Hi, Can any one advise how can i withdraw my PF balance if HR of earlier Company doesnot want to endorse? In that case what is the procedure to withdraw the PF amount ? Please help.
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Please share if you have your EPF numbers. If you are referring to your EPF account associated with a previous employer and have never requested your present employer for the transfer of the same, you just need to fill up the withdrawal form, complete all formalities, have it authorized by your previous employer, submit it directly to your local EPF office, and your HR personnel from the previous employer cannot deny authorizing your EPF withdrawal form.
Secondly, could you please explain the reasons for their denial?
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671Secondly, could you please explain the reasons for their denial?
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Yes, I do have my EPF account numbers. There is a dispute in computing the settlement amount; that's the reason for the disagreement between me and the HR. Is it advisable to transfer the PF account? In which case, is it required to be endorsed by the ex-employer? Kindly clarify.
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Procedure for Withdrawing PF Balance
You have to fill out Form No. 19 and Form No. 10-C, which are available from the company or any stationery shop. After filling out the forms, you need to obtain the signature of your employer along with the necessary documents. Then, you have to submit the forms to the concerned PF office where your Company PF No. is registered.
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You have to fill out Form No. 19 and Form No. 10-C, which are available from the company or any stationery shop. After filling out the forms, you need to obtain the signature of your employer along with the necessary documents. Then, you have to submit the forms to the concerned PF office where your Company PF No. is registered.
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Can You Withdraw Your Provident Fund Without Employer Signature?
Yes! You can withdraw your EPF without your employer's signature.
Do you know how to withdraw your EPF without your employer's signature? Do you think it's possible at all? Is your previous employer not signing your EPF withdrawal documents? Have you left your company long ago and now cannot obtain your past employer's signatures? Or is your EPF withdrawal stuck because your employer is not supporting you or helping you with the withdrawal procedure? Perhaps your relationship with your employer has deteriorated, and now they are not cooperating in the EPF withdrawal procedure and are threatening you. Here are two real-life examples of such situations:
Case 1: A company shut down, and her PF was stuck.
Case 2: The employer was not supporting the employee for EPF withdrawal.
Now the question is, can one withdraw their EPF without the support of their past employer's signatures or support? Yes! There is a solution!
Employer Cannot Control EPF Money
Each month, the employer takes the EPF part out of your salary and, along with their contribution, deposits it into your EPF account with the EPFO organization. Once they deposit it with the EPF office, it's just your money and no one else's. Your employer cannot control it. However, note that your employer's signatures are required on the EPF withdrawal form to certify that you are not employed with them anymore and now you can withdraw the EPF.
3 Steps to Withdraw Your EPF Without Employer Signature
Here are three steps you need to follow to successfully withdraw your EPF without previous employer signatures.
Step 1:
First, download and fill out Form 10C (for EPF Withdrawal) and Form 19 (for EPS withdrawal).
Step 2:
Get it attested by any one of the following:
• Manager of a bank (PSU preferred)
• Any gazetted officer
• Magistrate / Post / Sub Post Master / Notary
Step 3:
Write a letter addressing the regional PF commissioner, stating the reason why you have to get it attested and how you are facing issues with your employer. If you have any proof of unsupportive behavior from your employer, it's better to attach it. (This step is optional and not mandatory.)
Step 4:
If you are unemployed, you will have to make an affidavit that proves you are unemployed. Get it printed on a Rs. 100 stamp paper with a notary or any gazetted officer's signature on it. If you are employed, you can transfer your EPF to your new employer.
Step 5:
Send these forms to your regional EPF office and wait for a few months for some kind of action.
Step 6:
Once your application is processed, the EPF withdrawal request will be honored, and you will be paid. If you still don't see any action or response, then it's time to file an RTI application to the EPF Department to find out the exact status.
Legal Action Against Your Past Employer
Note that Employee Provident Fund money is entirely yours, and no matter what the situation, your past employer should be helping you in withdrawing it. If there is an issue with your employer, they cannot refuse to give signatures and create issues in your EPF withdrawal.
If that's the case, it might be time to teach them a lesson.
If you are 100% sure that you are correct and it's a case of harassment, collect all the documents that prove the harassment and inform your regional Provident Fund officer about this. He will carry out an inquiry, contact the employer, and if he finds them guilty, there can be legal action against the company, which might even lead to imprisonment. It's the employer's duty to keep records as per the law and maintain the terms and conditions. Failing this, the employer can receive a notice under section 7A, which outlines strict actions against the employer. I got this from one of the RTI-related websites.
Normally, the EPFO, which maintained your EPF account, should have settled the claim based on the signature of the Bank Manager if you find it difficult to get the form attested by your previous employer. They should not have sent it back to you, telling you to get the signature of the previous employer. The fact appears to be that the employer is not willing to sign the form for some reason or another. (I presume the establishment is not closed but is still working.) It is the duty of the employer to sign the settlement form. If he fails to do so, the Regional Provident Fund Commissioner (RPFC) concerned can take action against him. You can make a complaint to the RPFC pointing this out and urging him to either settle the claim as it is or to get the claim signed by the employer. In case the employer declines to sign, take appropriate action against him instead of harassing you by not settling the claim. Please send this complaint by registered post and keep a copy. After about a month, if no action is taken, file an application under RTI and ask what action has been taken on your complaint and who is responsible for not taking action. Your claim will automatically be settled.
Conclusion
It's possible to withdraw your EPF money without the help of your past employer. You just need to know the right steps and should have the energy and motivation to follow up on the matter. Let us know what you learned from this article. Do you think this is something useful for you? From this article, did you understand properly how you can withdraw your EPF without an employer's signature?
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RAMAKANT
From India, Pune
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Yes! You can withdraw your EPF without your employer's signature.
Do you know how to withdraw your EPF without your employer's signature? Do you think it's possible at all? Is your previous employer not signing your EPF withdrawal documents? Have you left your company long ago and now cannot obtain your past employer's signatures? Or is your EPF withdrawal stuck because your employer is not supporting you or helping you with the withdrawal procedure? Perhaps your relationship with your employer has deteriorated, and now they are not cooperating in the EPF withdrawal procedure and are threatening you. Here are two real-life examples of such situations:
Case 1: A company shut down, and her PF was stuck.
Case 2: The employer was not supporting the employee for EPF withdrawal.
Now the question is, can one withdraw their EPF without the support of their past employer's signatures or support? Yes! There is a solution!
Employer Cannot Control EPF Money
Each month, the employer takes the EPF part out of your salary and, along with their contribution, deposits it into your EPF account with the EPFO organization. Once they deposit it with the EPF office, it's just your money and no one else's. Your employer cannot control it. However, note that your employer's signatures are required on the EPF withdrawal form to certify that you are not employed with them anymore and now you can withdraw the EPF.
3 Steps to Withdraw Your EPF Without Employer Signature
Here are three steps you need to follow to successfully withdraw your EPF without previous employer signatures.
Step 1:
First, download and fill out Form 10C (for EPF Withdrawal) and Form 19 (for EPS withdrawal).
Step 2:
Get it attested by any one of the following:
• Manager of a bank (PSU preferred)
• Any gazetted officer
• Magistrate / Post / Sub Post Master / Notary
Step 3:
Write a letter addressing the regional PF commissioner, stating the reason why you have to get it attested and how you are facing issues with your employer. If you have any proof of unsupportive behavior from your employer, it's better to attach it. (This step is optional and not mandatory.)
Step 4:
If you are unemployed, you will have to make an affidavit that proves you are unemployed. Get it printed on a Rs. 100 stamp paper with a notary or any gazetted officer's signature on it. If you are employed, you can transfer your EPF to your new employer.
Step 5:
Send these forms to your regional EPF office and wait for a few months for some kind of action.
Step 6:
Once your application is processed, the EPF withdrawal request will be honored, and you will be paid. If you still don't see any action or response, then it's time to file an RTI application to the EPF Department to find out the exact status.
Legal Action Against Your Past Employer
Note that Employee Provident Fund money is entirely yours, and no matter what the situation, your past employer should be helping you in withdrawing it. If there is an issue with your employer, they cannot refuse to give signatures and create issues in your EPF withdrawal.
If that's the case, it might be time to teach them a lesson.
If you are 100% sure that you are correct and it's a case of harassment, collect all the documents that prove the harassment and inform your regional Provident Fund officer about this. He will carry out an inquiry, contact the employer, and if he finds them guilty, there can be legal action against the company, which might even lead to imprisonment. It's the employer's duty to keep records as per the law and maintain the terms and conditions. Failing this, the employer can receive a notice under section 7A, which outlines strict actions against the employer. I got this from one of the RTI-related websites.
Normally, the EPFO, which maintained your EPF account, should have settled the claim based on the signature of the Bank Manager if you find it difficult to get the form attested by your previous employer. They should not have sent it back to you, telling you to get the signature of the previous employer. The fact appears to be that the employer is not willing to sign the form for some reason or another. (I presume the establishment is not closed but is still working.) It is the duty of the employer to sign the settlement form. If he fails to do so, the Regional Provident Fund Commissioner (RPFC) concerned can take action against him. You can make a complaint to the RPFC pointing this out and urging him to either settle the claim as it is or to get the claim signed by the employer. In case the employer declines to sign, take appropriate action against him instead of harassing you by not settling the claim. Please send this complaint by registered post and keep a copy. After about a month, if no action is taken, file an application under RTI and ask what action has been taken on your complaint and who is responsible for not taking action. Your claim will automatically be settled.
Conclusion
It's possible to withdraw your EPF money without the help of your past employer. You just need to know the right steps and should have the energy and motivation to follow up on the matter. Let us know what you learned from this article. Do you think this is something useful for you? From this article, did you understand properly how you can withdraw your EPF without an employer's signature?
Regards,
RAMAKANT
From India, Pune
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If your employer does not want to sign, there is no need for their signature. If you read Form 19 for PF withdrawal in paragraph 7, they mention the following point:
"If the member is unable to send the application through the employer or have it duly attested by them for any reason whatsoever, they may forward the claims duly signed in the presence of any one of the following authorized officials and attested overleaf with their official seal:
- Magistrate
- A Gazetted Officer
- Post-Sub Post Master
- President of the village union
- President of the village panchayat where there is no Union Board
- Chairman-Member of the Municipal District Local Board Of Trustees-Regional Committee Employees PF
- Manager of the bank in which the savings bank account is maintained
- Head of any recognized educational institution
- Any authorized official as may be approved by the Commissioner."
Regards,
Ashish Thakkar
From India, Pune
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"If the member is unable to send the application through the employer or have it duly attested by them for any reason whatsoever, they may forward the claims duly signed in the presence of any one of the following authorized officials and attested overleaf with their official seal:
- Magistrate
- A Gazetted Officer
- Post-Sub Post Master
- President of the village union
- President of the village panchayat where there is no Union Board
- Chairman-Member of the Municipal District Local Board Of Trustees-Regional Committee Employees PF
- Manager of the bank in which the savings bank account is maintained
- Head of any recognized educational institution
- Any authorized official as may be approved by the Commissioner."
Regards,
Ashish Thakkar
From India, Pune
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