I've recently opted for a job in India with an IT service company, and it's at the starting stage. Apparently, I'm the head HR here and am really struggling with Indian Workplace Policy. Right now, my major concern is this sandwich leave policy that we have here. I was talking to the director of my company, and he mentioned sandwich leaves to me. I paused a little and asked him what exactly he meant by sandwich leave as I've heard of it but am not well aware of it. Anyway, I have a scenario here which my boss says is a sandwich leave but according to my understanding, it's not.
Understanding Sandwich Leave Policy
For example, if an employee takes Friday off (Sat/Sun being compulsory off), is that a sandwich leave, and will a 3-day salary be deducted? As far as I understand, if an employee takes Fri & Mon off, with Sat & Sun fixed off, then it's a sandwich leave.
Please, somebody get back to me on this ASAP as I'm in a fix and really need your help.
Many Thanks! Cheers x
From India, New Delhi
Understanding Sandwich Leave Policy
For example, if an employee takes Friday off (Sat/Sun being compulsory off), is that a sandwich leave, and will a 3-day salary be deducted? As far as I understand, if an employee takes Fri & Mon off, with Sat & Sun fixed off, then it's a sandwich leave.
Please, somebody get back to me on this ASAP as I'm in a fix and really need your help.
Many Thanks! Cheers x
From India, New Delhi
Hi Anshika S, In the example cited above, the concept of your boss isn’t right. Like you believe, if the employee takes Friday & Monday off then n then it must be considered as sandwich leave.
From India, Ahmedabad
From India, Ahmedabad
I agree with Hiral Mehta. If an employee has their day off on Sunday and takes leave on both Saturday and Monday, then it will be considered a sandwich. In this scenario, three days' salary will be deducted if the employee has no leave balance.
Regards,
Vikas Sharma
From India, Chandigarh
Regards,
Vikas Sharma
From India, Chandigarh
Dear Anshika, Conceptually you are correct. You just need to convince your Boss and make him understand the basics of leave rules. Rgds, Rakesh Pd Srivastav
From India, Gurgaon
From India, Gurgaon
Why not speak to your Director to get the basis/reason(s) for his understanding of the Sandwich Leave concept? Obviously, he must have seen it being practiced the way he understands it—howsoever wrongly. Or he may have read it somewhere and understood it the way he expresses it now.
Once you get to the root of his understanding, I am sure you will be able to find ways to make him understand the right way.
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Once you get to the root of his understanding, I am sure you will be able to find ways to make him understand the right way.
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
If an employee does not come to the office from Friday to Monday, and Saturday and Sunday are fixed days off, then it is considered a sandwich leave. In this case, you should deduct leave from Friday to Monday. If the employee has a remaining leave balance, you should mark the leave as with pay; otherwise, mark the leave as without pay.
Regards.
From India, Pune
Regards.
From India, Pune
Regarding the concept of "sandwich leave," it is a common practice in India. However, it is also illegal according to the law. No salary deductions should be made for a holiday or a day off (Saturday or Sunday).
Thank you.
From India, New Delhi
Thank you.
From India, New Delhi
I hope you have received sufficient responses for your query. Please respond with your views.
To Recapitulate:
- There is no legal or official term by the name of "sandwich leave." It's just an HR jargon.
- Your concept about it is correct. It implies a period of leave where the prefix and suffix of the leave period are Working Days, and a Closed Holiday/Weekly Off falls in between.
- In general, Closed Holidays/Weekly Off are treated as Paid Holidays.
- Accordingly, if they fall in between the Leave Period applied for by an employee, they should be treated as Paid Holiday/Leave.
- This practice is followed in all Govt./PSU and in all good companies.
- However, some small companies/SMEs or companies with questionable HR practices tend to count these intervening holidays/weekly Off as Leave. Then either the employee's Leave balance is reduced to that extent or treated as Unpaid Leave.
I hope the above information helps.
Warm regards,
From India, Delhi
To Recapitulate:
- There is no legal or official term by the name of "sandwich leave." It's just an HR jargon.
- Your concept about it is correct. It implies a period of leave where the prefix and suffix of the leave period are Working Days, and a Closed Holiday/Weekly Off falls in between.
- In general, Closed Holidays/Weekly Off are treated as Paid Holidays.
- Accordingly, if they fall in between the Leave Period applied for by an employee, they should be treated as Paid Holiday/Leave.
- This practice is followed in all Govt./PSU and in all good companies.
- However, some small companies/SMEs or companies with questionable HR practices tend to count these intervening holidays/weekly Off as Leave. Then either the employee's Leave balance is reduced to that extent or treated as Unpaid Leave.
I hope the above information helps.
Warm regards,
From India, Delhi
Understanding Sandwich Leave Policy
Why, if an employee takes leave on Saturday and Monday, with Sunday being his fixed weekly off, is Sunday considered a sandwich leave? Under which rule and Act do we apply this? According to you, a person worked for 5 days in a week from Monday to Friday and again the next week from Tuesday to Saturday (5 days). Thus, after working for 10 days, he will be given only one weekly off. I eagerly await a reply from our HR team members to debate this and find ways to tackle it. As far as my knowledge goes, a person becomes entitled to a weekly off after performing duties for three working days in a week.
Thanks and Regards,
Arun Kumar Singhal
Manager Administration
From India, Delhi
Why, if an employee takes leave on Saturday and Monday, with Sunday being his fixed weekly off, is Sunday considered a sandwich leave? Under which rule and Act do we apply this? According to you, a person worked for 5 days in a week from Monday to Friday and again the next week from Tuesday to Saturday (5 days). Thus, after working for 10 days, he will be given only one weekly off. I eagerly await a reply from our HR team members to debate this and find ways to tackle it. As far as my knowledge goes, a person becomes entitled to a weekly off after performing duties for three working days in a week.
Thanks and Regards,
Arun Kumar Singhal
Manager Administration
From India, Delhi
HI, I totally agree with Mr Raj kumar. There is no mention of Sandwich leave in any leave rules. It all depends on how much balanced leaves a person has. Thanks NJ Bhat
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
As you understand is right If an employee takes Fri & Mon off being Sat & Sun fixed off then its sandwich leave. Ajay Duragkar
From India, Nagpur
From India, Nagpur
Thank you to everyone who has responded to me. I truly appreciate your time and thank you once again for shedding light on this matter. It was becoming concerning for me as I did not know what to do, and because of this reason, I lost about half of my staff.
Questions About Indian Working Culture
I have many questions regarding Indian working culture. I desperately need someone's help.
Many thanks,
Anshika S
From India, New Delhi
Questions About Indian Working Culture
I have many questions regarding Indian working culture. I desperately need someone's help.
Many thanks,
Anshika S
From India, New Delhi
Dear Anshika, thank you for your acknowledgment. Feel free to post your new queries. Learn and benefit from the resources of CiteHR as you interact and network with HR professionals—that is the very purpose of CiteHR.com.
Warm regards.
From India, Delhi
Warm regards.
From India, Delhi
Understanding Company Leave Policies
It all depends on company leave policies. In our organization, the term "sandwich leave" is invalid, and they don't deduct for the sandwiched weekly offs/holidays even if one is absent or taking leave on both the prefix and suffix days.
Regards,
Pon
From India, Lucknow
It all depends on company leave policies. In our organization, the term "sandwich leave" is invalid, and they don't deduct for the sandwiched weekly offs/holidays even if one is absent or taking leave on both the prefix and suffix days.
Regards,
Pon
From India, Lucknow
I am with Raj Kumar. However, please post any new queries in a new thread to avoid confusion with the current topic of the leave policy.
Also, one thing caught my attention: your mention of "many questions in regards to Indian working culture." Could you please elaborate on this—aren't you from India?
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Also, one thing caught my attention: your mention of "many questions in regards to Indian working culture." Could you please elaborate on this—aren't you from India?
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
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