Dear All,
I am working in a Software Company of North India as a HR, I am the only HR person here and reporting directly to the directors, we have small staff of 50 employees, and my problem is with my directors, they have taken total control over each & every activity, I am not authorized to take any decisions, not even small issue like permission for half day leave to the employee, scheduling of any interview ,even I am not allowed to take a print out of official letters , every time I require to email them and request for the printout ,also for monthly stationery stock we need to take permission from them , if our admin person books any ticket for official purpose then also they interfere , many times they directly make calls to the travel agents and due to this everybody is frustrated with them. Presently they only employ me to resolve their bills related problems and with technical staff to manage hardware stock. Usually they use very harsh and loud tone while discussions, many times they have insulted technical staff, Company policies are also very inequitable, as per company policy if we need Tea / Coffee, then we have to manage by our own, now we are facing the same problem with the drinking water. Now I am feeling so much frustrated, many times I have discussed employees problems and other general issues with them , but every time I got the same answer “ No need to get in to all this, I/We have more important work to do and I/we don't have time to answer your stupid interview questions.”
I am frustrated, what should I do?:?:
Please suggest.
Thanks,
S. Ratna
From India, Lucknow
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I am working in a Software Company of North India as a HR, I am the only HR person here and reporting directly to the directors, we have small staff of 50 employees, and my problem is with my directors, they have taken total control over each & every activity, I am not authorized to take any decisions, not even small issue like permission for half day leave to the employee, scheduling of any interview ,even I am not allowed to take a print out of official letters , every time I require to email them and request for the printout ,also for monthly stationery stock we need to take permission from them , if our admin person books any ticket for official purpose then also they interfere , many times they directly make calls to the travel agents and due to this everybody is frustrated with them. Presently they only employ me to resolve their bills related problems and with technical staff to manage hardware stock. Usually they use very harsh and loud tone while discussions, many times they have insulted technical staff, Company policies are also very inequitable, as per company policy if we need Tea / Coffee, then we have to manage by our own, now we are facing the same problem with the drinking water. Now I am feeling so much frustrated, many times I have discussed employees problems and other general issues with them , but every time I got the same answer “ No need to get in to all this, I/We have more important work to do and I/we don't have time to answer your stupid interview questions.”
I am frustrated, what should I do?:?:
Please suggest.
Thanks,
S. Ratna
From India, Lucknow
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Dear Sunita Ratna,
It is clear that you are in some kind of cheap, lala-type organization where there is no respect for HR at all. It is very shocking to know that for taking a single printout, you have to seek permission, and there are also no employee recreation facilities. Well, you have had a very tough HR experience.
Don't get frustrated; look for a better organization than a lala-type one, but don't leave your current job until you secure a new one.
Best Wishes,
Regards,
Pankaj Chandan
From India, New delhi
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13It is clear that you are in some kind of cheap, lala-type organization where there is no respect for HR at all. It is very shocking to know that for taking a single printout, you have to seek permission, and there are also no employee recreation facilities. Well, you have had a very tough HR experience.
Don't get frustrated; look for a better organization than a lala-type one, but don't leave your current job until you secure a new one.
Best Wishes,
Regards,
Pankaj Chandan
From India, New delhi
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Dear Sunita, what Pankaj said it right, search the job in any good company.... it seems there is no career growth in your present job. All the best Dilshad
From India, Hyderabad
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From India, Hyderabad
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Hi Ratna,
I can understand your emotional feelings;
You're in Fight or Flight situation,
Does your director always behave in this way or because of rescission they are doing this?
Form How many days/years are u working there?
Regards,
Rsritha.
From India, Hyderabad
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I can understand your emotional feelings;
You're in Fight or Flight situation,
Does your director always behave in this way or because of rescission they are doing this?
Form How many days/years are u working there?
Regards,
Rsritha.
From India, Hyderabad
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Sunita,
I have a couple of questions before I respond to your initial situation.
1) Are there any employee issues, such as high employee turnover, absenteeism, etc.?
2) Are there any directors that support HR and promote good leadership practices?
3) Who do the directors report to?
4) What are the goals and challenges for the business?
From Canada, London
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I have a couple of questions before I respond to your initial situation.
1) Are there any employee issues, such as high employee turnover, absenteeism, etc.?
2) Are there any directors that support HR and promote good leadership practices?
3) Who do the directors report to?
4) What are the goals and challenges for the business?
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Sunita, I think it is normal practice in Small companies, where HR is kept for following the instruction of Directors. The best thing will be look for good job and say them bye bye. Regards, Om Prakash I am working in a Software Company of North India as a HR, I am the only HR person here and reporting directly to the directors, we have small staff of 50 employees, and my problem is with my directors, they have taken total control over each & every activity, I am not authorized to take any decisions, not even small issue like permission for half day leave to the employee, scheduling of any interview ,even I am not allowed to take a print out of official letters , every time I require to email them and request for the printout ,also for monthly stationery stock we need to take permission from them , if our admin person books any ticket for official purpose then also they interfere , many times they directly make calls to the travel agents and due to this everybody is frustrated with them. Presently they only employ me to resolve their bills related problems and with technical staff to manage hardware stock. Usually they use very harsh and loud tone while discussions, many times they have insulted technical staff, Company policies are also very inequitable, as per company policy if we need Tea / Coffee, then we have to manage by our own, now we are facing the same problem with the drinking water. Now I am feeling so much frustrated, many times I have discussed employees problems and other general issues with them , but every time I got the same answer “ No need to get in to all this, I/We have more important work to do and I/we don't have time to answer your stupid interview questions.”
I am frustrated, what should I do?:?:
Please suggest.
Thanks,
S. Ratna[/quote]
From India, Vadodara
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I am frustrated, what should I do?:?:
Please suggest.
Thanks,
S. Ratna[/quote]
From India, Vadodara
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Hi Ratna,
Firstly, appreciate your patience enduring the situation and writing in to seek suggestions. Here are my thoughts (adding to what my other friends on this forum have said):
1. Is there a job description that outlines your role in the company?
2. Have you asked questions to ascertain the role you need to play? Being the HR person can mean anything - I know of an organization with an HR professional who played the role of a legal/admin consultant and did nothing related to HR. Find out.
3. What is the attrition rate? What keeps the other employees sticking around (in case they are)?
4. Do you know what triggered this behavior on the part of the directors?
Other questions directed to you:
1. What learning can you take away from this situation?
2. What does this situation say about you? Reflect on your communication style and what shift in your communication you can bring about to achieve your goals. Flexibility in communication is usually the key to unlock such situations. Experiment, Learn, Enjoy.
3. Finally, the world is a big place, opportunities are plenty. If you feel you have made all the attempts, look for an alternative.
And as Pankaj says, get hold of an alternative and then move out.
Wish you all the best.
Regards, Vin
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Firstly, appreciate your patience enduring the situation and writing in to seek suggestions. Here are my thoughts (adding to what my other friends on this forum have said):
1. Is there a job description that outlines your role in the company?
2. Have you asked questions to ascertain the role you need to play? Being the HR person can mean anything - I know of an organization with an HR professional who played the role of a legal/admin consultant and did nothing related to HR. Find out.
3. What is the attrition rate? What keeps the other employees sticking around (in case they are)?
4. Do you know what triggered this behavior on the part of the directors?
Other questions directed to you:
1. What learning can you take away from this situation?
2. What does this situation say about you? Reflect on your communication style and what shift in your communication you can bring about to achieve your goals. Flexibility in communication is usually the key to unlock such situations. Experiment, Learn, Enjoy.
3. Finally, the world is a big place, opportunities are plenty. If you feel you have made all the attempts, look for an alternative.
And as Pankaj says, get hold of an alternative and then move out.
Wish you all the best.
Regards, Vin
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Hi Sunita,
I totally agree with Omprakash and Chandan. Don't be stressed out. Look out for change and say Adios to make your directors realize the importance of HR. You will find these kinds of cheap mentality directors in some organizations who are not aware of the ins and outs of integrity and ethics in business.
Lady, you need a change...!
Cheers and good luck...!
From India, Bangalore
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I totally agree with Omprakash and Chandan. Don't be stressed out. Look out for change and say Adios to make your directors realize the importance of HR. You will find these kinds of cheap mentality directors in some organizations who are not aware of the ins and outs of integrity and ethics in business.
Lady, you need a change...!
Cheers and good luck...!
From India, Bangalore
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Try to get rid of this type of organization where you do not have any authority. But do not leave the organization till you get the new job. Regards, Digpal
From India, New+Delhi
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Dear Ratna,
As everybody has said that you need to change your organization, I feel that they are right from their point of view.
One more suggestion - By the time you change the job, do whatever your boss says. If the instructions are wrong, he'll automatically fall back. :)
Thank you.
From India, Vadodara
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As everybody has said that you need to change your organization, I feel that they are right from their point of view.
One more suggestion - By the time you change the job, do whatever your boss says. If the instructions are wrong, he'll automatically fall back. :)
Thank you.
From India, Vadodara
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Sunita,
In some organizations, we have found this scenario. It is not entirely the mistake of the management; they may have also previously experienced setbacks by delegating authority, or they may be of that nature. If all the directors are behaving in this manner, there may be a significant underlying issue, making it challenging for you to implement change within the organization. You have made diligent efforts to instigate a cultural shift in the organization, but it appears that nothing is effective. Therefore, it would be advisable for you to consider changing your workplace, as staying may result in you adapting to that culture and potentially hindering your career.
Thanks and regards,
Kameswarao
From India, Hyderabad
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In some organizations, we have found this scenario. It is not entirely the mistake of the management; they may have also previously experienced setbacks by delegating authority, or they may be of that nature. If all the directors are behaving in this manner, there may be a significant underlying issue, making it challenging for you to implement change within the organization. You have made diligent efforts to instigate a cultural shift in the organization, but it appears that nothing is effective. Therefore, it would be advisable for you to consider changing your workplace, as staying may result in you adapting to that culture and potentially hindering your career.
Thanks and regards,
Kameswarao
From India, Hyderabad
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Hi Ratna,
I wonder what made them hire you. May I ask about your responsibilities that they described before hiring you?
Anyways, it's very clear that it's an owner-driven company. Change can take place, but it should be through a source that can convince the Directors.
I believe that at this point, the business handled is quite less, so they have time to involve themselves in other matters not related to their CORE activity.
OR
The ability to manage or do business is lacking because maybe it was a family-run organization. In such situations, everyone is involved in the matters of the business, and they feel that even the smallest thing must be under their control.
OR
They don't have a clear vision for the business, and the directors are not clear of their responsibilities. They may be thinking of profits, but not profits to be gained... they are thinking of internal profits :-)
What I could ask you again is, what was the role described to you when you were hired? May I know how many years of experience you possess? What was your previous experience?
See if you'd have any chances of changing the mindset of the Senior Management, quitting can be considered a second option. Is there a mentor who frequently discusses with the Directors?
Please understand that this experience will only be a learning experience for you. Don't be disappointed. Wait for a while and see if the Directors are willing to even listen to what you have got to say - like instead of saying directly that they are involved in checking stationery stock, or other small things, tell them you will take charge of checking it and take care of administration (these are baby steps to see if they are willing to delegate from the least important tasks).
If nothing seems to be going okay, then please look out for an opportunity with a company that can manage and foster your creative thoughts :-)
From India, Madras
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I wonder what made them hire you. May I ask about your responsibilities that they described before hiring you?
Anyways, it's very clear that it's an owner-driven company. Change can take place, but it should be through a source that can convince the Directors.
I believe that at this point, the business handled is quite less, so they have time to involve themselves in other matters not related to their CORE activity.
OR
The ability to manage or do business is lacking because maybe it was a family-run organization. In such situations, everyone is involved in the matters of the business, and they feel that even the smallest thing must be under their control.
OR
They don't have a clear vision for the business, and the directors are not clear of their responsibilities. They may be thinking of profits, but not profits to be gained... they are thinking of internal profits :-)
What I could ask you again is, what was the role described to you when you were hired? May I know how many years of experience you possess? What was your previous experience?
See if you'd have any chances of changing the mindset of the Senior Management, quitting can be considered a second option. Is there a mentor who frequently discusses with the Directors?
Please understand that this experience will only be a learning experience for you. Don't be disappointed. Wait for a while and see if the Directors are willing to even listen to what you have got to say - like instead of saying directly that they are involved in checking stationery stock, or other small things, tell them you will take charge of checking it and take care of administration (these are baby steps to see if they are willing to delegate from the least important tasks).
If nothing seems to be going okay, then please look out for an opportunity with a company that can manage and foster your creative thoughts :-)
From India, Madras
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Sunitha,
Don't get frustrated. I came to know that there is no importance for HR in your company. You will not find any career growth in this type of organization. I think they are not much bothered about employees too. So look for a change in your job. And before leaving (after getting all the required documents in your hand), tell them the reason why you are leaving. And don't leave this job until you get an offer in your hand.
Regards,
Pallavi
From India, Hyderabad
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Don't get frustrated. I came to know that there is no importance for HR in your company. You will not find any career growth in this type of organization. I think they are not much bothered about employees too. So look for a change in your job. And before leaving (after getting all the required documents in your hand), tell them the reason why you are leaving. And don't leave this job until you get an offer in your hand.
Regards,
Pallavi
From India, Hyderabad
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Guess its time to look out another opportunity, instead saying to you directly they are playing this kind of cheap tricks. Time to updated your resume.....
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Hi ratna this is really a horrible situation ,so u can pls look out for some other good company n come out
From India, Hyderabad
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Hi S. Ratna,
I can understand your emotions as I have already faced exactly the same situation in my previous organization. Don't get disheartened. Do search for a nice job, and after that, you can leave this job. Secondly, I would like to know how long you have been working there? Because as an HR person, you must know that stability is a basic criterion for the next job change. Maybe if you leave this organization after a few months of joining, it may be difficult for you in the interview.
So in short, I would like to suggest the following:
1) If you have been there for more than 6 months, then look for a job change.
2) Even if you find the situation too frustrating, then stay there, look for a nice job, and then leave the present job. BUT DO KEEP IN MIND THE AVAILABILITY OF JOBS DUE TO RECESSION.
All the best.
Jeeta
From India, Mumbai
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I can understand your emotions as I have already faced exactly the same situation in my previous organization. Don't get disheartened. Do search for a nice job, and after that, you can leave this job. Secondly, I would like to know how long you have been working there? Because as an HR person, you must know that stability is a basic criterion for the next job change. Maybe if you leave this organization after a few months of joining, it may be difficult for you in the interview.
So in short, I would like to suggest the following:
1) If you have been there for more than 6 months, then look for a job change.
2) Even if you find the situation too frustrating, then stay there, look for a nice job, and then leave the present job. BUT DO KEEP IN MIND THE AVAILABILITY OF JOBS DUE TO RECESSION.
All the best.
Jeeta
From India, Mumbai
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Pankaj is absolutely correct. Basically, such kinds of companies are not worth even existing if they cannot respect the dignity of employees and manage them with honor. This is a gross violation of human rights and constitutes inhumane treatment by a very uncivilized company with uncivilized owners. These people need an HR manager like me who can teach them a tough lesson on how to behave and respect other human beings.
These people think that once they employ someone, they can treat them as slaves without dignity or self-respect. I have stood up to many such employers in my life, filing police complaints and complaints with labor commissioners. I have advised fired employees behind the curtain, fighting for them by providing guidance to those victimized by such "Lala" directors. They share their frustrations with me in person, and I used to enjoy their frustrations because I was the one causing mischief against them.
Rashid
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These people think that once they employ someone, they can treat them as slaves without dignity or self-respect. I have stood up to many such employers in my life, filing police complaints and complaints with labor commissioners. I have advised fired employees behind the curtain, fighting for them by providing guidance to those victimized by such "Lala" directors. They share their frustrations with me in person, and I used to enjoy their frustrations because I was the one causing mischief against them.
Rashid
Rashid
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Hi, I was appalled to know the situation in your company! How come things have come to such a pass? You can give it a last try. Organize the really crucial issues which the employees want to convey to the directors. Put it down in writing and officially present it to the Directors. You can do so in your capacity as HR head. If it does not work, it's time to leave! A good company has established drills and procedures, and the powers and responsibilities of each person are clearly defined. In such companies, HR has specific powers and tremendous responsibilities. Look for these indicators before deciding to join another company.
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Hi Ratna,
I can understand your situation. Tell me one thing, were your responsibilities here briefed to you before hiring?
I know you are disappointed, and it can happen to anyone if you are doing something else and working in an environment like this.
As far as the company is concerned, every company has its way of working. In your case, this is a unique way of working.
Everyone learns a lesson here - the importance of the profile. If the profile is something else and you want to do something else, you really need to think and make a decision about your future.
Before joining any new company, remember these lessons.
Do well.
Regards,
Brijesh
From India, Mumbai
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I can understand your situation. Tell me one thing, were your responsibilities here briefed to you before hiring?
I know you are disappointed, and it can happen to anyone if you are doing something else and working in an environment like this.
As far as the company is concerned, every company has its way of working. In your case, this is a unique way of working.
Everyone learns a lesson here - the importance of the profile. If the profile is something else and you want to do something else, you really need to think and make a decision about your future.
Before joining any new company, remember these lessons.
Do well.
Regards,
Brijesh
From India, Mumbai
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Hi Sunita,
Don't you worry. This kind of environment seems to be there in startup companies where the directors or senior management are the owners/partners. They will start the company with minimum experience and are not aware of expertise in different departments. Actually, they are scared to give the opportunity to their employees, and certainly, they lack growth plans.
Look for a new job. In the meanwhile, try to learn new HR policies and procedures to understand the best HR practices.
All the best :)
From India, Hyderabad
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Don't you worry. This kind of environment seems to be there in startup companies where the directors or senior management are the owners/partners. They will start the company with minimum experience and are not aware of expertise in different departments. Actually, they are scared to give the opportunity to their employees, and certainly, they lack growth plans.
Look for a new job. In the meanwhile, try to learn new HR policies and procedures to understand the best HR practices.
All the best :)
From India, Hyderabad
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Hi Ratna,
I can understand your problem and your frustration too. In my opinion, you have to change the job as early as possible, even if your remuneration is less than your present remuneration, so that you can explore yourself.
Sunil
From India, Bangalore
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I can understand your problem and your frustration too. In my opinion, you have to change the job as early as possible, even if your remuneration is less than your present remuneration, so that you can explore yourself.
Sunil
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Most of the technical people don't know the value of HR. If they are owners or directors, you can't do anything. Each and every one of us may have faced this type of situation. However, you have to work very carefully, and everything you suggest should be from an organizational development or cost control point of view. Then, they will hear you. If you want to discuss the arrangement of drinking water, you have to show them how it contributes to unauthorized absences, attrition, how implementing best HR practices will attract and retain talent, etc. Find a management graduate among them and discuss with him.
Meanwhile, if you are in a very difficult situation, update your resume on job sites and don't discuss it during interviews that you attend.
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Meanwhile, if you are in a very difficult situation, update your resume on job sites and don't discuss it during interviews that you attend.
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Hi Ratna,
I don't find this situation is very strange. Many of us might have been/seen the same scenario when started our career as HR. Self awareness is something which will help you take the informed decision whether to quit the job or continue.
Just look at the scenario from different angle and think-is this something you only making them to behave in such manner with you? Likewise other staff members too. Very important for all the staffs that are having the problem with Directors that- changing the culture first needed to understand the culture, adapting, evaluate and then bring about the change which is vital for the success of the organization. You and other staff members need not to be frustrated and do not undervalue the Directors of the Company. Its all about Management style that they believe in and if you can take up the challenge to bring this systems in proper shape I think this is going to be the best learning place for you from HR prospective.
Best wishes,
Manasvi
From India, Bangalore
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I don't find this situation is very strange. Many of us might have been/seen the same scenario when started our career as HR. Self awareness is something which will help you take the informed decision whether to quit the job or continue.
Just look at the scenario from different angle and think-is this something you only making them to behave in such manner with you? Likewise other staff members too. Very important for all the staffs that are having the problem with Directors that- changing the culture first needed to understand the culture, adapting, evaluate and then bring about the change which is vital for the success of the organization. You and other staff members need not to be frustrated and do not undervalue the Directors of the Company. Its all about Management style that they believe in and if you can take up the challenge to bring this systems in proper shape I think this is going to be the best learning place for you from HR prospective.
Best wishes,
Manasvi
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Dear Sunita,
The problem you face will be faced by others also in small to medium-sized companies. You have to fight for your rights or you have to quit. These people have no empathetic feelings towards the staff because of their profit-oriented mindset. Before quitting as an HR professional, make them aware that it costs a lot in the long term.
Regards,
Karthikeyan.V
From India, Bangalore
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The problem you face will be faced by others also in small to medium-sized companies. You have to fight for your rights or you have to quit. These people have no empathetic feelings towards the staff because of their profit-oriented mindset. Before quitting as an HR professional, make them aware that it costs a lot in the long term.
Regards,
Karthikeyan.V
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Hi,
Don't worry, think positive. This is also a good experience to understand that sometimes, first you have to think about company strength, environment, and reporting relationships before accepting any offer or assignment. Try to assess the situation and seek help from a good consultant to place you in another company.
Thanks,
Vijay Kumar
From India, Delhi
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Don't worry, think positive. This is also a good experience to understand that sometimes, first you have to think about company strength, environment, and reporting relationships before accepting any offer or assignment. Try to assess the situation and seek help from a good consultant to place you in another company.
Thanks,
Vijay Kumar
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Dear All,
Thanks for your time and support.
Firstly, I would like to answer all your questions; it is a family run Organization, (owners = directors=CEO=MD=VP), I am working with this company since Jan 2008, at the time of my joining there was no HR person in the team, only directors are there, and my job responsibilities includes (as mentioned in JD):- Recruiting, Hiring, training, performance management, policy recommendation, salary & benefits, team building, employee relations, personnel and administration functions; etc .
At the time of my joining: - For recruitment process, they never bothered to provide me any project details, and expected for good hiring, I use to gather all the information from team leaders, for hiring process they think no need to discuss any thing from HR, they used to discuss/negotiate everything by their own ,for performance management – when ever I discuss about new joining performance report, they don't have time to discuss any thing as fresher's are not so important and about rest employees they claim to know them better then me , when ever I recommend any policy , they are not convinced ,
For salary and other benefits, they decide, and never bothered to inform me.
But after some dire experience with other employees they realize that one HR person is necessary for the company to perform as an advocate for both employer and the employee's .I was so happy that at least they start value the HR and now I can prove my self and I was looking forward with healthier prospective. I was putting my best efforts for the company and employees, but they never encourage me, from the starting they don't have any policy to celebrate any occasion , after my joining I talk to my directors about it , first they refuse to talk about it , but after a long discussion they had agree to celebrate project deployments , everybody was so happy with the celebrations except for our BOSS , after 4 days of party they instruct me not to conduct any party in the future , and if employees wants to celebrate then they can go outside the workplace and celebrate by their own. I really want to improve the working conditions for the employees, but failing to do so.
Now I am frustrated, I have struggled to improve the place, but again it is out of my control. I am confused and unhappy. I know one thing that they really need me in the organization, but to continue here, I have to act as they want. At the same time I am looking for new job options as well, but due to recession I am getting better options.
I know it's easy to move on but difficult to stay and try for improvement, and since they had realized my worth in the past situation/s, I really want to try one more time, and for that I require guidance from my seniors , from all of you.
Please guide me and correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks & Regards,
S. Ratna
From India, Lucknow
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Thanks for your time and support.
Firstly, I would like to answer all your questions; it is a family run Organization, (owners = directors=CEO=MD=VP), I am working with this company since Jan 2008, at the time of my joining there was no HR person in the team, only directors are there, and my job responsibilities includes (as mentioned in JD):- Recruiting, Hiring, training, performance management, policy recommendation, salary & benefits, team building, employee relations, personnel and administration functions; etc .
At the time of my joining: - For recruitment process, they never bothered to provide me any project details, and expected for good hiring, I use to gather all the information from team leaders, for hiring process they think no need to discuss any thing from HR, they used to discuss/negotiate everything by their own ,for performance management – when ever I discuss about new joining performance report, they don't have time to discuss any thing as fresher's are not so important and about rest employees they claim to know them better then me , when ever I recommend any policy , they are not convinced ,
For salary and other benefits, they decide, and never bothered to inform me.
But after some dire experience with other employees they realize that one HR person is necessary for the company to perform as an advocate for both employer and the employee's .I was so happy that at least they start value the HR and now I can prove my self and I was looking forward with healthier prospective. I was putting my best efforts for the company and employees, but they never encourage me, from the starting they don't have any policy to celebrate any occasion , after my joining I talk to my directors about it , first they refuse to talk about it , but after a long discussion they had agree to celebrate project deployments , everybody was so happy with the celebrations except for our BOSS , after 4 days of party they instruct me not to conduct any party in the future , and if employees wants to celebrate then they can go outside the workplace and celebrate by their own. I really want to improve the working conditions for the employees, but failing to do so.
Now I am frustrated, I have struggled to improve the place, but again it is out of my control. I am confused and unhappy. I know one thing that they really need me in the organization, but to continue here, I have to act as they want. At the same time I am looking for new job options as well, but due to recession I am getting better options.
I know it's easy to move on but difficult to stay and try for improvement, and since they had realized my worth in the past situation/s, I really want to try one more time, and for that I require guidance from my seniors , from all of you.
Please guide me and correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks & Regards,
S. Ratna
From India, Lucknow
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Dear Ratna, Plz keep patience and find out other job when you will get the job just kick this jobs Manish HR SAS
From India, Faridabad
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From India, Faridabad
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Dear S Ratna,
I appreciate your patience to survive in this company till now. Even I think that they have nothing better to do than to interrupt HR activities. This company is not at all employee-centric and will not pay heed even if you try to resolve this situation. So, it's better that you find a new place for yourself as soon as possible because it's not the right place for sure. :(
I'm sure that you will be able to rock somewhere else. Cheers... all the best.
Manisha
From India, New Delhi
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I appreciate your patience to survive in this company till now. Even I think that they have nothing better to do than to interrupt HR activities. This company is not at all employee-centric and will not pay heed even if you try to resolve this situation. So, it's better that you find a new place for yourself as soon as possible because it's not the right place for sure. :(
I'm sure that you will be able to rock somewhere else. Cheers... all the best.
Manisha
From India, New Delhi
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Hi Ms. Sunita,
In small companies, this is the scenario generally because the directors are the owners of the company. They follow a dictatorship method. I would suggest you not lose your enthusiasm and courage. Try for a better job. Please don't think that it's a recession time and there are no jobs in the market. Please remove this notion from your mind because even in this time, many companies are hiring people. I have experienced almost the same things that you have. I was working as an executive there. I finally left that job, started looking for new opportunities, and got a new job as a Manager. All these happened last month only, even when it's still a recession according to everyone.
I would suggest you leave the company with a smile rather than fighting with them. Because you never know, you may need them in the future. I am suggesting all these things because I did the same. Always remember, never behave in such a way that you seem to be at fault. Be good to everyone (no matter if it's a show-off). In the corporate world, you have to show that you are very good and nice. This is what I have learned from my last company, which was my first work experience.
From India, Pune
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In small companies, this is the scenario generally because the directors are the owners of the company. They follow a dictatorship method. I would suggest you not lose your enthusiasm and courage. Try for a better job. Please don't think that it's a recession time and there are no jobs in the market. Please remove this notion from your mind because even in this time, many companies are hiring people. I have experienced almost the same things that you have. I was working as an executive there. I finally left that job, started looking for new opportunities, and got a new job as a Manager. All these happened last month only, even when it's still a recession according to everyone.
I would suggest you leave the company with a smile rather than fighting with them. Because you never know, you may need them in the future. I am suggesting all these things because I did the same. Always remember, never behave in such a way that you seem to be at fault. Be good to everyone (no matter if it's a show-off). In the corporate world, you have to show that you are very good and nice. This is what I have learned from my last company, which was my first work experience.
From India, Pune
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Hi Sunita,
In my opinion and way of working, if you have any sort of expertise and confidence, then don't waste your time there. There is nothing that cannot be improved or changed.
Regards,
Vikas Kumar
09968008206
From India, New Delhi
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In my opinion and way of working, if you have any sort of expertise and confidence, then don't waste your time there. There is nothing that cannot be improved or changed.
Regards,
Vikas Kumar
09968008206
From India, New Delhi
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Hi Suneeta,
What I think is, due to the recession, they are asking you to take all permissions. As you have mentioned that it is a small organization, they need to monitor everything. Are you new to the org or have you been there for a while? Probably, based on your experience, the access is given. I just wanted to know whether your director is satisfied with your work or not.
Regards, Lipi
From India, Madras
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What I think is, due to the recession, they are asking you to take all permissions. As you have mentioned that it is a small organization, they need to monitor everything. Are you new to the org or have you been there for a while? Probably, based on your experience, the access is given. I just wanted to know whether your director is satisfied with your work or not.
Regards, Lipi
From India, Madras
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I think Sunita, you are only left with an option to hop in for a job change only. Somehow, I am having the intuition that your directors are bothering you willingly. Not sure though. We have very senior people available here; they might give you a better suggestion.
Since so far you have tolerated a lot, you can bear with them for some more time until you get a nice job in your hand. I know and understand though it really becomes very difficult to work in an environment where you need to seek permission for everything and can't decide on anything by yourself.
But, you can try to divert your mind by reading some HR policies, manuals, and materials etc.
Wish you luck,
Sapnna
From India, Mumbai
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Since so far you have tolerated a lot, you can bear with them for some more time until you get a nice job in your hand. I know and understand though it really becomes very difficult to work in an environment where you need to seek permission for everything and can't decide on anything by yourself.
But, you can try to divert your mind by reading some HR policies, manuals, and materials etc.
Wish you luck,
Sapnna
From India, Mumbai
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I would like to thank everyone.
Lipi, they are not behaving like this due to recession, because all old employees of this company vouch that they are habitual to behave like this only, and with me, they are not so rude. However, their insensitive behavior with other employees is causing a negative environment in the company. Everyone has problems with them, and for the last year (since I joined this company as an HR), all employees have shown their anger towards me. No one (employees) realizes my position and how much I have tried to resolve the problems; all the time, they used to disparage me. I really want to improve the work environment and the employee-employer relations, but I am feeling so helpless.
To rise above, I plan to prepare a list mentioning all the issues which I feel are necessary to discuss for the betterment of the company and its employees, and of course, for the employers (to save their reputation). I will try to discuss with them one more time, and if they aim to overlook it again, then I will resign.
If anyone has any suggestions, please help me. I would be grateful. Please also let me know if you feel that I am lacking somewhere.
Thanks & Regards,
S. Ratna
From India, Lucknow
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Lipi, they are not behaving like this due to recession, because all old employees of this company vouch that they are habitual to behave like this only, and with me, they are not so rude. However, their insensitive behavior with other employees is causing a negative environment in the company. Everyone has problems with them, and for the last year (since I joined this company as an HR), all employees have shown their anger towards me. No one (employees) realizes my position and how much I have tried to resolve the problems; all the time, they used to disparage me. I really want to improve the work environment and the employee-employer relations, but I am feeling so helpless.
To rise above, I plan to prepare a list mentioning all the issues which I feel are necessary to discuss for the betterment of the company and its employees, and of course, for the employers (to save their reputation). I will try to discuss with them one more time, and if they aim to overlook it again, then I will resign.
If anyone has any suggestions, please help me. I would be grateful. Please also let me know if you feel that I am lacking somewhere.
Thanks & Regards,
S. Ratna
From India, Lucknow
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Dear Sunitha, Get rid of the job as soon as possible before it gets worst. So, carefully choose the organisation for tour next job. All the Best. Regards Krish...!
From India, Hyderabad
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From India, Hyderabad
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Dear Sunita,
It's really a very pathetic situation. I am of the view that you should search for other appropriate opportunities. Self-respect and job satisfaction are both fundamental elements of employment.
Good luck and all the best,
Jayesh
From India, Ahmadabad
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It's really a very pathetic situation. I am of the view that you should search for other appropriate opportunities. Self-respect and job satisfaction are both fundamental elements of employment.
Good luck and all the best,
Jayesh
From India, Ahmadabad
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Dear Rathna,
I feel pity and so sorry for you that unfortunately you have landed in a wrong place. May God save us all from this sort of BAD environ companies.
It is clear that there's nothing that you can do anything there. Forget about taking any initiative as an HR... if u've to send an email attachment requesting them for a printout, anybody can imagine the horrifble situation you are in!!!
With due respect to the high profile job of an HR, I am would strictly advise you not to think any more on this and simply come out of that stupid environment. Ofcourse, quitting these days would be a hard decision to take... but if you really wish to safeguard the self esteem of yourself as well as of HR profession, this is the only option you have.
Best of Luck for you in your next job.
Ibrahim.
From India, Hyderabad
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I feel pity and so sorry for you that unfortunately you have landed in a wrong place. May God save us all from this sort of BAD environ companies.
It is clear that there's nothing that you can do anything there. Forget about taking any initiative as an HR... if u've to send an email attachment requesting them for a printout, anybody can imagine the horrifble situation you are in!!!
With due respect to the high profile job of an HR, I am would strictly advise you not to think any more on this and simply come out of that stupid environment. Ofcourse, quitting these days would be a hard decision to take... but if you really wish to safeguard the self esteem of yourself as well as of HR profession, this is the only option you have.
Best of Luck for you in your next job.
Ibrahim.
From India, Hyderabad
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