CiteHR Members are sure to ignore questions like what is attendance, loss of pay, payroll, etc. So don't get disappointed.
Spend time learning and acquiring knowledge. Soon you will become addicted to this site. All the best.
Regards, Chandru
From India, Madras
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Dear Hema,
ESIC stands for Employees' State Insurance Corporation, set up by the Employees' State Insurance Act to provide medical and other benefits to employees.
A challan is a kind of pay-in slip used to remit payments to the Government Treasury, specifying the account head to which the amount is to be credited. The Employees' Provident Fund Organisation and the Employees' State Insurance Corporation have designed their own challans showing various particulars pertaining to remittance. The respective challans are used exclusively for such remittances.
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Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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ESIC stands for Employees' State Insurance Corporation, set up by the Employees' State Insurance Act to provide medical and other benefits to employees.
A challan is a kind of pay-in slip used to remit payments to the Government Treasury, specifying the account head to which the amount is to be credited. The Employees' Provident Fund Organisation and the Employees' State Insurance Corporation have designed their own challans showing various particulars pertaining to remittance. The respective challans are used exclusively for such remittances.
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Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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Hai Hema ESIC ( Employee State Insurance Coropration). i am sending here with the attachement of PF challan,ESIC Challan And form 12A Monthly return of PF. Thank You, Gautam +919897645659
From India, Rudarpur
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From India, Rudarpur
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hi chandru, pl dont be too harsh on any one or any query/question, may be it looked quite foolish/unimportant to you! Let people ask...its better and healthy. Regds, R K Sarkar
From India, Hyderabad
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From India, Hyderabad
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Mr. Mallick,
As per your earlier post, I need some suggestions. If PF is deducted from the basic salary without including HRA, Special Allowance, etc., then how will the HRA and Special Allowance be added during ESI deduction? We are deducting ESI from the basic salary. If there are any changes in the rules, please guide me. I am working in a manufacturing company in Orissa as an HR.
From India, Delhi
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As per your earlier post, I need some suggestions. If PF is deducted from the basic salary without including HRA, Special Allowance, etc., then how will the HRA and Special Allowance be added during ESI deduction? We are deducting ESI from the basic salary. If there are any changes in the rules, please guide me. I am working in a manufacturing company in Orissa as an HR.
From India, Delhi
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Dear Sarkar,
There is nothing like being 'too harsh or soft'. Very often I have come across replies in this forum as 'please search and if not available ask here', 'this is basic terminology and need not be asked here', 'search through the archives', 'ask something worthy', 'this platform is for discussion on problems, case study, grievances', ...... of course you would have also read similar comments. Do you think those comments are rude?
Many senior members do lament over such attitudes of 'ready to serve', 'order ready', 'get me please', 'send by email', 'spoon feed me'. I thought it was good to tell the new entrant about what to do and how to search in citehr. Ask the senior moderators, they would agree that I am right.
If this sounds harsh to you, good heavens... what else to say? You could have been prompt enough to be an early bird to reply first instead of being the 10th person in line. That too your reply had no relevance to query other than criticism. Your status shows you have done only 12 posts in one year and not participative. Why?
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Chandru
From India, Madras
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There is nothing like being 'too harsh or soft'. Very often I have come across replies in this forum as 'please search and if not available ask here', 'this is basic terminology and need not be asked here', 'search through the archives', 'ask something worthy', 'this platform is for discussion on problems, case study, grievances', ...... of course you would have also read similar comments. Do you think those comments are rude?
Many senior members do lament over such attitudes of 'ready to serve', 'order ready', 'get me please', 'send by email', 'spoon feed me'. I thought it was good to tell the new entrant about what to do and how to search in citehr. Ask the senior moderators, they would agree that I am right.
If this sounds harsh to you, good heavens... what else to say? You could have been prompt enough to be an early bird to reply first instead of being the 10th person in line. That too your reply had no relevance to query other than criticism. Your status shows you have done only 12 posts in one year and not participative. Why?
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Chandru
From India, Madras
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Dear all,
First of all, I would suggest that Mr. Chandru and Mr. Sarkar do not fight each other. We are here to share knowledge. Most of our friends do not try to search for the problem on Cite HR; instead, they want a readymade answer. It's not a good habit.
Dear Ratikant, PF and ESI are separate acts, and you cannot compare them. PF should be deducted on basic and HRA, whereas ESI is deducted on gross salary. Why are you comparing ESI with PF? Both acts do not have any relation with each other.
Thank you,
J. S. Malik
From India, Delhi
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First of all, I would suggest that Mr. Chandru and Mr. Sarkar do not fight each other. We are here to share knowledge. Most of our friends do not try to search for the problem on Cite HR; instead, they want a readymade answer. It's not a good habit.
Dear Ratikant, PF and ESI are separate acts, and you cannot compare them. PF should be deducted on basic and HRA, whereas ESI is deducted on gross salary. Why are you comparing ESI with PF? Both acts do not have any relation with each other.
Thank you,
J. S. Malik
From India, Delhi
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Hi Chandru!
It seems you are very angry. Please cool and calm down. Mr. Malik is right; we should not fight and are here only to share knowledge. Like me, thousands have benefited from the information, participative discussions, and guidance from seniors posted on this site, without even making a single post. Nonetheless, keep posting, stay cheerful, and take care of yourself, friend.
Warm Regards,
R K Sarkar
From India, Hyderabad
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It seems you are very angry. Please cool and calm down. Mr. Malik is right; we should not fight and are here only to share knowledge. Like me, thousands have benefited from the information, participative discussions, and guidance from seniors posted on this site, without even making a single post. Nonetheless, keep posting, stay cheerful, and take care of yourself, friend.
Warm Regards,
R K Sarkar
From India, Hyderabad
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