Though iam not an devotee of Satya Sai Baba, i wish to share his thoughts with all of you. I always respect him for his contribution to our society;
A human body is associated with six stages of transformation: birth, growth, change, evolution, death and destruction.
Death accepts no excuse.
Tears do not move its heart.
Death gives advance notice of his arrival to take you — notice in the form of grey hair, falling teeth, failing vision, folding of the skin etc.
Death may call any moment.
Every moment, everyone is nearing death.
Death is not a deplorable event.
It is the journey’s end.
— From the discourses of Sathya Sai Baba
Death involves certain developments that weaken and extinguish life. It does not affect the Atma; the Atma has no death. It cannot be destroyed. Therefore, one should not fear death. Death is but another stage of life. However long one suffers from illness or however severe the injury, death can happen only when Time signals the right moment. When the yearning for living ends, there can be no more birth.
— Sathya Sai Baba, Vidya Vahini
It is a living death if one is obsessed by pride, ego and anger.
— From the discourses of Sathya Sai Baba
Swami's thoughts on Death
Following are some quotes on the topic of Death, picked from the Divine discourses of Swami.
The baby weeps as soon as it is born because the individual being has no desire to get entangled in the objective world once again. Science describes it as the process of breathing for the first time and clearing of the air passages. But why should it weep? The process can be started by some other way, say, shaking or shivering, is it not?
This life which begins with a wail must end with a smile. When you were a little baby, all around you smiled though you kept on wailing. But when you die round you weep at the loss, you should smile in peace and quiet resignation.
Reduce your wants. Minimize your desires. When death deprives you of resistance, your kith & kin take off the nosestud and in their haste, they may even cut the nose to retrieve it. If you go on heaping desire upon desire, it will be impossible to depart gladly when the call comes.
Do not attach yourself too much to the body or to the things that bring comfort to it. You earn three friends in this life:
The first: the riches you accumulate, which refuse to come with you when you move out of this life.
The second: the kith & kin who accompany your body only up to the burial ground or cremation ghat.
The third: the merit and demerit you have earned, which accompany you to the last.
When once Brahma asked sage Naaradha what was the most amazing thing he noticed on earth, Naaradha replied, 'The most amazing thing I saw was this: The dying are weeping over the dead.' Those who are themselves nearing death every moment are weeping over those who have died, as if their weeping has an effect, either to revive the dead or prevent their own death!
Grief sends you to God. When a child dies, ask yourself the question, 'Is it for my sake that he was born?' He had his own destiny to fulfil, his own history to work out. Gauthama Buddha's father was so overcome with grief when he saw his son with a begging bowl in the street, that he told him thus: 'Everyone of my ancestors was a King. What misfortune is this that a beggar was born in this line?' Buddha replied 'Every one of my ancestors had a beggar's bowl, I know of no king in my line.'
Feel that you are born with the dawn of every day; that you nestle in the lap of death when your eyes close in sleep. For, what happens in deep sleep? The body, the senses, the mind, the intelligence – all is negated and there is no trace of awareness of the world. Know that waking from sleep is but birth and going into sleep is death.
Forgetting the primary goal of life, man wastes his time. Time is precious. Death is dangling its sword over every head. Our life span is fast diminishing, like water leaking through a broken pot or a melting block of ice. Death overtakes man even before he realizes his mission in life.
When we want to go to a cinema, or for an evening walk, we get ready by putting on our shoes. When we want to visit a nearby town, we pack our clothes in a bag. But what preparations do you make for the ultimate journey, the voyage of death?
All are beggars at the gate of God. The hero is he who does not beg or cringe or flatter or fawn. He knows that the Lord knows best.
From India, Madras
A human body is associated with six stages of transformation: birth, growth, change, evolution, death and destruction.
Death accepts no excuse.
Tears do not move its heart.
Death gives advance notice of his arrival to take you — notice in the form of grey hair, falling teeth, failing vision, folding of the skin etc.
Death may call any moment.
Every moment, everyone is nearing death.
Death is not a deplorable event.
It is the journey’s end.
— From the discourses of Sathya Sai Baba
Death involves certain developments that weaken and extinguish life. It does not affect the Atma; the Atma has no death. It cannot be destroyed. Therefore, one should not fear death. Death is but another stage of life. However long one suffers from illness or however severe the injury, death can happen only when Time signals the right moment. When the yearning for living ends, there can be no more birth.
— Sathya Sai Baba, Vidya Vahini
It is a living death if one is obsessed by pride, ego and anger.
— From the discourses of Sathya Sai Baba
Swami's thoughts on Death
Following are some quotes on the topic of Death, picked from the Divine discourses of Swami.
The baby weeps as soon as it is born because the individual being has no desire to get entangled in the objective world once again. Science describes it as the process of breathing for the first time and clearing of the air passages. But why should it weep? The process can be started by some other way, say, shaking or shivering, is it not?
This life which begins with a wail must end with a smile. When you were a little baby, all around you smiled though you kept on wailing. But when you die round you weep at the loss, you should smile in peace and quiet resignation.
Reduce your wants. Minimize your desires. When death deprives you of resistance, your kith & kin take off the nosestud and in their haste, they may even cut the nose to retrieve it. If you go on heaping desire upon desire, it will be impossible to depart gladly when the call comes.
Do not attach yourself too much to the body or to the things that bring comfort to it. You earn three friends in this life:
The first: the riches you accumulate, which refuse to come with you when you move out of this life.
The second: the kith & kin who accompany your body only up to the burial ground or cremation ghat.
The third: the merit and demerit you have earned, which accompany you to the last.
When once Brahma asked sage Naaradha what was the most amazing thing he noticed on earth, Naaradha replied, 'The most amazing thing I saw was this: The dying are weeping over the dead.' Those who are themselves nearing death every moment are weeping over those who have died, as if their weeping has an effect, either to revive the dead or prevent their own death!
Grief sends you to God. When a child dies, ask yourself the question, 'Is it for my sake that he was born?' He had his own destiny to fulfil, his own history to work out. Gauthama Buddha's father was so overcome with grief when he saw his son with a begging bowl in the street, that he told him thus: 'Everyone of my ancestors was a King. What misfortune is this that a beggar was born in this line?' Buddha replied 'Every one of my ancestors had a beggar's bowl, I know of no king in my line.'
Feel that you are born with the dawn of every day; that you nestle in the lap of death when your eyes close in sleep. For, what happens in deep sleep? The body, the senses, the mind, the intelligence – all is negated and there is no trace of awareness of the world. Know that waking from sleep is but birth and going into sleep is death.
Forgetting the primary goal of life, man wastes his time. Time is precious. Death is dangling its sword over every head. Our life span is fast diminishing, like water leaking through a broken pot or a melting block of ice. Death overtakes man even before he realizes his mission in life.
When we want to go to a cinema, or for an evening walk, we get ready by putting on our shoes. When we want to visit a nearby town, we pack our clothes in a bag. But what preparations do you make for the ultimate journey, the voyage of death?
All are beggars at the gate of God. The hero is he who does not beg or cringe or flatter or fawn. He knows that the Lord knows best.
From India, Madras
A good one posted at a very appropriate time. Thanks for sharing your post. I too am not a keen follower of Him, but I have admired Him for His influence and contribution to society. The world will certainly miss Him.
Regards, AVS
From India, Madras
Regards, AVS
From India, Madras
Dear All,
I am sharing my knowledge with you. One of the interesting facts is that most people on Earth are unaware that 1400 years ago, the Quran was revealed on Earth followed by Hadith. All thoughts of Sathya Sai Baba mentioned above are found in the Quran and Hadith, which represent the true life of Prophet Mohammed (PBUH).
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
I am sharing my knowledge with you. One of the interesting facts is that most people on Earth are unaware that 1400 years ago, the Quran was revealed on Earth followed by Hadith. All thoughts of Sathya Sai Baba mentioned above are found in the Quran and Hadith, which represent the true life of Prophet Mohammed (PBUH).
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
All Gods are man-made in this sphere.Man is two-legged creature. So... Believe in your life..Believe in your dreams... Regards, Mohan.
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Sorry, Mr. Mohan. If gods are man-made, then I command man-made gods to obey me. Is it possible? I want many things right away. Can I get them all?
Everyone believes in their dreams and in themselves, but how many have succeeded in realizing their dreams coming true? What makes us realize our dream coming true?
There are many questions which a human can't solve.
With profound regards.
From India, Chennai
Everyone believes in their dreams and in themselves, but how many have succeeded in realizing their dreams coming true? What makes us realize our dream coming true?
There are many questions which a human can't solve.
With profound regards.
From India, Chennai
Dear Mr. SHAIK ABDUL KHADIR,
I can agree with this... There are many questions which a human can't solve, which you said. I am not an atheist. I respect all religions and beliefs, but I have no image of God. Something, somewhere, a power will be/may be there in this sphere; therefore, I pray.
Warm Regards,
Mohan.
From India, Mumbai
I can agree with this... There are many questions which a human can't solve, which you said. I am not an atheist. I respect all religions and beliefs, but I have no image of God. Something, somewhere, a power will be/may be there in this sphere; therefore, I pray.
Warm Regards,
Mohan.
From India, Mumbai
Dear Mr. Mohan,
I was just sharing my knowledge. I only love to speak the BITTER TRUTH and associated FACTS. Here, I support you; not even PROPHET MOHAMMED (PBUH) had an image of the ALMIGHTY, though PROPHET MOHAMMED (PBUH) was invited by the ALMIGHTY to receive a message that had to be implemented on a TOP PRIORITY LEVEL.
Without hope, we can't achieve anything. If there is a POSITIVE HOPE, then you will find the ALMIGHTY everywhere. But if the hope is NEGATIVE, we are almost lost in this world, and no one can reach their DESTINY. Our positive belief will help us achieve our dreams, with the grace of the ALMIGHTY only.
There is something beyond this sphere, far beyond our imagination levels.
With profound regards.
From India, Chennai
I was just sharing my knowledge. I only love to speak the BITTER TRUTH and associated FACTS. Here, I support you; not even PROPHET MOHAMMED (PBUH) had an image of the ALMIGHTY, though PROPHET MOHAMMED (PBUH) was invited by the ALMIGHTY to receive a message that had to be implemented on a TOP PRIORITY LEVEL.
Without hope, we can't achieve anything. If there is a POSITIVE HOPE, then you will find the ALMIGHTY everywhere. But if the hope is NEGATIVE, we are almost lost in this world, and no one can reach their DESTINY. Our positive belief will help us achieve our dreams, with the grace of the ALMIGHTY only.
There is something beyond this sphere, far beyond our imagination levels.
With profound regards.
From India, Chennai
Dear Mr. Karthick,
It is nice to see such a thought-provoking article. Whether Mr. Sai Baba is a god, an incarnation, or a human being, hope is not up for debate. In fact, he was a very good social worker who helped many poor patients receive proper treatment for their ailments, providing medical care through his trust that they could not have imagined. His educational trust is providing valuable service to society. His motivation inspired many individuals to become social workers.
Thank you for sharing, Mr. Karthick.
From India, Kumbakonam
It is nice to see such a thought-provoking article. Whether Mr. Sai Baba is a god, an incarnation, or a human being, hope is not up for debate. In fact, he was a very good social worker who helped many poor patients receive proper treatment for their ailments, providing medical care through his trust that they could not have imagined. His educational trust is providing valuable service to society. His motivation inspired many individuals to become social workers.
Thank you for sharing, Mr. Karthick.
From India, Kumbakonam
Dear Mr. Bhaskar,
I support your views regarding Mr. Sathya Sai Baba, who is truly a good social worker. Now, there is tension prevailing whether such facilities will be made available in the nearest future or not. Perhaps you understood what I meant to convey.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
I support your views regarding Mr. Sathya Sai Baba, who is truly a good social worker. Now, there is tension prevailing whether such facilities will be made available in the nearest future or not. Perhaps you understood what I meant to convey.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
Yeah Mr. Khadir, Let us expect and hope for the best from the trust members too towards contributing to the society which was given to the world by Mr. Sai Baba.
From India, Kumbakonam
From India, Kumbakonam
Hope so, Bhaskar. Let's see what happens. The trust has Rs. 40,000 crores. Many of his associates are waiting to swindle all the money. If half of this reaches the poor and needy, I will be happy.
From India, Madras
From India, Madras
Dear jknhr,
Thank you very much for sharing such nice thoughts by Sri Sathya Sai Baba Ji. No doubt, he is equal to God; in other words, we can say he is a walking god. His services are truly great towards society.
Kind regards,
[Your Name]
From India, Hyderabad
Thank you very much for sharing such nice thoughts by Sri Sathya Sai Baba Ji. No doubt, he is equal to God; in other words, we can say he is a walking god. His services are truly great towards society.
Kind regards,
[Your Name]
From India, Hyderabad
Yeah, being a godman has its own benefits and losses. Some people treat him as a god, are mad about his miracles, magic, and healing power, while critics tell: there is nothing great that he did. Getting 40K crores in donations from people, foreign trusts, politicians, and using 20K crores to build hospitals, colleges, etc., is not a big thing because it is not their money; it is the donation money, public money given by them in the form of donations. If he were a real godman, he should not have accepted donations and traveled on a golden chariot; he should have lived a simple life. But WHATEVER IS TRUTH, ONLY GOD KNOWS. So, I guess such threads should not be encouraged on this site as a clash of opinions will be there: devotees will praise, non-devotees will criticize.
From India, Madras
From India, Madras
Hey Deadsoul, Why don’t we try to receive a part of donation from Mr. Sathya Sai baba Trust, as i am badly in need of 100CR for my EDUCATIONAL PROJECT.. With profound regards
From India, Chennai
From India, Chennai
Just spread a rumour that Sathya Sai Baba came in your dream and has told that you are his successor and reincarnation; you are sure to get about 1 crore. Then you can build universities yourself, learn some magic tricks, tactics to make ash appear out of nowhere, take golden chains out of thin air, etc.
Leave your job, come to India, and then you will earn a lot. There is a lot of blind faith in India; it's sad but real. People won't give to deserving poor people, but will give everything to religious persons for earning punya.
From India, Madras
Leave your job, come to India, and then you will earn a lot. There is a lot of blind faith in India; it's sad but real. People won't give to deserving poor people, but will give everything to religious persons for earning punya.
From India, Madras
Dear Mr. Khadir & Deadsoul,
I hope the thread is inspired by the teachings of Mr. Sai Baba from his discourses. Please keep in mind that our discussions should not disrespect the religious beliefs of those who follow Sai Baba. We are here to learn from positive influences and disregard negativity. It seems that this thread is veering off track from its main focus.
Let's concentrate solely on the uplifting thoughts and valuable contributions to society. We should refrain from discussing issues like the misuse of funds by Sai Baba, his daily activities, his divine nature, his followers, or his behavior. Instead, let's focus on the insightful discourses delivered by Sai Baba that can enrich our knowledge.
Thank you.
From India, Kumbakonam
I hope the thread is inspired by the teachings of Mr. Sai Baba from his discourses. Please keep in mind that our discussions should not disrespect the religious beliefs of those who follow Sai Baba. We are here to learn from positive influences and disregard negativity. It seems that this thread is veering off track from its main focus.
Let's concentrate solely on the uplifting thoughts and valuable contributions to society. We should refrain from discussing issues like the misuse of funds by Sai Baba, his daily activities, his divine nature, his followers, or his behavior. Instead, let's focus on the insightful discourses delivered by Sai Baba that can enrich our knowledge.
Thank you.
From India, Kumbakonam
Prema Sai will be born in Doddamalur (Times of India)
M B Maramkal & K R Rajendra Kumar, TNN | Apr 28, 2011, 05.52am IST
DODDAMALUR (Mandya): Will the reincarnation be reality or not? Whatever happens, the tiny village of Doddamalur, off the Bangalore-Mysore highway, will definitely be in the news in the coming years, with scores of stories doing the rounds here over the reincarnation of Sathya Sai Baba as Prema Sai.
What has lent credence to claims of people of the Vaishnava sect temples of Aprameya (Vishnu) and Ambegalu Krishna (toddler Krishna) is based on a book 'Sri Sathya Sai -- Anandasai' authored by one Swami, an ardent devotee of Sai Baba. In that, he claims that the godman, during his visit to Doddamalur, had told him that Sai Baba had three avatars in Kalyug, and of them, he is the second avatar (reincarnation) of Shirdi Sai Baba. The third will be Prema Sai, and he will be born in this village. He also claims that Baba, during his visit in the '60s, showed a small house where he will be born.
However, confusion prevails among people who are making claims of Baba's reincarnation in the village. According to Ramadas, who runs a Krishna charitable trust, Prema Sai will be born in this village after 2023, as predicted by Sathya Sai Baba. Ramadas said Baba had predicted that his personal assistant, Narayan Kasturi, who died long ago, will reincarnate himself as a woman in a village near Bhadravathi, marry a person from this village, and give birth to Prema Sai. "Today you are my assistant, in the next life you will be my mother," Sai Baba is supposed to have said.
Doddamalur, located on the banks of the river Kanva, will be called Gunaparthy after the reincarnation, said Raghav, an aged villager, disclosing that the soil and water of the village have curative powers. The village will be called Gun (cure) parthy (place) in the years to come.
WHY DID BABA CHOOSE THIS VILLAGE?
Villagers who are well-versed with its history claim that Baba was carried away by the religious history and mythological importance of this village. People say a Kanva sage did tapasya (penance) here, and it was an agrahara (Brahmin settlement) in medieval history. It is said that saint Purandaradasa visited the Aprameya and Krishna temples here and presented a kirtana (discourse) on this village and temples. Baba was enamored by the historic significance of this village.
From India, Mumbai
M B Maramkal & K R Rajendra Kumar, TNN | Apr 28, 2011, 05.52am IST
DODDAMALUR (Mandya): Will the reincarnation be reality or not? Whatever happens, the tiny village of Doddamalur, off the Bangalore-Mysore highway, will definitely be in the news in the coming years, with scores of stories doing the rounds here over the reincarnation of Sathya Sai Baba as Prema Sai.
What has lent credence to claims of people of the Vaishnava sect temples of Aprameya (Vishnu) and Ambegalu Krishna (toddler Krishna) is based on a book 'Sri Sathya Sai -- Anandasai' authored by one Swami, an ardent devotee of Sai Baba. In that, he claims that the godman, during his visit to Doddamalur, had told him that Sai Baba had three avatars in Kalyug, and of them, he is the second avatar (reincarnation) of Shirdi Sai Baba. The third will be Prema Sai, and he will be born in this village. He also claims that Baba, during his visit in the '60s, showed a small house where he will be born.
However, confusion prevails among people who are making claims of Baba's reincarnation in the village. According to Ramadas, who runs a Krishna charitable trust, Prema Sai will be born in this village after 2023, as predicted by Sathya Sai Baba. Ramadas said Baba had predicted that his personal assistant, Narayan Kasturi, who died long ago, will reincarnate himself as a woman in a village near Bhadravathi, marry a person from this village, and give birth to Prema Sai. "Today you are my assistant, in the next life you will be my mother," Sai Baba is supposed to have said.
Doddamalur, located on the banks of the river Kanva, will be called Gunaparthy after the reincarnation, said Raghav, an aged villager, disclosing that the soil and water of the village have curative powers. The village will be called Gun (cure) parthy (place) in the years to come.
WHY DID BABA CHOOSE THIS VILLAGE?
Villagers who are well-versed with its history claim that Baba was carried away by the religious history and mythological importance of this village. People say a Kanva sage did tapasya (penance) here, and it was an agrahara (Brahmin settlement) in medieval history. It is said that saint Purandaradasa visited the Aprameya and Krishna temples here and presented a kirtana (discourse) on this village and temples. Baba was enamored by the historic significance of this village.
From India, Mumbai
Dear Mr. Bhaskar,
Kindly forgive me if we had spoken anything that would have hurt anyone or criticized someone's religious feelings. I do agree with you, "We are here to take the good things from wherever we get and leave the bad things."
Our knowledge is associated with the information we receive. Basically, knowledge is a fine-tuned version of information derived from raw data. It has a lot to do with beliefs, whether they are spiritual or science-oriented.
To my knowledge, a couple of months ago, I posted my thread sharing my thoughts which I haven't compared with anyone in this world. However, this is what I learned, the so-called "SANSKAR," from my parents, my wife, my relatives, etc., and it is very much associated with our culture. Lately, I learned that it is mentioned in the Quran and practically followed and implemented by the Prophet (PBUH).
"If we do good and keep doing good, then automatically we start learning good things only."
Having control over our brain/self is the MOST DIFFICULT TASK in this world.
Regarding funds, I was just casual about it. The best example is TIRUPATI, where up to 500 crores per annum is the donation received. I have no idea to what extent this amount is utilized in building our NATION, where POVERTY IS THE LEADING FACTOR/CONCERN. "Where the money is stored and in what format is the MYSTERY."
Let's enjoy our life, share knowledge, and not spoil our relationships for someone else who is not associated with our lives. "Very difficult to ESTABLISH our IDENTITY but very EASY to LOSE/DESTROY the same in less than a millisecond."
Let's think and be POSITIVE ALL THE TIME...
GOOD LUCK.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
Kindly forgive me if we had spoken anything that would have hurt anyone or criticized someone's religious feelings. I do agree with you, "We are here to take the good things from wherever we get and leave the bad things."
Our knowledge is associated with the information we receive. Basically, knowledge is a fine-tuned version of information derived from raw data. It has a lot to do with beliefs, whether they are spiritual or science-oriented.
To my knowledge, a couple of months ago, I posted my thread sharing my thoughts which I haven't compared with anyone in this world. However, this is what I learned, the so-called "SANSKAR," from my parents, my wife, my relatives, etc., and it is very much associated with our culture. Lately, I learned that it is mentioned in the Quran and practically followed and implemented by the Prophet (PBUH).
"If we do good and keep doing good, then automatically we start learning good things only."
Having control over our brain/self is the MOST DIFFICULT TASK in this world.
Regarding funds, I was just casual about it. The best example is TIRUPATI, where up to 500 crores per annum is the donation received. I have no idea to what extent this amount is utilized in building our NATION, where POVERTY IS THE LEADING FACTOR/CONCERN. "Where the money is stored and in what format is the MYSTERY."
Let's enjoy our life, share knowledge, and not spoil our relationships for someone else who is not associated with our lives. "Very difficult to ESTABLISH our IDENTITY but very EASY to LOSE/DESTROY the same in less than a millisecond."
Let's think and be POSITIVE ALL THE TIME...
GOOD LUCK.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
Dear Mr. Khadir,
I am also not a devotee of Sathya Sai Baba. The comments will not affect me, but they may hurt someone else. That's what I intended to say. As a Brahmin, our Guru is Kanchi Sankaracharya and not our GOD. My intention behind writing this is only to avoid hurting someone's feelings. Since we all belong to an educated and well-cultured community and can understand the meaning of our words, it is not fair to comment on someone who is held in high regard by a certain community. That's the reason I advise against indulging in such comments.
In Hindu Mythology, there is a bird named Hansa Pakshi. If you offer it water mixed with milk, it will drink only the milk and leave the water behind in the cup. It has the power to separate milk from water when they are mixed together. Similarly, we should only take the good things and leave the bad.
All the best, my friend.
From India, Kumbakonam
I am also not a devotee of Sathya Sai Baba. The comments will not affect me, but they may hurt someone else. That's what I intended to say. As a Brahmin, our Guru is Kanchi Sankaracharya and not our GOD. My intention behind writing this is only to avoid hurting someone's feelings. Since we all belong to an educated and well-cultured community and can understand the meaning of our words, it is not fair to comment on someone who is held in high regard by a certain community. That's the reason I advise against indulging in such comments.
In Hindu Mythology, there is a bird named Hansa Pakshi. If you offer it water mixed with milk, it will drink only the milk and leave the water behind in the cup. It has the power to separate milk from water when they are mixed together. Similarly, we should only take the good things and leave the bad.
All the best, my friend.
From India, Kumbakonam
Dear Mr. Bhaskar,
If others are going to receive it in a wrong way, then they are going to hurt themselves. However, in none of my posts have I criticized any spiritual personality, nor have I expressed any negativity.
Your post has enhanced my knowledge base as everything is proportional to our levels of perception. This is the primary reason for the clashes between communities.
Another point that came to my mind is the debate of "BROAD-MINDED NATURE VS INDIVIDUAL PERCEPTION," and I only appreciate facts that are based on truth.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
If others are going to receive it in a wrong way, then they are going to hurt themselves. However, in none of my posts have I criticized any spiritual personality, nor have I expressed any negativity.
Your post has enhanced my knowledge base as everything is proportional to our levels of perception. This is the primary reason for the clashes between communities.
Another point that came to my mind is the debate of "BROAD-MINDED NATURE VS INDIVIDUAL PERCEPTION," and I only appreciate facts that are based on truth.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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