ESI & PF For Probation Period

Should PF deduction be made on trainees who are been paid stipend
If yes, does Stipend of more than 6500/mnth makes the deduction voluntary

Dear All
Minimum wages revised in haryana wef 01.01.09 notification dated 31.03.09
un a 3970.01
b 4100.01
semi a 4230.01
b 4360
skill 4490.01
regards
mukesh
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Trainees from Institutions not covered under ESI/EPF. This is with reference to Trainees who come from institutions and carry a letter to that effect and where the training is for a limited period as part of their curriculum.

Dear Rekha,
Please go through Esi Act 1950 Regulation 11 & 12 you will find your answer
Any how your answer is here As per ESI act you have start Deduction from the first day and inform to ESI under form 1 and PF form 2 with in 15 days
Better go and read clearly
Regards
Riyaz

The Supreme Court of India has clarified that "Apprentices" are "Trainees" and vice versa.
The Standing Orders of a Company or the Model Standing Orders of the State followed by a company pending certification by the Labour Commissioner should specifically define the term "Apprentice-Trainee". If this aspect is taken care of, no subscription need be recovered from the trainees.
This is the correct legal position.
A probationer is an employee appointed by the Company but placed on probation for a specific period before being confirmed.
S. Krishnamoorthy

Dear Rekha,
Its illegal practice. For Trainee and probationer you have to deduct PF and ESI from the date of joining also submit returns as per act.
Govind

hi rekha,
this is illigle becoz any person who are worked in comany by direct or by contractor or by any type he is liable to covered under pf and esi. as per rule.
thank u
Regards
gautam

Hi Dear Rekha
As per the Govt regulations and statutory acts of ESI & PF you have to deduct and should maintain the employer contribution from the date of joining of the employee.
I request you to refer PF act and ESI act for reference.
Regards
Sudhakar

Dear S. Krishnamoorthy,

Does this means we can use either term Apprentice or Trainee.

We are into service industry and don't hire Apprentice. But plan to hire trainees for 2 to 6 months.

Would ESI/PF would be applicable on them.
Also, in case these trainees are taken on rolls as confirmed employees after 2 to 6 months of training, when would they become eligible for PF/ESI.

DEAR PBS KUMAR,
Can you please confirm that Account consultant/ Legal Consultant will be covered under PF/ESI.
I agree with your view of Apprentice Trainee & Apprentice Act
rrtpan