Struggling to Find My PF Amount with Old Employer – Any Advice on What to Do?

Hi everyone!

Hope you all are doing well.

Actually, I have joined a new company and am transferring my PF from the old to the new employer. I would like to know if there is any way through which I can find out my PF amount with the old employer. I tried on the EPFO site ("claim your amount") but it's not working; the page does not display. I tried to contact the old employer, but they seem least interested in listening because they would need to make an effort, and you know how it is - "aaj, kal, aaj bataynege."

It is urgent for me to know the current amount. Can anyone help me out? I look forward to hearing from you seniors.

Thanks with regards,
Deepa

Dear Vandana,

Please clarify the following points:
- How long have you worked with your previous organization?
- Have you received the PF annual return slip for any particular year?
- What was your last Basic + DA (if any)?

Regards,

Dear AWVIK,

Thank you. My name is Deepa, and I am referred to as Vandana on the site. How are you? I hope you are doing well.

My total experience with my previous employer is 1 year and 6 months. I have never received the PF annual return slip. Regarding the details of basic+DA, I can't recall at the moment, and I apologize for that.

Regards,
Deepa

Dear Deepa,

I hope this message finds you well. Please ensure you provide your basic salary along with the DA component, as without this information, I will be unable to provide you with your current balance. Additionally, kindly share your date of joining and the date of leaving the company.

Regards

Dear,

My date of joining (DoJ) was 01 Dec 2006, and the date of leaving was 31st May 2008. At the time of appointment, my gross salary was Rs. 10,000, and PF deduction was Rs. 780. After one year, in January, the salary increased to Rs. 11,000.

I would like to inform you that I took a long leave of 3 months during my job period.

I hope this information will be sufficient for you to calculate the amount.

Thanks with warm regards,
Deepa

Dear Deepa,

The following amount is an approximate one based on the information provided by you: Rs 25,440/- (approx). The above figure is based on considering that you were on leave without pay for those three months.

Regards,

Dear Ms. Vandana,

It is not clear from your question how long you worked with your last company. I assume that you have received your PF account slip for the last financial year. For the current year, you should ask your previous HR Department to provide Form 3A, which contains all your contribution details for the whole year.

To transfer the old PF account to your new PF account with your current company, you need to fill out Form-13 and submit it to your current HR Department. They will then forward it to the current Regional Provident Fund Commissioner, where your new PF account is maintained. If your last company has submitted the Annual Return for the last financial year, the transfer should be completed within 30 days.

Thank you,
Mohd. Arif Khan

PF is centralized; however, there is no proper link available on-site. You can ask your colleagues who are still working at your old company if they can inquire about the PF branch where their company is depositing the PF amount. Alternatively, you can directly ask your company about the PF number. After receiving confirmation from your PF office, you can personally visit the PF office, provide your company name and address, and then obtain your PF number and amount balance.

Please visit www.globalvoverseas.in for more details.

Best Regards,

Sajid Ansari
Delhi

Hi Vandana,

If you want to transfer the amount, fill out Form 13. Otherwise, if you want to withdraw the amount, fill out Form 19 and Form 10.

The choice is yours.

Hi Asha,

There is no provision for online checking of PF amount. Either you need to calculate it on your own, i.e., 12% of the basic salary + DA, and 12% contributed by the employer.

Ratna

Vandana,

You can check your old EPF amount at the regional EPFO office through your personal effort. You can approach the computer section of EPFO and obtain the details of your EPF.

A K B

Dear senior members,

What should one do if a PF contribution is held by a company that is a trust maintaining PF? When approached for closure, they claim they would deduct 30% from the contribution as per statute. Is there any provision to deduct 30% from the contribution, say (approximately 3 years), accumulated by the employee with the company?

They mention that the amount can only be provided upon closure if the person/employee leaves for abroad or shows proof that the employee has been idle for 2 months after leaving them. Is this correct? I kindly request the views/replies of senior members on this matter.

Additionally, when the amount accumulated with company "X" is transferred to company "Y" (the present employer), what formalities are followed? My understanding is that the present company needs to fill out Form 13 to send to the PF office of the previous employer, which would then transfer the amount with an intimation to the member and current employer. Could you please clarify if my understanding is correct?

Thank you.

First, you should have the P.F. code number of your employer and your serial number (Your P.F. No.). If you have these, you can easily find the required information within the department. Otherwise, as suggested by Mr. Khan, if you are filing Form No. 13, that will take care of it (for this, you also need your PF No.).

Hi Deepa,

Amit here,

As per your tenure of service, it is 18 months. Here are two calculations for calculating the EPF:

Based on 6500/- restricted to staff as follows:
- Employee's Share: 780/- x 18 months = 14040/-
- Employer's Share: 780/- x 18 months = 14040/-

With compounding interest @ 8.5% PA, it goes up to 12%:
28048 x 12% = 3369/- = 31449.60 approx.

Less Deduction for 2 months (28048 - 3120/-):
24928 x 12% = 2991/- = 27919/-

If the employer agrees to deduct EPF on Basic + VDA amount @ 12%, it will increase accordingly.

Thanks & Regards,
Amit KB

Dear Friends,
Is it necessary to take a signature and seal of previous company in the form 13 to transfer our PF account to our new organisation.
One more doubt i have while recruiting contract manpower, in this site itself i got few details. It is as follows:
1)Issue a simple appointment letter.
2) Mention the date of joining.
3) Mention specifically when this appointment will come to an end.
4)Mention that she is appointed for particular project.
5)Give a consolidated pay.
6)Cover under PF and ESI. 7)Relieve them on the specified date. Don't extend their period.
Neither PF,ESI or bonus or for that reason any central Act makes any distinction on the nature of empolyment that is permanent, contract, casual etc. So all of them are applicable.
What does consolidated pay mean in this case?
Request you all to help me out.
Regards,
Aishu

Hi Deepa,

There is no any online solution to check your account balance now. But it will be stated very soon they are trying to develop his software program, Do your know one year ago the department had started to doing all type of transactions through interne?, Some think like monthly deposit challan submission through Business Number , monthly contribution details through “R1” Form., Created all account online through “NSSN” Number. There were some problem created in them package on that time and his package had failure. After that they are doing the same manually now. They are also resolving his package problem as soon as possible. Then we will check all types of status online.

Now he is updating all types of withdraw claim status through his site “www.epfindia.com” till now also.

Your Account Balance:-

It May Be Near about: - 24380/-

i.e.:- Your EPF Deducted Amount is -780/- PM

Than Your Basic Amount -6500/-

Your actual Working Month (12+6)-3=15 Month

Your EPF Amount = 780*15=11700/-

Employer Share = 239*15=03585/-

Total =15285/-

Interest Credited = 15285*8.5% per Financial Period

= 1299/- (Approximate)

Your EPS Amount=541*15=8115/-

Total Amount Will Be=15285+1299+8115

=24699/- (Approximate)

Respected Seniors,

If I m any were wrong then please assist me for try to learn some thing in my Bright Future.

With Best Regards

Pankaj

Dy. Admin. Mgr.

+919996602525

Dear Vandana Verma,

I do not understand why you are interested in knowing your amount with your previous employer. If you are working and your present company is covered under the EPF and MP Act of 1952, then you can simply apply on Form-13 for the transfer of EPF from your previous account to your present account. However, for this, you should know the EPF account numbers of your previous and present employers. This is a very easy process as it does not require any signature from your previous employer.

If you are not currently working, you can withdraw your amount by applying on Form-19 & 10 C, but this will require the signature of your previous employer.

I hope this information helps you. If you need further assistance, please contact me at the following email address: admin_pantnagar@interarch.net.

Hi Vandana,

Hope you will fine,

For PF amount withdrawal after 2month job left, you can try for pf withdrawal, so you can follow only one step, and step is, you should contact from your previous company Accounts or HR Department and if department person say no, then you should go labor law department. Because you're previous employer can not stop your PF amount after 2month.


Thanks

Vikas Mishra :idea:
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In which state or city are you located? Only then can I provide you with the necessary details link so we can determine the balance in your PF account.