Dear Friends and Seniors,
I have completed my Bachelor of Science in Management from an International University and had really spent a lot during my bachelor's, but I really don't regret it, as the standard and exposure they had provided had really helped me learn and grow.
Thus, I decided to work during my master's and chose to do a distance learning program. Now I have almost a year of experience where I have good knowledge of recruitments and coordinating.
Recently, I have joined a company as an HR coordinator. They have not made my job responsibilities clear to me. They are just keeping me engaged by asking me to create modules for training, which I am enjoying, but they are not giving any input on them or implementing them.
All I am doing is conducting telephonic interviews for different profiles, and I feel that I am not learning anything. I feel like a secretary to the HR; there are only two people in the HR department.
What do I do??? Please suggest. Can I stick with this company? How can I make things better???
Please help:(
From India, Lucknow
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I have completed my Bachelor of Science in Management from an International University and had really spent a lot during my bachelor's, but I really don't regret it, as the standard and exposure they had provided had really helped me learn and grow.
Thus, I decided to work during my master's and chose to do a distance learning program. Now I have almost a year of experience where I have good knowledge of recruitments and coordinating.
Recently, I have joined a company as an HR coordinator. They have not made my job responsibilities clear to me. They are just keeping me engaged by asking me to create modules for training, which I am enjoying, but they are not giving any input on them or implementing them.
All I am doing is conducting telephonic interviews for different profiles, and I feel that I am not learning anything. I feel like a secretary to the HR; there are only two people in the HR department.
What do I do??? Please suggest. Can I stick with this company? How can I make things better???
Please help:(
From India, Lucknow
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Dear Preethi,
If the current profile does not match you and you are not satisfied with your job, what is your role there? Search for a better job and then quit the current company. But make sure the new company or profile will suit your expectations. Later, you should not regret leaving the current employer. All the best.
If possible, please log in to LinkedIn and find my group "Not Kings but Kingmakers" and connect. You will find some new openings in HR there.
From India, Madras
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31If the current profile does not match you and you are not satisfied with your job, what is your role there? Search for a better job and then quit the current company. But make sure the new company or profile will suit your expectations. Later, you should not regret leaving the current employer. All the best.
If possible, please log in to LinkedIn and find my group "Not Kings but Kingmakers" and connect. You will find some new openings in HR there.
From India, Madras
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Hello,
Have you met an education or a career counselor PRIOR to electing to do a bachelor's in Science in Management and that too at admittedly high costs?
I accept that each one of us is a born Manager - efficacy issues apart. Yet education per se (I mean conventional in natural sciences, or science stream, or commerce) is always desirable, and at that age to add to the load also the management subjects is slightly tough. You have two years AFTER graduation to prepare and do some high-end management program. That way, industry respects you as you have learned deeply and have also matured more, at least relatively!
Ultimately, a management qualification is like obtaining a driving license. Many obtain it, but only a few really drive safely and economically. I suppose the Counselor would have told these or similar things if he had the chance!!
But all that is water under the bridge - it has flown out. Let us look at the present scenario in which you find yourself.
1. You still feel the need to do a proper management program for two years, albeit through Distance Learning as you are now in a job.
2. On the job, your employers do not seem to tap your management knowledge and are asking you to do things that a smart and slightly experienced graduate could do!
3. Your employers have NOT given you a proper job profile and have really left you to do only that which you will be instructed to!
As I see it, you are being exploited! As I see it also, there is an urgent need that you STOP working altogether (if you could afford.) and give up this distance learning halfway, if you have to!
Look, there is no substitute for a regular Management qualification like from any of the IIMs, Symbiosis, ISB-Hyderabad, JBIMS, etc. When you do get into any of these institutes, you will at once realize the difference between two worlds.
In my personal opinion, management is NOT a discipline that freshers can or should not be allowed to learn through Distance Learning. This is such a sensitive discipline that there is no alternative to face-to-face interactions and hands-on work on real issues!
I am aware this is a long reply, but it may help others too, and if I sound harsh (even rude, for that matter), just understand that it is not the intention but my CONCERN for youngsters that drives me to adopt virtually an absolutist stance on certain matters!
I hope you may still be able to usher in corrective actions. However, if you can't, then remember, please remember the story of Eklavya from Mahabharata!
I will be happy to answer any further questions you may have and if you care to raise them.
Regards,
Samvedan
November 19, 2010
From India, Pune
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Have you met an education or a career counselor PRIOR to electing to do a bachelor's in Science in Management and that too at admittedly high costs?
I accept that each one of us is a born Manager - efficacy issues apart. Yet education per se (I mean conventional in natural sciences, or science stream, or commerce) is always desirable, and at that age to add to the load also the management subjects is slightly tough. You have two years AFTER graduation to prepare and do some high-end management program. That way, industry respects you as you have learned deeply and have also matured more, at least relatively!
Ultimately, a management qualification is like obtaining a driving license. Many obtain it, but only a few really drive safely and economically. I suppose the Counselor would have told these or similar things if he had the chance!!
But all that is water under the bridge - it has flown out. Let us look at the present scenario in which you find yourself.
1. You still feel the need to do a proper management program for two years, albeit through Distance Learning as you are now in a job.
2. On the job, your employers do not seem to tap your management knowledge and are asking you to do things that a smart and slightly experienced graduate could do!
3. Your employers have NOT given you a proper job profile and have really left you to do only that which you will be instructed to!
As I see it, you are being exploited! As I see it also, there is an urgent need that you STOP working altogether (if you could afford.) and give up this distance learning halfway, if you have to!
Look, there is no substitute for a regular Management qualification like from any of the IIMs, Symbiosis, ISB-Hyderabad, JBIMS, etc. When you do get into any of these institutes, you will at once realize the difference between two worlds.
In my personal opinion, management is NOT a discipline that freshers can or should not be allowed to learn through Distance Learning. This is such a sensitive discipline that there is no alternative to face-to-face interactions and hands-on work on real issues!
I am aware this is a long reply, but it may help others too, and if I sound harsh (even rude, for that matter), just understand that it is not the intention but my CONCERN for youngsters that drives me to adopt virtually an absolutist stance on certain matters!
I hope you may still be able to usher in corrective actions. However, if you can't, then remember, please remember the story of Eklavya from Mahabharata!
I will be happy to answer any further questions you may have and if you care to raise them.
Regards,
Samvedan
November 19, 2010
From India, Pune
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Dear Mr. Samdevan,
Look, there is no substitute for a regular management qualification from institutes such as IIMs, Symbiosis, ISB-Hyderabad, JBIMS, etc. When you enroll in any of these institutions, you will immediately notice the difference between the two worlds.
In my personal opinion, management is not a discipline that freshers can or should not be allowed to learn through distance learning. This is such a sensitive discipline that there is no alternative to face-to-face interactions and hands-on work on real issues!
"I cannot accept these lines; I have a different opinion. I am from a middle-class family and struggled a lot to get an education. I had the opportunity to pursue a diploma (after 10th grade), and at the age of 17, I started my career. As of now, I have completed an MBA and a PG in Rural Development (with the intention of improving the state of affairs in my in-laws' village; I am determined to make a difference). I have worked for major companies in Coimbatore, and now I am in Oman.
It is not only the institute that makes a difference. Don't say that distance learning courses are not valuable. It is about how you approach things. I, too, faced challenges like rejections due to my distance learning background in interviews in India. I am confident in my capabilities and skills, and I believe I can achieve more than an IITian, even though I studied everything through correspondence except for a diploma.
I also request all HR professionals to give fair opportunities to candidates who have studied through distance learning mode.
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From Oman, Muscat
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Look, there is no substitute for a regular management qualification from institutes such as IIMs, Symbiosis, ISB-Hyderabad, JBIMS, etc. When you enroll in any of these institutions, you will immediately notice the difference between the two worlds.
In my personal opinion, management is not a discipline that freshers can or should not be allowed to learn through distance learning. This is such a sensitive discipline that there is no alternative to face-to-face interactions and hands-on work on real issues!
"I cannot accept these lines; I have a different opinion. I am from a middle-class family and struggled a lot to get an education. I had the opportunity to pursue a diploma (after 10th grade), and at the age of 17, I started my career. As of now, I have completed an MBA and a PG in Rural Development (with the intention of improving the state of affairs in my in-laws' village; I am determined to make a difference). I have worked for major companies in Coimbatore, and now I am in Oman.
It is not only the institute that makes a difference. Don't say that distance learning courses are not valuable. It is about how you approach things. I, too, faced challenges like rejections due to my distance learning background in interviews in India. I am confident in my capabilities and skills, and I believe I can achieve more than an IITian, even though I studied everything through correspondence except for a diploma.
I also request all HR professionals to give fair opportunities to candidates who have studied through distance learning mode.
Find more at https://www.citehr.com/297103-need-s...#ixzz15ttznvFl
From Oman, Muscat
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Hello,
I respect your views, opinions, and experience, as well as your achievements.
Basically, we are on the same wavelength.
The pioneers of industrialization in the world never had Harvard, Stanford, or in India, IIMs, etc., yet the industry established and grew. This is proof enough that management education is not critical to success (though it helps!). The younger generations of these pioneers seem to take advantage of management education and make the industry grow.
The strata of society one belongs to or once belonged to does not matter at all. But if you have the means and possibilities, why not go for the best? I do realize that not everyone is so lucky! That is why I pointed to a story from the Mahabharata.
The Pandavas, and more particularly Arjun, being born princes, had the best teachers in the art of warfare and statecraft. Arjun was considered the best archer of the times, but somewhere in the wilds, Eklavya, the son of a tribal leader who did not have the means to offer excellent education to his son. Eklavya, on his own, virtually without help, idolized Dronacharya, the Guru of the Pandavas, and started self-training. Dronacharya did not even know.
By accident, he realized the superiority of Eklavya in archery and the fact that Eklavya idolized him as a Guru and had developed so much that he could overshadow Arjun himself. Dronacharya then tricked him into giving his (Eklavya's) thumb as Gurudakshina, which Eklavya did, and eliminated any probable challenge to Arjun's superiority. However, the moral of the story is, "if you cannot become Arjun, you still can become Eklavya through your own efforts."
Isn't this what I have said in my response?
Regards,
Samvedan
November 22, 2010
From India, Pune
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I respect your views, opinions, and experience, as well as your achievements.
Basically, we are on the same wavelength.
The pioneers of industrialization in the world never had Harvard, Stanford, or in India, IIMs, etc., yet the industry established and grew. This is proof enough that management education is not critical to success (though it helps!). The younger generations of these pioneers seem to take advantage of management education and make the industry grow.
The strata of society one belongs to or once belonged to does not matter at all. But if you have the means and possibilities, why not go for the best? I do realize that not everyone is so lucky! That is why I pointed to a story from the Mahabharata.
The Pandavas, and more particularly Arjun, being born princes, had the best teachers in the art of warfare and statecraft. Arjun was considered the best archer of the times, but somewhere in the wilds, Eklavya, the son of a tribal leader who did not have the means to offer excellent education to his son. Eklavya, on his own, virtually without help, idolized Dronacharya, the Guru of the Pandavas, and started self-training. Dronacharya did not even know.
By accident, he realized the superiority of Eklavya in archery and the fact that Eklavya idolized him as a Guru and had developed so much that he could overshadow Arjun himself. Dronacharya then tricked him into giving his (Eklavya's) thumb as Gurudakshina, which Eklavya did, and eliminated any probable challenge to Arjun's superiority. However, the moral of the story is, "if you cannot become Arjun, you still can become Eklavya through your own efforts."
Isn't this what I have said in my response?
Regards,
Samvedan
November 22, 2010
From India, Pune
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Dear Paul,
Please note that you should take this opportunity in your job as a learning experience at the risk and cost of your employer. As a management professional, you cannot expect to be spoon-fed. In fact, you should make your path and prove your genius in whatever responsibility you are given. Please do not underestimate any job. Whatever comes your way, make the best use of the opportunity.
This is my humble advice to you.
Thanks,
Virchand Vira
From India, Mumbai
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Please note that you should take this opportunity in your job as a learning experience at the risk and cost of your employer. As a management professional, you cannot expect to be spoon-fed. In fact, you should make your path and prove your genius in whatever responsibility you are given. Please do not underestimate any job. Whatever comes your way, make the best use of the opportunity.
This is my humble advice to you.
Thanks,
Virchand Vira
From India, Mumbai
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Thanks a lot for all your suggestions.
Taking every note of the advice and suggestions, I would want to let you all know what I have planned for the coming days. Please let me know also if the steps taken are right. I don't want to look back and regret whatever steps I have taken. I am pretty satisfied with the course content and exposure that I have learned during my bachelor's, and my decision of choosing a distance learning course from Symbiosis was only because I wanted to learn more practically about all the aspects that I had learned and that I will be learning. That's what I am doing, I guess! No organization is perfect. Everyone has some flaws. My point is taking each opportunity as a challenge.
I might not have mentioned one big thing - "the office is under renovation," and thus it's not really in a position that more responsibility could be given for the time because the functioning might not be easy.
What Ms. Priya had discussed earlier is a serious problem that we face in India. Why do we give merit to degrees and colleges more than one's credibility and knowledge? Every organization should be more talent-oriented. Thanks for the support there, Dear Priya and Virchand.
I am planning to work here for at least a year so that I can see what aspects I can contribute to and also learn through my experiences. Moreover, the organization I am working with is in the initial transitional phase, trying to be "corporates." It's really a challenge, and I take this chance with courage so that I can put in effort to bring in change here.
THANK YOU ALL ONCE AGAIN! :)
LET ME KNOW WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK!
From India, Lucknow
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Taking every note of the advice and suggestions, I would want to let you all know what I have planned for the coming days. Please let me know also if the steps taken are right. I don't want to look back and regret whatever steps I have taken. I am pretty satisfied with the course content and exposure that I have learned during my bachelor's, and my decision of choosing a distance learning course from Symbiosis was only because I wanted to learn more practically about all the aspects that I had learned and that I will be learning. That's what I am doing, I guess! No organization is perfect. Everyone has some flaws. My point is taking each opportunity as a challenge.
I might not have mentioned one big thing - "the office is under renovation," and thus it's not really in a position that more responsibility could be given for the time because the functioning might not be easy.
What Ms. Priya had discussed earlier is a serious problem that we face in India. Why do we give merit to degrees and colleges more than one's credibility and knowledge? Every organization should be more talent-oriented. Thanks for the support there, Dear Priya and Virchand.
I am planning to work here for at least a year so that I can see what aspects I can contribute to and also learn through my experiences. Moreover, the organization I am working with is in the initial transitional phase, trying to be "corporates." It's really a challenge, and I take this chance with courage so that I can put in effort to bring in change here.
THANK YOU ALL ONCE AGAIN! :)
LET ME KNOW WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK!
From India, Lucknow
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Thank you very much for all your suggestions.
Taking note of all the advice and suggestions, I would like to inform you about my plans for the coming days. Please let me know if the steps taken are correct. I do not want to look back and regret the steps I have taken.
I am quite satisfied with the course content and exposure I gained during my bachelor's degree. My decision to choose a distance learning course from Symbiosis was solely because I wanted to gain more practical knowledge about the subjects I had learned and will continue to learn. That's what I am doing, I guess!
No organization is perfect; everyone has flaws. My approach is to view each opportunity as a challenge. I may not have mentioned one significant point - the office is currently under renovation, making it difficult to take on more responsibilities at the moment.
The issue that Ms. Priya discussed earlier is a serious problem we face in India. Why do we prioritize degrees and colleges over an individual's credibility and knowledge? Every organization should focus more on talent. Thank you for the support, dear Priya and Virchand.
I plan to work here for at least a year to understand what contributions I can make and to learn from my experiences. Furthermore, the organization I am with is in an initial transitional phase, aiming to become more corporate. It is a challenge, and I am approaching it with courage to make efforts for positive change here.
Thank you all once again! :)
Please share your thoughts with me!
From India, Lucknow
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Taking note of all the advice and suggestions, I would like to inform you about my plans for the coming days. Please let me know if the steps taken are correct. I do not want to look back and regret the steps I have taken.
I am quite satisfied with the course content and exposure I gained during my bachelor's degree. My decision to choose a distance learning course from Symbiosis was solely because I wanted to gain more practical knowledge about the subjects I had learned and will continue to learn. That's what I am doing, I guess!
No organization is perfect; everyone has flaws. My approach is to view each opportunity as a challenge. I may not have mentioned one significant point - the office is currently under renovation, making it difficult to take on more responsibilities at the moment.
The issue that Ms. Priya discussed earlier is a serious problem we face in India. Why do we prioritize degrees and colleges over an individual's credibility and knowledge? Every organization should focus more on talent. Thank you for the support, dear Priya and Virchand.
I plan to work here for at least a year to understand what contributions I can make and to learn from my experiences. Furthermore, the organization I am with is in an initial transitional phase, aiming to become more corporate. It is a challenge, and I am approaching it with courage to make efforts for positive change here.
Thank you all once again! :)
Please share your thoughts with me!
From India, Lucknow
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