PF Dilemma: Should Employers Start Provident Fund from Joining Date or Confirmation Date?

I am looking for information on whether an employer should extend PF facility to an employee from the date of joining or from the date of confirmation?

Regards,
Jaya RV

In case an employee left the company and rejoined within 2 or 3 months, should we allot a new PF number or can we continue with the old one?

Regards,
Vijay

PF facility starts from the day one of the employee's joining. To the second post, as I understand from PF rules, it is at the sole discretion of the employer to continue the same PF number if the absence is short, in which case a default amount or contribution with interest for that period must be paid. In normal cases, when an employee resigns, he has to fill in the PF withdrawal/transfer form, which closes his PF account from that company (but after a period of two months). If he rejoins, a fresh PF account will be required to open. Correct me if I'm wrong, seniors. An abstract from the PF rules is appended.

Quote: "If a subscriber fails to subscribe with effect from the date on which he joined the Fund or is in default in any month or months during the course of a year otherwise than as provided in rule 6, the total amount due to the Fund on account of arrears of subscription shall, with interest thereon at the rate provided in rule 9, forthwith be paid by the subscriber to the Fund or, in default, be ordered by the Account Officer to be recovered by deduction from the emoluments of the subscriber by installments or otherwise as may be directed by the Government." Unquote

If an individual has not withdrawn PF and rejoined even after two years, the same PF code will continue, and no new number will be allotted.

Regards,
JS Malik

If an individual has not withdrawn PF and rejoined even after two years, you can keep the same PF number and deposit the PF as per routine filling.

Best Regards,
Sajid Ansari

I believe that a new number will only be allotted if the name has not been shown in Form 10. Once entered in Form-10, a new number will have to be assigned.

Friends,

As per me, the only possible solutions are:

1. HOD's should plan their work properly with a time frame.
2. Allocate daily tasks and try to achieve the daily allocated tasks. HOD can conduct daily coffee table meetings and discussions. Remember, coffee table meetings always start within the first 30 minutes of the day and only last 15 minutes. This means everybody gets only 15 minutes, giving you some control over the situation.
3. HOD / Manager must come before their subordinates because they are there to set an example for others and get work done.

Please correct me if there are any misjudgments.

Regards

Dear Sajid,

Can you please email me the details of the course you mentioned above?

Regards,
Daleep Sharma

Hi Gangadhar,

I am currently working with a pharmaceutical company as an HR Executive (Generalist) based in Hyderabad. I have 3 years of experience in the field. My expertise lies in recruitment, training and development, payroll, employee relations, induction, and statutory compliances such as PF, ESI, Gratuity, LTA, Bonus, Exgratia, and Superannuation. If there are any openings for an HR Executive anywhere in India, please do let me know.

With Regards,
Gangadhar
09885358784

Dear Jaya,

The day a person becomes your employee and you are paying salary to that person, whether he is temporary, trainee, or on probation, you have to deduct his PF. As per the PF Act, PF is applicable from the first day of joining.

Regards,
Ravi Sauson

Dear Jaya,

The day a person becomes your employee and you are paying a salary to that person, whether they are temporary, a trainee, or on probation, you have to deduct their PF. As per the PF Act, PF is applicable from the first day of joining.

Regards,
Ravi Sauson

Dear Mr. Sajid Ansari,

Please confirm the fee structure and what the joining formalities are.

Best Regards,
Najib Akhtar
09990035809

If an employee has left the company and joined another company, can they continue with the same ESI and PF? Is there a specific format or procedure that needs to be followed to continue? Can anyone help me out with this?