Do we include security guard in calculating 20 persons for taking labour license at site or only count labours?

Dear All, I am a Site administrator in French company working with Indian company on Aluminium project.
We are having two sub contractors -one is for civil job and other is for security services.
We are having 18 security guards on site from Security contractor and 10 labours from civil contractor.
My query is that do we include security guard in calculating 20 persons for taking labour license at site or only count labours?
Saurabh Singh

Dear
my Friends are mising licence with registration.
if no of contract workers are more than 20(including all) than employer is requried to have registration of contract with labour dept.
if individual contractor has more than 20 workers than he need to have licence.in this case registration by employer is required and licence for contractor is not required.

Dear Sinsh,
Labour licence is not required iff your civil work is of temporary nature and bill of civil work is not as labour charges .
Thanks And Regards.
Vijay Tapadiya.

Yes Malik ! You are right. Our enlightened members from HR fraternity must understand the difference between license and registeration. A factory does not need license, it is the contractor who needs to have it if he employs 10 /20 or more contract labours (number varies from state to state such as, in the State of Gujarat number for taking license is 10). If Contact Labout (R&A) Act, applies to a factory, it needs to have a Registeration and not license.
Rgds,
Rakesh Pd Srivastav

If you give your work to sub contractors then also you need to take labour license as a principle employer

Dear Sir/s
Please confirm, If a Company have a permanent employee's (more than 100), does he require to carry Labour License.
When Compan have awarded Contract at various state.

My company has permanent employees, we do projects on tender based all over india. Do we need labour license? We do all compliances like epf and esi...please guide me.

Dear Member,
In general, if you are employing 20 or more workers on each project site then you required to have contract labour licence from the Licensing Officer of the area under Contract Labour ( R&A) Act, 1970. If in your case the appropriate Govt. is state Govt. then no. for eligibility criteria may differ from state to state.
R N KHOLA

Dear Nazneen,
Under CL (R&A) Act, 1970 and Central Rules, 1971 it does not matter how much permanent employee are in your company.
The Act is related to personnel deployed at project site (either permanent or through various sub-contractors).
As stated by Mr R.N. Khola, if you deploy 20 or more personnel in a single site than you have to take the labour licence and make other related complianced. However, in Maharashtra the the act applicable for "50" employees.
Ours is also a tender based company working all over India, wherein we deploy huge manpower (through many sub-contractors). We have taken Labour Licence for all the units and complying our best as per the Act.
Hope you will find the clarification as per requirement.

Dear Sir/s,
My company has permanent employees around 50 working at one site. We do projects on tender based at Chennai. Do we need labour license?
We do all compliance like epf ,esi, LWF...please guide me.